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12:25 AM
o/
 
Rob
12:41 AM
So as I mentioned before, I've noticed a huge amount of rubbish questions getting immediately upvoted. For example: stackoverflow.com/questions/36731831/…
 
Huh, have you raised a mod flag?
 
Rob
That's hardly a question, and it gets upvoted within a minute of being posted. Since it's continually happening, something seems suss.
Well I wouldn't really know what to flag... "People are upvoting bad questions"
Maybe I'll keep a list..
 
Ah, try to make a list, then a meta post maybe.
If you really care, I think just close and delete them is simpler.
And also, a cv-pls.
 
Rob
Yeah, I usually wait until 10-15mins for cv-pls
as per guidelines here
 
Wait, do we have that rule?
 
Rob
12:45 AM
I was sure I saw it somewhere.. hang on
Apparantly I clicked through the cv-pls link on the github to sopython's rules
so I guess maybe they don't apply here
 
Got it.
> 2. [cv-pls] should not be a habit for users. (Don't make it an instinct to fast-track every eligible post to the front of the closure system. Exceptions are okay if the post is really bad or the users in that tag can't close the post in time.)
Looking at the sopython.com/wiki/cv-pls...
> For new Python questions we have put into effect a 10-minute grace period. Please don’t cv-pls during the first 10 minutes of a question’s existence. This allows the OP time to edit any further detail in, or reply to comments. You are, of course, free to vote to close as soon as you like, just don’t cv-pls it to the room.
Huh, I'd say if the question can be fixed (via editing), then we can post a comment and ask for an edit. But if it's a really bad/off-topic one, I think just cv-pls is fine.
@rene Hmmm...why do we have a link to sopython.com/wiki/cv-pls then? I think that our FAQ is enough. And also, does the above rule apply here? If so, how about edit our FAQ and add that one?
 
Rob
Yeah, I suppose so. It was long ago that I read it, just had it in my head to wait 10-15mins in general
Plus at this time it's really empty in the room, so cv-pls rarely have an affect
 
!!/blame timezone (again) =/
 
@KevinGuan It's Mogsdad's fault.
 
1:20 AM
does anyone know a user with a SO CV (resume)? I need some ideas for mine.
(besides Jeremy Banks)
 
1:32 AM
@KevinGuan We (ROs) attended the Python room's meeting, but haven't discussed adopting any of their resolutions or rules. That one could be good, though - I've been retiring some of our cv-pls requests because the questions were improved to the point that we could leave them alone. That equates to a waste of votes, imho.
 
1:55 AM
@Mogsdad Well, I still think that that one is useless, IMO: If you think the issue of the question could be fixed via editing, why are you still voting, instead of comment or just edit? - Otherwise, what are you waiting for?
 
@KevinGuan Making people wait is intended to encourage those behaviours. The point is that engaging the room in immediate close voting should not be done, if a post can be rehabilitated.
 
@Mogsdad But shouldn't we close those very bad questions as quickly as possible, to get rid of others post an answer?
@Mogsdad Err...did you mod-flag it?
 
@KevinGuan Yes. But it's very odd.
 
Agree
 
@KevinGuan Very bad == Not redeemable, so those should be closed. "Fast" is in relative terms... as discussed earlier, it's hard to get 5 cvs this time of day, anyway.
 
2:07 AM
 
@gunr2171 So... in 2008 it was OK to just kind of hint at the possible existence of conversations that might inspire you to think of the answer yourself?
 
uh....yes
(though that's not a bad of an example)
and I'm out, sleep time
 
@Mogsdad Wow...let's just find three people and burn them all.
@Mogsdad Fine...let's move on.
And night gunr.
 
@KevinGuan Burn answers? I'm editing the ones that are answers, flagging the ones that aren't, and leaving them for the devil mods to sort out.
 
@Mogsdad Yeah, like that.
 
2:18 AM
I sorted them by time, and started at the front. I've hit 30 so far, will probably stop at 60. The size of the list changes with edits, of course. You could start from the back, if you wanted, so we don't collide. Or just leave it until I quit, and I can tell you the last one I touched.
 
Okay I'd wait until you quit.
 
Rob
2:56 AM
Hmm, the queue was 7.2k yesterday
Back up to 8.6
 
I swear that Shog is playing with us
 
@Rob I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Rob
Yeah.. though nowadays I'm rarely in the queue
 
3:16 AM
@KevinGuan - I'm done with this for tonight. The first 30 posts are flagged, and I edited 55. Only one problem; this got rolled back by the owner.
As with any large-scale editing, touching these has the side-effect of briefly making the questions "active", which bugs a certain sub-group of users.
 
Huh, 244k.
 
@Khalid, I hope you're doing something to increase your rep score so that you can start close voting, instead of just feeding requests!
 
@Mogsdad So, I should ignore the first 30 posts in that list, and start at 31?
 
@KevinGuan or, you know, go backwards :P
 
@KevinGuan Yes... which is right around that troublesome one.
And remember... the MagicEditor removes "Thanks in advance".
 
3:21 AM
@Braiam Well, then we have try to remember two numbers. You know, I only have one brain =p
 
@KevinGuan [citation needed]
 
@Mogsdad Yeah, have free flags review time!
@Braiam upvote
 
...of course, it won't hurt to review the ones I flagged, and flag them again if you agree.
 
But that will wastes my flags since they'll all be put into the queue. So I'd save my flags to review more.
And then, is this an answer, or a question posted as an answer, or an answer which has both an answer and a question within it? stackoverflow.com/a/29400043/5299236
 
@KevinGuan That's the OP asking a follow up question in an answer... NAA. Comment "to ask a new question..." May be worth a custom flag, so a quick-fingered Mod doesn't assume it's an answer based on length and presence of code.
I did hit a few examples where the OP self-answered, then followed up with more questions. In that case, I deleted all the question material, and commented to let them know they should ask a new question with that.
@KevinGuan ... with 9K answers, 1311 posts edited and 195 helpful flags. Definitely not a curator.
 
3:35 AM
@Mogsdad Done.
@Mogsdad Yeah...
 
@NathanOliver Lassie and her eight descendants have been, well, female impersonators. That's right - Lassie has always been a he, not a she, and his name wasn't Lassie. ref So maybe Jon is Lassie!
That's all for me - time for sleep. Keep up the good fight!
 
Night Moggy
 
3:50 AM
What is this? A question? Looks very unclear to me: stackoverflow.com/questions/28348678/…
Night Moggy
 
@KevinGuan Don't copy me
@KevinGuan Yes, looks like question or probably an edit in question, flagged.
 
I just love train =/
 
@SmokeDetector Is that correct keyword
 
Err...from the above answer, I think so.
 
Yeah, blacklist seems fair.
 
3:55 AM
@AlexanderO'Mara But he have some valid posts
 
I wonder if they were hacked into posting that. I don't see a rep penalty from it on their profile (I'm not sure if those are visible).
 
not enough flags for penalty on that?
 
That one is valid anyway.
 
A moderator deleted it, would that normally trigger flag approval?
 
Should this be an edit, because it's "I've tried this code but it doesn't work" stuff posted as an answer? stackoverflow.com/questions/27860404/…
afk
 
4:16 AM
@Tushar I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Tushar passed a audit!
Tushar passed an audit!
@Tushar You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 2 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 9 minutes and 22 seconds, averaging to a review every 14 seconds.
 
 
1 hour later…
5:40 AM
@SmokeDetector 10 mins and still breathing, probably just one more flag required
 
5:56 AM
Oh lol, just got a random accepted answer, after like months OP just changes the accepted answer: stackoverflow.com/a/30681087/3933332
 
I've accepted an answer on my only question with about a week's delay
 
6:15 AM
How is it possible, with so many of us in this room, that the SAP ERP Smokey detected isn't on hold (or removed)? My cv was the only one?
 
@CindyMeister I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Good morning
 
Cindy Meister passed a audit!
 
Hello @XtremeCoder
 
6:36 AM
Morning (maybe I am a little late to respond @Magisch)
@SmokeDetector sd gone
 
Plop @rene
 
Morning :-)
 
\o
 
BlackListed...
Just leave it..
 
@CindyMeister Me, I'm only watching the game, controlling it.
 
6:50 AM
@JanDvorak Popcorn?
 
You are playing a game of chess in which white can always protect his pieces and black starts with sixteen pawns but he can respawn them indefinitely and you need six pieces to capture a black pawn.
In the mean time, each turn one gray pawn spawns. They cannot move or be captured. They only take up space.
 
@CindyMeister You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 43 minutes and 8 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 4 seconds.
 
Mmm. Interesting way to consider it... A bit scary, actually!
 
7:14 AM
@JanDvorak ...and then if you manage to win that game you've got to knock-out the troll then solve a potions' puzzle involving poison just to get to the first incarnation of the end-of-level boss? :p
 
You can't win. You can only earn a couple of free turns
 
The only winning move is not to play, hey? :p
 
@JonClements table flip and walk away :D
 
I'm not playing and I don't think it helps :-D
 
@AlexanderO'Mara website reeks of spam
question is Too Broad anyhow, just not sure about the website
 
7:24 AM
Lot of rep for spammer though.
 
Hiya
 
@Tunaki just in time, check SD latest report will you?
 
@Kyll o/
 
By meta effect this Q got 91 downvotes, but I don't feel like it deserved it..
 
Morning
 
7:27 AM
@TimCastelijns meh, -182/+200 rep us almost equal
 
But the Q is not even bad
 
@kayess o/
 
Plop!
 
Tunaki \o
@Kyll \o
 
One more for this legal question. Who's going to click-ninja all the others? Tunaki wins
 
7:34 AM
Morning @kyll @tuna
@kayess and jon
 
o/
 
and tim
and adrian
all people suddenly appear
 
@Magisch o/
 
Abd @alex
 
@Magisch I presume you mean Adriaan? Or is there someone here who can't spell his own name?
 
7:35 AM
a wild Crowd suddenly appears
 
Well
^^
Jan even
 
@Magisch heya \o @Jon
 
Uh oh - did someone dare ping me!!? :p
 
the crowd: kick! kick! kick!
 
@Jon o/
 
7:39 AM
@Kyll kick Jon? that seems harsh, even though it's a dog
 
@JonClements I didnt on purpose when I greeted you but now I feel strangely compelled to
 
@​Jon Plop!
 
Often times I see people involved in multi level marketing schemes
 
@Tunaki I dare you to type that for our dearest floaty head and not have your hands shaking
 
and I wonder "How could you possibly fall for this?"
 
7:41 AM
@Magisch You did buy my name though
 
Your name isnt a multi level marketing scheme
 
So we officially shouldn't greet mods ?
 
m m m my han.. hands are n n n n n not shak k k k k k ing
 
I do greet them, but often without a ping
 
Whatever
 
7:43 AM
@kayess Mods are like popstars around here, so you can greet them but I guess it'll mostly be annoying. Just return the favour if they do
 
@Kyll I see, noted thanks.
 
Why should we treat them differently? They will just have to deal with our hi's and hey's like everyone else :D
 
Idk their time is both very limited and very valueable
Like in the grand scheme of things if someone wastes 10 minutes of my life throughout a day with greetings no one will care
for a mod thats less the case
 
If you think time of your life is wasted when people greet you, you have bigger problems :P
 
Well
:p
 
7:54 AM
Anyone knows how to get the date a message appeared on chat without clicking on the message actions button?
 
I wasted 15 seconds of my life typing this message.
 
@Tunaki Takes you fifteen seconds to write that?
 
@Kyll sometimes there's a timestamp
 
@JanDvorak Yeah, when messages are > 5 minutes apart or so
 
@Kyll he's french, has to type it in french first, then translate it and replace the words
 
7:56 AM
@TimCastelijns I'm French and I don't fais it
 
Je'm French et I don't do ça.
 
this hurts so much
 
Le baladeur
Sorry for cursing
 
why is there eggs.js in the source..?
Eggs.Cthulu what the hell is that doing in me console now
Meh, just crashes. Plop Ferry!
 
@Kyll Cthulu is everywhere. He comes
 
8:07 AM
Above all, it's misspelled. And we haven't seen Cthulhu lately =/
 
If there are users here with close vote and/or delete vote privileges on MSE please keep an eye on their active questions. The TOS attracts a lot of off-topic crap that needs votes.
 
I have 101 rep on MSE =/
 
You should work on that ...
 
I already can barely get any rep on SO
 
I have more rep on MSE then on SO ...
 
8:15 AM
I have garbage rep both on so and MSE
 
@Kyll Easy enough to get rep on MSE. Just post red-circles. And kittens.
 
I'm crashing my chat client o_o
YESH. It worked! Chat messages now have timestamps
 
Congrats?
 
Maybe.
 
@Kyll Crashing your apps improves their performance?
 
8:20 AM
@MartinJames It's not about performance, it's about style
 
A wild @martin appeared
 
@Kyll lol
 
@Kyll script plz
 
@TimCastelijns Still building. It's @gunr's FR...
 
8:37 AM
Thanks, let me know when it's online
 
o/
What is a proper cv reason for questions with an answer of "install the lib before trying ot use it"
 
typo?
 
I thought about that but technically it's not a typo and you can reproduce the problem
 
Why do you want to close it?
Ping the commenter to post an answer. If they don't, post a community-wiki attributing the comment.
 
Can't think of a valid reason, I guess I don't after all :P
cheers guys
 
8:45 AM
@Kitler Thats what the "minimal understanding" reason used to be for before it was canned
 
I miss that cv reason x.x
 
@MartinJames I saw you post the other day about someone running a bot to star/unstar messages in the lounge
whats up with that
 
@Tunaki you, you, you...
 
@Magisch Just some annoying user. It was really distracting. I asked them to stop, with the expected effect, so I stopped going there.
 
@Tushar WAAAAAAY too broad
 
8:57 AM
@Cerbrus "Plz give me the tutoringz"
 
> please help me.ur answer matters
 
His grammar certainly doesn't
 
Just... No.
Guys, just 2 more close votes on the typo I linked earlier, please.
And the summer app question can now be delete-voted
 
So broad it encompasses all
 
Err
Does the request button US bonk for anyone else? cdn.sstatic.net/Sites/stackoverflow/img/…
 
9:03 AM
@Kyll ah yes
 
Sam
Morning
 
Plop Sam
 
Done...
@Cerbrus Some idiot is trying to undelete it.
 
It'd be fun if, instead of immediately deleting, SD first edited to "Deleted in: time" and deleted five seconds later
 
@PraveenKumar Did you get much ping's yesterday when there was an abusive user posting many posts?
 
Sam
9:09 AM
@Kyll +1
 
@PraveenKumar Wat
Maybe the OP
 
@Kyll wouldn't that enforce people to race more to delete it, and look less at the actual post to see if it's real abusive?
 
@Ferrybig Enforce, no. Entice, maybe. Do you mean it'd make us look like we race to delete things for the fun?
Because yes, it probably would
Mh
Or instead just write it up on Metasmoke
 
9:25 AM
Plop!
 
Plop Kevin =D
 
Sam
Hiya
 
Plop Kevin
 
9:45 AM
Last report is extremely fishy. Does anyone confirm?
 
It's a blog...
 
Wow...such a long blog post...
Is that just link-only?
 
Rather
 
Urgh
It's not even quite so NAA
Well, it is an answer to the question but still NAA. Just close this thing
 
morning
 
9:49 AM
Plop
 
Plop
 
passed 200 helpful flags, woo!
 
Ahh...
 
my stalker and Blaze are awesome
 
@AndrasDeak Congrats, I have passed 1300
 
9:52 AM
yeah I know you're all big flaggers:P
 
Noone can beat our big fish tho :p
 
Is this question off-topic/typo? stackoverflow.com/a/27135427/5299236
 
@kayess Kayess flag game so strong he has more flags then rep
 
inb4 Tuna and his 10k helpful flags
 
all the flag
 
9:53 AM
@Magisch True that :p
 
@KevinGuan Maybe not
 
@Kyll He's helpful flags are even more than our rep =/
@Kyll Huh, as the answers said, seems the problem is just because that ID should be id....I'm also not sure anyway.
@IanKemp Huh, please also put the reason (why you're voting to close the question) into your cv-pls request.
 
@IanKemp [tag:cv-pls]
 
Check our FAQ for more details, we also have a user-script to auto post a cv-pls request here when you're voting to close a question by the way: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts
 
thanks guys
i don't post here often but that one was a stinker
 
9:57 AM
answer was poofed.
There's a delete vote on the question
 
@IanKemp You have fully used your [cv-pls] allowance for today. To enjoy more SOCVR goodness, please bring waffles.
 
@Kyll please accept my humble offering of virtual waffles
 
@IanKemp Offering accepted
 
Tuna forgot about the link to How to Ask
 
It's not f
Is it? It was offensive
 
10:03 AM
Meh.
 
afk
 
@Tunaki Huh, I agree with Kyll. Will that teaches Smokey wrong stuff? :(
 
But it didn't warrant an offensive flag.
 
you keep discussing this every week
mayhaps there should be a set of guidelines by charcoal?
 
Agree ^
 
10:08 AM
agree
 
@AndrasDeak But wait, if we don't discussing this, what we can discuss?
 
Tuna's newest beret
 
Whether we should be discussing this.
 
that also ^
 
@AndrasDeak Oh, that angrey cat with a beret meme.
Is this an answer? Or comment? Or Thanks? stackoverflow.com/a/27093047/5299236
 
10:12 AM
You cannot just go around flagging stuff that you think is offensive. If I flagged every PHP/jQuery question, I would get suspended/banned.
3
 
and even frowned upon by a few
 
@MartinJames Wait, didn't you?
 
@KevinGuan does it add new info?
If it doesn't, comment. If it does, answer (with possible downvote)
 
@KevinGuan Not recently;)
@AndrasDeak Maybe, but who cares about them?
 
@AndrasDeak Huh, I don't know. Seems that only 3 line and 4 line are useful...but I don't understand what these lines mean since I don't know PHP.
afk
 
10:19 AM
Plop y'all!
 
Sam
Hiya
 
Sam s son :P
 
@KevinGuan I'd say skip then
 
that's a troll, nuke it
gone
 
sorry, had to work a bit
 
10:33 AM
@AndrasDeak stop doing that, get your priorities right....
 
yeah I know
I'll be ostracised soon
at least I'll still be able to buy bread:D
 
> Please read How to Answer and the help center before posting offensive content.
Hah!
Nice one, @Tunaki :D
 
:D
afk
 
my husband made me swap mice with him, he always manages to break stuff like this. this stupid mouse feels like i have parkinsons ><
 
@cimmanon Buy a new one?
 
10:46 AM
@Magisch well yeah, but there arent any stores open this early and the closest place that would sell one is about a half hour away
 
@cimmanon ahh shucks
 
@Magisch isn't that rude to suggest to buy a new husband?
8
 
Your name is a conundrum though
its not cinnamon
 
@rene LOL
 
@rene thats an option too, but unfortunately he already broke the mouse :p
so unless its a "buy a new husband, get a mouse free", it isnt very helpful
 
10:49 AM
:D
 
proper husbands bring their own rig nowadays
 
Why do we flag gibberish as abusive, again?
 
because it abuses the system?
intentional disruption of the normal workings of the site
 
No, I'm looking for a meta post to convince a bunch of people.
 
ah
you made a mistake by engaging in a discussion:P
 
\o @Tuna
 
same thing, lol:D
 
@PhMgBr o/
 
@PhMgBr sup Bro(mide)
 
@Magisch Hey Magixish
 

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