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5:00 PM
he stopped though. Must have run into an interesting Swing Q stackoverflow.com/questions/35530765
and got distracted
I'll tell ya it's like herding cats around here. Meow.
 
@Drew whoever came up with that idiom has clearly never owned a laser pointer
 
that dog still eating raw chicken ?
 
ROFL @Drew that's exactly what happened, only with this one stackoverflow.com/questions/35533165/…
 
Let's recruit that CodeApprentice
 
what dog?
 
5:05 PM
@user1803551 I know you better than yourself :P
 
what a memory
 
@Drew that was so funny when i read it. i was like "He's on to me!"
 
@Drew so my dog? :p yes, he still eats raw chicken
 
somewhere there is a very hungry dog in Canada
 
why is that? did i miss something?
 
5:09 PM
@Tunaki Does commenting on answers like that push them up some kind of review queue somewhere or somesuch?
 
@mech :D. There's a special tool accessible to people having more than 10k of reputation that lists all new answers to old questions.
That's how I found those posts.
 
Gotcha
 
user177800
@Shadow source code in a word document; really? wow you found a jewel there!
 
Plop!
 
Hiya o/
 
5:21 PM
I have 220 downvotes on answers
all that sweet rep im never going to get back
 
@Magisch How do you restrict the downvotes view to answers only?
 
@Kyll no idea, I had no life and counted
 
o_o
 
Back On KB o/
 
5:29 PM
Bcoz screenshots are too mainstream
 
Literal kid gloves, I guess?
 
@Tunaki It's ok. Jon Skeet's onto it. :)
 
@Tunaki u wot m8
u avin a giggle over there m8
 
cool Q. Just not here
 
@Tunaki someone answered it
asdf
rages incoherently
 
5:34 PM
Answer deleted. Earned a new shiny badge in the process.
 
>_>
<_<
of all the tosh you could answer why that and why so obviously not correctly
 
@Tunaki One reason why I hadn't downvoted that
 
lol
 
@Ferrybig On your answer, it shouldn't say "your spam flag makes sure the question will be closed as spam properly if its real spam." but "your spam flag makes sure the question will be deleted as spam properly if it's real spam." no? (verb and ')
 
I think this is the first time I've seen P.S.S.S. used non-ironically inverse matrix Python3 mpi4py EOFError: EOF when reading a line
(Wait, shouldn't it be P.P.P.S.?)
 
5:42 PM
This needs an edit.
 
Working on it, yerp
 
@Kyll thats indead better
 
Ah you are? Okay.
 
@mech Depends if there's 3 Scriptums I guess
 
@mech A typo there with i in between the P and the others would have been fun.
 
5:51 PM
@mech edit approved. I just removed the too chatty "Thanks" :).
 
@Tunaki Sweet. Didn't realize that I was supposed to be removing the standard "thanks!" line... Oops. gazes back at the past hundred edits
 
!!/alive
 
@PraveenKumar Of course
 
Then why no spam messages? :O
 
I stopped my spam bot. Do you want me to turn it on?
 
5:54 PM
@Tunaki Please proceed.
Can't wait for SD to ping me again. :D
 
@mech I seriously think that the OP is using Python2
 
@BhargavRao Their print() statements, though
 
@mech Nah, the code is in Py3, but the interpreter is 2.
 
@BhargavRao Okay, I've actually never tried that. Wouldn't he need to import some things (namely, those prints) from __future__ or somesuch? I didn't think 2.7 supported them by default
Though nevermind, since the problem is erroring out before it reaches the print statements.
 
@mech You can use print with brackets, but the second one there will be printed as a tuple. (Does str(tuple) <--- Which is kinda different from the rest)
 
6:03 PM
Every second I search for a dupe, three answers come... stackoverflow.com/q/35539768/1743880
 
@mech Yep! Exactly! input will give EOF when it is piped in Py2.
 
Finally!!
 
@Tunaki don't think there's much to do about it :/
 
Hmm, Upload File
 
Idli Dosa Vada Sambar Chutney
 
6:05 PM
sigh
 
@Tunaki Well one of the answers maybe could be avoided....
 
I flagged Graphic Designer - Laptop as off-topic -> belongs in SuperUser... Now that I think about it, though, this would be closed in SuperUser because it's about shopping. What flag would be the best call, instead?
 
@mech Spam
 
Spam? Why?
 
Out of votes hours ago. Must be Sunday, assignments due tomorrow:(
 
6:16 PM
@PraveenKumar I thought spam was specifically about advertising and/or undisclosed ties.
 
@mech Er...
Sorry...
 
@mech Hi mech I just want to say hi
 
I flagged it as follows:
 
@PetterFriberg Heya! o/
 
Not a StackOverflow kinda question, at the same time, not spam too.
 
6:17 PM
Spam? stackoverflow.com/a/35539978/4099593 Random link, Has Keys, etc
 
Guys, StackOverflow flag page is down... Anyone experiencing the same?
Yes
That's a malware.
Spam it guys.
 
You sure?
 
@BhargavRao Msizap.exe is a legit application... When provided by Microsoft. See the MSDN Resource. Kill that answer with fire.
 
You can't answer with an exe as answer....
 
@BhargavRao Ninja'd you on that one: stackoverflow.com/q/35539947/1743880
 
6:21 PM
@Tunaki I was checking for hidden spam ;-;
 
:D
 
The other there was a fail spam attempt; it was not in markdown, So it was not seen
 
@PraveenKumar Can confirm. It's down.
 
@Tunaki :(
 
Who starred this? :p
6
 
6:24 PM
I can access it :/
Refreshed and can still access it i.stack.imgur.com/Ku03J.png
 
You do realize the percentage does not add up to the count of flags you injected in the DOM? :p
 
It does. I have a few declined spam flags :P
 
:D
 
@PraveenKumar Do you have delv votes left? [corners] is available for burnination.
 
@BhargavRao Have a lot...
Okay..
 
6:29 PM
@PraveenKumar Go through the delvQ. Or the tag
 
Del 1.
Wow...
I guess I can delete everything.
 
If you see some that you don't agree with deletion, alert.
 
Yeah. True
 
@PraveenKumar I made a batch earlier. Don't know if it's still live. Let me go get it. There: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/28878884#28878884
 
6:31 PM
But actually, all those [corners] that were useful have been retagged :P
 
Deeted...
Gave Del-V for all the cornets.
@AlexanderO'Mara done.
@AlexanderO'Mara LoL.. I do have that theme with me. :D
 
#8 is still live. Should we keep it?
 
I think one of the corners will be the challenge to delete as it needs 10 delv-votes
 
The highly-upvoted duplicate? I didn't vote on that. Still not sure about deletion.
 
@Tunaki Suited for CR. But can be kept.
@Tunaki I am for deletion of that because of the answers. They are just pointers to the dupe question.
Maybe rene should be told bout that ^
 
6:41 PM
I voted to re-open, I'll edit the question to remove the corners tag
 
Still seems kind-of broad to me, but the answers are pretty good. I also reversed my vote.
 
@rene The Reopen Queue is undecided on that one for now: stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/11350934
 
a lot of the remaining Qs can be retagged with . i can go through the remains and do it after closing is done
 
Can I have some people check on the pending edits here. Came uop in this meta post: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/317371/tag-wiki-bulk-editing
 
on it
The user is not just rewording to "Resources". I looked at the first ones and they are really improving a bit the wiki by adding links and related tags
"a bit"
 
6:49 PM
Yeah, a bit ...
 
The real question is: is it okay to add related tags in a wiki?
 
c# anyone?
 
What does This is not an audit. mean on the suggested edit page?
@rene ^^^
 
@PraveenKumar I dunno? I never see that
 
The edits to the excerpts should all be rejected though.
 
6:55 PM
@rene I have a userscript that does it.
So... Lemme see who's the author of it.
 
@PraveenKumar Probably exactly that, that it's not S.O. testing you to see if you're paying attention (when in the review queues, sometimes you get dummy questions to calibrate you)
 
Finds real post scores in the review queues and puts it under the assumed score, also signals if it is an audit.
@TinyGiant Kindly tell?
@mech Yes...
 
@Eminem Not if you have a programming question, try the c# room instead. If you want me to find a duplicate of your question I'll take it here
 
@rene no one in the c# room :(
 
@PraveenKumar stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/11351644 Thanks for the comment.
 
6:58 PM
@Gothdo Ha ha ha...
 
@Eminem it is weekend give them a break
 
@BhargavRao Same situation here <-----
 
@rene Rejected all edits to excerpts. They were really bad. Concerning wiki themselves, not sure.
 
OK, do we you write an answer to that extent?
I rejected a bunch as well
@Eminem I'll hop into the c# room and see if I can at least listen to your question, join me there
 
7:01 PM
I'm there already
 
user4639281
@PraveenKumar What would you like to know?
 
@TinyGiant I am seeing this on the review queues: This is not an audit.
What does that mean?
 
@rene Don't what to say about the "related tags parts"...
 
user4639281
That it ain't an audit
2
 
7:06 PM
@PraveenKumar Link?
 
user4639281
But, if magisch is correct, then it's broken.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara You need the userscript.
 
@TinyGiant Actually, it is audit designed to see if you're paying attention to the result of the auto-detecting audit script.
 
@TinyGiant So what does audit mean, and also I don't think it works, because of the AJAX stuff.
 
user4639281
Yeah, it's broken.
 
7:07 PM
@PraveenKumar Oh, some magic audit warning?
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Yes.
@TinyGiant :( :(
Hey it seems working..
This is an audit!
 
user4639281
Oh it is?
 
user4639281
Hmm..
 
user4639281
I may be looking at something weird.
 
Congratulations!

This was only a test, designed to make sure you were paying attention. You passed. Downvoting, editing, flagging as "very low quality", or voting to close are all appropriate actions in this case.
And it says correctly: This is an audit!
You need to swap the colours..
This should actually be FLASHING RED.
 
user4639281
7:09 PM
Nope, they didn't break it yet.
 
@PraveenKumar Can you give a link to this userscript?
 
user4639281
@Magisch As far as I can tell, you're wrong. Where is it not working?
 
@TinyGiant i.imgur.com/dwTxiRC.png - Ha ha ha.
 
@TinyGiant Latest chrome, tampermonkey
tested with or without other user scripts
 
@Magisch Same to same.
@Magisch without?
 
user4639281
7:10 PM
Errors in the console?
 
What [the stuff that bull puts from back], they are hiding -8 votes.
 
user4639281
Is it doing nothing at all, or what?
 
@TinyGiant Im not a webdev, how do I open that again?
 
user4639281
ctrl+shift+j
 
7:11 PM
yeap
bunch of errors
 
user4639281
Screenshot it?
 
@Magisch Screenshot?
 
@TinyGiant F12 also works
 
user4639281
Didn't know that
 
7:12 PM
@TinyGiant Is that something you can fix?
 
Doesn't look like .... Er... This is not from this userscript.
 
(I really have no clue of JS im sorry)
 
Screenshot plz?
 
@rene you on that Meta answer?
 
Don't copy paste.
Use imgur.com
 
7:13 PM
(program):42 Syntax error @ 'Thing Checker'!
 
@Tunaki nope
 
me neither xD.
 
me neither xD.
 
user4639281
@Magisch Still loading the page. Also, reload the page with the console open so I can get actual line numbers.
 
@Magisch Don't copy paste.
 
user4639281
7:14 PM
Oh, yeah I see, hold on
 
@TinyGiant Er? Is it from yours?
 
user4639281
Yeah, I faqed up
 
Not sure what extra info that gives you but ok
 
user4639281
I got it, didn't have it in strict mode
 
user4639281
 
7:16 PM
don't one box please
grrr
 
user4639281
^^ That
 
My typings skills
 
That was an audit btw @TinyGiant
 
user4639281
Please don't onebox images.
 
Uh, that is my task, you were inactive, remember
 
user4639281
7:17 PM
Oh, yeah, that's right.
 
sorry
 
;)
 
This onebox stuff is annoying
why can't a chatroom turn it off
 
rene This onebox stuff is annoying
 
user4639281
@Magisch We've asked that before.
 
7:18 PM
Good point
 
Yeah agree ;)
 
Its effectively not allowed here anyways
so why is there not an option for ROs to just not allow it
 
user4639281
Anyways, they probably aren't going to fix the hole because they built the entire audit system around the hole.
 
user4639281
It would require that they fix the audit system first, which may happen eventually, but isn't likely to happen any time soon.
 
Its almost like audits are supposed to be somewhat cheesed
 
7:21 PM
@Tunaki you are still not writing an answer? I might dupe hammer it against that other meta post you found?
 
just opening the link is enough to cheese audits
 
@rene I'm not. Left a comment. Don't have enough strong opinion on that one.
Maybe hammer it yeah.
 
@Magisch as always I wrote an meta answer about that topic: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/287670/…
 
@rene Im done trying to push change in the audit system
moving a feature request through here is almost impossible without massive amounts of continous upvotes and meta attention for months
 
Noooooo, don't give up, ever....
 
7:24 PM
Thats a downside to the "everyone is a moderator" model
I was used to moderating sites with a few dozen mods
and usually when I suggested something it moved in less then a week
 
SO is too big for that
both community wise and company wise
 
minecraftforums.net isn't exactly small either
 
user4639281
There was a meta post somewhere about the lifetime of feature requests.
 
yet my proposal to change the infraction system moved through in 2 days
 
@TinyGiant on MSE,yeah
 
user4639281
7:25 PM
Basically if it doesn't have a status declined, and it has 20+ votes then it is on the dev radar.
2
 
and still needs 6 to 8 somethings
 
Define "dev radar"
 
given how many wildly popular and easy to implement changes haven't been done at all I find that hard to believe
even the "disagree" button for audits
there were like 3 upvoted threads about it already
 
@TinyGiant how do you know?
 
I feel like that the moderation tools to handle questions just don't scale up with the amount of questions that are coming in.
 
user4639281
7:26 PM
But they have to go through massive review processes, and the end product may not be what you requested, but something similar.
 
user4639281
@user1803551 The meta post somewhere about the lifetime of feature requests.
 
Writing a trello card is no effort at all
 
There is a fundamental breaking point in the self moderation system
 
But then it starts
 
with increasing popularity exponentially more people posting and answering trash come in then people who care about site quality
because a small SO specifically attracted the latter
 
user4639281
7:27 PM
@Magisch Easy to implement, and easy to agree on for the dev team are two entirely different things.
 
user4639281
They're like meta on crack.
 
For example, that one I'm interested in was asked 3 months ago: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/312246/1743880
+24, not status-declined.
 
I wonder though
 
The thing, you don't even know if the post has been read or not.
 
with all the talk about community choice
 
user4639281
7:28 PM
@Tunaki You could script that.
 
why is there discussion among the devs or even SE staff if the community decidedly wants something
shouldn't something that the community agrees it wants just be implemented? Or do devs have a veto somehow?
 
@TinyGiant If you can put up a script, I'm sure @BhargavRao would be very interested also!!
 
user4639281
@Tunaki We've complained about that twice recently, both times they said they were going to interact more, they do for a little bit then stop.
 
user4639281
Too bad I have two full time jobs now.
 
@Tunaki i suggested to shog to have a "read" tag, but didn't get a reply
exactly for that reason
 
7:30 PM
@Magisch the content and topic is community choice. The tooling definitely isn't
 
user4639281
@user1803551 If it has the bug or feature request tag, a dev has seen it.
 
So why then do I need to convince community AND staff to change something in the tooling
is that some kind of weird double veto system
 
@TinyGiant Script how? Auto refresh after a timegap?
 
Community is the popularity vote and staff is the shareholder value vote
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao web sockets.
 
7:31 PM
@TinyGiant i wish i could believe that. a lot of small and easy to fix wordings in help pages were suggested and they didnt move for many months. if anywone read that they'd take the 30 seconds to fix it
 
I guess im a hopeless idealist
profit and shareholder value makes me want to vomit
 
@TinyGiant waffles
 
user4639281
lulz
 
Ah, then I dunno bout that :-(
 
user4639281
@user1803551 The devs definitely have a lot on their plates, and sure they could probably do more, but they currently do a hell of a lot.
 
7:32 PM
Part of why I left as mod on MCF was that curse started openly influencing site decisions
 
@Magisch sure, I'm that also but I'm also realistic
 
telling us to ban less to attract more people and show a less hostile image
 
@Tunaki Also realized that it is 1 less than a shiny silver
 
true :D
Want me to create a sock-puppet to fix that? :)
 
@Magisch user profiles mean traffic and money
 
7:33 PM
@TinyGiant not saying they aren't. i'm saying there are bugs and FRs that they don't see, at least until i see a proof otherwise
 
user4639281
Dubl post
 
I have a problem with a open profit motive
really
 
@user1803551 I'm wondering the same yeah.
 
thats why im getting so fed up with certain SE employees too
 
There are a lot of FR and bug report on Meta.
 
7:34 PM
I can see why they argue the way they do
 
@Tunaki Lol, try it out :P Wait did you do it really?
 
user4639281
@user1803551 They have an internal bug tracker / fr tracker which uses those tags, and shows them when something has been read or not, so nothing goes without being read, they may just deem it to be too trivial, or be waiting for more community support.
 
@BhargavRao nah
 
user4639281
On the flip side, if it has to do with wording in the help center, I would just get shog's attention.
 
@Tunaki Lol. Thank God!
 
7:36 PM
@Tunaki i will try to dig up my suggestion to shog later. @rene posted a link to a mete.SE question which got status declined asking for a lot of synchronization, don't remember which one it was
 
Is there a post somewhere that recap what mods can do and update on the site?
 
user4639281
rene got a status-declined? No way
 
@TinyGiant any link on that internal tracker that automatically adds all bugs and FRs?
@TinyGiant fixed :P
 
@Magisch It is very simple. They are a business and have 150 staff to pay. That's a lot of bucks each month. The visionary of Spolsky and Atwood created a better platform then much of the other crap sites out there. I love the model. I take the shareholder stuff for granted.
 
Because if I want to make a feature-request, I'll try to make doable by mods so that it is simpler to achieve.
 
user4639281
7:37 PM
It has been mentioned on mSO and mSE a couple times, nothing concrete though, just assuring us that is it has either of those tags (I believe support as well) then it will be seen.
 
I would much rather a site with no monetary incentives or gains
 
if possible of course
 
that means absolutely no ads and no value of any kind in terms of money
like wikipedia
 
user4639281
@Tunaki Mods can't edit anything in the help center or implement anything
 
But moderating on wikipedia is its whole own can of worms
 
7:38 PM
@TinyGiant I know. But what can they do exactly?
 
@Magisch Er what?
 
Is this documented somewhere?
 
@Magisch sure, that would be great. Go make one. It is not easy, at least it wasn't back then. maybe the times will change for the better
 
@TinyGiant mods can edit quite a few pages in the help center
 
@Tunaki not exactly
 
7:40 PM
@rene I have neither drive nor skills nor motivation to do anything of that sort really
I can barely be bothered to go to work every day
 
Hmm, life isn't that hard, make sure you have some fun
That makes things easier
 
By all accounts I should be enjoying life alot
I get paid to do something I dont detest and have 35 hour weeks
yet im still feeling like im living for work and selling my life with that
 
Move to France, it's not far :D
 
it's tres jolie
 
Do you have any hobbies that don't involve yelling at people over TCP/IP? That helps me a lot. Write a book, learn to make mead, or somesuch.
 
7:44 PM
fact doesn't change that most of my adult life will be spent making money for some reason
 
Stay away from France though, they like stabbing foreigners with stale baguettes
 
My ISP yell-throttled me
 
It annoys me
 
Being stabbed by stale baguettes? Yeah it's kinda annoying but you get used to it
3
 
Thats why I detest monetary interests so much. They will be the chains I will be chained to for the rest of my life
there is nothing I can do to change it
 
7:46 PM
This has become the self-help room for Magisch...
 
@Magisch go full monk
 
@Magisch move to new brunswick :D
 
@Magisch yes you can, but not now. Use the security of money you have now to plan your next step.
Dare to dream
 
Im getting needlessly existential over moderator tools again
 
anyone wants to answer meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/315217/… or help push it?
 
7:49 PM
Not sure what ^ even is
 
@Magisch You may want to look into FI/RE if you hate working. The idea is to minimize your working years and maximize your "choose your own adventure" ones.
 
that looks like some esoteric semi-spam
 
@Magisch Just get to 25K first so you have all tools available before you judge
 
@rene Im not used to beeing limited like this when cleaning stuff up
Its a paradigm shift for me to not be able to close stuff on my own or ban stuff on my own or having a limit on reviews or CVs
It gets frustrating
 
Get a break then, I've done this for almost 4 years, never bothered me
 
7:54 PM
@rene Did you even went to the Analytics page? Never been there. xD
 
user4639281
@user1803551 AFAIK only CM's and Devs can edit the help center, those people are also mods, but regular mods can't do that.
 
@Tunaki I'm not there yet, stop teasing me
 
@TinyGiant i asked madara, i don't remember the precise answer but he said they can change some of the pages
 

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