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12:03 AM
Should I start a burnination request for ? It has 5 followers and 20 questions. Synonymous to ?
^ is that NAA or VLQ?
 
@AndrewL. i think we should wait for the answerer to respond to this
 
Doubt it. I wouldn't expect someone to reply in English considering the conditions.
 
wait a second, it's just spam!
 
Flag as spam
As for non-english and no spam
> Answers written in non-English should be flagged as not an answer.
From here
 
12:36 AM
@rene You are
:D
 
O.O
 
@Magisch I didn't know his name was Herb
 
I found this quest text in wow and its about a flower that reacts to changes in the area around it
 
Too much activity and it starts closing up?
 
part of the herbalism profession quest chain
 
12:45 AM
Weird, cv-pls button not availabe on this q
meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/333507/… Is there anything I should add? This isn't a burninate request just probably a synonym request
A retag of all qs in the tag would be best
meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/333471/… Wouldn't that be off-topic or is it ok? My flag was declined
 
1:17 AM
!!/unnotify 41570 stackoverflow.com
 
@dorukayhan I will no longer ping you if I report a post on stackoverflow.com, in room 41570 on chat.stackoverflow.com
 
 
1 hour later…
2:21 AM
Why does the edit queue have so many 'test's or audits?
 
user3956566
@Tunaki no worries and thanks for letting us know ;)
 
user3956566
@ColdFire I might go back to handsome man, I miss him ;)
 
user3956566
@Kyll punches small mammal in face I just realised how cruel I am to small mammals O.O
 
@Yvette I'm finally at 2k!
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. Congratulations!! I am so happy for you
 
2:25 AM
Is there a retag effort with ? There's a user flooding the queue with retags from to .
The edits are appropriate because is explicitly not for Microsoft Access but should I approve the edits?
 
user3956566
this gets a downvote? the thing that ticks me off about it, is I lose a delete vote. takes my rep back to 11999. Spiteful downvoters. grrrr
 
!!!
Oh my, looks like a great answer
 
user3956566
Oh Yeh, random downvoter, bravo! Revenge must be sweet, as I can only say it would be a spite downvote on a decent answer. — Yvette 1 min ago
 
user3956566
Someone has gone to my profile and just downvoted the first thing they can see which is that
 
You've only been here for 2 years @Yvette?
 
2:30 AM
Revenge votes on answers? Strange, usually that happens on questions.
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara yeh I know
 
user3956566
maybe they already downvoted all my questions
 
user3956566
most of my posts have at least one downvote
 
^ Most of my questions randomly got all downvoted one day
I didn't have enough questions for it to count as serial apparently
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. I joined 5ish years ago (would have to calculate it). that account was closed and this is a new one
 
2:31 AM
Oh, I was going to say - you seem like a veteran
I was here back in 2013?ish. Decided to start giving back to the community last year :)
 
user3956566
my first post but I was on the site for over a year before asking anything
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. yeh so similar. A lot of people lurk before contributing
 
user3956566
I would've joined in Dec 2012
 
I intended to join sooner; but I had little to no experience. I just hung around sometimes just to read
I basically still have no experience :P
This user has gained ~102 rep just from editing questions and retagging to . Is this ok? This is about the 5?th proposal that has come across in the queue for me in less than 30 minutes
 
@AndrewL. Yes, as the access tag explicitly states it should not be used this is welcome moderation.
 
2:38 AM
Ok
 
(assuming the retags are on questions that are about MS access)
 
They are
 
Then it's fine.
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. tell me about it, sometimes I feel like I know what I'm doing, others I feel like I know so little
 
I just keep pushing myself to learn more :)
 
2:40 AM
@AndrewL. Never stop doing that :-)
 
user3956566
same and I love it. I wish I was like Jon Skeet
 
It's a good way to keep growing in general.
 
user3956566
yep I agree
 
I dont want to grow :(
 
D:
 
user3956566
2:41 AM
and the technologies keep changing, so we are forced to learn
 
It's a trap
 
The day Jon Skeet surpasses 1 million will be a glorious day
 
@Enzokie We all need a break sometimes, but if you stop learning you'll eventually start falling behind.
 
user3956566
@Enzokie that's ok bubba you don't have to grow gives baby pats
 
user3956566
@Oldskool tell me about it, I feel so burnt out and am having trouble getting those energy coffers filled. From studying and working
 
user3956566
2:43 AM
@rene hey I think it will be good to pin this
 
The edits queues always give me tests and they are always so blatantly obvious >.<
It's literally just some random words inserted into a post.
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. they're taken from real life edit suggestion - go figure
 
Wait, they are real suggestions?
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. yep.. I'm sure there's a post on meta somewhere
 
BTW what it feels to have a first job?
 
user3956566
2:47 AM
@Enzokie exhilarating and a let down
 
@Yvette it seems like it's just two random questions that are smushed and mashed together
 
user3956566
unless you get to contract in your favourite technology, then the work is 90% enjoyable, 10% boring, but there will always be stress of delivery and bugs
 
There was one on Steam and SteamOS infused with a one with about MongoDB I believe
 
user3956566
maybe I'm wrong
 
My uncle creates low level stuff at intel
 
2:50 AM
@Yvette :)
 
Stays up till 3 AM fixing bugs
The stress of keeping a senior engineer position
 
user3956566
@Enzokie that's what I do. I studied like crazy and didn't listen to people who told me what sort of work I should get. I wanted to work from home (remotely) in the technology I love. To begin with I wasn't sure what that was. I loved everything I learned. The key is study like crazy.
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. yep, there will always be stress
 
I go over to his house every other year in San Francisco. He's always writing assembly or something, clacking away at his keyboard
Family > Work
 
user4639281
3:16 AM
@AndrewL. Please do not reference user profiles in here
 
Sorry @TinyGiant, I should've known better. Not sure why I posted the profile, not the suggested edit
 
user4639281
Thanks
 
user3956566
3:45 AM
@Enzokie I'm going to tell you something, go and get enough rep to cast close votes.. and you know what? The last 2/3 people I told that to, now have that rep @AshishAhujaツ @AndrewL. @kayess ;)
 
@Yvette ok I'll try :)
 
I'll try for 3k rep :)
Just spent some time in the edit queue
@Yvette someday I'll reach 10k. What a day that'll be
 
user3956566
@Enzokie answer one question per day ;)
 
How do people get 2k rep per week? Documentation?
 
user4639281
Jon Skeet
 
3:55 AM
Oh yeah, how could I forget: Jon Skeet = Magic
 
user3956566
@AndrewL. good posts
 
But 200 cap for upvotes. They must have some other source
A ton of accepts?
 
user4639281
Waffles
 
user4639281
200 x 7 = 1400 + 2 bounties = profit
 
user4639281
Oh wait, no rep cap on accepted answers or something, must research
 
3:58 AM
~240 x 7 = 1680
 
user4639281
meta.stackexchange.com/a/32161/288751 <--- accepts count after rep cap
 
> About the rep cap, are all accepts in the day excluded from rep cap?
Andrew L.
> Yes
 
user4639281
]ok
 
I will not worry about reaching 200 per day, thats impossible in my situation
 
It's possible!
I reached 216 yesterday
 
4:01 AM
I am awake 25 hours a day, so yeah ;)
 
Does VS-15 == VS-2015?
 
Japanese text (I think) stackoverflow.com/a/39239967/5217712
How to moderate such asnwere?
 
user4639281
> Not how to read English . . Maybe this is what you want
 
user4639281
Chinese according to google
 
Chinese!
It says they can't really read english but this is what they want
 
4:10 AM
ironically my grandmother was a Chinese ;)
 
Not a Chinese, but just Chinese :P
 
user4639281
It is technically still is an attempted answer, because the code is in english, so the NaA flag does not apply. This is VLQ because it has severe content problems
 
user4639281
The severe content problem being that it is in a different language.
 
@Enzokie Japanese has Chinese characters and squiggly ones. Look for the ones that are round and look like sideways smiley faces :)
 
:)
 
4:14 AM
 
@TinyGiant O: you can see invis?
 
user4639281
@Enzokie 10K privilege
 
I was wrong about a synonym, should I just delete post? meta.stackoverflow.com/q/333507/5647260
 
@TinyGiant it's late, what am I looking for? :)
 
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4:19 AM
@undo the exact copy deleted answer below
 
user4639281
deleted by you
 
Oh, heh.
 
user4639281
figured if you deleted one, you might want to know if the user posted an exact duplicate again
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. You cannot delete, has upvoted answer
 
Mind throwing it in an edit? I'm on mobile and convert to edit only works with OP answers
 
user4639281
4:21 AM
kk
 
ta :)
I'd like to have a feature where I can press the button harder to force it to convert. That probably won't happen, but it'd be fun
 
Oh yeah, haha. It's getting late
 
user4639281
It's kind of hard to edit that into the question. I'm just going to leave it as comment-esque and hope for the best
 
Yeah, that's fine. Moderation is mostly "meh, good enough"
Deleted
AFK now, sleeping eventually. Cya folks!
 
user4639281
> Removed tags from title; noise reduction; Added comment-answer into question (I know it looks bad, couldn't figure out what else to do) chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/32575815#32575815
 
user4639281
4:24 AM
edit comment ^^^
 
How did I do on this meta discussion? The user proposed gaining/losing rep for comment votes as a way to cut down on off-topic comments. I posted a comment saying "no, that would probably make things worse," and as I was considering making that an answer, the OP became angry at me for not providing a better solution. I tried to be polite and constructive, but I'd like to know how you guys think my response was.
 
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@NobodyNada Commented, I think you were pretty good there
 
@TinyGiant Thanks! I'll write that answer now :)
 
@AndrewL. katakana is somewhat unlikely in native Japanese -- better look for hiragana particles like は に で へ と or the possessive marker の
 
user4639281
Lost Lots in the unclosed requests queue with 3 or 4 votes if anyone wanted to run through and nock them off the list (as long as it is appropriate, please review to the best of your ability)
 
4:34 AM
kana are derived from kanji (Chinese hanzi) so it's not unfathomable to see them in Chinese text, but they are prevalent in Japanese, basically every well-formed sentence will have them
 
user4639281
Did not actually get lost in the review queue.
 
@tripleee Japanese seems quite interesting, do the kanji have same exact meaning as their Chinese equivalents?
As someone of Chinese descent, would it be easier for me to learn Japanese do you think?
 
@AndrewL. the languages are completely unrelated, but being able to read kanji is already a major advantage over those of us who cannot. If you are asking "easier than for a European" I would thus say yes, but if you mean objectively easy, I think no
I don't speak Japanese, I'm just a writing system geek
@AndrewL. mainly no, it's more like loan words - sometimes they have the same meaning, but often not (compare the etymology of many English words - a lot of them have a different meaning in English than in the language they were originally loaned from)
 
Ahh, I'm a language sort-of geek :), I find it quite fascinating. Thanks for the info!
I'm off to bed, have to wake up earlier tomorrow. Night all o/
 
@AndrewL. sleep well
 
4:48 AM
vgm all
 
@TinyGiant How's this?
 
user4639281
@NobodyNada good 'nuff
 
user4639281
@ColdFire Arg thats a hard one because it is soooo borderline
 
Thanks! I really appreciate the feedback.
 
4:55 AM
@TinyGiant yeah that is why i am wondering whether to flag or not
 
user4639281
one sec
 
I'm going to sleep now. Goodnight!
 
user4639281
gn
 
gn
 
user4639281
Technically, it is an attempted answer in that it suggests to use GSON to parse JSON
 
user4639281
4:59 AM
It isn't VLQ because it doesn't technically have any severe content or formatting problems.
 
user4639281
It has a link in it, but is not link-only
 
@Cold Fire Sorry dear but I don't have enough points to add comment directly. — LUshPUsh 1 min ago
@TinyGiant
 
user4639281
It's just a low quality answer, downvote and move on
 
user4639281
Just because an answer can exist in the form of a comment, does not mean that it cannot also be an answer
 
user4639281
That new one, that is definitely not an answer
 
5:01 AM
but the point is it doesnt answer the question
 
user4639281
It doesn't have to answer the question
 
wait a answer doesnt have to answer the question?
what
 
user4639281
It just has to be able to be seen as an attempt to answer a question conceivably asked on stack overflow outside of the context of the question
 
well it is not within the scope of question
 
user4639281
It doesn't have to be within the scope of the question
 
user4639281
5:04 AM
Flags should not be used to indicate technical inaccuracies, or an altogether wrong answer
 
@ColdFire the answer is NAA but the question (which is what you link to) seems acceptable?
 
well then downvote and move on in this case
 
user4639281
If it is a bad answer, it is still an answer, so it cannot be not an answer
 
@tripleee yeah i was referring to the answer and not the question
question is fine
 
@ColdFire it's gone now
 
5:05 AM
@TinyGiant Im learning from your word sensei
 
user4639281
Yes, downvote and move on, if you have deleted votes and feel like voting to delete it, then vote to delete it
 
there is a "share" link underneath each answer which links back there
 
user4639281
@Enzokie I just regurgitate meta
 
it's a bit cumbersome but helps disambiguate for discussion here
 
user4639281
^^ That
 
user4639281
5:06 AM
@tripleee the one that is left is the one we were talking about
 
user4639281
the one that was just deleted was posted after the discussion began
 
@tripleee oops didnt know that exist
 
@TinyGiant brilliant example (-8
 
user4639281
:P
 
Is there any meta post related to Edit race?
 
user4639281
5:09 AM
That question seems like it could be too broad, I don't know enough about it to vote though
 
@Cold Fire Ok. Thanks for your suggestion. I'll take care next time of these things. :) — LUshPUsh 1 min ago
 
user4639281
@Enzokie What do you mean by edit race?
 
well that user understood what i was trying to explain him
so cheers
 
user4639281
@ColdFire Language barrier, move on, your comment is technically incorrect anyway
 
@ColdFire a lot of questions are like "how do I use an elephant to put on my skates" and the only reasonable answer is "don't use an elephant for that"
 
5:10 AM
@tripleee haha ok
 
I tried to edit a certain question but a certain guy submits the edit first, its kinda disappointing that my edit might be thrown in the garbage.
 
user4639281
^^^ That
 
@TinyGiant :( i think my comment was right
 
@Enzokie there is a number of questions and proposals related to that, yes
hang on
 
user4639281
@ColdFire Technically they don't need to do anything more than they did, if they want to avoid downvotes then they should do more, but they don't have to
 
user4639281
5:12 AM
@Enzokie Plenty of questions on the topic
 
"edit conflict" seems to be the terminology in most of the relevant questions meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/275398/…
 
@TinyGiant well suggesting someone to write good answers isnt bad is it?
 
user4639281
No, but telling them that they have to is factually incorrect
 
@tripleee thanks :)
 
user4639281
Sorry, nevermind me
 
5:13 AM
i said try to and not compulsary
 
@Enzokie hee hee, didn't even notice it was my own meta post, just grabbed one which seemed relevant out of search results (-:
 
:3
 
user4639281
I thought you said have to, you didn't
 
user4639281
Waffles
 
cheers \o/
tuna might like it
@Enzokie :3
 
5:15 AM
imagines waffles with tuna
 
lol
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
The original trainwrecker, if anyone wanted to see it.
 
user4639281
That's the first one I used to use way back before I wrote the trainwreck script
 
5:18 AM
haha
 
user4639281
It was originally used to signify a post or situation that was just so horribly screwed there was no chance of saving it. It was then also used to... wreck chat trains
 
user4639281
Back when we were all 3 years old and making chat trains and stuff all the time
 
Back when we were all 3 years old and making chat trains and stuff all the time
 
lol
 
user4639281
lol
 
5:28 AM
lol
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
Like that
 
i see it is on hold
 
oh lol,
 
user4639281
5:31 AM
That question is two broads
 
I dont get the On-hold reason though
 
user4639281
Technically it isn't about code that doesn't work, it is asking why, in the broad scope of the language of java, would some code (any code, no example provided) possibly run slower on a server than on a local machine
 
user4639281
So the close reason is incorrect, but it is still way too broad to be on-topic
 
kk sensei :)
 
user4639281
:P
 
user4639281
5:36 AM
In here we have a policy to not reopen incorrectly closed but still off-topic questions with the intent to reclose them for a different reason unless it was closed as a duplicate when it is really off-topic, as duplicate closure prevents question deletion by the roomba script.
 
i have a case
 
user4639281
of beer?
 
a user answered the question
although it solved the OP issue
it is not recommended
i posted the recommended approach
 
user4639281
reference?
 
user4639281
5:38 AM
Waffles
 
@TinyGiant let me give the time to edit pls
ok he edited it
than its fine
issue solved \o/
waffles
 
user4639281
If an answer provides an approach that is not recommended, leave a comment explaining why, or post an answer and explain why the other answer is not recommended while yours solves the problem in a manner which is recommended
 
user4639281
The comments on that answer are mostly toxic
 
ohh i see
well comments i dont know why are toxic
 
user4639281
The whole "you're just googling stuff", "you post so many bad answers", and such are toxic and unnecessary
 
5:44 AM
what if toxic is true
 
user4639281
It still has nothing to do with the content and is about the person posting it, which is off-topic
 
btw i posted the answer first as a comment
so his was after mine
@RathinaSabapathiM add super on in your activity class — Cold Fire 20 mins ago
 
user4639281
6:01 AM
@Jon skeet that answer was at 40 upvotes before I linked it here when it had been visible for 1655 days, averaging an upvote every 41.375 days. Since then it has gotten 58 upvotes and has been visible for an additional 319 days, averaging an upvote every 5.5 days. It also currently has 303 linked questions. Basically it has grossed almost 1.5 times as many votes in the past year as it did in the previous 4.5 years on the site. A bit of useless trivia there, but I felt like sharing it. — Tiny Giant 4 mins ago
 
user4639281
If anyone is interested in some useless trivia
 
, stackoverflow.com/questions/39238099 , stackoverflow.com/questions/39236363 ... those guys are the closers in c# . Not people that allegedly say they are the FrontLine of defense on Page 1 (while only having 1 successful close vote in 2 days)
 
user4639281
@Drew don't get the reference
 
I speak in riddles with vague unspoken references to recent meta postings
 
user4639281
That's what I thought but wasn't sure
 
user4639281
6:13 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ remember this? Good ol' meta drama
 
user4639281
6:37 AM
 
yay i got 5k
rep
so much for getting and it is gonna get reverted soon :(
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
Documentation is hilarious in that regard
 
yeah docs rep system sucks i guess
 
:32577391 k
 
6:55 AM
Morning
 
Morning
 
user4639281
Morning
 
Morning
 
1 hour ago, by Tiny Giant
 
occasionally I come across questions which are off topic to stackoverflow as per site's rule or user's opinion...neverthless the question and answers are very very useful, have many starts and upvotes, and many answers, really guiding developers what to do and for the same reason stackoverflow says "locked for further further answers etc as off topic, but preserved for *historic* reasons, dont use this question as ref to ask similar questions"...so its like this questions is definitely useful but unfortunately its not good place here to ask this question...so we are screwing it...but still
 
6:59 AM
@Mahesha999 They're locked to be preserved.
The ones that aren't locked get deleted because they're off-topic content.
And no, lots of upvotes doesn't necessarily mean the post is of high quality.
 

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