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12:48 AM
@QPaysTaxes I win every time.
All I know is I don't have to guess about what a class is doing.
I know that this class is being used as a visitor, checking if a type pattern has tried to sneak in some generic or parameterized type pattern matching stuff anywhere.
 
heh, I just noticed that I have positive score in
bit surprising
 
1:05 AM
return_type function_name(param1_type) is valid C++ syntax, because it is valid C syntax for declaring a function of one parameter. Go ask C why it's legal to not give that parameter a name.
A hundred upvotes in java is what, three NPE dups, if you can get the other noobs to upvote before somebody mjolnir's them?
 
well technically you can get upvotes post-mjöllnir, but I agree it's much less likely
 
@QPaysTaxes Tell me which posts and I will downvote and delete them :P
 
@Rizier123 if you have too many delvotes I have a few dozens of blatantly off-topic closed posts in :P
well, 4 have one of my delvotes each
 
@AndrasDeak Well you would have to guide me through the tag.
 
1:19 AM
I know the feeling. A couple answers a half decade ago when I was doing batch programming for IT, and my top tags are [batch-file] and [windows]. Try searching for a C++ job when that's what people see in your SO account.
 
Come to think of it... Is it frowned upon if I delv-pls old closed blatantly off-topic questions in [guide]? CC @rene @NathanOliver
I can vote on 5 of those each day, one more vote by someone else makes 2 which makes them show up in the 10k tools
 
What makes you think this isn't an alias?
What makes you think I'm not job hunting under an alias? Ha!
 
Sigsegv Fraud
 
I would argue that SO does not perfectly reflect one's skillset. For example, being skilled at FGITW is not nearly as widely sought in the marketplace as its usefulness here might lead one to believe.
You can do well on SO without being quick on the draw, but only by finding those rare gem questions that haven't already been answered. That requires patience, and reloading the page about 1200 times per day.
 
I've been unlucky on those gems. I've woken up in the morning and gone back 2-3 pages in only to see a post with 120 votes that I couldn't contribute to.
I'm still doing fine
 
1:31 AM
I find it terribly frustrating to type up an answer only to have somebody else post the same thing, so I try not to answer anything asked within the last couple hours. It makes smaller tags are much more satisfying to answer. The downside is that a good answer that takes an hour to type up may get four upvotes over its lifetime, if I'm really lucky.
 
I couldn't contribute to OR couldn't burn down with duplicate vote
that's far more likely now
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis I'm not sure answering in java can even compare. You can "do fine" in java because there are 627,893 users upvoting on that tag at any given time. You can afford to let gems go by and still reach 100k in five years.
 
<<< right here, proof
 
The downside is that you have to know Java.
Java didn't exist when I went through the American education system. For that matter, neither did the C++ STL.
 
cue you're old as hell :P
 
1:38 AM
It wasn't part of C++ in 1996 when I took classes in the language.
Programming languages weren't an option in my HS when I was there. They taught typing, as part of the business department, and that was the limit of computer classes. Everything I know is self-taught on on the job.
 
early '70s --> "What's C++?"
 
I'm in a java cs class because its a requirement, and it's hard to learn because lots of people don't get the idea of objects.
 
Be aware there wasn't much of an internet back then either. Just because two guys were fooling around with a language they wrote in their garage in Berkeley doesn't mean that the idea had spread beyond their local college / group of friends.
Ideas used to have a propagation time.
 
Sure it did, they shared it on twitter with C#
I mean #C
 
@AndrasDeak Actually, they posted it to StackOverflow, but the discussion was promptly closed as off-topic and downvoted, so nobody found out about it for several more years.
Anyways, yes, I'm old as dirt. I'd had plans by now to be the CEO of a multi-billion dollar startup, but I didn't anticipate the side-effects of HumanChildFactory::Create(), especially the amount of latency it introduces into a career. I'd make the same decision if I had to do it over again.
 
1:58 AM
no need to call the destructor then
 
Which is good, because the destructor on a Human object raises an IllegalActOfViolenceException.
 
you need to be in the sudoers file in order to do that
 
2:24 AM
oh I thought we were talking politics
 
@QPaysTaxes I assume you mean you haven't seen any IllegalActOfViolenceException caught by the LawEnforcement class. That class operates by lazy evaluation, and most of the exceptions go to the default handler, which is an older style code: ON ERROR RESUME NEXT
And I suddenly shudder at the implication that the universe is written in Visual Basic.
 
 
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3:37 AM
Well, this is one I've never seen before: "<Barely coherent requirement>. thinks!" Gratitude not only misplaced but misspelled, too!
Link or it didn't happen: stackoverflow.com/q/38277881/603977
 
3:52 AM
C++ isn't to blame. The language doesn't have any bias. It just hands you all manner of sharp and blunt instruments, and lets you determine which to drop on your feet.
 
4:48 AM
Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
Always works in tech support.
 
 
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user3956566
6:02 AM
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Q: Educating people to flag spam and not vote to close

YvetteIt is not uncommon to see people voting to close spam. Spam should be flagged as spam and then it will be deleted when there are sufficient spam flags on the post. This is the latest example http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38278819/high-dh-simply-means-rapid-and-better-absorption Users get...

 
user3956566
@rene ^^
 
@Yvette I guess you will give us all a lesson over hangouts :P
 
user3956566
@Rizier123 yes lololol
 
user3956566
please let me know if we strike
 
user3956566
I suggest you read the faq for what's on topic and you'll see where you are going wrong. Also using profanity and insults in your comments is not ingratiating you to the community.I suggest you adjust your attitude and write on topic posts if you don't want to receive downvotes. — Yvette 9 secs ago
 
6:31 AM
Hi all :)
 
6:54 AM
@Yvette I see you have a fan.
 
user3956566
7:17 AM
@RyanBemrose huh? was there a reply comment? I didn't see it O>O :D
 
user3956566
@RyanBemrose hey gave you a lengthy comment on your meta comment on my meta post, --->it's like a pointer, pointing to a pointer of a reference at the address of
 
user3956566
I vote to close @RyanBemrose as being under-educated for our room throws @Kyll at ryan meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/327636/…
 
user3956566
I've seriously become a one woman party here today. Talking to myself, replying to myself and making jokes that only I laugh at lolol
 
I'll accept the undereducated label, but I was also trying to provoke a bit more discussion as to why you should flag instead of CV. If the goal is to educate people, don't take for granted that they all inherently know the reasons for one and not the other.
 
user3956566
@RyanBemrose hey I'm just teasing you man :D and any excuse to throw the spearrel :D
 
7:29 AM
AFAICT: 1) spam votes are better, so even if you CV, also flag.
2) A CV sends the post into the CVQ
3) Don't "waste" your CVs
 
user3956566
also you can edit the Q and put in those reasons if you think they will hep or post an answer
 
user3956566
afaict ??
 
No worries. I'm not bothered. Ignorance is curable. It's willful ignorance I can't abide.
 
user3956566
and there is a higher rep cap for cv and then del v
 
"as far as I can tell"
 
user3956566
7:31 AM
there is also the rep cap and then to delete a q via close votes then requires delete votes
 
Anyway, the Q make a good case to flag spam correctly, but I didn't feel like the case was made to not also CV. So I left the comment hoping to get replies that made the case. Apologies if I came across as argumentative.
 
user3956566
@RyanBemrose ok edited Q
 
user3956566
@RyanBemrose no you came across buffalo worthy tosses buffalo at Ryan
 
user3956566
@RyanBemrose I'm in a playful mood :D
 
7:37 AM
:D
 
user3956566
where's @Tunaki @Kyll @AndrasDeak @theB and @QPaysTaxes we need some violence flowing here
 
With the edit it's much better.
Now I can delete my comment and make you and Rizier look like you're replying to thin air. Bwahahaha
 
@RyanBemrose - Lol. I was just replying to your comment :P
 
user3956566
evil plans afoot - I like it
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind can you undelete his deleted comment and put a big red mod arrow beside it saying, "undeleted to foil evil plans"?
 
7:40 AM
@Yvette - I can.. But I probably won't :)
 
user3956566
hm you need to sort out your priorities as a mod, if you're not into shame and blame I can't support you in the next election ignores fact that he won't be in next election
 
Too late. My evil plan is in motion. Now nobody can see it! (unless they have 10k or better)
 
And that makes your comments "obsolete"
 
user3956566
@RyanBemrose wrong!! 10k and over cannot see your deleted comments, in fact I don't know if anyone can!!! P>P da da da daaaaaaaaaaaaa music as the plot thickens
 
@RyanBemrose - I think, it is better to keep that comment..
 
7:42 AM
The real victim here was the person who upvoted my doomed comment. Now that vote is forever lost to time.
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind I'm flagging that comment deletion as capricious
 
"unpredictable"?
 
user3956566
@RyanBemrose yes that is the true vicitim
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind yes and I added your comment to my post. thank you good comment
 
@Yvette - You are welcome :)
 
user3956566
7:49 AM
ok I'm going to watch some scary tv while I'm alone in the house at night :)
 
Oh. I see. lol
Good luck with that
 
I'm going to go spend a few hours studying the inside of my eyelids. Good night all.
 
Night
@Yvette I find reading creepypastas way cooler.
Most scary TV isn't scary anymore.
 
8:16 AM
@AndrasDeak if they are not dupe targets I don't see a problem with it? Are you burninating?
@Yvette yes, I've seen your onebox, promoting your own meta-question. I left a comment on the post.
 
9:09 AM
^ N
 
9:27 AM
Plop!
@Yvette Hahaha
Has anyone been having troubles loading content from gravatar.com or cdn-chat.sstatic.net lately?
 
nope
 
Might be due to HTTPS Everywhere and conflicting protocols
Mh nope
 
@Kyll Not lately, but they like playing with our temper.
 
Mh... Not HTTPS Everywhere, not uBlock Origin... Will have to test with a clean profile
 
Hi, does anybody else notice that SO chat is served over HTTP + HTTPS traffic?
It's gravatar or some other ID providers?
I see only https on SO
Chat.SE doesn't show the same behaviour, so it's only chat.SO
Ah, no - it's not gravatar. it's CDN. cdn.sstatic.net is served over HTTP
 
9:43 AM
@TimCastelijns I'll see about making something like that then
@S.R.I Yeah, SO is not fully HTTPS yet
 
Plop!
 
\o
 
@Kyll Okay, I hadn't noticed this before. So, it was a surprise to me that I saw it at all, after I installed HTTPS Everywhere
 
@S.R.I Hey, with HTTPS Everywhere, does auto-loading of new questions work using the new nav?
Doesn't work on my FF Dev Edition (49.02a) on Linux Mint
 
9:59 AM
@Kyll Nope, but then I don't really need it. I think uBlock Origin blocks autoloading
 
@S.R.I No it doesn't, I use it without HTTPS Everywhere and it works like a charm
 
Who is still sleeping?
 
Checking history
 
@Ferrybig raises hand
 
Uh, seems like a legit post
 
10:06 AM
@Kyll No, I disabled HTTPS Everywhere and it still doesn't autoload new posts
 
@S.R.I Really? That's weird. Does the block count on uBlock goes up when you sit still on the page?
 
Nothing. shrug
Perhaps, I am not in the beta at all
 
10:26 AM
@S.R.I Ah, gotta try it then =p
 
user3956566
@rene oh so sorry it was self promotion, you know how much I need those SO meta rep points! gobble gobble the votes and rep. I posted it, as you've commented here about people voting to close spam and I thought you would be interested.
 
@Kyll I mean that I actually opted in, but in there in my settings page, it still says I'm waiting in the beta queue.
 
Ah, okay then
 
user3956566
@Kyll I'm wondering if we are still friends? ;)
 
Were we ever? :p
 
user3956566
10:30 AM
And the other thing other people one box and don't get sarcastic remarks from you @rene, but you're obviously in a mood, so feel free to take it out on me with a disparaging remark about my motives. Most of the posts I like in here are downvoted these days btw. I only one box stuff that relevant to the room.
 
user3956566
@Kyll don't think so any more
 
:p
 
@Yvette throws Haast's eagle at Yvette
 
user3956566
Oh you'll find a pending request to delete the socvr team, sorry that was my mistake, I thought I needed to do that to delete it from my profile, I have now left the team and won't answer to any more pings here. It's too much aggravation and not just for me.
 
@rene thanks. Yes, I've been putting off [guide] for months now, and I now have delvotes. Considering that the majority of the tag is blatant crap, it would be straightforward for me to seed a delvote, have someone vote too, then from 2 votes it's likely to get deleted sooner or later
I just don't want to abuse the system, especially that I'd probably be delv-pls-ing here in batches of 4 or 5
 
10:45 AM
@Yvette well, that delete functionality had to be tested once. And I'm not in any mood, sorry if it came across like that.
 
11:19 AM
6 messages moved to Trash can
sorry, rewriting history a bit ...
@AndrasDeak we keep an eye on it and will let you know if we feel it is too much. Don't post 5 in a row I would say ...
 
Sam
morning
 
morning
 
Sam
Huh, the "pending request" tab is broken on our SO team page
 
@rene I was thinking of a single message along the lines of "[delv-pls] clean up [guide]: [1] [2] [3] [4]"
I'm afraid one at a time wouldn't actually make a difference
 
@AndrasDeak that sounds OK
 
11:29 AM
Which one? You replied to "one at a time":D
(sorry, just want to avoid ambiguity)
 
^-- please nuke this spam
 
is it?
it's definitely VLQ, unsure about spam
somebody with smokey privileges should check what tripped the regex
 
links to an exe - I'll let you test if malware or not ;)
 
AAAND I can't spamflag now
waiting eagerly for that revoke-flag feature to kick in
 
@AndrasDeak that one (and only that one) sounds OK ... it obviously is not my best day for communitcating with this room ... I'll leave you all in the hands of Sam
 
11:34 AM
@rene oh, it's OK, just wanted to be crystal clear on this, as it's important:)
thanks for the feedback
 
11:44 AM
@Rizier123 let me know if you were partly serious about available delvotes, especially if you usually don't spend all of them each day
 
@theB I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
theB passed a audit!
 
12:10 PM
@SmokeDetector that one is still around!
 
@AndrasDeak and now that you said something, it and my snarky comment are gone
 
cool:)
 
Sam
Looks like it's going to be one of those quiet weekends again...
 
WE COULD ALL START YELLING! :D
 
what's will all the lives of people?!
 
Sam
12:16 PM
Huh, what'd you say?
 
@theB You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 30 minutes and 13 seconds, averaging to a review every 45 seconds.
 
Sam
@Clo status
 
SOCVR Chatbot, running at Sam's Backup Server, version d2070ce5 on master, running for 5 days, 17 hours, 53 minutes, and 7 seconds (tracking latency 2264ms).
 
Sam
Almost a week \o/
 
Woot! Also she is really quick this morning. I got that ding < 5 seconds after my last review.
 
Sam
12:23 PM
> tracking latency 2264ms
Yeah
The tracking's still far from perfect though.
Which reminds me
@gunr What's the status on #163?
 
12:55 PM
Uuh, looks legit..?
Checking for previous occurrences
 
Does the answer even need the link?
 
No it doesn't
Also, ew formatting
Only occurrence on Metasmoke...
Editing
Done.
 
You left the link in place?
Or not
 
mh, true, the "demo" is literally the same code
Anyone to explain Inversion of Control in simple wordz?
Also commented
 
@Kyll Instead of calling a library function, the library calls you. (Assuming I'm reading the wikipedia page correctly.)
 
1:03 PM
Mh yeah, I figured so. Thanks a lot :D
 
:D
 
 
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2:16 PM
Plop!
 
P\op Ashish
 
back-plop
 
POB? (cc @Nathan)
 
2:32 PM
> Not that I think it's a valuable answer, but what is the harm in plagiarizing the answer? It's a valid answer, even if they didn't write it themselves.
Really??
Someone just left that on one of my old metas
 
Just ignore it x)
 
@Kyll I already replied to the user to inform them about the plagiarism policy. Surprisingly, it is a 6k user
 
2:45 PM
@QPaysTaxes :D
@QPaysTaxes for your bot?
afk
 
Blaem the typo
 
3:02 PM
bacl
 
'that a thing?
 
@QPaysTaxes I meant back :D
Is queen dead?
@que alive
 
Sure thing buzzing around
 
3:30 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara sigh
 
Could someone give me a link to a highly used dupe-target?
 
@QPaysTaxes you know what you have to do. aws is a click away
 
@AlexanderO'Mara um.. no. I meant a question which has many duplicates. In other words a question in which many other question have been dup closed as
I think yeah. That will fit. thx
 
3:37 PM
@AshishAhujaツ Ohh...
 
@AshishAhujaツ - There's also stackoverflow.com/questions/4660142/…
 
got it.
I was just testing the SE api's /questions/{ids}/related which is supposed to give related questions, and it was just horrible. Some questions were related, but most were not even close
afk
 
4:25 PM
@Kyll I haven't used your "Watch" tab you designed for much time, but whenever I've used it, it has been quite accurate.
 
Sadly, it is xD
 
Should this be closed?
Looks like that to me also. It asks why it is not working but is not giving the code
 
@QPaysTaxes I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
As you can search for questions with a specfic tag using [tag], is it possible to search for question that do not have a specific tag?
 
-[tag]
 
4:39 PM
alright
@QPaysTaxes some user going around giving free upvotes
 
@QPaysTaxes Don't call out negatively to specific posts...
@QPaysTaxes .... unless it is moderation-related.
We don't moderate users
You have no idea what kind of flame war this would start
If we try to enforce our own rules over what should be done and what should not, rather than the rules of the community (like scope), we're no longer a coordinated group of reviewers but a rogue posse
Let people upvote whatever
Let them downvote whatever
 
Is there a search to exclude posts that have code?
 
@AshishAhujaツ No.
@Kyll Oooh, this seems like an interesting discussion. Mind if I poke?
 
And only show posts which are smaller or bigger that a length?
 
@AshishAhujaツ I don't think that's possible either.
You should use SEDE.
Yeah, that. @QPa one of us is redundant.
 
4:50 PM
Na. SEDE won't fit my requirement.
 
It's too far.
 
@QPaysTaxes I had a different purpose
 
@Ash is being mysterious.
 
@Tuna That reminds me, I gotta ping you a lot now.
@TIPS pokes TIPS
 
@TIPS No. I just wanted to get new posts to help make more filters for my bots. And also test the current filters accuracy rate
 
4:52 PM
@QPaysTaxes Come on, be nice! And don't get caught by the queen ;)
ffk
 
@QPaysTaxes Men problem? Yeah
MY SILICON?! p_p
What is your problem? Look at how cute it looks
 
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