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12:27 AM
@WaiHaLee I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
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@WaiHaLee You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 26 minutes and 36 seconds, averaging to a review every 26 seconds.
 
12:53 AM
@Closey room effectiveness
 
@WaiHaLee 11 members (9% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 426 review items today, which accounts for 398.13% of all CV reviews today.
8
 
^ umm, 398.13% seems a bit off.
@Closey stats
 
7057 need review
107 reviews today
3219149 reviews all-time
 
426 > 107.
I have done some Maths; I know that to be true.
@Closey total reviews today
 
@WaiHaLee Today, 1 member has reviewed a total of 60 items.
 | User       | Review Items Today |
 |---------------------------------|
 | Wai Ha Lee | 60                 |
 
12:56 AM
hopefully you fed some goodies
 
I did. :)
Regarding the Closey issue, I think I should blame caching.
 
I wouldn't get hung up on the percents. Afterall, many of us next to never enter the queue
But we are glad you "scouts" go in and scout around.
 
Am I wasting my time in the queue rather than using something like your batches, or Rob's tool? I tend to skip questions I don't feel will get closed.
 
We need someone in the queue. For instance, if you weren't in the queue but were doing Rob's or Drew's stuff, then, say, Drew better be in the queue
At least for 1 sweep. To ferret out what is in the queue for us to pick up on. As signals. The signals are in bits of data that are available in the system.
 
Okay. I feel a bit bad that I don't use your batches much given that it was partly due to you that I wanted to participate more in this room - especially since it was you who pushed me over to 3k.
But I see what you're saying.
 
1:07 AM
On the contrary. I feel bad at times having people not use the queue.
But we have to balance it. We can't have everyone just pushing little stones around in the queue at cv 1 and 2. We need people on the outside too that are mega focused on the cv 3 and 4 stuff.
 
Good point, which is why I have started avoiding planting my CVs on questions which won't get closed. Especially those which the roomba will clean up in due course anyway.
Anyway, I'd best go to sleep - it's 2:11am here.
Night!
 
Night sir
 
 
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Rob
2:26 AM
@Tunaki @AndrasDeak @Ferrybig Oops - The site ran into it's quota overnight, it's back up now
@AndrasDeak It watches for people clicking the question link, because it'll queue up a job to refresh the question in two minutes
 
2:45 AM
@Drew I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
3:05 AM
@Rob Make sure you optimize the use of your quota in a sound strategy of batching. Depending on the particular API call. For instance, the API says up to 100 qid's can be passed in some calls. I have found only 30. Perhaps it is my filter. But I would never send a request for 1 question info if they are batchable. Otherwise you blow your quota
Just mark that row as "dirty". Glom them together if you can after a period of time. The dirty ones.
I will post some source code in a half an hour to demonstrate
But I haven't used Github in years so that tacks on some time.
 
3:29 AM
@Drew It's kinda like guitar hero, just a bit different: imgur.com/nGKPcyY
 
Rob
@Drew Thanks :) Though I'm not really using the API, there's a lot of information on the page I can scrape that the api doesn't provide - the quote I hit was on my hosting provider, hah :D
 
Honestly I make only 1 API call. I will share it with you. The rest is scrape.
@Rob so what "quota" are you talking about then if not the API quota?!
Oh I see said the blind man. Gotcha.
 
 
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4:38 AM
^ Could be unclear.
 
 
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5:59 AM
@Rob here is my preliminary git if you ever utilize the SE API and/or I ever accomplish more of this via, say, AWS EC2, team-wise, where it is currently being tested
 
^ troll?
 
6:32 AM
+9/-3
OK, now there's a question.
... and an answer :-(
 
life goes on. Hopefully we don't get flag banned for a week
Might make me think twice before I go off caring about Smokey spews next time
 
Welcome to the 4-train. Let's leave this room together.
 
 
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7:55 AM
@user2314737 I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
user2314737 passed a audit!
 
@drew Eh, the files weren't there when I went on-line this morning... :-)
 
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8:17 AM
How does Closey monitor this, and why?
 
unicorn blood magic
 
@CindyMeister vba_batch002 still there
But that was 12 hours ago. Not sure about Q state for them
 
@user2314737 You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 5 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 30 minutes and 7 seconds, averaging to a review every 30 seconds.
 
@JanDvorak I don't know why, but I guess to make the reviewing process more engaging
 
8:37 AM
@drew OK, I see it now. Must have still had sand in my eyes... Will take a look!
 
9:04 AM
@JanDvorak I believe we monitor the user profile actions tab, subtab reviews. We do so because I had an habit of reporting the audits here in the room to keep the room alive and give lurkers a hint that I was present.
 
9:15 AM
@drew OK, worked through them and even found some I hadn't already flagged :-)
 
Rob
9:36 AM
@Drew Great, thanks :)
@AndrasDeak Sure - what order do you expect the operators to be?
 
9:48 AM
@rene I'd always assumed you were omni-present :p
 
10:20 AM
 
10:30 AM
Morning
Earned my second gold badge today: Fanatic :D
 
Congrats!
 
@Ferrybig official recognition of your addiction to SO - congrats :p
 
11:19 AM
stackoverflow.com/users/5739393 He got an upvote on every single question he has, no matter how bad it is. Suspicious?
 
Gives us an idea for an SE query
 
@Rizier123 just flag it. we don't have the tools to determine if it is legit or not.
@JanDvorak good point, you're working on that?
 
Nope, go ahead.
 
Sam
11:43 AM
@JanDvorak Websockets ofc. ;)
And hey guys
 
11:58 AM
Hiya
 
Hiya
 
12:30 PM
@Ferrybig Gratz! Fanatic was my first gold badge I think =p
 
Sam
12:41 PM
@Closey lolwut
 
I'm starting to think that maths isn't one of Closey's strong points :)
 
@JonClements Well, since there's some of @gunr's code in there it's not so surprising
 
Btw I still have a pending PR on the April 2016 meeting agenda. Should I edit / close it?
 
12:57 PM
@Kyll let me check, IIRC it was discussed internally
 
Oh. Well, if it's something to be discussed internally then it should be closed as we wouldn't discuss it during the meeting..?
@Tunaki Still not complete. Any news on your flag?
 
@Kyll pending
 
Meh. Should we start on in the meanwhile?
 
@Kyll No, we need to handle the PR which we all agreed on .... but did nothing on that note...
 
@rene Uh, okay
 
1:01 PM
@Kyll There are a lot of featured posts at the moment, let's wait until it calms down
 
@Tunaki Indeed
 
@Kyll once I have enough RO's online I'll revisit that PR. I'll see to it that something is done, either merged in or rejected with a reason.
 
@rene Okay, thanks
 
Rob
Will there be a list of decisions/etc from the meeting? Or just a transcript of the chat - unfortunately can't make it with my timezone
 
@Rob Yeah, it looks like we will be making some notes/record the outcome.
 
Rob
1:06 PM
Great! :)
 
There's a Resolutions section on there so yep
 
@Kyll Looks like your PR is going to make it on to the agenda
 
Yay
 
1:39 PM
@rene is the agenda locked or can I throw a suggested new one on?
 
What subject would you like to add?
 
It goes like this: "For the month of April, should we completely avoid adding superfluous close requests to the queue as it damages our numbers. Shouldn't we let non-socvr people do the FIRST vote."
That included NATO ^ or any fishing around in old stuff.
Let's just clear the current queue. Think: the Shog challenge. Let's be smart about it.
 
Can we discuss that as part of the effectiveness topic that is already on the agenda?
 
I think this is included in "Are the activities of the room effective at meeting its goals?" and "What can / should we do to make our votes more effective?"
 
I won't make the meeting. Too many people probably want to talk at the same time. So the above is my only contribution to it.
And my view is "don't add junk for April" ... "Clear the current junk" ... "If you don't know of current junk in Queue ask for a list"
 
1:46 PM
Our goal is to make that -> "Too many people probably want to talk at the same time" not happen
So leave that matter to us :) I think it would be a great idea if you did attend the meeting: you can throw your ideas at those 2 questions and we can all discuss it
 
2:22 PM
@Tunaki It is more that I am kinda busy and can't make the meeting
 
@Drew It would really help if you could be there - I doubt anyone else can fully present your views or answer questions about them. You've put lots of thought and effort into it already, and there's no better opportunity for building support behind the idea.
 
@ProgramFOX can you (or others you can point them at) consider reviewing the questions for batches 73 and 74 that are in the beehive ... click "View" follow the links back to SO pages
 
Sure. Not at this moment though, but I'll take a look at them later today.
 
thx boss
 
3:05 PM
@Rob Feature-request: add a button "This post does not warrant closure" and it would remove it from the list
 
@Tunaki I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
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@Tunaki then it needs to be reviewed and edited. It doesn't remove the fact that it is in the queue count
Or reviewed and one clicks Leave Open. Otherwise all you are doing is reviewing Rob's database.
 
3:25 PM
Tunaki passed an audit!
 
yeah baby
 
Tunaki passed a audit!
 
@Tunaki "i will send you my picture" spam seed?
 
How fast does it need to die? (does NAA suffice :) )
Yeah okay I guess it does
 
3:44 PM
Drew passed a audit!
 
Sam
@Tunaki Looks like spam
Flagged as such
 
Olo
 
Hiya @TheLostMind o/
 
Hi!
 
\o/
 
3:51 PM
@Tunaki You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 4 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 38 minutes and 22 seconds, averaging to a review every 38 seconds.
 
Thanks love.
spam confirm
 
@Tunaki - TCO
 
Umm nope.. It means taken care of
 
Well I was way off base then!
 
3:56 PM
a long way.. yes. :P
 
thoughts of possible spam / malicious download? stackoverflow.com/a/36387623/1743880
 
Probably..
Could be a legit link as well
 
@Tunaki virustotal.com/en/url/… Kaspersky says it's a phishing site
 
Ha!
 
Ok. I will mark it as spam..
Thanks @Tunaki and @Rizier123
 
4:05 PM
Hello all \o
 
Hiya o/
 
afternoon!
 
@gunr o/
 
Olo
 
Hey gunr
 
4:06 PM
So your exams @Bhargav? Went fine?
 
Olo@TheLostMind \o
 
@Tunaki 2/3 went well
The other was not so Ok
 
If you wrote I know T U N A K I and signed Plop at the end, then you have nothing to worry about :P
 
Did that too!
 
4:09 PM
He's not my friend.
:p
^ smiley defuser, very important
 
tries to slip in a 10
 
Well.. I See
 
@TheLostMind LoL
 
olo
 
Could you do a SEDE query to check how many checks were posted after a question was closed as duplicate?
 
4:22 PM
Not able to enter values in hashMap using Keyboard -> stackoverflow.com/questions/36387894/…
 
@Rizier123 What do you mean "how many checks"?
 
@Tunaki lol how many checks -> how many answers
 
Yeah you could do that, let me see
There's a wonderful one which received 5 answers after being closed...
 
Now could you do that for a particular userid :P?
 
Sure
 
4:32 PM
Er... Is that spam?
 
Could you modify the query above to do that @Tunaki ?
 
not spam, it answers the question
@Rizier123 Already doing that
Oh god I answered one apparently :D
 
I apparently answered 7 after it, lol
 
:D
 
4:47 PM
Predictably, the solution to the problem was deleted by the LQP.
 
@Tunaki Just played around with the query a bit and could you check how many answers were posted after it was closed as dupe compared to how many answers were posted after it was closed with something else than a dupe? (With percentages,e.g. Answers posted after closed as dupe % and Answers posted after closed not a dupe % )
 
@BhargavRao dupehammer? stackoverflow.com/q/19346033
I don't feel like wedging ^ old one in my db
 
@Rizier123 Hmmmm. Do you want to take into account the fact that a question might have been closed as dupe and reopened and closed as something else? Or do you just want to focus on the latest close reason?
 
I think keeping it simple and just go for the latest close reason :P
 
Okay.
 
4:57 PM
@Drew Yep
 
@Rizier123 Percentage based on the number of answers on the question? On the number of answer of the user?
 
@Tunaki 100% = all answers posted after it was closed.
?% = all answers posted after it was closed as dupe
?% = all answers posted after it was closed NOT as a dupe
 
@Rizier123 data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/465369 This returns the percentage of answers posted after the closure of the question as dupe. For not dupe, you just need to change the AND EXISTS to AND NOT EXISTS
 
5:14 PM
I mean like over all questions, like this one: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/29727632#29727632 :P not for a particular user.
 
@Rob now it says "votes: | number | operator", but choosing "votes: | 2 | >=" will give you posts for which "votes>=2". If you just reversed the order to be "votes: | operator | number", the same machinery would be fully logical to me, and wouldn't involve any Yoda logic :)
one can figure it out with 2 tries in the worst case, so it's not a big deal:P And maybe I have an odd way of thinking
 
typing...
 
Drew passed a audit!
 
I can propose you the following which returns the percentage of answers posted after the question was closed as dupe data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/465379
this one is good ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------^
 
@BhargavRao dupe batches available. I can feed 10 at a time until you are exhausted.
 
5:29 PM
Thanks, I'll do the CV review and then catch you. :)
 
@Rizier123 What do you want to do with it?
 
3 upvotes on my previous CVPLS's question. The content ends by "what all are the steps that needs to be explored so as fulfil the above requirement". ::cries::
 
@BhargavRao I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
5:49 PM
@Tunaki To see how many answers, which gets posted after they were closed are posted to a duplicate.
 
The average of it all is about 78% don't remember exactly, I queried it also.
 
So it is pretty high as I thought
 
'i'm working on kaggle titanic dataset' .. . . I'm afraid to ask:)
 
@Ferrybig Hmmmmmmm very possibly but it's not 100% sure that the code the OP has is explained by this
 
6:46 PM
@Tunaki that query is biased... downvoted duplicates are deleted
 
@Braiam How so?
 
I can query PostsWithDeleted instead.
 
@Kyll "downvoted duplicates are deleted"?
 
@Braiam Yes? Roomba'ed you mean? The Roomba doesn't affect duplicates
 
Heh, it's even worse with deleted posts
 
6:49 PM
Wait, maybe duplicates are deleted with RemoveDeadQuestions or RemoveAbandonedQuestions
 
It's horrible actually when you think of it. 82% of answers to dupe questions came after the question was closed.
 
so... FR delete duplicates scored 0 or less?
 
@Closey room effectiveness
 
@Kyll 14 members (12% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 509 review items today, which accounts for 33.89% of all CV reviews today.
 
@Closey next 5 tags
 
6:55 PM
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Kyll The next 5 tags are: 27, 25, 24, 24, 23
 
[tag:tags]
 
[tags:tag]
 
@Braiam I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Oh hey is here today!
 
@Kyll I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
6:59 PM
Rollbacked the bad edit.
 
sd remove- edited
 
Let's see how soon it will get revandalized
 
Commenting.
 
@EricD K, thanks
 
Kyll passed a audit!
 
7:06 PM
Moving on to
 
@Kyll no much there...
 
Why do I think Closey's cheerleading is more spammy than cv request status updates?
 
I like Closey stalking
 
I like Closey stalking
 
I like Closey stalking
 
7:09 PM
[the next train wagon doesn't make sense]
 
And I'm done with
Punny BR title idea: "Remove all the [tags]".
 
Strip the [tags]
 
I like haunting you all in this room.
 
So you were making all the ghost sounds
@Braiam Yeah =(
> https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=228670&messageID=712308#7123‌​08 on this link i have explained the issue and attached the files
sigh
Done with
 
@Kyll nooooooooooo! I have bought stuff yesterday and they are not delivered yet :(
 
7:22 PM
Dang is bad. Should it be burnt too?
 
7:34 PM
done too
@Closey next 10 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Kyll The next 10 tags are: 27, 25, 24, 24, 23, 23, 22, 21, 21, 20
 
done
 
@BhargavRao it's 112AM we doing these dupes?
 
done
 
@Drew sorry bud, series of events in the middle. reviewing now
 
7:44 PM
I haven't posted them yet btw
 
Event1 .. R Room meeting
 
ah ok. Catch ya some other time
 
What's event 3?
 
Telling others about it
Bah failed audit
clicked edit :/
 
7:46 PM
@BhargavRao Nice, gratz
 
Thanks :-)
 
Bhargav Rao passed a audit!
Bhargav Rao passed an audit!
 
@BhargavRao You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 4 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 2 hours, 26 minutes, and 53 seconds, averaging to a review every 2 minutes and 26 seconds.
 
8:02 PM
@Drew I'm ready, put it in the hive :)
 
@rene I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
@BhargavRao they are at the top of the Hive
I see you had prev in the meantime got to 3 of them
 
Lol; I'm efficient, ain't I :P
 
yeah well some of your python bro's beat ya too them 2 hrs ago
so I pruned em down
and down
and
 
and there's a few poo open still:P
assuming that poo is countable
but it doesn't sound like it is
 
8:16 PM
yeah well I am talking about the dupe batches I had ready
 
ah, sorry:)
 
@Drew What do I do when I find a non-dupe but poo? Shall I vtc or search for next dupe?
 
just skip it
 
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rene passed a audit!
@Kyll You've reviewed 60 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 1 hour, 28 minutes, and 51 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 28 seconds.
 
@Closey room effectiveness
 
8:29 PM
@Kyll 17 members (15% of this room's able reviewers) have processed 626 review items today, which accounts for 38.19% of all CV reviews today.
 
@Drew went through both, closed many. Left those that I was not sure off. Have 3 votes left and 3 bad questions, thought I will cv them
 
Aaand out of votes
 
stackoverflow.com/q/36390853/3933332 Is there a JS dupe for this?
 
@BhargavRao thx. Will take a look at remnants. Like if they were at cv1 tho or something, we still have batches of cv4. Not that you have votes.
 
@Drew Yep, Have 3. You can sen it in one msg, I guess.
 
@Rizier123 Meh, probably not. It's extremely specific.
 
OP doesn't want to use regular expressions.
 
@Kyll what they're asking is very simple to do, I'll be surprised if there isn't a duplicate. What they need to do is look if there's a '?' at the beginning and end (so a substring of 0,1)
 
5 answers, yet the example provided by OP is wrong (see my comment). Who cares? REP REP REP
 
such a task takes 2 mins to write in VB.NET
 
8:46 PM
@cybermonkey Don't know how much time it'd take in JS, since I don't know the complexity of the task, since the examples are unclear
 
Damn, the JavaScript tag is scary.
 
Undo has started reviewing!
 
@Tunaki yup
 
@Tunaki scary utter garbage
 
commented on one of the answers, pointing out the ironicness of the answer
 
8:50 PM
Still, the best way to handle that kind of FGITW works great even if we can't really talk about it around here
 
I also find it amusing that the user's now deleted their answer.
 
uberTrim = s => s.length > 1 && s[0] === s[s.length - 1]? s.slice(1, s.length - 2).trim() : s;
Maybe.
Testing.
lol, it works
Y'know what, let's post it as CW
SPAM!
 
First flag of the day ^
 
@Kyll Someone made a real answer.
 
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