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7:01 AM
@SmokeDetector vandalism reverted
 
@Mahesha999 A lot of information is very useful. Over time it turned out that not all information is best kept in a Q/A format. The polling/list questions are a good example of that. You'll find many from the early days. 6 years later we are sure these where not the greatest questions ever posted, despite their popularity.
 
@DEAD "locked to be preserved" comm'on that really does not make sense literally...even stackoverflow never says it that way...it says "locked since offtopic" and then "preserved for historical significance" and I feel that should have different meaning (I dont get the meaning of "locked to be preserved")
 
@Mahesha999 It's locked so it won't get deleted. Off-topic questions usually get deleted.
 
@Mahesha999 I suppose eventually we could consider deleting it once the content is too badly out of date
 
Why do you think adding an answer to such questions would be 'helpful for developers'?
 
7:05 AM
relevant meta search: meta.stackoverflow.com/…
 
so where should I find such information on stackexchange ?...enhanced by and useful to developers...should I resort to non-stackexchange sites / web ?
 
Yes, Quora, blogs, reddit are great places to find this information
 
@Mahesha999 Stack Exchange never meant to cover all questions, and it never will.
 
@Mahesha999 ultimately "should I switch" questions are extremely subjective, and so not particularly suitable for the Stack Exchange format
reddit has upvotes / downvotes which should help raise useful content to the top in the default view, but my very limited experience is that it doesn't work very well there
also because n years later, you don't know if the highly upvoted thing is still true
 
I really have no authority on this site's rules. But I can tell you one TRUTH: "deleting something straight which has been revised/edited by developer community in hope that it will some day help someone else, putting hours in those edits over years and years is SIN ". There should be stackoverflow-off-topic-questions-site on stackexchage.
If stackoverflow really dont want to keep these questions which community contributed over years, it has got no eternal rights to lock them. Just move them to this off-topic-sister-site and let them breath alive. No offense.
 
user4639281
7:16 AM
@Mahesha999 Tried that, didn't work
 
really? what? sister-site?
 
user4639281
It started out great, turned out bad, took a lot of cleaning up, and became something completely different
 
so you mean such questions wont be closed on programmers.stackexchange ?
 
@Mahesha999 also related search on MSE: meta.stackexchange.com/search?q=npr
@Mahesha999 programmers.se is even more strict than SO
 
user4639281
7:19 AM
No, they used to not be closed on not-programming-related stack exchange, they would be closed in heartbeat on prog.se
 
waffles
 
Takes waffles
 
user4639281
It turns out that no matter how hard you try to make a Q&A site for everything that doesn't fit into the Q&A format, it still just doesn't fit into the Q&A format
 
user4639281
There are places on the internet for all of that stuff, they just happen to not be on the Stack Exchange network
 
user4639281
Places like Quora and Reddit
 
user4639281
7:22 AM
I'm having a hard time finding the meta post about npe's failure
 
Hiya
 
@rene "programmers.se is even more strict than SO" lol so there is literally no place for such questions on stackexchange...may be the site's admin have (somehow) made such a decision to kick so called off-topic stuff out...
 
@Mahesha999 If one posts a question, without having read the rules, or despite having read the rules, that clearly is off-topic, then we have every right in the world to delete that question, along with its answers.
 
hmmm...I get now stackoverflow just dont want it....sad since its still useful to developer community and stackoverflow wont back it or may be I am still missing some point
 
@Mahesha999 The thing is, if you use a service you should read the rules.
 
And, if you do not agree with them, don't use the service.
Once you've used the service you automatically agree on following these rules.
 
ok...
 
@Mahesha999 Brushing their teeth is useful for programmers. But we don't want toothbrushes on SO.
 
We don't?! Why am I here?!
 
SO wants to focus on what it can do best.
@Tunaki I ate Tuna for lunch yesterday.
 
7:34 AM
@Tunaki Relax, we didn't say anything about Tunas yet :p
 
brush -> I got it
 
@DEAD Tactical nuke in 3... 2... 1...
 
lol
 
I have worked years on my toothbrush question :(
 
@Mahesha999 thing is, SO can be a blog, a forum, a Q/A site, a chatroom, and a washing machine at the same time. But it won't be doing any of those jobs well. So let's focus on what it can do well.
@Tunaki Only to find it's a dupe.
 
7:36 AM
@DEAD lol
 
@DEAD It's a Q&A-site and a chatroom at the same time though o.o
And also a washing mashine, we clean dirty questions from noise err'day
 
lol
 
@Tunaki I'm not kidding you: stackoverflow.com/search?q=toothbrush
 
Rene you can't even kid yourself.
 
You're such an honest person.
And lovely.
 
lol
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/39243514/… ==> tags: converter, language .. <facepalm>
 
404 @TheLostQuestion
 
Somebody ate that question.
 
7:42 AM
i was hungry
 
deleted
 
@TheLostMind They're not not paying you to eat work material.
 
@DEAD They're not paying him at all :o
 
@DEAD - I eat what I want. Nobody can stop me
 
So he just .. you know .. takes his payment :p
 
7:43 AM
lol
 
@Seth Well yeah, that's what I said
@TheLostMind YOU CAN'T INGEST ME BWAHHA
 
!!/blame
 
@ColdFire It's Cold Fire's fault.
 
I'm deadly.
 
lol
 
7:44 AM
@DEAD - I don't eat dead things
 
>.< Someone take a look at this please.
I gave the final "vote", but it's 2/1/3
 
user4639281
@TheLostMind so.... you only eat living things?
 
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runs away screaming
 
Triage sounds like I never want it on my site.
It's even vaguer than First Posts.
 
@TinyGiant You are too small, he won't be eating you :p
 
7:45 AM
@TinyGiant - I don't eat Tiny Giants, flowers and fishes
 
@DEAD Indeed :]
 
lol
 
@TheLostMind What about giant letters (that burn)?
 
@TheLostMind what about tuna fish?
 
user4639281
Triage is a great example of how to do everything wrong
 
7:46 AM
@Seth - Nope. @ColdFire - Yes :P
 
nah he's kidding
 
Plop
 
Hiya
 
Pulp
 
Hey :p
 
7:46 AM
Hey everyone
 
user4639281
 
pulp
 
And the next thirty five messages are greetings and train wrecks.
 
user4639281
HA
 
HE
 
7:47 AM
lol
 
user4639281
EH
 
I disagree with that
 
quick mod question: How can I move trash messages put in a room (SQL) to another room (friendly bin)?
 
i disagree with disagree
 
so you agree?
 
7:48 AM
@AndyK click "room > move messages" then select the messages you want to move, and enter the name of the target room.
 
I misagree.
 
i disagree with disagree and disagree with agree
 
Hiya
 
Hayo
 
awesome @Tunaki you're the man
 
7:50 AM
Hoya @Bhargav o/
 
@AndyK The fish
 
@DEAD the tuna fish
 
Don't get the species wrong.
@ColdFire Tuna the tuna fish is a bit redundant.
 
@DEAD but Tuna the fish isnt redundant
 
Funa the tish, however.
 
@Seth not google support
 
> We was wondering
 
@DEAD tunaki = tuna fish ? -_-'
 
didn't we have a bot to keep an eye on burninated tags? Was it from @Mogsdad ?
 
Taking grammatical number agreement to a whole new level
 
7:53 AM
@rene what do you mean by "keep an eye"?
 
Take screenshots
 
user4639281
@rene That was the burned tags monitor room and it was using feeds I think
 
ah, see
 
I almost have more rep on Meta.SE then on SO now ._. ..
 
user4639281
It didn't work because once a tag is removed it kills the feed, when it comes back the feed doesn't come back, so it only works while the tag is empty, but has yet to be removed
 
7:54 AM
If it'd only be that easy to gain rep on SO :|
 
what was the purpose of that bot @Tiny?
 
Feeds is a bit noisy ... @sam can Yam report on questions that get tagged with burninated tags?
 
@Seth Taking you even closer . . .
 
user4639281
@Tunaki Too alert us when / if burninated tags were ever created again
 
user4639281
Where's @Kyll when you need him
 
7:55 AM
@DEAD xD
 
@rene Burnaki can do that
and already does
 
@Seth You use too much bold at the first paragraphs though.
 
on on-going burnination
 
user4639281
@Tunaki But not on tags that have been burninated and removed?
 
@DEAD Naw, emphasizing is important! c:
 
7:56 AM
it could
 
@Tunaki oh, OK, can you add to it? based on this
 
@tuna Feature-Request: Go through the list of burnination requests on meta and report all those that have been completed but w/o [status-completed].
 
and maybe leave a comment there?
 
@Seth Yes, but there is no need to embolden something that the heart of sentence structure puts an emphasis on.
 
7:58 AM
@DEAD Hell yeah :3
Tbh, you are probably right c: But I liek it tu much liek dis
 
**ʕ ⊃・ ◡ ・ ʔ⊃**︵┻━┻
Oh, didn't work.
 
@rene I could add a list of tags to watch, and post a message on new questions (that'll be easily done, I have everything). But where? Here?
 
@DEAD lol
 
Apparently Pikachu isn't courageous.
 
user4639281
 
8:00 AM
@Tunaki it needs eyes so I say yes, if it gets too noisy we can @kyll it again
 
ok, will do that this evening
 
Plop!
Wait what
 
user4639281
lol
 
What wait
 
@BhargavRao Ah interesting. That is a one-time job though.
 
user4639281
8:01 AM
We're all just pinging you @kyll
 
@Kyll no we're not
 
@Tunaki Evening? Get your priorities right ... ;)
 
lol
 
:)
 
user4639281
@Tunaki Wait, are we not @kyll
 
8:01 AM
(:
 
@Kyll yes we are not @Kyll
 
@TinyGiant yes, we @kyll are
 
Oh
 
user4639281
lol @kyll
 
You want the Watch tags?
 
8:02 AM
@Sam Your AIs are going mad :| Halpings plz
 
haha
 
@Kyll No! Don't give them that, they'll use them o.o
 
user4639281
@Kyll You check out the JS weirdness yet?
 
[stack-overflow] [legal] [licensing] [microsoft] [copyright] [software] [creative-commons] [lgpl] [gpl] [ownership] [blogs] [open-source] [jobs] [apple] [driver] [drivers] [linux] [privacy] [design] [webpage] [networking] [vpn] [seo]
 
user4639281
mind blowing good times
 
8:03 AM
@TinyGiant On it
 
user4639281
:P
 
@TinyGiant What JS weirdness?
 
haven't had any coffee yet, barely out of bed
 
lol
 
@TinyGiant Aren't JS and weirdness synonyms?
 
8:03 AM
You're tough on the Spearrel
 
haha
 
@Kyll You are missing a few :o
 
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@Tunaki Yes
 
@Seth Wait, I am! Hold on
 
8:04 AM
@Kyll yes you are missing some
 
@Kyll stack-overflow legal licensing microsoft copyright software creative-commons lgpl gpl ownership blogs open-source jobs apple osx driver drivers linux privacy design webpage networking vpn seo linuxmint archlinux setting web grub api api-design settings web-crawler spam protection search-engine
 
[stack-overflow] [legal] [licensing] [microsoft] [copyright] [software] [creative-commons] [lgpl] [gpl] [ownership] [blogs] [open-source] [jobs] [apple] [driver] [drivers] [linux] [privacy] [design] [webpage] [networking] [vpn] [seo] [linuxmint] [archlinux] [setting] [settings] [web] [grub] [api] [api-design] [web-crawler] [ubuntu] [spam] [protection] [search-engine] [sysadmin] [kali-linux] [code-smell] [naming-conventions] [naming] [operating-system]
 
Now I am missing some ._.
 
lol
 
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@Kyll [code-quality] [coding-style]
 
8:05 AM
@TinyGiant Oh o.o I don't know if that's weird or not, I don't do JS :p
 
We have ? Why don't spammers ever use it?
 
What's the plan now btw? Do you guys want to build a bot that monitors these tags?
 
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@Seth Well, the first example should be the same as the second
 
BRB heading to meta asking for a way to educate spammers
 
@TinyGiant Mh yeah
 
8:06 AM
@DEAD lol no idea
 
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@Kyll I worked hard on [code-quality], it better be on the darn list :P
 
Overall: [stack-overflow] [legal] [licensing] [microsoft] [copyright] [software] [creative-commons] [lgpl] [gpl] [ownership] [blogs] [open-source] [jobs] [apple] [driver] [drivers] [linux] [privacy] [design] [webpage] [networking] [vpn] [seo] [linuxmint] [archlinux] [setting] [settings] [web] [grub] [api] [api-design] [web-crawler] [ubuntu] [spam] [protection] [search-engine] [sysadmin] [kali-linux] [code-smell] [naming-conventions] [naming] [operating-system] [code-quality] [coding-style]
 
@TinyGiant Ah o.o Welp, I would like to help, but I cannot ._. I only do Java
 
@Tiny Not sure what's weird there...?
Seems like normal behaviour to me
 
user4639281
psshh real programming languages dont have typing systems
 
8:08 AM
Ah, I see
 
user4639281
Oh, you see now? I was going to explain what I mean
 
You have meaning?
 
During a chain assignment the assignee (thing) only gets the value of the last assignation
 
user4639281
@Tunaki I mean having
 
where is Mogsdad when you need the dad jokes
 
user4639281
8:09 AM
oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh
 
@TinyGiant Yeah, bit stoopid if you ask me
 
user4639281
It is assigning the value of the final returned function to both things
 
(The behaviour, not your face)
@TinyGiant Exactly yeah
 
@Queen k
 
Can't believe I actually taught you a JS thing though
 
user4639281
8:11 AM
let scope = {};

(scope.thing = (prop => {
    return { hello: prop };
})('world')).otherthing = (prop => {
    return { foo: prop };
})('bar');

console.log(scope);
 
user4639281
^^^ That works tho
 
JS is weird.
 
Yeah to both
 
I discussed the reverse a while back, a bot to monitor questions which doesn't have at least one of (set of tags), I have the list in a gist (sorry about the rhyme)
 
user4639281
You reminded me of something I knew, but was too stupid to remember
 
@TinyGiant Also, const scope in that case
 
user4639281
well yeah, premature optimization and all
 
@TinyGiant No, just eradability
 
user4639281
I know I know :P
 
eradfsdjkflity
 
user4639281
8:13 AM
I can't be perfect all the time
 
@tripleee ah I remember that
 
Just be Magic™ all the time then!
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
Magic™ fading, bed time, c'y'all t'morrah
 
@TinyGiant Cya o/
 
8:23 AM
@TinyGiant o/
Tiny leaves, diamonds barge in. Are we on to something?
 
@Kyll Shh :p
 
Cya Tiny \o
 
user4639281
8:38 AM
Finally got unicode input working on win 10. Works like Magic™
 
user4639281
now I'm actually going to bed
 
Bye, Sleep well. :)
 
@Yvette ... but ... I made a typo there ... You want me to pin my mistakes on the starboard? I would totally own the starboard ...
 
@rene You're right, better leave it to Plop.
 
Aloha
 
8:49 AM
@Queen that's a dupe from python end, @tuna
 
9:05 AM
How can I see who the creator of a certain tag is?
 
@Seth you can't
 
@rene Darn :|
 
@Queen k
 
but you may be able to pinpoint the oldest existing message and perhaps correlate that with the information in the tag
 
Welp, does anyone know what has to do with this?
 
9:07 AM
@Seth quick googling for "tensorflow cnn" gets me this: tensorflow.org/versions/r0.10/tutorials/deep_cnn/index.html
 
@tripleee yeah, posthistory has those events but only for still visible posts
 
@tripleee Ah :) Why does one use "cnn" as tag instead of "convolutional neural network"? :s
 
^ - Is pure garbage
 
@DalijaPrasnikar That was a spam seed I guess o.o
Got deleted.
@TheLostMind I agree c: Was it a spam seed? Or just a trash post?
 
@Seth maybe because the tag already existed? not investigating
 
9:11 AM
@Seth - Didn't see any specific link.. Just nuked it because it was garbage
 
@tripleee Nope, created 15h ago >.< ..
@TheLostMind :p
 
@Seth Hard to say. Good that it is deleted though.
 
@Seth then maybe find the dozen or so questions and retag them
oops, correction, there is only one, but it has many followers
 
@tripleee Tagged [1]
Aye :|
And me cannot retag ^-^ Me cannot create new tags, that is.
 
@Seth I simply removed it
 
9:13 AM
I can remove tags, but I cannot create new ones ._. My sole purpose is destruction...
@tripleee Thanks :]
 
My sole purpose is destruction... .LOL
4
 
@Seth if you think you can demostrate a need for something like convolutional-neural-networks I guess I can create one, but if it doesn't already exist, I'm kind of skeptical of the utility
 
@Seth this is the best you can get: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/531586
 
@tripleee Same here :p
@rene Thanks!
@TheLostMind :D
 
@Queen f
@Queen k
 
user3956566
9:26 AM
@rene well. you could make a message without typos and pin that.. ..
 
responsibility is when you comment "show us some code" on a question to which you already have the code <**>
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind you're one of the nicest people I know, that statement just rings false sorry ;)
 
10 messages moved to SOCVR Request Graveyard ^ how to farm helpful flags
 
@Yvette He quoted me :p
 
user3956566
@Seth ah, yes it is all clear ;)
 
9:27 AM
@Yvette Makes sense now, eh? I am Seth, bringer of destruction (and waffles)
 
@Yvette - No. Yam is nicer
Burnaki isn't too nice though. He helps burn things
 
It's cold.
 
@TheLostMind He doesn't help burning things, he initiates and leads the burnings of things :o
 
user3956566
@Seth well you'd like to think you are, but I know you have a heart ;)
 
@Yvette Nawwwww
 
user3956566
9:29 AM
@Seth seth sou soo! sou so soo. ;)
 
@Yvette Sever! Si sont save shat ;o Shat's sa sie
 
user3956566
@Seth sno sit's she struth!
 
user3956566
sonly sthree seople sunderstand sus say sayess @kayess ;)
 
user3956566
ok I'm going to ask Miss Bee to get me a batch and close me some android
 
su sar sight @syeveete
 
user3956566
9:33 AM
@TheLostMind so sy sod!! se sunderstands sus!
 
@TheLostMind Hey, we only play with the "S", we don't swap t's for e's o.o
 
runs away
 
SheSostSind sat sit sagain
 
user3956566
@Seth so sypical!
 
@Yvette Sas sexpected :c
 
user3956566
9:36 AM
so strue
 
I think we need to stop now, I feel like the flower is slowly coming closer >.<
 
Nice :D
 
9:55 AM
@Queen k
 
user3956566
10:06 AM
this room is all about the business tonight ;)
 
Weird. The comments here were cleared but my flag asking for the clean-up is still pending.
 
@Kyll both comment flag and mod flag?
 
@PetterFriberg There was like 15 comments
 
did you flag both or only modflag?
 
Only mod-flag
(IIRC)
 
10:09 AM
because I have seen the same but I flag 1 comment (to point to the problem), then I put a mod flag (since there is much more)... all comments cleaned up, but mod flag pending.
I taught this was due to que, hence a mod saw the comment flag, step by, clean up all and move on...
The mod flag on post still pending...
In fact I retracted it and now I never flag a comment if I mod flag the post.
but even if you did not flag a comment, maybe someone else did so same stuff can have happen...
When mod steps by we can ask them about this.. different ques... normal?
 
@Queen k
 
ops wasted a unclear vote...
 
@Queen k
 
10:46 AM
Thank you for the screenshot. I'll use it as my Desktop wallpaper. — Tushar 14 secs ago
he he
 
afk
 
laterz
 
Sam
11:07 AM
@Tunaki Just run the stats command to see how many reviews Closey's logged for you.
@rene Currently, no. You have to manually add the questions via the watch command.
 
@Sam it looks like Burnaki handles is and it will added tonight. Thanks for looking into it though.
 
Yam
@Kyll I tried, but it's all blurry.
 
Sam
@rene np
 
@SmokeDetector should we delete vote if it doesn't get enough flags within a minute or two?
 
11:17 AM
@tripleee That's wasting a vote. Just let flags do their work I guess
Might also not carry the same penalty
 
it took longer than I expected, I guess the room is below capacity today ...
I don't mind wasting a vote if it helps removing offensive junk faster
spam, broken URL but still spam
 
Morning
 
11:38 AM
@Queen k
@Queen k
@Sam k
@Clo stats me
 
@Tunaki Sorry, I don't understand that. Maybe you meant my stats <details|full>.
 
@Clo my stats
 
@Tunaki You've reviewed 0 posts today.
 
I know love
 
You know, love, or you now know what love is?
 
11:41 AM
I, know love
 
@NathanOliver yes
 
@NathanOliver Love is when you write a 50-lines function and it works on the first try #DontDoubtDontTest
 
@Tunaki Aw. Did you two set a date yet?
 
do a double date, bring Burni and Queen to....
 
@PetterFriberg Not sure that is a good idea. There was some tension there for a while when Queen first started running. She was stealing all of Tuna's attention and Closey started acting up.
 
11:45 AM
@NathanOliver that's how all love story start, isn't it?
 
well now there is Burni also, I think they will manage : )
 
burni lol
 
@Braiam Boy meets bot, other bot gets in the way, boy and bot make up and live happily ever after?
 
ROFL NO
 
speaking of the trouble maker ;)
 
11:48 AM
lol, she wants attention
 
haha
 
@Queen k
@Queen k
 
Single liner Q
 
Tushar kinda harsh ?
 
No. I give answer
 
11:59 AM
@Tushar Looks fine to me
 

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