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7:00 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis Just don't act like Towelie
 
Luckily I did not edit the really high voted stuff...
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ There's a button over there ------------------------------------------------------------------------v
 
It was fun having 10K as long as it lasted : )
 
@Tunaki This as duplicate of this?
@πάνταῥεῖ I was being sarcastic
 
@PetterFriberg They finally nerfed Docs rep?
 
user4639281
7:01 PM
I lost precisely 0 imaginary internet points from the rep recalc
 
@Machavity Yeah seems so
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis I got that of course. I'm not that stoned right now ;)
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis is perfect exact match to me
out of votes?
 
no, just looking for opinion
 
the spaces...
meh
 
user4639281
7:03 PM
So glad I didn't contribute to Docs...
 
Lost 100 rep. Finally got rid of that nasty docs rep!
 
@TinyGiant I failed miserably when trying so :/
 
user4639281
I actually did contribute, but no one appreciated my contributions
 
I'm below 20k again, now I can't delete stuff anymore...
 
wow 4k for me @PetterFriberg
i lost 1.5k :/
 
7:05 PM
@ColdFire wow
 
@TinyGiant It's all stubborn somehow. At least for the c++ realm. We already have en.cppreference.com
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ JavaScript has MDN too
 
user4639281
There is like 0 point in documenting JS anywhere other than on MDN
 
@FirstStep :(
 
: ( the worst is that I can't delete vote anymore...
 
7:06 PM
:(
 
i cant edit wiki
 
user4639281
@PetterFriberg not to mention a lack of NATO
 
@TinyGiant don't tell that to the ES spec writers...
 
@PetterFriberg booooooooo
 
user4639281
@TylerH Well... except for the ES spec
 
7:07 PM
I lost zero
 
@PetterFriberg yeah but only 500 rep
 
user4639281
But that's just.... who wants to load that whole damn page just to read one little section
 
Yeah it was useful to help BR with the bot, but I will get again, no need to cry
 
that's one canonical
 
@TinyGiant I still have my doubts regarding the whole documentation thing.
 
7:07 PM
@FirstStep you never gain anything
 
:(
So I don't lose in any future day and get cancer :P
 
@TinyGiant I do like the notion of narrowing Docs to only cover libraries or APIs that run on top of languages
 
well finally rep recalc has happen i am happy \o/
 
\o/
 
user4639281
I really just don't understand the point of what it is supposed to be at this point
 
7:08 PM
my man that's the spirit
 
now i know how much i need for 10k
 
remember I told you go below me :P @ColdFire
 
@FirstStep that is becoz jarrod gave you 500 rep
:/
 
user4639281
I could understand if it was something like a FAQ, where you could move all of the canonicals to a nicer interface specifically for canonical solutions
 
7:09 PM
@Tunaki np seems related..
 
pffff I deserved that, eventually @ColdFire
 
The SE CEO's rule over us. Forget about democracy.
 
@FirstStep well that is upto jarrod to decide
 
@PetterFriberg Hmm no, looking at all their comments, this needs a mod flag
 
oooh they have more then go for it...
 
7:11 PM
@Tunaki Thye posted in comment to question also
 
@Tunaki yeah really spamming in comments :D
 
@FirstStep i have many good answers with no points so i dont know( note i am not talking about my answers)
 
user4639281
I really liked the idea of docs, and teams, and the developer story, etc, etc... but they just aren't necessary, and they don't really add anything new.
 
@Tuna another one that spammed on wrong post :D
 
7:13 PM
I miss Joel Spolsky and Jeff Atwood.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Joel Spolsky is still here
 
@PetterFriberg :D
flagged
 
@ColdFire I think you will make it up man. Don't worry
I will help if you want. With questions
 
@TylerH Doesn't put in anything relevant recently :/
 
@FirstStep haha man i am not worried as i said i am happy docs recalc happen :)
 
7:15 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ He does every podcast
but I imagine he's somewhat busy running the company
 
@FirstStep @android tag is pretty bad as it is hehe
 
@TylerH I probably should have said I miss their fights.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I wish Jeff had won
personally
I prefer the higher bar to quality over the higher profit margin
 
@TylerH Me too
 
Do we usually k self-vandalism?
 
7:19 PM
@TylerH which fight?
a war?
 
@TylerH Profit is overestimated in the long term. Things like world climate are important actually.
 
@ColdFire the fight between SO being a place for experts/professionals and high quality, or being a place for everyone and their "me too" coding problems
 
> Self-vandalism is where a user vandalises their own post by replacing all its useful content with something like "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", or "deleted deleted deleted". For self-vandalism, use tp-. At a system level, we'd want to catch and block people doing this, but it's not worth blacklisting the user because it's usually a one-time incident. Most users, when warned, don't do it again.
 
@gunr2171 I self-vandalize by rewriting all my C# code in PHP. So far it's flown under the radar.
 
@TylerH i see but i read he quitted becoz of some family or personal reason
 
7:21 PM
oh burn
 
@ColdFire "a war?" It may become one in the near future.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ so yeah, what Alexander said: use tp- for self-vandalism
 
@gunr2171 I'm in extrapolate mode right now
 
ok...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ could you switch to interpolate mode, please? I have some math I've been putting off...
 
7:27 PM
@TylerH I'm actually bad at math. I always need to consult my (desktop )calculator
 
user4639281
It would be nice if Stack Overflow put more effort into the se quality project and less effort into reinventing the wheel
2
 
@TinyGiant In other words: Documentation is shit, and unnecessarily :P...
 
SE quality project, what is that? Do they actually care about "quality"?
 
user4639281
Yes, yes you could use those words. Not to belittle what they've done, it just makes no sense, and is completely unnecessary.
 
I... like that tag
 
@JanDvorak We all do. Bail out amy VLQ stuff as harsh as you can.
 
Anyone know how to nest a code block into a quote block quickly?
 
@NathanOliver Do you mean, indentation?
 
user4639281
@NathanOliver unclear what you are asking?
 
7:33 PM
@NathanOliver Indent?
 
user4639281
We need clear problem and interrogatory statements, example input, expected output, actual output, and what you have tried so far.
 
edited
 
@NathanOliver For SO? I use Notepad++. Indents and outdents in bulk
 
user4639281
ohhhhh
 
The whole code block here needs to be quoted
 
user4639281
7:36 PM
like that?
 
Yes
How did you do that?
 
user4639281
In that case I used regex
 
Ah. Me no regex :(
 
user4639281
If they use spaces instead of tabs, you can highlight the whole code block and hit the quote button in the menu bar
 
Oh. I think I need to get a different editor script. My script does tabs so that is why I have always had that problem.
 
7:40 PM
@NathanOliver OP rolled back
 
It seems impossible to retract spam/rude flags. Is it?
 
@PetterFriberg rolled back and commented. It should be auto flagged now.
 
What is the most reputation you saw a user looses because of docs? I saw one who lost like over 5k reputation.
 
@NathanOliver lol
magic lost 4k
 
@JanDvorak not sure, never tried it
 
7:42 PM
This is the user script I use right now and it inserts tabs when I press tab instead of spaces.
 
@JanDvorak No it should work (as long as it is not on a comment)
 
No-repro. It says "this is the high-priority flag you've raised" without a means to check it or a button to retract
feel free to test here: stackoverflow.com/a/39498275
 
Could you please provide me your feedback on this before I post is on SO-Meta: http://i.stack.imgur.com/bDAEG.png

Should I add anything? remove anything?
@rene @NathanOliver @PetterFriberg @πάνταῥεῖ
 
@NathanOliver > Code
5 spaces --------------^
 
Looks like the rep recalc happened :o
 
7:45 PM
Is that a screenshot of text?
 
@JanDvorak Me? yes
 
Ew.
 
:( what. I think it is an awesome idea
 
@FirstStep I don't think that will fly
 
@FirstStep You want a comment generated on the first close vote, like what happens for duplicates?
 
7:46 PM
@Tunaki Just at the very start or every line?
 
@FirstStep I think it is clear, it will have my down vote when posted
 
@Louis yup
 
@NathanOliver at the start.
 
@FirstStep The dup comment has sense since user can check and accept, the other they will get the link if closed
 
@rene well that is a legit feedback lol
 
7:47 PM
@FirstStep what's the need for those comments?
 
and a dupe comment even if not closed has sense as related
 
The dupe is there to guide the user to read the other q to help close the q. With a dupe comment, it's needed for giving the user guidance to another post to hopefully solve their problem whilst helping close the q
 
Well, I was thinking that the OP will know more through the comment (especially when the Q does not get closed right away)

Then, will know which flags is getting marked the most
 
@FirstStep One reason we wait until it is a done deal before a notice is posted is that when 5 people tell the OP there's a problem, there's less chance for the OP getting into a fight. Otherwise, the chances are whoever cast the fist vote is going to get a "well, that's just your opinion, dude!" response.
 
@Tunaki Oh yeah. Thanks for that. That will help.
 
7:48 PM
@NathanOliver Thanks, that'll be 4 waffles and your first born.
 
@AndrewL. well the main reason is that OP will get the feedback even if the Q did not get closed.
 
I personally just think it's a bad idea
 
Thoughts on the answer I've linked?
 
@Louis I think you are right.. My proposal will get the OP to reply and open a discusion
 
If it doesn't get closed then it may mean that others in the community didn't think it was close worthy, which makes the comments irrelevant
 
7:50 PM
Does <kbd> work in chat?
 
<kbd>No</kbd>
 
@Tunaki I can swing the first born but you go too far in the request for waffles ;)
 
@NathanOliver :)
 
@FirstStep Also, I'm pretty sure someone has made a feature request for that before.
 
7:51 PM
@NathanOliver You would be an excellent egyptian pharaoh.
 
until Egypt demands waffles
oh god, Civ V flashbacks
 
rofl
 
@Louis I was waiting for that "possible dup" case to happen so I can attach a picture example with my Q. I think I won't wait any more lol
 
"City-State demands spices" "Well I didn't know I just had to demand something to get it, now did I, Venice?"
 
7:52 PM
I will drop that proposal. Maybe it IS indeed not a good idea
:)
Thanks everyone o/
 
Rofl waffl
 
@FirstStep Your welcome : )
 
Egypt didn't demand the first-born. Not even God did. He just came after a short notice and killed them.
 
Event in 4 minutes!!!
 
user4639281
7:56 PM
Minutes 4 in event!!!
 
I'll be watching, now that I've been notified anyways.
 
@JanDvorak phrasing
 
4 events in a minute!!!
 
My nice is asking despearately: facebook.com/johanna.binder.351?fref=nf&pnref=story Anyone helpful?
 
@JanDvorak test on the SD report, it worked to retract flag..
i.stack.imgur.com/xEOHg.png ... <-- retracted rude flag
 
7:57 PM
Minoot events in 4!
 
One box :(
 
Maybe you can only retract before a set time, or before you refresh the page?
 
@PetterFriberg why?
 
@Tunaki To test : )
 
lol
don't star this
do star this
 
7:59 PM
as no one stars the do
 
18 mins ago, by Jan Dvorak
It seems impossible to retract spam/rude flags. Is it?
 
@Tunaki It's called "Internet logic"
 
Yup :)
 
user4639281
Wth, starry night or something?
 
Basically !!logic !== logic is TRUE.
 
8:00 PM
@Closey start event
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
8916 need review
1107 reviews today
3469134 reviews all-time
 
okay srs bsns time
 
The tags to work on are: , , .
 
oooh chat
@Closey starting
 
Lol
 
8:00 PM
Sorry, old habits die hard
 
@Closey next 6 tags
 
@rene The next 6 tags are: 45, 39, 37, 37, 36, 35
 
starry, starry night (Vincent)
 
Tuna can use his fancy script
 
Wait, stars count as votes!???1
 
8:01 PM
Dont start this ‮‮‮‮‮‮
 
I've used them all :(
 
My post messup the star board...
 
The starts go back up! :p
 
RIP all stars
 
Y U unstar "don't star this"?
 
8:01 PM
★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★
 
@JanDvorak wasn't me :(
 
 
ok, stars are off
 
@TylerH I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
‮‮‮‮‮‮
 
8:02 PM
Y U unstar everything?
 
Y PPL LIKEZ TO STAR?
4
 
stackoverflow.com/review/close/13641105 this guy winked at me, now I feel all hot and bothered
 
user4639281
@JanDvorak Y U STAR EVERTIN?
 
I don't
 
user4639281
Good answer
 
8:03 PM
I mean, I dint
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
user4639281
I r haz no cloz votz
 
rene passed a audit!
 
how was chat the top one but only has 3 questions
 
8:04 PM
☼ (technically a star)
 
@Tunaki ofcourse we like to star you can see the prove on right of your screen :P
 
2 days until full moon, that means we get crazy and star everything
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Nope, that's a white sun with rays
 
@AlexanderO'Mara No that's an Emoji.
 
@JanDvorak but the sun is a star...
 
8:05 PM
@Tunaki No it's Becky
 
The Sun is a star, but White Sun with Rays isn't
 
Uhh is this answer vlq because it links to a dupe and says its answered and provides the code from the dupe?
 
@Ferrybig TRUE
 
@Tunaki Is it? I thought it was unicode? Or is there not a difference?
 
@AndrewL. Pass a nice comment that it's better that they flag as duplicate
 
8:09 PM
Ok
 
user4639281
I love it when I send a parts related request to the parts department, get a reply 20 minutes later asking if they have time to ask someone else, then I go and find the information I was requesting in 30 seconds or less. Using a search bar is a skill I guess.
 
> the parts department
"Hello sir I'd like a 5 pound part please" "no you wouldnt" "yes I would!" "no you really wouldn't"
 
> I hate when my manager asks for a feature, then I show him how nice my code is and how fast the algo is and he be like "well it is fine we won't need that"
 
@FirstStep yeah right that never happens
 
@TinyGiant shouldn't you have started with those 30 seconds before you involve the parts department?
 
8:18 PM
I feel he always does that on purpose :(
Because he says that but he wants to have the code right away
 
Ugh. Now I can't even star messages that are actually worthy
 
@AndrewL. what have we learned today :-)
Don't anger the star gods
 
;)
 
Oh boy, here they come. — Will 9 mins ago
^^ Nailed it.
 
@TylerH You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 22 minutes and 34 seconds, averaging to a review every 33 seconds.
rene passed a audit!
@rene You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 22 minutes and 55 seconds, averaging to a review every 34 seconds.
 
8:27 PM
^ Why I did not get monitored
 
You have to opt-in ...
 
that was permission
 
Oh this is another thing
 
some users want to be in the reviewer group but don't want to be stalked
they switch it on and off
 
8:29 PM
I think I want that if I can toggle it. "Can I have like that?" -> You got it like that... the silly song
 
FirstStep wants the thing
 
waffles
 
you can do that yourself
opt-in is the command I believe
 
@Closey opt-in
 
. @Closey opt-in
 
8:32 PM
@FirstStep You are already opted-in to tracking, and have been in this state for 1 day, 1 hour, 45 minutes, and 25 seconds. You may switch your preference by running opt out.
 
Oh
then we have a bug ... @sam
 
Sam
hmm?
 
@FirstStep You are already opted-in to tracking, and have been in this state for 1 day, 1 hour, 46 minutes, and 32 seconds. You may switch your preference by running opt out.
 
"Back to the corner"
Well I started reviewing and left, I did not see Closey telling me that I started and how many did I do @Sam @rene
 
I leave you now with the professional care of @sam .... runs
 
Sam
8:34 PM
@FirstStep Can you run my stats details please?
 
@Closey my stats details
 
@FirstStep You've reviewed 37 posts today. The time between your first and last review today was 7 hours, 36 minutes, and 46 seconds, averaging to a review every 12 minutes and 20 seconds.
 | Item Id  | Action    | Audit | Completed At            |
 |--------------------------------------------------------|
 | 13670304 | Close     |       | 2016-09-14 12:42:08 UTC |
 | 13669037 | Close     |       | 2016-09-14 12:42:56 UTC |
 | 13668359 | Close     |       | 2016-09-14 12:43:24 UTC |
 | 13672638 | LeaveOpen |       | 2016-09-14 12:43:59 UTC |
 | 13671897 | Close     |       | 2016-09-14 12:45:06 UTC |
 | 13672029 | Close     |       | 2016-09-14 12:44:52 UTC |
 | 13671761 | Close     |       | 2016-09-14 12:45:34 UTC |
 
Sam
Well that was unexpected
8 hours ago, by Closey
@FirstStep I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Closey will only say this once per (UTC) day.
 
He has a DRY sense of humor
 
Well I did not sign on that. Show me the agreement. :P
 
Sam
8:36 PM
@TylerH slow clap
 
Not each time I visit and leave then. Once a day
 
super fast clap
 
Sam
@FirstStep Yeah, it's kinda difficult to tell when exactly a user has "taken a break" or just stopped reviewing for the day, so we decided to just post that message on your first review of the day.
 
CLAP CLAP CLAP
ok gn guys
 
Sam
Sleep well o/
 
8:39 PM
Makes sense. I actually the user forgot that I went to review 8 hours ago.
@Sam o/
 
user4639281
@rene I figured that the parts department should be able to do parts related stuff. people weren't generally incompetent
 
@ColdFire good night
 
Sam
@FirstStep xD
 
Can the parts department do integration by parts?
 
@ColdFire think of a better tomorrow. And new rep score after the lose :P
 
user4639281
8:40 PM
@JanDvorak wut?
 
Can the parts department act like one part? For gods sake
 
partly
 
user4639281
not entirely
 
Sam
@rene Crisis solved. That'll be $89.99/min for my "professional care" :p
 
8:41 PM
Heading to class. o/
Good bye
 
user4639281
@JanDvorak you lost me at calculus
 
@Sam plus S&H
 
Sam
Cya \o
@TylerH And tax
 
Calculus isn't hard to understand, just hard.
 
user4639281
A parts person gets paid twice as much as I do, to do less than half the amount of work.
 
user4639281
8:43 PM
And more than half of the parts sold at the dealership are sold by service, i.e. me
 
user4639281
I should go be a parts person
 
@TinyGiant you should
 
Hi. I had a question closed as off topic. I updated to meet the standards for the site. Can it be unlocked now?
 
@Selena link us?
 
8:51 PM
it looks like it's got two re-open votes already, unfortunately I'm not a Java programmer so I don't feel confident in casting one myself based on adding an MCVE
cc @Tunaki thoughts?
 
Oh. Okay.
 
@Selena Hello! I'm re-reading your question.
 
Hi. Thanks.
 
Tunaki is one resident member who claims to know Java :-)
But nothing's been proven yet :-P
 
LOL. Judging from Tunaki's rep score, I will be deeply flattered to have my SO faux pas cleared by them.
 
user4639281
8:58 PM
@Selena Looks like close votes were requested by @Sotirios . Maybe they would like to take another look.
 
@TinyGiant no problem. If they agree or not, that's fine. I thought it could be helpful for people who run into this problem because of a reflexively generic class.
 
@Selena I'm not sure I understand the issue, because you have a AbstractLoadable that does not appear in your example (the part before the edit, I assume). But public class ConcreteLoadable extends AbstractLoadable is using a raw type
 

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