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JAL
6:00 PM
i thought it was 60
 
I think every score is stuck after 60 days, but this is just a guess
 
the # is not important
 
JAL
yeah, say you get downvoted and delete an answer after x days, the rep sticks
not sure about tag level
 
I only care about the tag level
 
JAL
@MadaraUchiha I summon thee with waffles
we can ask a mod
 
6:02 PM
@Drew something something doesn't care about anything
@JAL maybe we should look at meta first...?
 
@JAL sup
 
shouldn't interfere with all the madaraing
 
@JAL Generally summoning a mod is not considered good etiquette unless you really need one :p (Although I see @Madara has arrived)
 
JAL
@MadaraUchiha Drew had a question about rep loss at the tag level chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/29068624#29068624
@JonClements Sorry, will refrain, I just saw Madra was in the channel and actively chatting
 
@JAL now pinging another mod...great.
 
JAL
6:03 PM
might as well just point !!/blame to me these days
 
Meta contains vague answers such as no loss of rep after x days on deletes. My question is what about at the tag-level
 
@Drew well I couldn't have known whether this has been discussed or not
 
I wasn't really directing that at you, physics
 
Oh, OK then, programming
 
JAL
Ugh, the OP never returned to award the bounty here...
 
6:07 PM
that's a huge pain in the buttocks
 
JAL
yes, would have been an easy 200 rep for me...
 
we have a user in who has a habit of assigning bounties, then regularly not being satisfied with the answers (which usually tell them to "don't do that/don't do that like this")
 
JAL
lol
 
I confronted him after a while, so there has been an instance or two when someone actually got the full bounty...
 
Hi again o/
 
6:09 PM
@JAL those png files ain't exactly mobile friendly (mobile users)
file size
Yo, Chicago in the house
 
How much recursive code would a Java EE developer write at a job?
hello drew
 
about next to none
 
lawl that's great xD
 
it's just an interview trick
 
@FarazDurrani that sounds like a "how many Java EE developers does it take to screw in a light bulb" joke
 
6:12 PM
i m happy no recursion
 
I however write a lot of recursive code... start working with aggregations and similar stuff and you find out...
 
say no to recursion!
what is aggregations?
 
fancy word for summing things up
 
@Drew lol...
it is more like grouping...
 
use phrases like "in the aggregate" about once every 40 sentences.
 
6:15 PM
no like what is agregation code?
 
@Magisch You nija edited me... but your edit can have been better... : )... I still see thanks, no question in title
 
it is code that aggregates
 
ok i google it i m reading abou tit
 
@PetterFriberg I focused on getting the swear out
 
about it*
 
6:16 PM
it's not that exciting
 
Wasn't feeling like doing anything else
 
@PetterFriberg are you a Java EE guy?
 
no Java Swing /FX C#, boss type of guy : )
 
@PetterFriberg boss --> doesn't count
 
then that is good I don't have to worry about aggregation xD
 
6:17 PM
but I done some jsf, hibernate stuff...
 
you can outsource the crappy things to the slaves employees;)
 
@FarazDurrani aggregations are fun... you take flat data, then you restructure it as user needs...
 
users are the worst
 
lol, no hiberante and jsf and other shitty web tech are...
 
I looked up aggregations. It doesn't look so bad. It looks okay (easy). At least not difficult as recusion
 
6:20 PM
@FarazDurrani Aggregation is a general word... so I have no clue what you looked up... : )
 
Recursion is fun
 
@FarazDurrani I think recursion needs a special way of thinking, which might or might not be down your alley. And I'm sure it can be developed if you're less gifted by Mother Nature. I've always found recursions difficult to follow.
 
JAL
Answered my own meta question about IBM's Swift sandbox: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/318025/2415822
 
Aggreations there is a lot of recursion, hence tree structure is created and values are calculated through recursion...
 
6:21 PM
oh. no to aggregation as well then
 
Why are we revisiting recursion?
 
JAL
sd edited
 
Sam
@rene So we can understand recursion.
 
Why are we revisiting recursion?
 
Hi Sam..... closey?? 1 2 3 clear ....
Why are we revisiting
 
Sam
6:25 PM
Why are we
 
Why are
 
The same reason we're talking about tautologies: to talk about tautologies.
 
Why?
 
ooops train rekd:P
 
Sam
6:25 PM
@PetterFriberg Hiya
 
Awesome I have exactly 25.5K rep
 
that's a huge milestone since your 25001 or something;)
 
I started recusion question. I wanted to know how much Java EE developer writes recursive code at work. And I got my answer.
 
I know I'm slacking, stop reminding me
 
thank you all
bye
 
6:26 PM
@FarazDurrani here spend an hour on each slide tinkering
 
what, no accept?
 
an hour on each slide :P
 
Sam
@rene Tell me, how's the procrastination going?
 
yes. See you in 4 days :p
 
@Drew I think I have an answer about the tag score with deleted answers
 
6:27 PM
okie
 
For instance EJB or JMS. Each of those is a day at least
If that is really want you want to do.
 
I talked with Martijn Pieters and he said deleted answers do not count towards your tag score. Since the score is recalculated everyday(baring the script crashing) your tag score should go down if you delete a net positive answer.
 
@Sam tell me, how's the fix for Closey going?
 
@NathanOliver thx
 
6:30 PM
yes i understand
 
more like a week at least
 
Sam
@gunr2171 Great, thanks for asking. Just gotta keep poking these hamsters for more power then I'll be done.
 
: )
 
@AndrasDeak o_O
?
@Sam Is closey a boy or a girl?
 
Sam
@Magisch Afaik, girl.
 
6:38 PM
@Sam afaik? aren't you the bot owner?
 
Sam
I mean, "Closey" isn't exactly a guy's name anyway.
@Magisch I contribute to the codebase. @Gunr's the official owner.
 
@Magisch Just because they're related doesn't mean they're intimate...
 
@Sam I once met a guy named Marian
 
@Magisch in the context of "users who want to use your code":P
 
Sam
@Magisch Wth
 
6:39 PM
I also know a guy named Sarah
 
@Magisch you could also meet a lot of guys named Andrea
 
And a girl named Peter
 
I know a guy named Lindsay
 
Sam
I know a guy named rene
 
lol:D
 
6:40 PM
Kim <--- Guy or Girl?
 
I knew a guy named love symbol #2
 
@Tunaki Are you there? I got a answer with a comment of yours in the LQP queue: stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/11465617
delete or nah? (im leaning towards nah)
 
How do you "new a guy"?
 
@BhargavRao Replicator?
 
I didn't know rene was a guy. He is so sweet.
2
 
6:44 PM
rene is a flower, As it is filled with nectar, it is sweet
 
pp_
Is this a request for off-site resources? stackoverflow.com/questions/35730818/…
I kinda like the question.
 
@pp_ Too borad or a resource request
 
@Drew why are you saying that, Bro?
they have a pretty ascii table there, btw
clearly shows effort;)
 
@AndrasDeak the guy has not described what the data driven solution is going to be. It closes as Too Broad
And that is clear from eggyal's comments
It really should be closing as no MCVE but too late for that when I get there and it is at Too Broad 3
 
7:00 PM
@Drew you can still vote according to your opinion
even if it won't show up as such
if you get dragged out to meta, you'll be able to say "sorry, I voted no MCVE, and that it is"
 
eggy tried to pry it out of him. Look at Rev1 and Dagon's comment. The gent simply cant describe the problem. He can't Rubber Duck Debug / Describe
 
Can a 10k flag this as rude? Doesn't seem to like people had time to flag smokeys report as rude as the poster still has its rep
 
@Sam nice. now we have an excusse to write crappy code
 
Sam
@NathanOliver Yep
 
@Ferrybig it is larson-ed
 
7:05 PM
@Ferrybig brad took care of it
 
@AndrasDeak:
 
If anyone fancies a laugh: i.imgur.com/OoKGreL.jpg
 
If you put this in a sqlfiddle I will be happy to help you with it. Just say what output you want. — Drew 35 secs ago
 
nice, Drew on his knees to answer:P
is this a proof of concept?
 
I don't wanna be a jerk.
 
7:09 PM
We could all be making vastly more money if we were less scroupulous.
or less nice
 
@Magisch I thought that's self-evident
 
I just want to learn
 
@coulminer Dont worry, I think mostly "old" users downvoted your answer ;) — Jerry Switalski 1 hour ago
 
@Drew learn instead
 
urge to punch rises
must resist
 
7:12 PM
it's free and better
@Magisch I downvoted just for that
8-months-old baby butt in their face
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JAL
I don't understand that meta post. If anything, old users have an advantage
look at skeet
 
Member for 5 months
Thats me
with 3.5k rep
where is your "I cant get any rep" god now
 
oh I thought I was one of the newest here
@rene left as an exercise for the reader
 
@Magisch: I can beat you. I've been a member for 40 days, and I have 4,619 rep.
 
7:16 PM
@zondo grats
 
you and your silly high-traffic tags
 
case in point is when a moron like me can get there quickly then so can you
 
Absolutely.
 
@zondo 283 answers and 4619 rep? Mine's Ans X 2 and rep X 5 :/
 
JAL
Too broad? Navigating iOS library for Swift 2 or Metal too many questions/requesting how to navigate the docs
 
7:20 PM
I'll just sit in a corner for this conversation...
Not enough imaginary points
#firstWorldProblems
 
depends on your tag
I like Alex O's comment. That was good. Here, let me go edit the Q for you.
 
@Drew Who, me?
 
yeah .... here
 
@Drew What did I say? The XKCD comic?
 
@ryanyuyu if only meta points were real;)
well, as real as primary SO points.
Fake fake internet points are even worse than regular fake internet points
 
JAL
7:29 PM
> It deeply offends me.
I've never met anyone so passionate about voting
 
So passionate, that, 6 minutes, and beyond grace, I changed my mind
 
@AndrasDeak I didn't see the r in shirt as first. got a little worried.
 
7:45 PM
best thing I've done today, go to google translate, copy tony the pony text, and hit the speaker button on the right side to have it read to you.
3
 
JAL
7:59 PM
@gunr2171 Z-A-L-G-Omicron
 
we've been saying it wrong all this time
 
Just ran across a post with multiple questions: stackoverflow.com/q/35731377/5764553
All the questions are related to a single product (for lack of a better term), but they are distinct problems
 
@gunr2171 That is hilarious.
 
if the are distinctly different (as in, one answer post would need to cover many different topics to fully answer the question), I would flag / vote as too broad.
 
One more off-topic question with a bounty, attracting poo. stackoverflow.com/q/30557859/1677912
 
8:04 PM
Are you flagging?
 
I haven't flagged much; give me a minute to wipe the sweat off my palms before I decide to
 
@AndrewMyers i added a stack snippet to the post as well
 
8:17 PM
@Magisch DELETE
and back
 
@gunr2171 Since the first of the two questions has already been answered, would it be better to edit out the second question and ask the OP in a comment to post it separately?
 
I don't know. I need someone with more html / css expertise to judge
usually the answer is "no", but someone who knows the tech better than me might be able to fix all the problems at once
 
The second question might be opinion based
Should I ask someone on a HTML/CSS chat room?
 
that can work, if anyone else here wants to jump in for an opinion too
afk
 
@Mogsdad Madara'd
 
8:32 PM
This question is a pedant paradise: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/317907/1743880
 
@Tunaki and of course as programmers, we have plenty of those.
 
Oh yes we do.
 
6 hours ago, by Magisch
Who would've thought that 120 people are as pendantic as @Tunaki
 
Waiting for Jeff to come by and hit you with a large −. — Madara Uchiha ♦ 10 secs ago
 
And BoltClock made a "your mom" joke....
moderators....got to love them..
 
8:38 PM
Strictly speaking, the OP is correct :D
 
does that mean mods are human(puppies if Jon is watching) after all?
 
I know. it's a battle of "this is the right thing to do" vs "who cares, what's done is done"
 
@NathanOliver No, we're just getting better and better at passing the Turing test.
 
:)
btw the end of your comment makes it look like you are making a face.
 
@NathanOliver −. —
‮Unicode is fun!
 
8:40 PM
wow, that self-star
 
@gunr2171 I could have asked for stars, but that would've been even more lame :d
 
yeah, that's a mild abuse of power
 
@gunr2171 muaha <~ mild maniacal laugh
 
mods, disrupting the peace text order in the starred list
 
@zondo I have a python batch of 20 questions sitting at close vote count of 4. Want it?
batch008 count=20 cv4 is in the beehive
 
8:47 PM
Where can I get a copy of those nice review autocomments which seem to be becoming more common, like this one ? I want to use those too, as they're much nicer than the standard ones. (@Tunaki ?)
 
@JonasCz we have some of them here: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/auto-comments
the goal was to keep that updated, but that requires effort
 
beat me to it :(
 
@JonasCz Offer a few waffles to Lord @Tunaki and he will be pleased.
Funny ans meta.stackoverflow.com/revisions/300471/1 (10k+) Can't provide screenshot as it has a gif :-(
 
404....well I found the waffles
 
@BhargavRao good but it does cross the line
 
8:51 PM
@NathanOliver Yep.
Anyway, need to get up early tomo. Going to bed now.
Bye all o/
 
cya
 
@NathanOliver Oh? ... puts whip back
 
@MadaraUchiha Cool, thanks! I'd put it into my "todo" folder, but can delete it now. Should we flag those questions?
 
@Mogsdad The problem is that it's likely that by the time the flag gets reviewed, the bounty is either awarded or expired.
 
@BhargavRao Awesome answer. Awesome NAA but awesome answer.
 
8:54 PM
@rene :)
 
oooooh
@gunr2171 now I see where the waffles come from:)
 
@JonasCz To tell you the truth, they were kindly given to me by Xavi Lopez. I found his comments awesome and ask if I could use them.
If you want, you can take them from there: gist.github.com/Tunaki/b34071e8b2955d7e1f67
 
JAL
waffle (sorry, gunr already posted)
 
you made a gif and all
 
8:57 PM
@Mogsdad aaaaw thanks:)
 
afk for a meeting, back later
 
don't forget your whip
 
In the words of rene: Say hi to your boss for me.
 
have fun
 
@Tunaki RecordIt be da bomb!
 
8:58 PM
@gunr2171 never ending story...
 
It's incredible how many times we need to debate of whether something is answer or not meta.stackoverflow.com/q/318020/1743880
 
Subject of a meta post in which the consensus is that it is an answer. Shouldn't be deleted.
Definitely shouldn't be deleted for the sake of people looking at that meta post.
 
Why? The meta post quotes the answer.
 
@NathanOliver Because it does attempt to provide an answer; thus it shouldn't be deleted.
Downvoted and commented upon, maybe. Not deleted.
 
@Undo That just means it should not be flagged as NAA. We can still delete low quality answer, we just have to do it manually with 20K votes.
 
9:09 PM
I wouldn't have voted to delete. But now that it's deleted... the OP says "second parameter is expected as String" and that answer says "Check if it is a String datatype.".
Well duh.
I won't enter the undelete / delete cycle for the fun of it
 
Meh, whatever. People abusing deletion irritates me to no end.
 
You're right that outright deleting it like that is a kind of abuse. Especially when Shog's clearly upvoted answer says "it is an answer"
 
@rene boss no-showed
SO, PISSED
 
@gunr2171 fire him
 
if only it worked like that
 
9:16 PM
(is this supposed to happen? no-show by boss?)
not a heads-up even?
 
@AndrasDeak Supposed to != real life, especially in the workplace.
 
@gunr2171 tomorrow double length meeting, to compensate
 
@Undo well, my question sort of included real life as an extension;)
 
and this isn't the only time. he no-shows 1/3 to 1/2 of the time
 
@gunr2171 OK, this is what I meant
That sucks. And do heads roll when employees are absent?
 
9:18 PM
YES
 
Sounds like he's the boss indeed.
 
@AndrasDeak he bi*chs when a person is 1 minute late to his meeting
and here I am, sitting outside his office waiting for him to show up
 
I don't like this kind of people:/
 
18 minutes in
 
Later guys
 
9:20 PM
see you
 
ironically, the link is a 404
 
@gunr2171 Only because of bad formatting. webdesignforums.net/forum/html-css-help/… is the real link.
 
: ( you guys ruin the fun by fixing it (and usually I'm the one killing the fun)
@Tunaki, remove your comments? I added a serious one
 
Meh lost the link
 
cntr + shift + t
 
9:26 PM
Oh there were a couple of tabs in between, but it's gone now :D
 
thanks
28 minutes into my non-existent meeting
I leave work in 30 minutes. I'm going to be really mad if he shows up 10 minutes before
 
ah the wonders of management
 
@Mogsdad would too broad / POB also work?
 
Honestly guys, there are a lot of worse, garbage posts out there to spend 100 flags, 3 times a days if you could. Posts like "Me too!", "Thanks!", etc. Why do you like to split hairs on discussing corner cases like those one? Keep the garbage priority: flag those one instead that slip through the net. It'll be more helpful that discussing endlessly the color of the apple. — Tunaki 1 min ago
 
@Tunaki still obsessed with , I see
 
9:31 PM
@gunr2171 Yeah - but since the opinion being asked for boils down to "would you recommend X", I chose "tool".
 
ok
 
lol
 
@Tunaki My exact thought when I read that. I don't flag those posts... they'll sit with 0 or negative scores on them, and that's enough for me.
 
Yup...
 
@ryanyuyu there is a java batch or 2 available in the beehive
Fresh. Pulsating.
 
9:39 PM
@Drew oh my. Since when do questions fight back? I'll look at them.
 
Tip for future users wishing to avoid having their duplicate answers flagged, but who think they've outsmarted the system by waiting a day between posts and putting in slight layout changes... avoid memorable images! (Two of those are 99.9% identical, the latest is a variation adapted to its own question.)
 
@rene I'm happy to say that you made the final and last vote in the burnination of corners. This. Is. Done.
 
Most memorable images ever...
 
@Tunaki *or it will be, once the tag disappears. Until then... watch out!
 
@Tunaki so will someone change the room synopsis --------> there?
 
9:45 PM
That arrow doesn't point to where it needs to point. I'm not sure where to look. :p
 
there, all we need is a little entropy time
 
You need a RO to do that, which I'm not ;)
 
Where are those RO's when you need them?
 
@Tunaki I know, I just assumed you would bug rene long enough to change it
 
Tricky business. You risk being whipped.
 
9:49 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara I like your switch OS suggestion. That is somewhat evil...
 
> What kind of sort algorithm did I just write?
 
@Mogsdad I have seen some crazy pictures. Dupes. What were they thinking. Some took two wave with mods to delete them
 
Can someone remind me? Are "fdfertporgfdsdfpoir" posts to be flagged abuse, or just NAA?
 
@Mogsdad Yes
 
@rene What can I say? It's what I would do.
 
9:56 PM
@rene Report to smokey, or just flag?
 
@Mogsdad flag abuse
 
Or a few of us can delete it, I guess.
 
that also
 
Better go for abusive. It provides a clean death.
 
But then the user doesn't get the attention from mods... stackoverflow.com/a/35733638/1677912
 
9:58 PM
I still haven't figured out why people and/or bots post these.
 
@Tunaki How do you find these? Are they just sitting in the review queue?
 
I'm guessing Mogs found it in the late answers tool
But then, it appears people don't want to make it die.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I know ... but if you're not yet at the point that you need to have stuff installed you have different problems then to start on a different OS ...
 
pp_
@AlexanderO'Mara For 'fun', I suppose.
 
spam probing is my best guess
 
10:01 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara they are posted so they can be handled and the user get blacklisted?
 
@rene I think he's talking about the users posting those answers
 
Oh
Me tries to be helpful
 
@Tunaki @cricket_007 Yes, the NATO tool. I wade many hours back in time, and find lots of posts that others have not dealt with, every day.
 
@kayess I will get to that c# recruit guy. Just kind of tied up.
 
The only thing I can think of is to get past the first-post queue.
 
10:02 PM
Well I left that screen at least 7 hours ago so
 
So that later posted spam does not end up there.
 
WHILE WERE DISCUSSING, IT IS STILL THERE
 
But random garbage seems sub-optimal for that purpose.
 
gotta love Tuna
 
@Tunaki And I've been only able to put a few minutes in here and there.
 
10:04 PM
Okay. 20kers, do we kill that?
 
@Tunaki yes
I'm out
 
Cya o/
 
@Tunaki Killing what?
 
You missed the funeral of the Smokey report.
 
10:10 PM
Ah I see.
 
Too bad, he? I'm sure you would have loved to attend.
 
^^ OP said oops
 
10:25 PM
Toooooo Late
 
What is your thought on this user's profile page? I mod flagged him last week because he made lots of edits on ancient posts, with the edit summary "please consider for flagging". Apparently a mod gave him an edit ban
 
@Adriaan that is odd, to say the least
 
ignore it
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels @Reimeus there was a comment left for a dupe hammer on this question by Tunaki
 
@Adriaan Could you remove that?
 
10:35 PM
@Tunaki No, sorry. It's after the deletion period
 
We shouldn't rule out users. Okay to ask for feedback if you have a question but that's it.
Is there a RO in the place? All sleeping those slackers.
Waffle for this guy ---------------------------------------------------------------v
 
the cv-pls?
 
@gunr2171 my huge quote
 
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