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12:00 AM
gimme teh closevotez
 
@Tunaki I read that wrong.
 
@Kyll did you read it as "gold ass"? :p
 
@cimmanon Won't tell! =p
@pp_ Don't forget to [tag:cv-pls] for our stalking tracking bots!
(Demonstration) [tag:cv-pls] Request for Off-Site Resource Where to start interacting python and web sites? - Alexandry Moreira - 2016-02-14 23:05:47Z
^ Like that. We also have a bunch of scripts to generate the review requests, you can check them in the SOCVR GitHub repo
 
pp_
okay, thank you for telling me ...
 
No problem =D Are you new around here? I don't remember seeing you before
 
12:12 AM
i think hes been told before, but he probably forgot :p
 
pp_
I have my account for 16 days now
No, I haven't been told
 
Woah, you're even new to SO! Welcome! \o/
@Louis Waiting for OP confirmation before voting. Congrats on the wiki.
@pp_ Well, you can check our UserScripts over there. We use them a lot to make moderating easier and faster.
 
pp_
Are new members such a rare occurence?
 
@pp_ New to Stack Overflow and the room, yes. Most newcomers have been on SO for a while before they come to SOCVR.
 
Note to self: Do not corrupt newcomer with world view
 
12:18 AM
@Drew Note to you: Avoid talking to anyone not used to our insanity =p
sigh 4 answers and the last edit made it even more POB
Pretty sure there's a burninate notice for already...
 
@pp_ var = None ?
clear the var
 
Weird. I couldn't find any for
 
pp_
@Drew Yes but he could also just assign the new value.
 
sometimes it's about just throwing the kitchen sink out there. The next comes around, gets excited about it. Upvotes
The votes come later
 
pp_
12:33 AM
I edited my answer because the del advice was BS
It's a duplicate anyway ...
 
newsflash
NPE in Java auf deutsch too funny
 
1:11 AM
Morning
 
Sam
Morning
 
However, when I say "Morning", everyone says "Night" then. Blame the time travel.
 
Sam
Technically, it is morning here.
 
Technically, also here
Weekly VPN check: How's it going @KevinGuan?
 
Yo Kevin have you met pp_ yet, a fellow Pythonian
 
1:21 AM
@Sam Yeah, technically.
@Kyll Wait, is "Weekly VPN check" a thing?
 
@KevinGuan Well, it is now
 
@Drew Huh? Maybe I have met him, but I forgot who is he.
@Kyll Writing a bot to answer it automatically...
 
@KevinGuan He's new around here and SO! \o/
 
@Kyll The bot: Yes it's working very good \o/
 
Yay \o/
Now I really have to sleep
(No more battery, too lazy to plug computer)
Bonne nuit!
 
Sam
1:23 AM
Night!
 
@Kyll Oh, let me see who is him. Night o/
 
Now actually going to sleep. Night!
 
Sam
Cya
 
Sam
1:38 AM
I'm gonna hit the hay too, night all.
 
Rob
2:12 AM
@Sam @MsYvette I've added a new users.txt file for permissions. Please put the following into users.txt in the bin folder:
[
{"UserId":563532,"PermissionLevel":0},
{"UserId":3956566,"PermissionLevel":0},
{"UserId":2246344,"PermissionLevel":0},
]
Oops, wrong channel sorry
 
2:39 AM
@Shadow Thanks for showing up. We are a team of close voters. Could use a guy.
 
2:57 AM
I mean, so do you guys go around dropping close votes on everyone's questions?
 
hiya Tim how ya been
We could use some closers or any level-headed closers for that matter regardless of what tag they jump around to
Many of us frequent a bunch of tags
 
typo? the guy didnt import the file that has the stuff he wanted to use: stackoverflow.com/questions/35400445/…
 
of course Tim I never knew you to see a question that wasn't worth keeping open but who's remembering that Chemistry question :P
@TimBiegeleisen Here is a start on this one:
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Q: MySQL - Select new entries only for every day

usert4jju7I'm trying to find the new tasks assigned to employees per day. The fiddle is here An employee may cycle between say 4 tasks A,B,C & D. On 1st Jan, he may get assigned task 'A', on 2nd Jan he may get assigned task 'B', 5th Jan task 'C', 6th Jan task 'D' & say on Jan 14th he gets assigned task 'A...

That question is close-able but we won't (or can't)
It was close-able, but because we don't go around dumping close votes on everyone's question as you said, I gave the guy 10 minutes of my life.
 
3:32 AM
@Drew That chemistry question was a real bummer...lost like 30 points when a moderator closed it :-(
 
like you need the rep :P
I must say I was impressed. I never knew the molecular weight of NaNO3 is 84.99 grams
 
Feel free to edit the question, comment, answer.
 
3:56 AM
batch11 count=12 cv4 is in the beehive
@TimBiegeleisen @Shadow ^^^^ if your close votes are interested and they are so deserving
@TimBiegeleisen there are hundreds and hundreds (more like thousands) of untouched mysql questions I could filter for you that are from decent rep users or other criteria
hey @JAL there's some in the beehive
don't know the status atm
 
user177800
@TimBiegeleisen can you provide a link I want to see it now!?
 
you wanna see that chemistry link ?
I'll show it to you if Tim agrees
 
user177800
I have been downvoting people that answer obvious dupes but I have decided that a better way to spend my rep is to give it away to those that are working to clean stuff up. If anyone deserving is within 1000 points of close vote privileges or delete vote privileges be sure and point them out to me when I am around. I figure giving away 1000 points to someone that deserves it is better than down voting 500 peoples answers that do not care.
 
user177800
@Drew yes I am curious now...
 
4:12 AM
Feel free to share the link
 
Actually, a large portion of Gordon Linoff's rep comes from SQL questions which are arguably dupes...I seldom see him close a question.
I guess closing a question as a duplicate is almost a philosophical thing.
If a question requires a simple SELECT and JOIN, then of course there are thousands of other questions in the SO database which do this.
 
In mysql it is almost an impossible thing unless it is PHP related and then they do it
 
But, if the user really cannot figure it out, then maybe this makes it not a dupe FOR THAT PERSON.
Actually, the chemistry question would probably have been a duplicate, even on the chemistry site :-)
But I was having a slow day, I needed some green.
 
Gordon has about a 1.2 or something I forget ratio on mysql iirc
This is probably because he is so brilliant that he help just that guy, and everyone else is confused
Whereas in Python one could mop up
And Gordon almost never comes back for Q&A
 
JAL
4:17 AM
@Drew Thank you sir, helping my sister with her Java homework but I'll get on it as soon as I'm done. Hopefully within the hour.
 
Actually I think that is because the OP is so confused they don't bother
 
pp_
Questions are often just slightly different but different enough to be confusing to the OP. And some original answers are so outdated that they would need heavy editing (you don't really get rep for that).
 
@TimBiegeleisen do you think this is Too Broad or would you answer it? stackoverflow.com/q/35223790
btw @Shadow bagged this one stackoverflow.com/q/35400456
There are people here with 200k 300k rep I imagine that answer dupes. Just sayin'
I don't think there is anything inherently evil with it. Everyone has a different view.
But when they are real easy dupes, those Golds could just dupe hammer them and be done with it. Instead, we get litter.
 
JAL
woot just earned my eight Steward badge!
4
 
@SmokeDetector sd postgone
 
JAL
4:34 AM
ok, going through your swift questions now Drew
holy shit there are a lot
ok, I'll start from the bottom
 
I believe @EricD. was working them
 
@Eran is a big dupe-overlooking, in my opinion
 
JAL
@Drew @EricD. went through the swift batch from the bottom up, VTC'd everything except the first two questions, which I'll get to on Tuesday if they still haven't been closed yet.
 
batch12 count=12 cv3,4 is in the beehive
Thanks
 
JAL
thank you!
 
4:58 AM
@JarrodRoberson that was a classic java question you posted last nite
 
user177800
5:52 AM
@Drew the DropWizard one? The documentation on some of the DropWizard stuff is opaque as hell.
 
user177800
@Drew thanks, Timeit is cool and impressive that you knew the answer, but too bad it is way off-topic
 
user177800
out of votes for 24 hours :-(
 
6:17 AM
Anyone else think that should be burniated? The tag adds no information about the question. It is almost asking to be tagged in a spam question.
 
@intboolstring If it means less questions like this, yes! (And even if it doesn't.)
 
Should I make a meta post on this tomorrow?
 
Probably.
 
Ok. I am not over 10k rep, so I don't know how many deleted posts there have been tagged with . Can you see that because you are over 10k?
Because the deleted posts are the ones that are the advertisements and I see those on spam a lot.
 
No, I can only see deleted posts if I have a direct link. I can't search them, unless they are mine.
 
6:30 AM
No, you can only see deleted posts if you have an url to them or if they are owned by you with the deleted:1 search term
 
Ok. I don't have access so I don't know.
 
@MadaraUchiha We're ready for the next tag burnination. Can you feature corners for a day on meta?
 
Maybe a SEDE query can search for deleted questions?
 
Ok. I will make a for tomorrow. (If anyone else wanted to do that and give me credit, that is ok)
 
@AlexanderO'Mara yes, but the tags field is empty
 
6:32 AM
Well, that rules that out.
 
Ok. Signing off for the night.
 
Good Night!
 
Back
 
@Pang Need one more vote to migrate to meta, where we can close it for real. stackoverflow.com/questions/35400688/…
 
7:02 AM
@AlexanderO'Mara one of the examples used is closed by members of this room
@MsYvette can you re-visit this as it comes up as an example in this meta post. cc @Mogsdad @JarrodRoberson @Tushar
Do notice that the example from last week you linked to was cv-pls-ed by the SOCVR room. I've asked our members to re-visit and if needed explain their reasoning for closing that particular question. — rene 1 min ago
That question is re-opened now, btw
@AlexanderO'Mara we better find a good dupe or it would get rejected as a migration
 
@rene Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
 
It is too late, I'm afraid
 
What happens if it gets rejected?
Is it still closed on the other site?
Well, if it gets rejected, I'm up for delete voting it if it scores low enough.
 
7:25 AM
Yeah, it goes back to main now
@AlexanderO'Mara it is now here
 
Gotta wonder why 2 people thought that question was up-vote worthy...
 
they agree with the sentiment
afk
 
7:43 AM
Is it just me, or is SO being unreliable?
 
7:54 AM
@AlexanderO'Mara You mean SD? The gone and postgone commands are flaky indeed.
@AlexanderO'Mara Closed as dup 5 seconds ago.
 
@NisseEngström No, I mean I entered k before postgone, but the first one failed, and it retryed again after the second one.
SO seemed to be acting slow and/or unreliable in general, kind-of like earlier during scheduled maintenance, but it seems ok now.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara How do you know it failed?
 
Because the order of his messages changed, he posted k before postgone
 
Oh, I think I am unconfused now.
 
8:18 AM
@NisseEngström It had a little, failed to connect retrying message.
 
user177800
@rene sorry out of votes of all kinds for the next 16 hours!
 
T J
8:41 AM
 
@TJ - I can only give 1.. :P
 
T J
well shoot it with whatever you have ._.
 
done
 
T J
gj *hands over some cookies
 
Hi o/
@TJ Use [tag:cv-pls] while asking for cv. It helps us list all the questions that need close votes.
 
T J
8:58 AM
ok will do
 
@TheLostMind Err, you forgot that tag :/
 
user3956566
@rene I think it's a non repro error.. iand stand by my CV
 
I was looking over the posts of the user mentioned by SD in this report. Is this answer of theirs plagiarising this answer of another user? Code is IDENTICAL.
 
Yes true.
 
Both answers are also very low quality btw, it doesn't even explain what the code does
 
9:14 AM
@BhargavRao - thanks.
 
@BhargavRao postgone
 
@Ferrybig - At least the original does say
> You are using the wrong input classes for your buttons.
 
@Ferrybig these css classes seem to be standard. I would not ptovide a detailed explanation for a simple join in sql either.
 
I don't see it as a good explanation, but that may be related that I never really touched bootstrap. I would see it as a better explanation if it said "In bootstrap, buttons should use class-xxx for things that look like buttons" because that would also help new users who see the question at first that they require class X on their button
 
This "answer" should be a comment: stackoverflow.com/a/35405488/5389997
The topic itself is likely to turn out to be a duplicate, as well
 
user3956566
9:26 AM
when yr working on group work at what point is it insulting to come in and refactor someone's work to apoint it's unrecognisable
 
stackoverflow.com/q/35405407/5389997 is a duplicate question
 
32 mins ago, by Bhargav Rao
@TJ Use [tag:cv-pls] while asking for cv. It helps us list all the questions that need close votes.
 
@MsYvette Er, what?
 
I just got ninja'd...
 
@BhargavRao thanks, I'm a newbie to this :)
 
user3956566
9:31 AM
@PraveenKumar if you're working on a project in a group and someone completely rewrites all your work to a point of deleting classes and rewriting everything it's pretty insulting.
 
@MsYvette Agreed! :(
 
user3956566
@PraveenKumar I had to pick my mum up to take her to a funeral and it's like I don't exist in my own project.
 
user3956566
anyway I'm going offline.
 
@MsYvette See you.
:O
 
@PraveenKumar I am not sure if that is spam, it looks like the url in the post is just correct to the website of the defect product in question. Its only that the answer is a bit low quality
 
9:34 AM
@PraveenKumar I don't see how this: stackoverflow.com/a/34975272/3933332 should be spam. I don't know anything about opencart, but it reads like an attempt to answer the question
 
Gut feeling. Anyways. Removed it.
 
The link is from the forum
 
There's no OpenBayPro in the question.
@BhargavRao More than 2 mins :(
 
Yeah
 
Question now is if this SO user is the same as the one who posted the post on the other forum, otherwise he just completely copied the post from there.
 
T J
9:42 AM
praveen and bhargav where do you work ._.
ignore if that question is creepy
 
T J
ah I see (y)
that's kannada in your profile right?
 
Yep. It is mentioned there.
 
9:58 AM
Not even a mod can make that answer a community wiki: stackoverflow.com/posts/11227902/revisions
 
Revision history appears to be broken, @AndrasDeak. Ah... Looks like the "un-CW-everything" tool forgets to record it. Oh well, it's rare. — Shog9 ♦ Jan 29 at 14:22
 
T J
10:10 AM
What's smoke detector tag for?
 
Mornimg
 
T J
thanks
 
@kayess Mornimg
Yes it is
 
Flagged both...
Bhargav, why aren't you flagging man?
 
10:17 AM
I've flagged em both.
 
@BhargavRao Yay! :D
Lag! Lag!! Lag!!!
 
Is there any particular reason that Smokey ats Praveen now? (just curious)
 
SD loves Praveen so much, that he pings him every time ;)
(@JonClements Nah, see: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/wiki/… the notify command)
 
@JonClements Yes, she is in love with me now! :P
 
Ahhh.... thanks :p
Ahhh.... thanks :p
 
10:25 AM
Ha ha... :D
 
user3956566
anyone here done a lot of collborative work?
 
@MsYvette Me! :)
A lot using Git... :)
 
@MsYvette depends, using some sort of source control?
 
user3956566
yes I need some advice
 
user3956566
github
 
user3956566
10:28 AM
I need to know what is acceptable etiquette when collaborating
 
user3956566
@Rizier123 hi \o
 
Hey :)
@MsYvette Have you seen: guides.github.com ?
 
user3956566
@Rizier123 can I get your opinion?
 
@BhargavRao Nopes. Wrong...
Feb 4 at 12:29, by Praveen Kumar
!!/notify 41570 stackoverflow.com
 
10:31 AM
@MsYvette Just ask, I don't use GitHub very frequently, but someone here will probably be happy to help you.
 
user3956566
@Rizier123 it
 
user3956566
it's more about project etiquette, if a project owner adds someone as a collaborator.. is it ok for that collaborator to refactor ALL the project owners code when the owner is offline. No consultation.
 
@Rizier123 I guess this is more suited for you :-) meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/316886/… (else I will go ahead)
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao I'm trying to understand what the etiquette is of group work
 
@MsYvette Damn, Did Ctrl+c there instead of ctrl+v :-(
 
user3956566
10:35 AM
@BhargavRao ah
 
@BhargavRao You can write an answer. I mostly don't write meta answers.
 
Fine, I will go ahead.
 
@MsYvette Don't know if the owner would be happy about that :P If you can ask him first I would definitely ask him first.
 
user3956566
@Rizier123 someone did it to me
 
user3956566
so I'm trying to assess where I go from here
 
user3956566
10:39 AM
there's nothing wrong with the work, I wanted to do it myself
 
user3956566
and it goes into history as making me look like a simpleton, as someone else finished my work.
 
@MsYvette That's extremely unacceptable. However, I guess the new collaborator might have done it by accident, due to incorrect use of git (or whatever version control you're using).
 
user3956566
I'll take you to the room
 
If I work on someone else's code, I only refractor the parts I change for the features I use, refracterng a whole project is just rude to the owner
 
user3956566
 
10:43 AM
@Ferrybig agree, + If you change the entire code you never know exactly if the changed code is in the intentions of the owners ideas.
 
user3956566
I was putting up a framework using an undocumented api, that I was learning as I used.. and just got it functional before I had to travel to the country. I knew it needed to be refined and I was excited and happy to be builing my first chatbot, that is a protoype for the SE site
 
user3956566
it makes me look like an incompetent fool
 
user3956566
It was being refactored on the fly, as I met with restrictions of the api.. so it had some repetitive code that needed to be refined.. but that's the fun of the creation.. refining it and making it your own.
 
You could go back with the code where it isn't refactored, create an issue to refactor the code and assign it to you. So it's clear that you want to refactor the code and if you use some refactored code from the other contributor you could address that in a comment of the issue.
 
user3956566
@Rizier123 thanks
 
10:51 AM
BY looking at the state of the project, it wasn't the time to refactor the whole project yet, whole project refactoring should wait until at least the leader declared that the first version has been released. This is usually after the most important features are added.
 
@MsYvette ummm... you might find sopython.com/pages/nidaba of interest :)
 
user3956566
@Ferrybig Exactly, it was just done on the fly, to be able to communicate with the bot and to make it interesting for users in the testing facility
 
user3956566
I needed to just know how to build a chat bot (first one) and then turn my attention to helping Sam
 
user3956566
Like the renaming etc, it was an idea in creation
 
user3956566
@JonClements very! thank you
 
10:54 AM
I guess Rob was just feeling enthusiastic to work on this project. But IMHO he really should've created a new branch for his changes instead of clobbering Ms Yvette's main line. However, it's not that hard to fix, as Rizier123 points out.
 
@MadaraUchiha Can you clean the comments in corners?
 
@JonClements Propagating our language here :P chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/41570?m=28620793#28620793
 
user3956566
Thanks for the feedback, I just wanted to know if I wasn't being unreasonable in being upset..
 
user3956566
@PM2Ring thanks for looking
 
11:05 AM
@MsYvette No worries. I can understand your being upset. OTOH, I figure it's better to assume that Rob didn't mean to make it look like he's taken over Ada, he was just trying to be helpful. Also, I guess that simply modifying the main branch made it slightly easier for him to test his modifications. But still, he could've asked first...
 
user3956566
@PM2Ring totally agree, it was done with good intentions, it's just I was my baby and I implemented those feature quickly, as I knew we had personal business to attend to and I could then come back to my baby (proj) and do more work.
 
@JonClements The link in the GH repo is broke github.com/sopython/nidaba :-(
 
@BhargavRao ?
 
This ... i.stack.imgur.com/sX65E.png (It hasn't been changed after the migration)
 
@BhargavRao +1 for bughunting.
 
11:18 AM
@BhargavRao thanks - i've changed it :)
 
@JonClements You've gotta remove the www. part
 
@BhargavRao I don't know what you mean winks
 
@JonClements Who's a bad boy? Who's a bad boy? :P
 
T J
testing the tags
is that correct?
 
@TJ delete vote?
 
T J
11:21 AM
yea..? Its an answer for a templating questing with completely incorect quotes -.-
*question
... and no explanation
 
is featured for our next burnination attempt
 
Looks like
 
Over 700 helpful flags. yay \o/
 
T J
does anyone know why it says (unregistered) besides this users name..? stackoverflow.com/users/5447724/garyfunghc
 
T J
11:32 AM
just curious how to post answers without registering on sie ._.
wah
thanks
 
@kayess congrats
 
@BhargavRao TY!
 
I reached 99.3% helpful flags.. Tuna still outta reach :/
 
@kayess I don't know C# but that question looks ok to me. Sure, it's a debugging question, but it's not too localized, IMHO: it's a general scoping issue, so the question may be useful to others.
 
Sam
Morning
 
11:42 AM
Morning
 
Morning
Different language - Offensive by any chance? stackoverflow.com/a/35408389/4099593
 
no, NAA
 
Fine, flagged it as VLQ by mistake :-(
 
Yay! Ninja'd the mod
 
11:51 AM
Hah hah
Madara'd the post.
 
Madara'd the Madara
 
Madara in my language means: Someones bird (a bird who belongs to someone)
 

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