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9:00 AM
@RiggsFolly Oh, I have that running ... hold on
 
OK, but I have never seen this happen before until I accespted the latest tool update
Now it seems to happen to me 50% of the times I use the close button
 
Are you on version 1.5.16?
 
YES
 
@TimCastelijns can you do the cv pls for me
for that question
 
Remember this is just a feeling... I have no proof
 
9:03 AM
481k rep user is fighting very hard not to close that as dupe...
Because the question is about why # in ID attributes doesn't work for hrefs, compared to css...
Same reason as why it doesn't work for CSS...
 
@rene If relevant FF 48.0.2 Greasemonkey 3.9
 
41 seconds. Heck yea
 
@RiggsFolly In the latest history I don't see changes that I would suspect to be causing this. Can you run firebug for awhile and keep the log to see if something broke there?
 
Sure
 
Just 1 more CV as dupe here please :-)
 
9:07 AM
@RiggsFolly ah, I'll try firefox as well, I'm on chrome with tampermonkey
 
(I bet Quentin will re-open it with his Mjölnir)
 
@Cerb how about this dupe stackoverflow.com/questions/7110392/…;?
 
@rene If its relevant, a page refresh makes close work again
 
@Tunaki That one doesn't say not to use # in the id attribute.
 
do we have to write cv pls request really for a question if you already know that has to be closed?
 
9:09 AM
@Cerbrus it kinda does since <a href="#item1"> and <div id="item1">
 
@RiggsFolly you don't get an error popup, right? Just clicking close doesn't load the dialog.
 
@Tunaki The # is in the href.
<div id="#item1"> wouldn't work
 
@ColdFire what do you mean?
 
yeah... so it's the same answer but a different question
 
@rene Also have Magicâ„¢Editor 1.5.2.70 and Unclosed Request Review Script 1.0.1.2 and UnclosedRequestReview 1
 
9:10 AM
@rene i mean for the question i asked above that has to be closed and agreed but still no one voted to close it
 
@rene No errors just nothing happens
 
oh wait
 
@rene and not all the time, just roughly 50%
 
Post Reopened by Quentin css
Damnit.
 
@TimCastelijns its not becoz of the bounty
 
9:17 AM
I'm going to write a feature request to restrict Mjölnir to only work for close-votes, and to re-open questions that have been Mjölnir'd. It makes no sense for a single user to be able to override a majority like that.
 
@ColdFire well, there is no requirement for us to vote on anything here. If you're not using cv-pls I guess users just regard it as an support request on your behalf if closing warranted or not. If the outcome is yes, a cv-pls may follow if you feel the post might get lost in a lonely tag or in the review queue and needs our attention instead.
 
@Tunaki Most of those links are valid targets.
Personally, I prefer the one it was closed as.
 
I'm thinking that last one can be edited into shape - it looks general enough to serve as dupe target for all those little issues
 
@rene i see i have to write the cv pls manually i guess since i dont have the script in office browser
 
9:30 AM
@ColdFire yeah, that is how we started as well, typing it manually ...
 
I was editing a post and it got edited in the meanwhile and it then threw me out of the editing mode, so my edit just got lost. I think this has something to do with that "acting like a refresh button"(meta.stackoverflow.com/q/333225/3933332), because it started to blink.
 
@Rizier123 I just had the same
Twice.
Was editing that (now removed :) )cv-pls post ^ and 2 very lousy edits came before I finished, throwing me out
 
@Tunaki Yup. I was editing this one: stackoverflow.com/q/39267666/3933332 which needs quite a bit of editing and it threw me out when I was almost done.
 
@Tunaki @Rizier123 thanks
And cast a close vote @Tunaki on my question
Please ping me if you have done so
sorry for the lost cv...
 
casting vote...
 
9:36 AM
@ColdFire why then?
 
Aloha
 
@Tunaki It's a trap! He will flag you for randomly closing a question :P
 
vote cast @rene
 
OK, thanks
 
@Rizier123 That's one of the reasons why I usually make non-trivial edits in a text editor, and then copy/paste it back (if the post is unchanged).
 
9:38 AM
tell me when you want me to retract it
maybe the CV queue will close it after all :p
 
@Tunaki you may retract but it still is your vote ;)
 
retracted now
@PetterFriberg Hiya
 
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Q: Remove Mjölnir privilege when voting to re-open a question that was close-voted by multiple users

CerbrusBasically: don't allow a single user to re-open a question that has been closed by multiple users. I've seen it a couple of times (recent example): A question gets closed as duplicate without a gold badge owner's participation. (There's 5 votes on the closure) A gold badge owner comes in and s...

 
@PetterFriberg Aloha
 
Sorry for the onebox, but I think this is relevant to the room
Whoa, immediately downvoted.
Someone doesn't like anyone touching their powers xD
 
9:44 AM
@Cerbrus who is Mjolnir?
 
Not sure I like it @Cerbrus. What would happen if a question is reopened by 5 users (from too broad or another bad dupe) and a gold badgers wants to hammer now again but to a good dupe?
 
@ColdFire thor's hammer
 
wow only 3 downvotes
meta sure has gone down
 
@Tunaki I'm jsut saying reopen votes shouldn't outweigh close votes
Didn't consider the other way around, yet.
 
It is important ;) will leave a comment to stay on topic...
 
9:47 AM
@rene Just noticed edit is doing the same thing after some other edit. So probably nothing to do with the cv-pls script. False Alarm (SORRY)
 
@RiggsFolly yeah, no problem. Thanks for reporting, we might screw up as well but this one is for the SE Devs ;)
 
@rene Its is still strange that I have only noticed this over that last few days though
 
@RiggsFolly yeah, it needs that websocket edit message to come in between you loading the page, reading the question and hitting the close link. That doesn't happen often enough to notice the pattern I guess. Specially because reloading fixes the issue
 
I found an answer with +30 score that from the beginning had this "PS: Just copied from one of the answers on StackOverflow ;)" ..dear lord
I'm very sad I cannot find the original, because I would love to see this answer get deleted
 
10:02 AM
lol
 
@rene I have added a comment to the meta you linked to, I will attempt to be a little more aware of what order I do things in an effort to shine a little light on this
 
@TimCastelijns maybe the Internet archive has it?
 
Tunaki found it for me :)
 
OK
 
10:34 AM
but wow
 
Is someone able to edit a post on SO right now? Everytime I try to edit a post it throws me out of the editing.
 
yes just did one
 
@AshishAhujaツ Hiya
 
10:47 AM
\o
 
|o
 
The daily SOCVR body training fiesta
 
@RiggsFolly Or dupe?
 
11:14 AM
what is it with the link here?
 
^^ python folks? ^^
 
darn, mod nuked before I could even flag it :(
 
@rene Never heard of that site despite having used Python for decades.
 
11:33 AM
Guys. I think this was not spam: stackoverflow.com/posts/39270361/revisions read it again. It seems just like a poorly asked programming question.
 
 
Morning
 
@rene If you know what 'rtfm' means then it would be although they do seem to be attempting to get a better answer for the question.
 
@Louis in firefox you end-up on a webshop with gucci bags (might be the site of Pekka) so I report spam now.
 
11:37 AM
@rene There is a comment about broken link. do you thnk the link could have been taken over?
 
@NathanOliver maybe
 
I really do not want to nuke that. They are a "good" contributor.
 
Do I miss something here: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/39072 but this seems not like spam to me?
 
@rene Oh, wow. I get a "this site is for sale" thing that is common practice when someone forgets to renew their domain name. Maybe the extensions I run with Chrome block some script from redirecting.
 
@Henders yes, I know rtfm and I'm not bothered by it but I understand there might be an unclear line when it becomes rude. I'm trying to determine that line for myself.
 
11:39 AM
@Rizier123 To me that is not spam. Just a BAD question
 
@Louis yeah, only in FF I get on that site.
 
@NathanOliver So why was it nuked? It should be closed with missing MCVE, but not nuked.
 
@Rizier123 Someone mistook all the FedEx stuff to be spam for fedex and not that that was the problem with their website
 
@NathanOliver hmm, ok
 
@Rizier123 I left a admin message on metasmoke
 
11:43 AM
@NathanOliver It was reported here in chat by SD and then it got nuked.
 
@Rizier123 It was auto reported. Tuna ked it
 
@Rizier123 - It was my mistake. I saw SD report , 1 rep and several Rude flags. I nuked it. Fixing things now
 
@rene I think we could change the link to this or just get rid of it and say download the tool.
 
2 messages moved to Trash can
 
Morning all y'all \o>
 
11:45 AM
Hiya first
 
Hi @NathanOliver Got the jacket?
 
@rene my bad, I thought you were looking for opinions. Why couldn't it just be 'rtm' instead, eh? :P
 
Hiya second
 
@FirstStep Nah. It takes 6 to 8 units of time to arrive :(
 
@NathanOliver Something like light years and stuff.. I understand
@ColdFire congrats for the 5k+ !
 
11:47 AM
IP status is still blocked.. That shouldn't happen. lets see. @Rizier123 - I will check with Shog / bluefeet to remove this IP block. Thanks :)
 
@FirstStep well it would not be for long
 
@Henders yes, I'm looking for opinions. If you say No, it is not rude then I accept that.
 
I wanted to build a hello world android app so I can ask somethng but no need anymore @ColdFire
 
Mistakes can happen. As long as we fix them it's all fine :P
(Also I bet the flags you saw came from our room, so we probably messed up too)
 
@FirstStep such questions give tons of rep ...
 
11:48 AM
True that :)
 
Morning everyone o/
 
Hiya seth
 
@FirstStep you want to ask or not?
@FirstStep yeah too much rep
 
@Seth Everyone is not in the room
2
 
@Seth hey burning s guy
 
11:49 AM
@rene @ColdFire was maybe 20 rep below 5k and wanted to get that so bad :P So he helps me understand and I help him get it. Win-Win relation
 
46 seconds
nice
 
@FirstStep haha ok
 
@ColdFire I did not start it yet, today after work I will :D
 
@FirstStep ok
i wonder how much rep i will lose after doc
recalc
 
@ColdFire I want to do something on the Gui. Like choose from a drop down list and retrieve the related information + display sort of things :)
 
11:51 AM
Well if you wrote good docs, none ;)
 
@rene Aw :c
 
@NathanOliver wrote 1 edited 3
but what i wrote got 0 upvotes
so much for writing docs
 
@ColdFire Hey cold fire soldier guy :o
 
The later docs got nothing as people only look at the first few things
 
11:52 AM
@ColdFire That's what'cha get for doing docs! :p
 
@Seth :(
yeah docs rep system sucks
and sorting also
@FirstStep ok nice so i guess i have 10 SO questions to answer wow 250 rep nice
 
Answer of the day in terms of quality: stackoverflow.com/a/39270709/3933332
 
@Rizier123 Answer of the week, considering the tag.
 
@Seth But only because I didn't wrote an answer in this week :P
 
@Rizier123 I c what u did there :o
 
11:58 AM
hah
c:
 
@Rizier123 But you're probably right c: It's just that the main tags (PHP, Java, C++, C#, C ....) get flooded by bad questions & answers c:
Funnily, the low-traffic-tags have a (imo) way higher percentage of HQ-Q&As, compared to the high-traffic-/main-tags.
 
@Seth true that.
 
@TheLostMind sorry for the mess.... that link at the end I mistook for a link to buy coupon codes (I cannot see images and only see links....)
 
@Tunaki If you give us all free wafflez I think we can forget about that ;)
 
12:05 PM
@Tunaki - No "sorry" thingies please. It makes me cry... I made the same mistake :)
 
@Rizier123 lol
 
we can make wafflez together now then....
 
@Seth - That's probably because people using low-traffic-tags are usually experienced and know "what they are doing". So, they prefer searching for answers on google based on what they know. On the other hand, people in tags like java, C, C++ (especially newbies) don't know what they are doing. So, they are like ummm. How do I do this?
 
@Tunaki You can't apologize. I just got my pitchfork out.
 
:D
 
12:06 PM
wafflez..
 
@NathanOliver imgur.com/a/FDsst .
 
@TheLostMind Of course :) I - as a newbie - mostly use the Java tag.
 
@Queen k
 
@Rizier123 :)
 
Mostly because it's what I work with c:
And because every other programming language is inferior :} ...
Grabs popcorn
 
12:08 PM
obviously
 
most of the android question are even tagged java
well good for tuna he can dupe them
 
Well... ~160k out of ~890k android questions are tagged with java
ô.ô
 
without requiring an android hammer
wait since they are tagged java also tuna must have a android hammer by now?
 
Ugh.... That moment when people start speaking of themselves in the 3rd person >.< ...................
@ColdFire You don't earn hammers by hammering :]
 
@ColdFire nah, not even bronze. I avoid Android questions
 
12:12 PM
@Seth i know that but he has 56k rep must have answered some with android tag
@Tunaki aah i see
 
It's finally back. The PHP room CV tracker. It even has source
 
I still have 27 points in Android
 
nice
better than many people i guess
 
also because I removed the android tag from a lot of questions I answered, since irrelevant
 
yeah i guess right
 
12:23 PM
It is sad when you google the title of the post from an established user and the very first result is a great dupe target
 
I wanna create a userscript, that automatically opens the first result from the google search of the title in a new tab.
That'd help dupe close fast.
 
@BhargavRao Add to the search site:stackoverflow.com just to make sure you get a valid target?
 
Yeah. I gotta create that US asap.
 
For all you Java people... PHPJava
 
@Cerbrus Your common sense must have just made a batch of popcorn.
 
12:36 PM
He doesn't do his name honor ;-)
Excuse me, now I'm discussing a user :P *Hides*
 
that ^...
 
lol
 
we now return you to our regularly scheduled activities
 
What to flag if please gimme de code?
 
@FirstStep Close as no mcve rather ?
 
12:37 PM
Too broad works most times
 
Or that --^
 
@NathanOliver it is a single statement answer, Regex search thing
 
@FirstStep Take that filthy thing outta my face
 
current answer is not correct
 
>.<
 
12:38 PM
@kayess well yeah no MCVE
oh, the answer was marked as accepted. "Alrighty Then"
 
@FirstStep unclear as I see no apostrophes
 
@FirstStep doesn't mean the question shouldn't be BURNED
With FIRE
 
@Queen f
 
In a volcano!
 
In hell (aka. CV-review-queue)!
 
12:42 PM
I am sorry guys. My bad. The answer is correct. it prints abc as OP desired.
 
@RiggsFolly You might be interested in this. PHP CV backlog. All the recent CVs in the PHP tag
 
:D
 
As expected, YCS resorted to ad-hominem comments after a short discussion.
Can we please close this meta question as dupe?
 
no meta moderation
 
1:00 PM
@TheLostMind Less rude would be if you would just go outside enjoy some fresh air instead of being here. – ctomek 5 mins ago . *Ouchie*
 
@TheLostMind Uhh >.<
 
@TheLostMind it was reported by Queen ;)
 
@Cerbrus Does it make sense to close a feature-request as a dup of a discussion?
 
@Tunaki - And handled by a mod whose name starts with "T" ends with "D" and has "HELOSTMIN" in the middle :P
2
 
@NisseEngström Why not? The discussion is the answer to why these requests are always rejected
@TheLostMind: Wanna look at that meta question I just linked? OP is resorting to ad-hominems
 
1:02 PM
@TheLostMind :D
 
> no meta moderation
 
@TheLostMind I love Thelos T Min!
 
@TheLostMind You lost MIN??? Will MAX be okay?
 
@Seth You are not a SOCVR mod, and you really don't have to repeat that.
 
@Cerbrus All users on "mods" when the RO's are not around. Please keep meta moderation out.
 
1:04 PM
I'm just asking a moderator that's active in the room to have a look at some personal insults. Who cares if it's on meta.
 
If you need a mod to do something, mod flag, that is how you get mods in action
chat is for just chatting unless the mod initiates the conversation for mod work.
 
@Cerbrus 1.) I am not, 2.) Apparently I do have to.
 
Meanwhile, the offending comments are removed. Much appreciated.
 
@Machavity Yup, will keep an eye on that. A good way to use up votes just before bed time
 
@Queen k
 
user3956566
1:10 PM
good evening. I wanted to show you all the fastest burnination in history
 
user3956566
on that note I shall say farewell \o
 
user3956566
;)
 
farewell o/
 
farewell o/
 
Where are you going @Yve ?
@Bha \o
 
user3956566
1:11 PM
@Tunaki @Kyll you're both in my severest of baddest books ever... will see you both in slack ;) (if you dare)
 
user3956566
@kayess back to bed my sweet
 
@kayess o/ (been here since morn, doing some weird stuff in an alien language called Java)
 
@Machavity Although currently it is reporting Cache file(s) currently unavailable is there a update cycle I have stepped into the middle of?
 
user3956566
I'm having trouble sleeping. it's so annoying
 
@Yvette saying farewell just because you are going to sleep ?:x
@BhargavRao Right, java dudes are weird (see: Tukani)
 
user3956566
1:12 PM
@kayess yeh, like bye \o
 
@RiggsFolly Not sure. I don't run it sadly. It's a Room 11 innovation
 
@Machavity ok its no biggy
 
@Yvette sounded more like "I'm leaving this place for good"
 
user3956566
farewell = bye= ciao = see ya later
 
user3956566
@kayess oh no, I only do that when I'm cranky
 
user3956566
1:13 PM
and then I storm out saying I'm leaving - which I technically do, I leave the room, but I come back
 
@Yvette cranky I like that, now that rene used to be grumpy you two could make out a perfect pair :p
 
@kayess She's quitting this one squirrel taco stand
 
user3956566
@kayess yep we are quite compatible on the crank meter
 
JAL
morning all
 
hi @JAL
 
user3956566
1:14 PM
@Machavity yeh, and I often toss that stinky mammal out the window ;)
 
user3956566
hi Jal \o
 
user3956566
any way, that burnination I linked is the anti-godaddy
 
user3956566
;)
 
user3956566
a little respite for socvr
 
Hiya @jal
 
1:15 PM
hey
 
\o>
 
@Yvette hey
 
user3956566
@ColdFire yo bro?
 
yo*
i guess
 
user3956566
yeh yo ;)
 
1:18 PM
@Yvette awesome wbu?
 
Smm sou suys speak strange sanguage...
 
user3956566
@ColdFire well I need to sleep, but I keep thinking about that android app. I want to get up and do it, but I won't let myself, as I need to sleep.
 
user3956566
@kayess so strue sayess, so strue
 
@Yvette oki
 
@Yvette so set some sleep sarling, sou seed sit
 
user3956566
1:20 PM
does anyone else get like that? when I start a project, I find it hard to sleep, I dream about it and think about it in bed
 
I used to think about different things in bed...
 
if you think about it too much
@kayess lol
 
user3956566
@kayess sess, sayess, so strue, so strue, sand sank sou sy sear ssss <- sose sare sisses sand sugs
 
user3956566
@kayess sos
 
@Yvette sow seplacing l sith s sis sa sew srend? :\
 
user3956566
1:22 PM
@kayess ses si suess so O>O
 
Bye guys, I'll join later
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao bye
 
bye
 
@BhargavRao siya
 
Bye @BhargavRao
 
1:26 PM
 
@Tunaki GZ!
 
@Cerbrus , @NathanOliver - I don't want to lock YCS's post. Please don't post off topic comments there. You could create a different room and sort things out
 
@TheLostMind Is it off topic to talk about the off topicness of the Q?
 
@Seth yes it was
 
1:28 PM
Hm.
Blacklist-request?
 
Burnaki tracks it now... but it isn't launched
so..........
 
What?
o.o
 
It's yet another of the same request. Nitpicking why it shouldn't be closed is just... ugh.
 
@Tunaki What isn't "launched"?
 
@NathanOliver - too many comments that are leading (honestly) nowhere
 
1:30 PM
@Seth I mean it's not started. Otherwise it would have posted chat messages here for all new questions.
See this answer now stackoverflow.com/a/39272936/1743880 What are the pictures? <-- Warning potential very rudeness
 
@Tunaki Screenshot of a rude message :)
"I don't need an ashole coming to my post [...] + go hide in a little corner.
 
@Tunaki deleted while writing a comment. :(
 
This answer is really stupid though. :]
Really, really, really stupid :]
 
Should I edit to remove the user shaming?
Mod flag?
 
It's deleted already @NathanOliver
 
1:33 PM
Mod flag is needed in the whole question IMO
there are a number of deleted comments there
 
@NathanOliver That's 100% of the answer ;-)
 
@Yvette stalker ;) pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CpGyWmNWEAA6chP.mp4 "don't reply"
 
That usershaming was really over the top though...
 
@Seth They can still do stuff though. user shaming in public is bag juju
 
@NathanOliver What's bag juju? :s
 
1:34 PM
karma
kinda
 
Oh, from this room. Yea, remove it imo.
 
Oh
 
nahh not karma. poor guy had nothing to do with it
 
Nice edit @Tunaki
 
Oh. The meta post got deleted.
@TheLostMind Was that you? :o
 
Would someone mind removing from these questions and retagging them with (new tag!) ? Or just remove the CNN tag?
 
@Seth it says the new tag is too long
And there already exists tag btw
Done.
 

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