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4:00 PM
@NathanOliver :D
It was community wiki, so it took a while for the dispute to be noticed. Like 750 revisions total.
 
The rollback auto flag didn't catch it or was that the reason we have it now?
 
@theB blame @Magisch : )
 
Flagged a question 46 seconds ago and it's already helpful! Fast
 
@PetterFriberg :D
 
4:17 PM
Oh what? @AlexanderO'Mara answered a HNQ
 
@ryanyuyu Yeah, I do that sometimes. That ones actually 2 in a row.
 
congrats
 
Thanks
It seems to be easier on other sites than SO.
 
Definitely. The size of SO makes that hard.
 
JAL
4:23 PM
Thanks @queen
 
@theB What the foo?
 
@JAL yep
 
JAL
ty
 
@PraveenKumar Found that gem while playing around on SEDE a while back.
 
4:26 PM
@theB Awesome... What's the query?
 
SELECT Post FROM Gems
 
@Tunaki LoL.
 
afk
 
@theB Thanks.
 
4:28 PM
np
 
Lmao @Rizier123
 
@Rizier123 just close without comment...
 
if trolling, never feed them, so they get bored
 
4:33 PM
When it says a question is on hold by a collection of people, it's because those were the people who flagged it right?
 
close voted, when you get >3K you can close vote (no more flagging)
 
Yeah
Getting there..
 
Only the close voters show up. Flaggers do not.
 
Slowly but surely. In the meantime I'm just going to flag
Ok.
What brand?
 
@AndrewL. Good - 'cos that will still put it in the close vote queue for others to review - so all's good
 
4:35 PM
@AndrewL. In SOCVR you create confusion when you talk about flags (since for us those are spam/abusive/naa/vlq)... so be very clear if you mean close vote flag...
 
Ahh. Gotcha. I better go to a different room
 
No, your welcome!
 
@AndrewL. you're in the right room if you want to help with community moderation :)
 
Thanks! I'm just trying to keep SO clean for the users who make this place a better one
 
@AndrewL. I was just saying this since I have seen it a couple of times <3k user asking if they should flag... and confusion starts)
 
4:36 PM
@QPaysTaxes Looks like it was reopened
 
What about Sam Jone
 
@AndrewL. Then you're definitely in the right room - and there's people here that have a vast amount of experience in doing so and can guide you making your flags count and be correct - you don't want those pesky mods declining them and all that :)
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Wrongish link?
 
@AndrewL. I got a tweet out of the blue asking for feedback... along with +50 other users
 
4:38 PM
Yeah. Trying to keep my declined flags number small. Currently 10% of my 400 flags
 
Yeah you need to watch out for pesky mods, always bring some scobby snacks with ya.
 
Hmm. Spammy peeps
10%? That's 4 flags (well 5)
 
I just realized that because floating point math is broken eventually I will get to 100% flag accept rate.
 
@QPaysTaxes it's on your profile page :) (only you/mods can see your declined flag total though)
 
Hahaha.
 
4:40 PM
@AndrewL. 4 out of 400 is 1% not 10%
 
Hmm.
Haha I'm dumb
That's what I thought originally
 
@AndrewL. Just to explain if you see the user name in blue you know it is a pesky mod and you need to throw scobby snacks at him.
 
@JonClements Those pesky, pesky mods.
 
Well you know what they say: Don't think, CLOSE ALL TEH QUESTIONZ
 
All of 'em
 
4:42 PM
oooh another one... scobby snaks don't work just throw Kyll
 
@NathanOliver No time to read; delete all the things!
 
@AndrewL. And you even got your flag numbers wrong - sheesh... can't you read your profile page! :)
 
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, May 28 at 2:51, by Shog9
"no time to read, delete everything"
 
Gold haha
 
4:43 PM
Woot. Approval by Shog
 
Wow - okay then... @MadaraUchiha you start with the top-half of the transcript - I'll start with the bottom - we'll meet half-way...
 
sigh The ridiculous requirements some questions have. "I need to iterate over every item, but I don't want to use a loop." WAT?
 
Haha. My professor once said: You need to create a procedure, without methods!
 
Why do you people speak about declined flags. Now I had to check mine, only to find out either me or Ed screwed up. Or I didn't explain my self correctly...
 
Did you forget to include the bribe?
 
4:46 PM
@AndrewL. I still don't know what is a procedure or a method... granted, I never got a course on CS
nor anything related
 
@NathanOliver Yes, I did, that might be it
 
Ehh. Those courses are kind of useless to me. They retaught me Java.
 
@NathanOliver In the end Ed did what I wanted him to do, so all is good now...
 
dba.stackexchange.com/questions/141471/… -- Should this be closed? If so, how? The OP decided it was an application error. There is no "close" option for such.
 
Is it normal to have lots of Aged Away flags?
 
4:47 PM
OK
@AndrewL. What is lots?
 
@AndrewL. that is just to make sure you forget that language forever ...
 
around 1/10 of my count
 
seems OK. I have 175 aged away.
 
My total flag count is 480, 17 in review, 5 declined, and 59 aged
 
@AndrewL. depends on tags and the sad thing is that its not your fault, but a problem of the close review que (CVR que)
 
4:49 PM
Ahh. Very true. I better get to 3k fast
 
Lots of close flags can/do/will age away due to the size of the queue.
 
basically there are to many and not enough people to review... so stuff age away
Flagging in low-traffic tag is hopeless, I know all my flags just aged away
 
bah, kids "219 aged away"
 
If you really want the Marshal badge, you need to do it before 3k.
 
I don't care about the badges ahaha.
We've got to clean up SO
 
4:50 PM
@RyanBemrose which ones is this?, the flag badge...
 
500 helpful flags
 
na just hang around here and flag post...
 
smokey inflates helpful flags... fast
 
That one.
 
4:52 PM
or check @Tuna's comments and flag away if you like badges
 
I joined 6 months ago.
Although I remember seeing the site back in 2009 or '10.
Why did someone upvote the question? It's off-topic and I'd close it.
 
NATO also helps with flags
 
@AndrewL. What question?
 
@Machavity You need 10K for that : )
 
@AndrewL. Trying to figure out how people vote will drive you crazy. Just shake your head and move on.
 
4:56 PM
Time to commute home cya
 
Cya
 
laterz
 
@PetterFriberg Details :P
Later
 
@Louis one of mine. I'm not sure if it's totally on topic.
 
What the? Why am I reviewing an answer in the CVQ?
 
4:56 PM
Back from January. It's a pretty badly written question
 
@RyanBemrose Link?
 
back
 
welcome back
 
@AndrewL. You want opinions?? (If you posted the link earlier, I missed it.)
 
4:58 PM
@RyanBemrose Maybe but that is just plane crazy.
 
Sure. The question is just about VS so it's probably off topic in the sense that it's regarding software: @Louis stackoverflow.com/questions/34553269/…
 
@RyanBemrose Oh wait it is a question: stackoverflow.com/questions/38094304/…
The link is actually in the question and points to the answer
 
with a picture as answer, nice
 
@NathanOliver Oh, I'm dumb. Clicked the wrong link. The perils of multitasking a half dozen tabs.
 
1 message moved to Trash
 
4:59 PM
@AndrewL. As I recall, how to setup tools is fine as long as they are software development tools.
 
@RyanBemrose I did the same thing so don't feel bad
 
Ahh, thanks @Louis
 
Should I link bad questions to get them closed because you already have it in the queue
 
@AndrewL. You should flag them for close.
 
5:04 PM
In some rooms, (python, IIRC), they say that if it's just a minute or so old, don't cv-pls. Let the Rest Of The World deal with it first, to conserve our votes.
We don't have such a rule, but for really new crud, it makes sense.
 
Yeah. You have limits on CVs?
 
@AndrewL. - I don't :P
 
@TheLostMind Saw that coming a mile away :P
 
Mods lol
 
@Machavity - lol..
 
5:10 PM
@AndrewL. Mere mortals get 50 CVs/day. If you go through all the queues, those can disappear fast.
 
Is there any way to migrate to say math.SE?
 
@AndrewL. You have to mod flag.
 
Mkay
A question about warping images and talks about math equations... on SO
 
@NathanOliver Or just close and leave a comment. Let OP migrate if it's important to them.
 
@RyanBemrose The cannot migrate. They would have to cross post.
 
5:11 PM
So Jon Skeet only has 50 CVs? He's no mere mortal.
 
@NathanOliver Sorry, x-post. That's what I meant.
 
OK. I would suggest that as long as there is no loss of information.
 
@AndrewL. The statement "mortals get 50 CVs" says nothing about non-mortals. ;)
 
@AndrewL. Jon Skeet doesn't need CVs. He uses his superior knowledge and intellect to convince you to close it yourself
 
Very true. He doesn't need them.
He can make 1 == 3. He can do anything
 
5:19 PM
@NathanOliver guess what time it is?
 
MEETING TIME
 
OH YEAH!!
 
mm... gunr isn't back from the meeting... apparently they trapped everyone before they could escape the meeting
 
WOOT
 
THE BEST TIME OF THE WEEK
 
5:20 PM
damn gunr!
 
I'll be afk for 3 hours now
 
At minimum.
 
correct
 
have fun. I know you look forward to Wednesday all week ;)
 
unfortunately
 
5:21 PM
I'm not sure if I would like to work with you, @gunr2171... are we paid just to attend meetings?
 
well, I actually just got a verbal job offer from another company, so now I have a decision to make
 
If your mind wanders during meetings, The Man can argue that you're on vacation.
 
@Braiam thankfully the meetings I attend are small compared to other coworkers
 
@gunr2171 what's the turnover rate?
 
5:26 PM
Speaking of meetings... on my way to one that was just "organized" today. A pointy-haired leader of another dev team has raised a CR to reinstate a feature that was deprecated 3 releases ago, at significant expense and with a full customer communication plan, as they just noticed its absence yesterday. I'll be taking a hockey stick...
 
Wow! Why do I bother with SO? Clearly the most <s>useful</s> exciting help is on reddit.
 
@Mogsdad please take your phone/webcam and live-stream the meeting. I'll get popcorn...
 
:D
 
@RyanBemrose I'm not surprised of that...
@Mogsdad cc @gunr2171 It could be worse, right?
 
5:42 PM
@JAL that is an war question if we close it
 
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rene has added an event to this room's schedule.
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FR create an api for chat
 
5:58 PM
@Braiam you'd be far from the first to ask that :)
 
What are events for? AFAICT, they generate an overlay on the window that you have to click away, and then it's business as usual in here.
 
@Closey event?
 
@RyanBemrose you can sign up if you're interesting and receive notifcations via email as reminders
 
@Closey alive
:(
@Closey bye
 
@RyanBemrose We use them for close events. We have a bot(misbehaving right now) and it gives us some tags to work on and we all filter the CVQ on those tags so we all vote on the same set of questions. This helps to get them out of the Q otherwise the close votes on those questions may age away.
 
6:03 PM
@JonClements Sadly, I'm not interesting, so I suppose I can't participate. :(
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interested I meant interested - maybe I should edit that :)
 
Back in Mandarin class, my teacher commented a few times about how Chinese students learning English would tend to say "I'm interesting/not interesting" when they meant to say "I'm interested/not interested."
 
JAL
@Drew yes, but it's an Apple issue. The highly upvoted answer is just "hey I'm having this problem too, it's on Apple"
it's a temporal event
 
JAL I am in complete agreement. But several of you are unable to close vote it now due to the prior. And the only exorcism apparently is a Hey Undo what can you Do
 
@Drew I think "Do" is "Undo"'s evil twin :)
 
JAL
6:14 PM
Jon's here, maybe he can comment on that question
 
you don't want them to join here :)
I'm not here... honest guv!?
 
JAL
ha
 
@queen maybe
 
@JAL @Drew what are we talking about here anyway - I'm flicking between various things at the moment - not always that easy to keep track of context...
 
JAL
@JonClements Sorry, this question related to an Apple server issue
 
6:18 PM
@JAL Not really.
 
@JAL I think it is an answer. If the service has a bug then an answer saying that is the answer.
 
^
 
@QPaysTaxes closey barfed last night
 
@QPaysTaxes that just shows the amount of love you have doesn't it, hey? :p
 
Why are there two close reasons for migrating to SU? Is there a difference between them?
 
6:23 PM
Back. Only needed three swings.
 
JAL
@JonClements thank you for the mod message on that iTunes Connect question
 
BTW what's the geographic location useful for in your room event names?
 
Did they change the weight of review votes in the LQP?
 
IOW, where's CVQ (East)?
@Machavity no, why?
 
6:24 PM
@QPaysTaxes Only a lot.
 
@QPaysTaxes IDK, the OP has another question that's terrible, but doesn't smell like a spam seed.
 
@TIPS Was the second Looks OK and it closed it out stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/12850706
It's a terrible solution but it does try to answer the question
 
@Closey alive?
 
@QPaysTaxes And it deserves a downvote for that
 
I'm on [debian] and [email] if someone wants to get company
 
6:27 PM
Been trying to follow Undo's advice
 
> Just because something's technically an answer doesn't mean it should be kept around.
 
Blob
 
JAL
mmmm waffles
 
waffle
It pains the brain among other things
the heck it will
 
@Machavity I've sometimes seen one "looks OK" get stuff out of the queue.
Shrug
This system is so damn complicated.
 
6:33 PM
Feel free to elaborate on your opinion on what is delete worthy
 
@QPaysTaxes nah it won't
 
anyone can see the thread? lkml.org/lkml/2016/6/15/1064
@QPaysTaxes anything with an accepted answer will not be roomba'ed
 
@QPaysTaxes But >0 answers, even accepted
 
or if any answer has score >=1
 
so therefore no roomba
 
6:35 PM
@QPaysTaxes Magic Internet Points Rep
 
Hint: when you see a comment from Skeet, it's probably an audit. stackoverflow.com/review/close/12854221
 
@Closey start event
 
There is no Closey...
 
great...
 
> which bit of code did you expect to print the characters?
oh Jon, do you expect them to know?
 
6:39 PM
let's work on 1337 54 42 35
 
I'm pretty sad. It makes me frustrated when people upvote an answer that was written after mine and was explained less in depth than mine. :P
 
meh, I'm pooped already just by doing , and
in that order
 
6 lines VS 56 lines of explanation
One explains how to fix it, the other explains why it behaves that way and fixes it
 
sometimes brevity is great. Other times the audience wants a Dr. Seuss book
 
Yeah, but brevity isn't always the best. You better understand the concept lest you come back later with the same question
Understanding it is most important but people don't seem to do that. Most of them just copy-paste and say 'it works!1!'
 
6:42 PM
"Try this"-answers are, IMO, the worst kind of answer one can plop. WHY SHOULD WE TRY THIS?!
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EXACTLY!
 
I think that everyone should aim for consistency
 
That's why I constantly leave comments telling them to explain it
 
Speaking from experience, it is possible to be too abstruse sometimes in answering.
 
^ Very true
My answers are consistently lengthy but get less upvotes then the brief ones that show the fix. And I answer before them.
I care about their understanding, not the rep.
 
6:44 PM
@Tunaki Then you want to stay away from the PHP tag. The regex "try this" answers don't even include "try this", they just post one regex code line :P
 
Ahaha.
I never got questions like 'do this thing pythonically'. Aren't they just a bit off-topic?
 
the only thing that motivates me to answer a question is money
 
;)
 
@AndrewL. Those questions asking for pythonic ways are opinion-based.
 
6:55 PM
What I thought
 
So should I flag answers that say "I agree too with <user>'s answer and ps <insert some advice>"
 
Hey, don't boot me out of the CVQ just because I'm out of votes! I can roboclick "Leave Open".
 
That's the basic gist
 
@Machavity Yes. That, or no mcve
 
@AndrewL. NAA. Be sure to comment and linking to the answer they are mentioning
 
@AndrewL. Depends. If their advice is actually good it's OK to build off another answer like that. If it's trivial then flag it
 
ARGH. Out of votes, so I couldn't seed-vote that. ^^^
 
That is of course in the case where <insert some advice> is actually directed at that other post and isn't an answer in itself.
 
What Tunaki said. Has to be able to stand on its own without the complement to the other answer
 
6:59 PM
@Machavity @Tunaki the answer structure was like this: I agree with <upvoted answer>, he makes a good point and <insert reexplanation here>. Also, you should always make your fields private (Java)
 

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