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user4639281
7:00 PM
@JAL @TheSharpieOne please do not link to user profiles in this room
 
user4639281
 
Sorry, about that, just following links in comments about the spam going on in documentation
 
user4639281
 
I'm out of reject vote for it, so I'll just let it continue until someone else who knows what to do can do something.
 
user4639281
All good
 
user4639281
7:01 PM
If you see the link I sent to JAL, that basically is the way we're alerting the relevant authorities to docs spam.
 
@TinyGiant the link commenting on a meta post?
 
JAL
my bad, thought exceptions were made for spam and plagiarism, but I guess that's for mods only
 
user4639281
@TheSharpieOne yep
 
Hello there
 
user4639281
@JAL Yeah, it was decided in one of the room meetings that if a mod comes and tells us we can flag a bunch of stuff that's OK, but still not all that cool.
 
7:08 PM
isn't moderating users ok if users being moderated are known spammers such as marlin woods or .*?juriya?
 
@dorukayhan We don't mod users here. You can add manual reports for Smokey though.
 
All those answers are upvoted and garbage...I don't get people in Spring MVC, everyone feels so bad for downvotes.
 
@JAL ping me with profile links if/when they start up again
 
JAL
@Undo Hey, thanks. Will do if I notice any weird activity. It was @dorukayhan and @TheSharpieOne who found the spam first.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Are they hat fishing?
 
7:16 PM
No, I don't think so. It's an honest attempt at an answer, just extremely poor
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis Voting down answers loses reputation. Are they low-rep users?
 
Click the link.
 
I don't see a lot of upvoting... yes, each has a vote, but just one...
 
The two answers (from others than OP) have one of each, the upvote coming after the downvote (same for the question itself)
I believe they came out of pity not because those are good/useful posts.
 
that sounds likely
I understand your frustration.
 
user4639281
7:22 PM
I always love seeing a poor quality basic question with 6 exact duplicate answers and all of the answers have 5 upvotes.
 
@TinyGiant I may or may not be guilty of this kind of behavior
 
+1 great minds think alike
 
@MikelF New kid on the block?
 
2 months
 
user4639281
7:25 PM
Or the opposite, 6 answers each with 5 downvotes. Strategic downvoting hard at work
 
user4639281
@MikelF 2 months on the site, or 2 months moderating?
 
on site
 
@MikelF Welcome, to the question assassins guild. Use your flags well!
 
I don't really belong in here, but I enjoy watching the process
 
user4639281
Ahh
 
user4639281
7:26 PM
Wait... there's a process?
 
sausage making
 
@MikelF No one want's to know details about that process :-P
 
the ugliness under the hood that makes things continue to move forward.. even if it is only in uneven lurches
at this point, I am a third of the way to being able to do close votes..
 
@MikelF Well, we have a protocol here you can participate, even without the CV priviledge.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I've been poking in here for about three weeks or so, right after I earned reviewing privileges
 
7:30 PM
There's a number of < 3k users doing so here
 
make that two weeks.... the Update to rule 15 had just happened
@πάνταῥεῖ I see your name all the time because I stick to c++ when not in triage
 
1K is the bare minimum, really
 
@MikelF Yeah, I'm one of the main maintainers for question quality in . Duplicate or close voting reason suggestions are appreciated.
 
@rene hey seth was below that
 
Yeah, we are softies
 
7:34 PM
I first came in here because I was trying to 'calibrate' my flagging.
 
@MikelF Good reason (@rene even below 1k)
 
@ColdFire I mean, if users < 1K don't get it I can expel them under that rule. If they turn out to be sane ... meh ...
 
I'm sane? that's good news.
 
No, you are at 1K :(
 
lol typical rene
 
7:35 PM
Yes, I trolled @MikelF for the first time
 
@MikelF You are, don't worry.
 
> So I can't kick you
 
Now I get a cookie, right?
 
@MikelF We're all mad here
 
My wife makes incredible cookies.
 
7:36 PM
@rene yep
 
Great!
 
@rene I've got loads of cookies to hand out. Got some as X-Mas presents from my family, but I refrain to eat any sweets since I know it's bad for my paradontitis (for about a year now I stood that).
 
Poor cookies, and what a waste
 
yeah
 
JAL
Is this turning into a legal question?
 
7:42 PM
that's off-topic
 
"turning into"?
 
@JAL I always get confused with questions which don't seem to ask a question, but apparently ask it in the title
 
JAL
ha
@Adriaan same
 
@Adriaan It's a bit silly, but they have to ask it explicitly in the question body.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I usually complain to people about them not asking a question because of that
 
7:48 PM
@Adriaan And not for that particular case? (Voted to delete)
 
I'm not seeing it
 
@Olaf Voted POB
 
@Undo he told me in the tavern. I assume he runs it locally on his own box
 
oh, tavern
yay for chat host trifurcation
 
tri?
I thought everything other than SO was on MSE chat?
 
7:52 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ You're a minority. Anyway, mission accomplished and that's the most relevant part
 
cSO, cmSE, cSE
 
@Olaf What does your scales say after the X-Mas days? ;-)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ 2kg less :-P
 
@Olaf Wow!
 
@Olaf I voted too broad
 
user4639281
7:53 PM
As a quick update on this: they're still coming in on a regular basis. Adam made changes to block suspended users and to hide requests from deleted users... So as a temporary solution, I have a script that'll dismiss and destroy the author of any topic requests where the title contains more than a nominal amount of CJK characters. It runs every 3 minutes, and appears to be keeping up with the flood. We'll try & get a more robust solution in place later. Needless to say, testing this by posting requests containing CJK characters would be a very bad idea. — Shog9 ♦ Dec 11 at 18:37
 
@TinyGiant heh
 
@πάνταῥεῖ it wouldn't help the question if I commented that. It'd still be off-topic
 
user4639281
The this was next
 
Well, I got 5 more the months before. Computer games seem to help loose weight ... (no wonder if you parcour on skyscrapers and the carribean islands)
 
user4639281
So it looks like the script was merged into the system.
 
7:54 PM
@TinyGiant part of the ship, part of the crew
 
user4639281
@TylerH I just watched that last night
 
@TinyGiant the proposed changes route wasn't part of that, just confirmed in the Tavern by the master himself
 
@Olaf Well, as mentioned I've got a number of cookies to give away now. Interested?
@Adriaan Sure a comment isn't necessary at all.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ sure, just serialise them, convert base64 and post them here. Encrypt them to make sure only I will get them (@TylerH has this shine in his eyes). My password is "cookiemonster" :-)
 
@Olaf "@TylerH has this shine in his eyes" Yeah, that's what makes them suspicious, and that's the reason why I don't want to see them handle devices like chainsaws or hammers. :)
@Olaf Well, I thought of get rid of that stuff sending it at your postal address :-)
 
8:01 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I prefer poison darts and daggers. Chainsaws are soooo unelegant.
 
@Olaf Assassins guild elegance details ;-)
 
great minds
 
:(
 
user4639281
@rene Well that's smart
 
@TinyGiant yeah, it was build conform specs ...
 
8:12 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Why risking a direct encounter if you can handle things from the distance out of the shadows :-)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ too late, I now have chainsaws attached to hammers that I am dual wielding
 
@TylerH Hammers attached to chainsaws would be more scaring actually. But that will not halp against a dagger from behind
 
@TylerH That's the thing I was afraid of :-P ...
@Tyler I'd recommend you use comments primarily, before you're going to apply these tools!
 
Code posted as image±
 
user4639281
@rene lol
 
8:15 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Some questions (and answers) deserve a - well - more direct treatment ...
 
user4639281
@Olaf I|just have a hammer on a chain, seems to work well
 
C questions have become even more stupid/duplicated thee days.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ nope, I will of course use no discretion
especially with your posts
hammer-saw first
run away later
 
@Olaf I've thought the same about C++
 
@Olaf oh they were like that always
@Olaf you forgot android and java
 
user4639281
8:17 PM
@TylerH Hammer chainsaw, does that mean you perform a chainsaw edit then dupe hammer it?
 
user4639281
@Olaf lol
 
If I run java -jar myprog.jar and there is absolutely 0 bytes left on the disk, will it fail and if yes, what will be the exitcode? No, I don't want to test that myself ...
 
@MikelF Well, according to some (even not soo low-rep) users, they are the same language anyway ... (no comment, I did enough already!)
 
it will fail
and no idea about exit code
rene
 
8:19 PM
@TinyGiant something like that would work
 
@ColdFire Hmm, OK, thx
 
@Olaf Wow that's a good (olde) one!
 
@ColdFire Well, it is not just the contents, but also the lack of understanding and ability of logical thinking they exhibit.
 
@Olaf exactly my point
some people think SO of a free code service
just ask and get the code
without even knowing the basics
 
@TinyGiant Well, I'm doing such along close votes: stackoverflow.com/questions/41341789/…
 
8:22 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Eurythmics are always good ones. Even more compared with today's pop. Annie Lennox had (has?) a voice 20 lady gaga&co won't reach.
 
@Olaf Annie Lennox is a goddess!
 
user4639281
@πάνταῥεῖ Where's the chainsaw edit? Where's the dupe hammer?
 
JAL
You guys would probably like the First Wave station on SiriusXM. I love new wave and alternative, and there's a lot of that on there
 
@TinyGiant Just a close vote, not the dupe hammer, that's the point!
 
@ColdFire Problem is even more the "think for me" attitude. Call me old-fashioned, but that seem to be spreading more and more. No wonder ppl eat all the bullsh* politicians and managers preseent to them
 
8:24 PM
@JAL Alternative? We're normal ...
 
JAL
:)
 
@TinyGiant Cut poster's icon in pieces?
 
@Olaf We're living in the post-fact age now :-(
 
@rene Yeah, that was a good entertainment today :-)
 
8:25 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ That would not work if we did not also live in the post-brain area. Maybe we really ned Jurassic Park scenario to make ppl start using their head-filling again.
 
@Olaf The situation is not helped when people answer those questions with code
 
@Olaf We should probably try to recover the world from another basic RNA/DNA reaction right now :-P
@MikelF You should not underestimate code. It's all coded in our genes!
 
@JAL nah the First Wave died when they hit Manhattan
Second Wave's where it's at
Division ftw
 
@rene Exactly what I mean.
 
The worst bit is that "think for me" is not a close reason
 
8:29 PM
@rene lol agreed
 
@JanDvorak I've considered asking for a "OP wants a pony" close reason
 
there's always "too broad"
2
 
@JanDvorak isn't this whole room a think for me but then for close reasons?
 
@approxiblue "why can't I parse JSON with an XML parser?" "too broad". Actually, it does seem legit.
 
user4639281
> Make Popup Code To 24h With Cockie [on hold]
 
user4639281
8:30 PM
Awesome
 
> Cockie
 
Who's Cockie?
 
@JanDvorak Donald Trump after Nov 8th... :-)
 
@rene We should gain the next stage of intelligence including telepathy. But that would take some generations more, and D. Trump and other low intelligence people will just throttle that important process to evolve our race!
@TylerH Meh!
 
@JanDvorak The close-reason with that MCVE line is quite clear about a specific problem statement. Or unclear or too broad. Sometime it is good to have dice nearby.
@TylerH Another oral office affair? Isn't Monica too old now?
@πάνταῥεῖ With cyber-war et al, there seem to be more interest in counter-inteligence nowadays. (pun intended)
 
8:39 PM
@Olaf We should strike them with bots!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Sure. Where can I rent a IoT bot-net?
 
@Olaf There's plenty of them available to rent in the darknet!
 
Well, that should be forbidden then.
 
@Olaf ha ha, oral office
 
@Olaf It can't be forbidden, but just happens :(
 
8:42 PM
We need new laws, the existing ones (not that it would be allowed right now) which forbid this don't work. There can never be enough laws forbiding something.
@TylerH You are really young, are you? Search for it ;-)
 
@Olaf Laws, don't prevent that unfortunately :(
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Everthing can be forbidden.
@πάνταῥεῖ Ach? (Thanks, Loriot)
 
@Olaf That's what's the definition of criminality is. It happens all of the time though.
@Olaf They are it seems (reading about their car wrecks).
 
How about a law forcing politicians to use their between-ear-padding? Penalty: Word document with 200 pages and at least 40 embedded objects (tables, iomages, drawings). Or 10 pages in Doors or Polarion.
 
@Olaf Mandatory drug testing for politicians.
 
8:48 PM
@MikelF Won't help. They seem to have developed a genetic feature to self-produce valium and white powder.
@πάνταῥεῖ Worst thing about the youth is they make us feel old inadvertently :-))
 
@Olaf Not "inadvertently " actually. I'm prepared for that :-P
 
@Olaf you are being nice... some are on purpose
 
@MikelF Meh! I'd appreciate people like Bob Marley would have become polititians!
@Olaf There was some concept introduced in the Star Treck universe. Wasn't it?
 
I meant they say or do something which makes us feel old. But I don't think they intended to make us feel that way, thus I can't even blame them.
The worst thing is if you can't blame someone else for your own problems.
 
@Olaf at work? no thanks. And I am 26.5 btw
 
8:59 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ At least they would have the same effect (not helping anyone), but then they would also not mess things up. Pot for Bundestag!
 
@Olaf Yes, and eager for the drug primarily.
 
@TylerH So s/really/ /
 
indeed
 
@πάνταῥεῖ people like bob marley wouldn't be such hypocrites about drugs
 
@πάνταῥεῖ the replicator could reproduce anything, even food. They lived in a fully post scarcity world
 
9:01 PM
@MikelF Sure! That's why I'm favoring them.
 
I've been told in some IMO rather rude comments that this Meta answer is wrong, any thoughts? meta.stackoverflow.com/a/340458/3155639
 
@πάνταῥεῖ there are plenty of drug using politicians now who pass laws to punish other drug users
 
@MikelF I'm in favor of using (the right) drugs. Read my profile!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ That was exactly the opposite actually. They could not produce the drug themselves (by their body), but they were adicted to it's delivery by the dominion. More or less similar what we are to money (which also changes the mind)
 
@Olaf I'm able to produce my drugs myself. I'm a lucky person!!
Producing money leaves a gap actually :(
 
9:05 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara It might sound a bit blunt, but I don't think it is rude. Some cultures use a more direct approach (yes, mine is one of them and I actually prefer it to being overly polite).
 
@AlexanderO'Mara the example in the question is about content dispute though, not something as minor as a code typo that can be fixed in an edit
 
At least I don't want to sell these drugs
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I think Servy's last comment was rude but he has a tendency to go there if his conversations last more than one or two comments long.
I do, however, agree with Servy on the other point
 
Ignore the comments, I'm more wondering if the answer is wrong.
 
which is that it's not something that should be edited out, since it's the author's clear intent (by ignoring willfully any comments pointing out alternate views) to keep that in
In other words, the answerer did not include that line by mistake, even if it is wrong
 
9:08 PM
@TylerH It wasn't about editing-out, it was about correcting the technically wrong wording. The example at-hand is not very good though.
 
@AlexanderO'Mara same thing
if you correct the technically wrong thing, you are editing out the technically wrong thing
but it's the poster's intention and belief that it's not wrong
so you should downvote it, and write a competing answer
even if it's largely the same
if you don't care for an answer, then a simple comment is fine and it'll eventually get a bunch of comment votes if it's true
Unless the answerer makes their answer CW, they retain almost all content and, more importantly, intent rights
@rene !!startevent ?
 
JAL
@rene are we still working on the tags stickied to the starboard?
 
@JAL yes, please
@TylerH you got it
 
JAL
Cool, I'm going to start on Firebase - too broad
 
when you guys say work on the tags what you mean by that?
close questions?
edits?
 
flags?
 
JAL
close votes (or flags if < 3k)
 
@AlexanderO'Mara I think you should disengage in the comments
@ColdFire in the close vote queue you can filter by question tags; we prioritize tags with fewer questions to make tangible progress
 
Today is a good sausage day.
 
@approxiblue i see
@JAL got it thanks
 
9:18 PM
@MikelF Pasta. Basta!
 
So is Closey just a thing of the past now?
 
JAL
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "too broad; [firebase]"
moving to off-topic
> You have no more close votes today; come back in 2 hours.
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 2 hours to continue reviewing.
@JAL why do you go one CV reason at a time?
 
> You have no more close votes today; come back in 2 hours.
 
@MikelF As soon you don't get disclosed how these were made of maybe.
@TylerH Why?
 
9:26 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ I watch How It's Made all the time...
 
JAL
@TylerH I like clearing by a specific reason, [I believe] it helps the crap rise to the top. Plus I'd rather not review dupes and leave them for the gold badge holders
plus there's a nice sense of accomplishment when you finish a reason for a tag :)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ because I'm curious, and I liked the bot and wish it were still here
 
@πάνταῥεῖ It may just be because I am strange, but I found @AlexanderO'Mara's thread and the discussion about it here to be fascinating
 
@MikelF I also ask my butcher for "dead and chopped into small pieces cow" when I buy minced meat.
 
@Olaf Much easier to do when they are dead first.
 
9:34 PM
@MikelF Someone not strange in this room (on SO?) would be strange.
@MikelF I leave this as a minor task to the butcher. Unless I hear them moo-ing. I'm sure he knows his job.
 
@Olaf If your butcher is moo-ing, I'd find a new butcher.
 
@MikelF You should read the HHGTG, 2nd book. (please no one spoiler!)
 
@Olaf Read them all. I'm old like that.
 
@MikelF So you should know a mooing butcher would not be too bad of an idea ...
 
Can we blame caching?
 
9:37 PM
ofcoursse
 
@Olaf He talked, and I am not certain he performed the butchering.
 
@MikelF Well, she said she will go and shoot herself. Doing "human". So at least she will have doing the first part.
 
@rene ugh how do I vote to close this?
 
@Olaf I knew I was going to get the gender wrong.
 
Getting started with caching is easy. Getting rid of it is not.
 
9:42 PM
@MikelF IIRC, it was a cow, not a bull, so ... ;-) But I'm not sure I got the tempus correct. I just don't have Dr. Dan Streetmaker's book not available.
@JanDvorak Neither is doing it right.
 
@approxiblue I dunno, we don't do docs here ... but it just caught my eyes when I was checking for other possible places of spam .
 
@MikelF: I wonder why I just read about a "mooning butcher". That would indeed be quite disturbing ...
 
@Olaf Wrong kind of sausage.
 
JAL
How do I flag an abusive URL that can crash your phone? stackoverflow.com/q/41370136/2415822
Is an abusive flag acceptable?
 
It includes a warning, so I'd not flag
MCVE and SO both fit, though
 
9:47 PM
@JAL I'm not sure OP intended this. But we are not the Ios service department.
 
@JAL you could edit the link into a code block to prevent accidental clicks
 
JAL
@approxiblue just did
@Olaf that too
 
JAL
Requesting feedback based on recent events: How should posts with malicious URLs be handled?
 
10:07 PM
@JanDvorak nah, it's got an error
 
@JanDvorak POB or to broad I'd say. As always if you try to use enforce a paradigm without need (and which will be less clear/readable).
 
it's just confusing language IMO
hmm, ohh he gets the error when he tries to refactor it himself
 
@TylerH It's bad coding style; One should always concentrate on writing human readable code first. Disc-space for source code is definitively not an issue anymore.
 
@Olaf I meant the English was confusing not the code language :-)
@JAL feedback answer posted
 
Don't edit spam, @TylerH
 
10:16 PM
@JanDvorak I'll edit spam if it's not getting caught quickly
and if it was only recently posted
 
You could report to Smokey instead.
 
too cumbersome of an action
 
@TylerH I assume you mean the "functional"? I didn't even wondered about that. Maybe sometimes it helps me to read English from a somewhat "external viewpoint".
 
@Olaf no I mean the whole post's language in general, not one specific word or phrase
it's clearly an ESL speaker
 
@TylerH this?
 
JAL
10:19 PM
Thanks @TylerH, good answer
 
@TylerH Probably, but I still don't have a problem understanding it. I've seen (verified) EFL speakers writing worse texts.
@rene You have way too weird associations (and I know what I'm talking about:-)
 
@Olaf Yes, I don't have a problem guessing at what he means either, but it takes longer to parse than if it were written more clearly
@rene English as a Second Language
@codeMagic vote limit reached :-(
 
@TylerH Are you saying that typing !!/report <ctrl-v> is more cumbersome than editing question?
 
Tyler, I forgive you this time
 
@TylerH You should see some documents I have read. Thery only serve one good purpose: to show howe not to do technical documentation.
 
10:23 PM
@JanDvorak yes because how am I supposed to remember that syntax and also check to make sure I'm in a room with smokey and that that feature exists and also move from one tab to another after copying a link that isn't readily exposed, when I could just click edit, make some relevant change, then click save
it's so much slower
especially since I've already flagged for spam anyway
 
I was rather hoping for an argument why this should be an exception to the no-edit rule, rather than you disputing the rule
 
but the case for editing is an edge one
@JanDvorak I don't know what you mean by an exception to the no-edit rule
 
@TylerH I just qualified for that title ...
 
Just FYI, a roll-back invalidates all spam/abusive flags - just one reason to not edit spam
 
Do I have any Java golds in here atm?
 
10:24 PM
@JanDvorak edits are not the same thing as roll backs
FYI
and you're really making a mountain out of a mole hill
 
Sure, but if you edit, then flag, the OP can rollback
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis I dunno, @Tunaki is gone
 
The other reason to not edit spam is that it confuses spam filters - including Smokey
 
the percentage of times I would edit a spam link (which is only one possible kind of post that has a harmful link, not the only kind) is far less than 1%
also, what's the percentage of times a spam poster rolls back an edit to their post?
I'm guessing around the .01% range
 
That percentage is pleasant to see.
 
10:26 PM
and third, I could not care less about some random user's site bot getting confused
So again, I think you're missing the forest for the trees with my answer
 
"random user's site bot", really?
 
really
it sounds like an opportunity to improve Smokey's programming or take him off line
 
The dev team is considering integrating SmokeDetector into the server code...
 
lets hope they iron out any cases of edits confusing it before they do
:-)
 
taking him offline would be rather disastrous. If you want to discuss a code change, you're welcome to come to the Charcoal room
If you want to change the "don't edit spam" rule, the place would be MSE.
 
10:29 PM
I would just suggest you make the bot not be confused by normal site behavior
 
What's the case where you would edit spam?
 
I'm not involved with smokey and I shouldn't have to change my behavior to avoid problems with a hobby site bot. Rather, vice versa
 
@TylerH I would suggest not calling <1% exceptions a normal site behavior ;-)
 
@JanDvorak thenormal site behavior is editing
 
Not for spam/abusive
 
10:30 PM
@JanDvorak sure it is, just uncommon
 
Do you really want me to dig through meta to look you up the rule?
 
@codeMagic if it is very recent (say, newer than 1 minute), written in such a way that it is likely to not be seen as obvious spam, the link is well hidden, the link goes to a site that will silently install crypto locker on your computer, etc. It's tough to describe an exact one; it's a 'you know it when you see it' kind of thing
@JanDvorak I don't really want you to do anything. You can do whatever you please. Though I doubt there's any such rule that says we are not allowed to edit spam posts
At most there might be a CM who says they would recommend we don't
 
@TylerH that's not the same situation you described in your meta answer, though. That one was a bit more obvious.
 
Ok, I can see that being valid. But I would personally just do the normal things and leave a comment. Just my 2 cents
 
If someone can't detect "earn ten months of salary in ten minutes without moving a finger, all legal" as obvious scam, a bricked phone is the least of their worries.
 
10:34 PM
haha
A bricked phone, in that case, is probably doing them a favor
 
@Tunaki or @HovercraftFullOfEels Please do me a favor and close this as a duplicate. I had originally closed and had to reopen when they clarified. Found an appropriate one and linked it in comments.
 
@JanDvorak Yes, because it's just a passing edge case example in my answer, one readers are not intended to focus upon ;-)
 
That's why I only commented on your answer ;-)
 
That's still too far down the rabbit hole
that kind of thing is for chat
The question is about what to do if you see a malicious link, edit? flag? which I say, edit/flag for malicious posts/spam/etc.
anyhow, it's home time for me
 
I was just trying to inform the passing reader that they shouldn't just edit spam on daily basis
 
11:14 PM
which is worse? SO as a telepathic debugging service, or as a homework service?
 
depends on the level of effort
 
@MikelF These are equally bad and denied usually.
 
@MikelF A telepathic homework debugging service
 
11:34 PM
@Olaf It is easy to get sucked into a question though...
Is it strange that the thank you comments mean more to me than the upvote/accepted answer?
 
11:47 PM
@MikelF It is fully understandable from a psychlogical view. The vote is anonymous, the comment not. Youi just have to accept the comment is not welcome for good reasons.
 
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