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2:19 AM
Morning
 
Morning
 
@Mach The question I raised the mod flag yesterday to remove the bounty has been done.
 
2:41 AM
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Typo or Cannot Reproduce LIMIT #,# syntax is not supported - akkil - 2016-08-04 04:47:52Z
^ @Tunaki there's a bug in the cv-pls US. I was the last voter on the question, and just curiously check marked the cv-pls option, and it still got reported though it was closed when I cast my vote
I've changed the tag to now so that it does not get caught by the US RO's use to move cv-pls'es
 
3:11 AM
@AshishAhujaツ Cool
 
3:24 AM
LOA: stackoverflow.com/questions/7497058/… ? So NAA or is it VLQ?
 
@AndrewL. I'd CV the question. Based on the comments, sounds like a typo. Accepted answer was probably because it was an attempt. Otherwise I'd NAA the answer (it's too old for VLQ)
 
Ahh, Ok. I agree the question is off-topic, but the answer is NAA. CVing
 
 
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@dorukayhan link is broken, correct is stackoverflow.com/review/triage/13374760
but the link is just to the review of that question
 
> Url in title, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in username, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
----------
Title - Position 13-27: onlinetraining
Title - Position 13-30: onlinetraining.co
Title - Position 1-31: http://suryaonlinetraining.com
Body - Position 13-30: onlinetraining.co
Username - Position 13-27: onlinetraining
 
should the web site itself be blacklisted, too?
 
@Magisch I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Magisch passed a audit!
@Magisch You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 10 minutes and 48 seconds, averaging to a review every 16 seconds.
 
6:46 AM
Not even 9 am yet and I'm already done with 40 CV reviews, 20 triage, 20 first posts, 40 LQPs
 
And then a serious pops up...
 
Ah well
 
But it's srs! :P
 
4,292 Reviews
kill me now
And I'm still 2 months away from being here for a year :p
 
7:07 AM
Just in: Magisch is a bot.
Oh, the node.js question got locked!
 
@Cerbrus I can't really believe I haven't even been here a year
o_O
I got to 3k like six months ago
 
7:20 AM
Also, for some reason, that's tagged with
 
morning
 
morning all
 
user3956566
late afternoon all
 
hey yvette
you changed your gender again i guess
 
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@ColdFire yep back to being 100% woman, but have the man of my dreams as my avatar, that way I enjoy looking at my own avatar. I sometimes just open my profile to look at myself ;)
 
7:35 AM
@ColdFire You're an oxymoron. Fire (rapid oxidization) is a strictly exothermic reaction :D
 
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@Magisch better to be an oxymoron than a moron ;)
 
@Yvette haha
 
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@ColdFire you get my humour. I like you ;)
 
@Magisch well i am contradiction
@Yvette :)
 
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@ColdFire can I ask you to use your votes in here chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/120759/godaddy-burnination for a day or two? ...
 
7:44 AM
sure
but i am confused about the burn thing
what about questions that are good?
 
user3956566
remove the godaddy tag
 
are you sure that is the right thing?
 
user3956566
yes
 
ok then
 
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8:01 AM
@SotiriosDelimanolis can we ask you for a day in here for closing and deleting votes chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/120759/godaddy-burnination? Please ;)
 
Morning guys \o
 
@kayess morning
 
@Oldskool hiya, howdy mister
 
8:18 AM
Plop!
Boy the Watch is busy
 
8:30 AM
Aloha
@Yam meh maybe I don't like the close reason... but seems broad.. unclear... will not reopen..
 
> it's no change, i want to die!
And comment:
> Might I suggest asking in [suicide.se]
 
@Gothdo there also was another comment:
> You really want me to die? :) Right? ;)
 
8:45 AM
lol
@AshishAhujaツ no plop only blob
 
@ColdFire you say no to plop? @Kyll will @kyll you :p
 
@Gothdo Yeah we caught the die comment...
 
New comment:
> I will suggest using one of plenty available jQuery plugins for this.
suicide.jquery.js?
 
@AshishAhujaツ yeah no plopping only blobing
crap i missed that comment
anybody can show me
 
@ColdFire if it's deleted, only mods can see them
 
8:51 AM
@AshishAhujaツ :(
 
Plop!
 
@AshishAhujaツ are you really sure about that : )
 
@Rizier123 Plop!
@PetterFriberg yup. Normal users can't see them, and I'm sure mods can
 
@PetterFriberg Well, if someone saved a copy of that comment before it was deleted, they can see it too.
 
@AshishAhujaツ well normal user can use comments api, categorize them and store to db...
 
8:53 AM
@PetterFriberg but isn't the SE api live?
 
heeh, sure, yeah you need to scan it before it gets deleted
 
that's different then..... I meant after the comment was deleted :|
unless you store it somewhere, which no one normally does
 
why the godaddy batches have repeated questions
 
@ColdFire not all. Only few. That is because 1 batch contains q's with more than 3 cv's, while one contains all. Thus the overlap
 
@AshishAhujaツ : )
 
9:01 AM
@ColdFire repeated where? can you show an example?
oh I see, never mind
 
@tripleee see the burnination room. I create batches over there
 
the last batch have same questions as previous batch, the difference is that in last batch cv count>2
 
i see many duplicated question
so it is somewhat annoying to click flag and see ohh i have already voted on it
 
@ColdFire see the burnination room. I've made the Batch 43 message clearere
 
i am done with batch 43 @AshishAhujaツ
 
9:04 AM
ok. I'll update
 
People grossly misusing database tables
:(
sad panda is sad
 
i ran out of close votes
 
:32356056 commented, probably plagiarised A
 
@ColdFire well done :)
 
someone in our company was using the "internal_ims_message" table to run an elaborate remote printing system
And I only found out after I deployed some refractorings for the new IM system I'm supposed to make
 
9:14 AM
So does this earlier SD report worths a mod flag or just walk away?
 
@kayess I flagged based on your comment
 
@tripleee Alright
Same OP added an other A which is literally a Q...
 
@kayess Always modflag plagiarism
@kayess Make sure to use the keyword "plagiarism" too in the modflag, they filter for those. Link to source and specifiy which part of source its copied from.
 
@Magisch okie
 
Plag answers will get deleted and if its a pattern the user will get suspended
 
9:21 AM
SD reported the OP as blacklisted as far I remember
 
9:44 AM
is metasmoke dead?
 
@tripleee yup
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 20 mins ago, by Ashish Ahuja ツ
yup. I think MS is down @zaq
 
@tripleee you like drama? ;)
 
@rene hummm, I guess?
 
OK, noted :D
 
looking forward to the second part of the big BBC production of Henry VI
the third part will have Benedict Cumberbatch so that's why my daughters are watching
if you are asking because of the meta post yesterday, maybe there was a bit too much drama there
thinking perhaps I could have explained myself better, but still ...
I'm a bit baffled. If you don't want to do more about spam that's fine, but you seem to be saying that those who want to do something more than just the routine filtering should not. That's frankly irresponsible. — tripleee 4 hours ago
 
9:57 AM
wafflez
 
one box?
 
@AshishAhujaツ yeah, wrong link (still not great)
@ColdFire when you post only a link, the chat interface will display it in a box
the workaround is to post some text in addition to the link
it's in the room's FAQ, or at least used to be
 
haha ok
 
Did your daughters learn anything about Henry VI or did they just watch for Cumberbatch only to find out he was featured later on?
@tripleee it still is
 
@rene the dastardly peasants left after half an hour
 
10:01 AM
@tripleee no, I wasn't referring to anything particularly. You called metasmoke dead, which was what triggered my remark. Nothing to worry about
 
ah, sorry, Unix person ... we surround ourselves with zombies and kill and nukes and what not
 
@ColdFire rule 10, 11 and 12 found in the FAQ
 
@rene i see
 
10:22 AM
BTW did anyone saw @KevinGuan lately? Or did they finally found a way block him on teh Great firewall...
 
@kayess "Last seen July 28" maybe he was blocked by the firewall...
 
That nasty boy was active on github lately
 
@SmokeDetector didn't we nuke his account through the last report?
 
should we migrate that question?
 
@PetterFriberg too old to migrate, but close, definitely
curious text in the profile, random copy/paste? stackoverflow.com/users/6730226/cbrtindia
 
10:30 AM
@Adriaan no, account only blacklisted (any post will be reported), only mods can nuke it.
 
@PetterFriberg alright, thanks for the info.
 
@tripleee maybe from here : ) http://www.ownzee.com/Cbrtindia
 
@PetterFriberg but, if it is 6 spam flag nuked, the account is IP blocked
 
@AshishAhujaツ I do not think so, user only loose 100 rep and gets very close to question/answer ban
 
@PetterFriberg I guess they are actually advertising psychological counseling through spam then (!)
 
10:32 AM
@tripleee I already thought that to be a suspicious amount of text for a spammer
 
@PetterFriberg lemme find a reference.. I'm pretty sure they do get banned
 
why yes, I would like to have my brain picked by a fraud
 
@tripleee call 'em with "I'm so stressed by al the spam on SO! Please help!"
 
@AshishAhujaツ I think ip ban is issued only manually
 
10:39 AM
meeh Brad Larson answer does not really seem to talk about some auto mechanism... more about user blocking (hence not ip blocking)
"Post restrictions generally only apply to new accounts or those below a certain low reputation threshold"
I would guess the IP banning is handled not on what we flag as spam, but more incoming traffic, what type of traffic it is etc.
 
hmm.. yeah. couldn't really find something on auto-IP blocks except the above line I posted
 
@Petter it's more complicated than can or will be explained :)
 
Yeah sure, I only intend that what we flag as spam, probably has nothing (or very little) to do with it...
and probably it would not be good if it had effect, a crazy bugger could block a whole university from accessing SO by sending some spam posts from its network.
 
Indeed :)
Or 6 malicious 15 rep users could go around and spam flag stuff to death (although - they'd be dealt with very quickly...)
 
more drama in the spam discussion on meta, for those of you who want to follow along ...
I should probably abstain from commenting any further at this point
 
10:55 AM
@tripleee wow many words
 
@JonClements Here's a thought experiment: What if 5-10 coordinated users decided they didn't like someone on SO, and then went and downvoted 2 questions of theirs each, per day.
 
It'd get noticed
 
@JonClements The Script doesn't pick this up, and coordinating voting is explicitly not disallowed. Yet, depending on how quickly the QBan hones in, you could get a new user Q banned in 2-3 days, without much recourse
 
seems easy to catch the user reports it SE, SE checks who it is... voting ring ecc.
 
I hope they'd target Jon Skeet
 
10:59 AM
lol
 
but we have had discussion on comments (since we nuke comments) now.
 
I mean, just because of how long it would take for them to make a dent:D
Oh wait, they can't make a dent
you need 100+ downvotes a day just to keep him still
 
Hence we are 3-4 users flagging offensive comments... if we where wrong?
 
@JonClements Would you view handing out QBans in a coordinated fashion to users they don't feel are contributing as abuse? I would probably, but I'm not sure the system would.
 
@Magisch Don't forget that mods also have other tools that trigger before the mass voting thingy so we can manually investigate any trends... and we can always have votes invalidated...
 
11:01 AM
@Magisch what exactly do you mean by "system"?
I'm sure any human seeing it will see it as abuse
it's another question whether automatic safeguards catch it
"handing out QBans" is in no way OK unless you're a mod
 
flip that
getting Q's closed factors into Q bans
So someone could level that accusation at us
 
yes, but that's an implication, not a goal
> handing out QBans in a coordinated fashion to users they don't feel are contributing
the enormous difference is assessing posts vs assessing users:)
and the former can be done much more objectively too
 
rule 17
 
Gotta go, see you later. Don't get dizzy running around in circles:P
 
11:32 AM
NAA? link
 
@Magisch no, it does attempt to answer the question
 
@Magisch Link only
 
@Magisch Nope
sigh 6 upvotes for an unclear two-liner. Maybe I should answer some PHP questions too. I don't know any PHP but as far as I can see it does not seem to be required...
 
@Magisch for me no, but a good comment to include some code could be nice..
 
11:42 AM
Morning
 
Plop Nathan!
 
@NathanOliver hi
 
Aloha
 
my answer on that meta is @ 99 o_O
 
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@tripleee fyi re meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/332633/… SE is 'considering' integrating SD with anti spam measures and there's a lot of behind the scenes work and thought being done about spam. Also discussion in chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/11540/charcoal-hq of course.
 
11:58 AM
@Cerbrus You beat me to that meta answer
 

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