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12:00 AM
I should. But I'm not in the mood for those discussions these days. youtube.com/watch?v=if-za0Lu7tI
 
 
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1:09 AM
@Closey commands
 
@approxiblue Here is a list of commands you have permission to run:
add [user id] to [group name] - Manually adds a user to the given permission group.
alive - A simple ping command to test if the bot is running.
approve request [#] - Approves a pending permission request.
commands - Shows this list.
help - Prints info about this software.
membership - Shows a list of all permission groups, and the members in those permission groups.
my membership - Shows the permission groups you are a part of.
reject request [#] - Rejects a pending permission request.
remove [user id] from [group name] - Manually removes a user from the given permission group.
 
@Closey my membership
 
@approxiblue You are not in any permission groups.
 
@Closey membership
 
@approxiblue Current users in permission groups:
Reviewer
    Adriaan (5211833)
    Andrew Cheong (925913)
    Andrew Li (5647260)
    Ashish Ahuja (5735775)
    Braiam (792066)
    Brock Adams (331508)
    Cold Fire (5148907)
    Compass (2958086)
    Dukeling (1711796)
    durron597 (1768232)
    Ferrybig (1542723)
    FirstStep (5890227)
    FrankerZ (4875631)
    gunr2171 (1043380)
    Jacob Gray (3285730)
    JAL (2415822)
    Jon Clements (1252759)
    kayess (4805174)
    Kevin Guan (5299236)
    Kyll (4174897)
    Magisch (5389107)
    Mogsdad (1677912)
 
1:12 AM
@Closey request permission to Reviewer
 
@approxiblue I've created request #15 to get you in the Reviewer group.
 
thanks
 
@clo approve request 15
 
@NobodyNada @approxiblue has been added to the Reviewer group.
 
thanks nobody
 
1:41 AM
closey should ping a reviewer or a bot owner when someone requests permission to [insert perm group here]
 
@dorukayhan that's a good idea, but which user should she ping?
@Clo view requests
 
@NobodyNada There are no users requesting access to a permission group.
 
@NobodyNada I can work on the review queue without that, so what are these groups for?
 
@Olaf Closey will announce when you start and finish reviewing and when you pass audits.
She hasn't been working for a while, but it looks like she's fine now.
 
So it just to make the work more public?
 
1:49 AM
Pretty much, I guess.
 
Ok, thanks. Maybe when I do more reviews again, I'll ask to join.
 
@NobodyNada the one who posted a message most recently, maybe? if that's unfeasible she can pick a random user
 
2:13 AM
@Olaf to make you feel like you're not alone in the queue. Closey was around when the room was like 3 people. github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/SOCVR-Chatbot/blob/master/…
 
2:32 AM
SOCVR and SOBotics have the coolest bots
 
Rob
3:00 AM
Can those 'Approved by OP' messages be removed? Doesn't really help - even if it's a bad edit, if the OP approves it then it's case closed
 
@AndrewLi ^ and the ones starting most often ... :-)
 
user3956566
@Rob I agree, I asked for them to be removed when the edit was accepted or rejected. Like when a sd post is deleted or f'ed
 
user3956566
3:49 AM
I'll give him bla bla
 
user3956566
who asks how to do bla bla in a question?
 
user3956566
In future don't answer a question that you need to start with 'In the future, try to give this a shot for yourself and ask more specific questions.' — Yvette Colomb 8 secs ago
 
user3956566
who asks a question asking how to do "bla bla" really? Read the faq section and ask yourself if this could in anyway be on topic for the site. — Yvette Colomb 12 secs ago
 
@YvetteColomb Not really a constructive comment
 
user3956566
@Undo I think it's clear, it's directing the OP to reflect on it. Did you read the original question?
 
user3956566
3:55 AM
If you want to pick holes in it fine. I'll go offline from here for a while. People in here write many things and are not singled out. Usually when I link in here, someone has an issue with it.
 
user3956566
See ya later
 
yeah, it's probably fine but it's better to not poke the bears ;)
No worries
 
Good night!
 
4:54 AM
Is it just me or did mods loose blue coloring on mobile chat?
 
@AndrewLi Undo is still blue to me
 
5:16 AM
@AndrewLi On mobile, Undo is not blue for me.
On desktop, he is.
 
Yep, I'm seeing it too
 
Huh.
 
Rob
Mods also turn red on the main site on mobile
Looks ugly
 
It was blue before right?
On mobile chat
 
@AndrewLi I don't remember, I rarely use mobile chat
 
5:32 AM
May just be me going insane
 
5:45 AM
I'm going to bed; goodnight!
 
6:03 AM
^ intended spam
 
 
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7:16 AM
@Tushar OP edited to completely new question.
 
7:29 AM
One user is gonna be suspended. OMG 15 revisions of self-vand.
 
George Bush spamming on SO. l0l
 
^exact duplicate
 
7:52 AM
Morning \o/
 
8:34 AM
Hiya
 
o/
 
9:17 AM
Can I link to spam users that aren't nuked yet?
Since we don't moderate users, but this guy is a spammer
 
Can't you mod-flag?
 
No posts, the one post by that user was spam-deleted through SD
I recall @BhargavRao mentioning he wants to nuke spammers like that
 
Bah they'll get handled
 
(See this metasmoke result)
 
9:32 AM
Is it valid bounty reason here ? stackoverflow.com/questions/40620723/… To circumvent the close reason for asking off site resource?
> I would like to see a tool/library...
 
@kayess I do think the bounty reason is valid. The question asks how to best document those silly templates with codes monsters. The answers help but no-one offered an tool/plugin/macro. Those can be valid answers. The OP is free is offer a bounty to nudge potential answerers to come forward with their suggestions, being a took or not is irrelevant as the questin it self isn't explictely asking for tools.
I think I'm done editing
 
@rene Thanks
 
9:54 AM
I think it's a great explanation of quantum mechanics
 
@QPaysTaxes I see, Qubits are female o.O
 
ooh, today's AOC is math-oriented. I like that.
 
0
Q: Should we catch and throw [rethrow]?

Maroun MarounShouldn't the rethrow be burninated? Rethrowing an exception is actually throwing it again. Having this tag doesn't add additional information to the question, since the throw is already there and can be used even if the exception is thrown for the 10th time. What do you think?

 
10:10 AM
Is there a programming language where rethrow is a keyword? For that ^
 
Quick google says no
 
@rene we could make an extension method with public static Exception rethrow(this Exception) =)
 
Still wouldn't be a keyword
 
As if I said that would make it...
 
Then why would you?
 
10:15 AM
Did I ?
 
The grammar guy thinks so
You're gonna lose this battle, just give up
 
10:41 AM
@PraveenKumar I updated the question.
Can anyone tell me why it's getting downvotes? stackoverflow.com/q/41161942/462627
 
@nickborti It looks like you have got an answer mate?
It's clear now.
 
@Drew another one for you ^^
haliho @kayess
 
Heloszia @Shadow
 
10:58 AM
@nickborti No idea, looks fine to me both before and after edit, people vote for all kinds of different reasons
 
@ivarni yeah. I got confused as well at first.
 
11:13 AM
The code example isn't very clear. I had to run it first before I understood where it was about @nickborti Maybe instead of test and test1 make it foo and bar? and I would make clear where it start te execution, maybe move in the invocation to the end. And maybe add in th text: I expect [1,2] I get ...
and it is only 1 down vote. I wouldn't sweat over it
 
@Drew another one for you ^^
 
@rene will change. not sweating. just trying to find the reason
 
It is always Tim's keys: meta.stackexchange.com/a/215397/158100
 
Someone should get Tim one of those IoT smartlocks
 
@ivarni How do those work? Are we to decide when he can get to his keys and when not?
 
11:20 AM
@rene I was thinking surgically implanted RFID chip
the downvotes must stop!!1
 
Sounds fine with me. You write the FR on Friday?
 
Would that belong on SO meta or SE meta though?
I'll promise that if I do it, it will be on a friday
 
Great
 
12:31 PM
Morning
 
12:55 PM
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Q: Burn the web! [w3c]

CerbrusI was made aware of the existence of the w3c tag, today. This seems like a meta tag that should probably be burninated, so let's have a look at the criteria: Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? The tag by itself says nothing about a qu...

 
@QPaysTaxes Where?
:)
 
OMG Nathan isn't seeing it
It's right there
 
need to reboot. brb
 
1:18 PM
Morning peeps
 
Hiya, and back
 
Afternoon Peeps.
 
o/
 
o/ o/ o/ o/ o/
 
1:35 PM
\o
 
1:49 PM
@DalijaPrasnikar Went TB
 
Gaaargh... I want to go in train...
 
lol
 
Sorry, the train has left the station
 
Sorry, the train has left the station
 
Sorry, the train has left the station
 
1:56 PM
 
šŸ˜æšŸ˜æšŸ˜æ
Seriously?
 
2:19 PM
Hiya
 
ignores the mod
 
Hey BR
 
Hi @Nathan \o
 
Morning everyone :)
 
Hiya Seth
 
2:21 PM
Hiya BR&S&NO
 
Hiya @Seth
 
o/
 
@ColdFire SNoBr? ;)
 
:)
 
2:23 PM
@Adriaan Its a new compound. It's very similar to awesomonium.
 
Snobbic I say it is :p
 
@Adriaan Paradox
Or, well, just a lie :P
 
morning!
 
Hiya gunr
 
SQL question: I have a table with 2 rows, "stock" and "price". How do I get the sum of the stock, multiplied with the price? ô.ô (Disclaimer: SQL Noob speaking.)
Hiya gunr :)
 
2:26 PM
Hi gunr
 
So it seems that @SotiriosDelimanolis helped me earn the "Populist" gold badge on meta for this. Also, I'm not at all salty that I don't have the accept....
 
@Seth sum(stock.*price)
 
select (stock * price) [Total] from MyTable
@gunr2171 however, that will give you one per row
@Seth what is your expected input/output?
 
@gunr2171 The full value (one number) :o
 
so sum ALL the prices and ALL the stocks together?
 
2:29 PM
Nope, multiply each articles price with its stock, and then add all of those value-numbers up to one big number
 
@gunr2171 I think he wants to multiply each stock with its respective price, and sum that array of numbers (so then he knows how much money he has in which stock, and how much money he has in total)
 
select sum(stock * price) as total from table_name?
 
that ^
 
@NathanOliver so, a stock of princes? I'm not sure I would like one, less the aggregated
 
Ah, nice, thanks! :)
 
2:30 PM
begin tran asdf;

create table Inventory
(
	Id int not null,
	Price decimal(8,2) not null,
	Stock int not null
)

insert into Inventory(Id, Price, Stock) values
(1, 2, 2), (2, 2, 3);

select sum(i.Price * i.Stock) [Total]
from Inventory i

rollback tran asdf;
(sql server)
 
JAL
@Undo hey, quick question: why did you unprotect and re-protect the sandbox? Was it just for testing purposes? meta
also morning all o/
 
yo!
 
Hiya JAL
 
Hiya JAL
 
JAL
That moment when you get sucked into VR research and you realize it's 9:30 and you haven't left for work yet
I think I'm going to order and HTC Vive and a nice MSI rig for my dad
 
2:34 PM
woot! I need someone for multiplayer VR games
 
^ Dafuq
 
JAL
?
 
to order and HTC Vive
 
Let's play some extremely fast-paced multiplayer-games on VR :D
 
JAL
haha
 
2:35 PM
Like... Tribe ô.ô ...
 
JAL
Can't wait to play Serious Sam VR and Superhot VR
 
YES
 
@JAL I just bought a XFX AMD RX480 8GB. Its nice but I haven't tried VR.
 
@NathanOliver RX480 highfive :)
 
JAL
@NathanOliver Nice this is what I'm looking at
 
2:36 PM
:)
 
I think a NVidia vs AMD fight might start here soon...
 
@JAL no, what you should be excited to play is Google Earth VR. Easily the best game for VR right now.
 
JAL
it's expensive as hell, but I'm too lazy to build my own machine and just want a ready to go rig
 
is there a sede query anywhere to search for questions tagged with only one specific tag
 
JAL
that looks cool too
 
2:36 PM
3.498$ ... Oh dear god.
 
3 and a half dollars? that's not bad
 
JAL
Xmas bonus :)
 
sees price, passes out
 
JAL
haha
 
2:37 PM
That is a beast of a machine.
 
I mean I got my full PC setup for ~1/4 of that price. But that thing looks quite cool....
You should toads play Outlast using VR...
Will be fun :)
 
JAL
Yeah, I know there are cheaper rigs, but I figured I would go all the way with this one. Maybe I can split it with my dad since I'm really getting it for him to play with
 
@JAL While your at it you should spend the extra $300 and get the 64 GB of ram. :)
 
@ColdFire You need to somehow alert me if there's a train starting up..
I would really like to join... :D
 
JAL
ha! didn't even see that option
@NathanOliver is there a link on amazon?
 
2:38 PM
@PraveenKumar sure
 
Thanks... :D
 
@JAL Well, honestly, if you're going for something above ~2k, you might aswell. :D
 
Especially considering the fact that VR is still in its early phase.
 
JAL
@NathanOliver thanks
 
2:39 PM
np
 
Soon you'll probably have a lot more features (graphic & engine whise), and you'll most likely need a lot more power to handle that. :P
 
JAL
Well I just broke up with my girlfriend, so my expenses are about to go down and I figured I would put my bonus towards something I actually want
 
Way to turn that frown upside down :)
 
JAL
yep, keep smiling
and more time for gaming!
 
good, more time for tf2
 
JAL
2:41 PM
ha
 
Woot \o/
 
JAL
Don't tell anyone, but that 3k rig is still cheaper than the Macbook Pro I bought 4 years ago... -_-
 
ouch
 
JAL
I think I paid 3500, it was a dual core i7 at 2.3 ghz
this will blow that machine out of the water
 
well yeah, it's a mac....
 
2:42 PM
@NathanOliver I like the shape. Too expensive and flashy for my budget though
 
@JAL Well about 1K was for the apple logo.
 
JAL
hahaha
 
What does a Mac offer that justifies the price? (Actually curious)
 
JAL
Well, I'm an iOS engineer by trade, so I'm locked into their platform for mac/ios development
 
Ahh, makes sense.
 
2:44 PM
@Seth as a non-MAC user I think battery, stability and the photo/video/audio editing software
 
JAL
yes, Final Cut is amazing too
 
as all hipsters buy the thing for flashyness, and hence want their programs to run on that
 
@Adriaan I haven't heard good things about the capability of apples batteries o.o
 
@Adriaan agreed
@Seth batteries are awesome
 
But yeah, editing software seems to be quite nice
 
JAL
2:45 PM
i mean if you're doing word processing, it's stupid, but they are good machine for dev and video work
I've been working with video since middle school, and I started learning with Avid on a iMac G3 running System 8 :)
 
true, they do have higher grade hardware for video editing
 
I'm kinda surprised mac is still leading the editing world. Now that they run intel chips you would think the software would be much easier to port to windows/linux.
 
All of the Adobe software is cross platform, and that is arguably the top editing software for videos/photos
 
JAL
Adobe Premiere is ok, but Final Cut Pro 7 I think was my favorite piece of video editing software
I still haven't gotten used to Final Cut X. My dad says it just takes time, he uses it more and likes it
 
afk meeting
3
I get to learn about 401k stuff....... wooooooooo....
 
2:55 PM
@gunr2171 No clue what that is :|
 
JAL
Get that cash!
@Seth It's a retirement program here in the US
You out money in while you're young, and you pay lower taxes on it now, so when you're old and rich later, you're not taxed when you take it out
I think. There's a bunch: 401k, IRA, Roth IRA
 
Ohh :o
I see.
 
@JAL IRA? That's a Northern-Irish terrorist group?
 
The flower has joined...
 
@Adriaan The IRS is the American vers... wait, that's the government. never mind
 
3:02 PM
passwordInput.onpaste = function(e) {
  e.preventDefault();
}
Yay, thanks for encouraging the use of freaking password managers
 
blob @Kyll
 
Plop =D
 
@JAL You actually pay no taxes on it. Pre-tax deduction. Just can't touch it until you turn 59
 
JAL
Ah yes that's right
 
3:28 PM
I need more USB ports on the front of my tower. I just picked this up for that. Looks like it will work well.
 
Sam
Sup guys o/
 
Hiya master Sam
 
@PraveenKumar you gotta look harder :-P stackoverflow.com/questions/41166808/…
 
Hiya Copy of Sam(27)
 
@TylerH Ah... I saw the dupe... LoL.
 
3:35 PM
@PraveenKumar check who answered the dupe target, some guy we know
 
@Sam \o
 
@TylerH šŸ‘ŠšŸ»šŸ‘ŠšŸ»šŸ‘ŠšŸ» We don't know who he is... He just looks like you. Let's kill him. There should be one and only Tailor H...
 
PS...
1 hour ago, by TylerH
is there a sede query anywhere to search for questions tagged with only one specific tag
 
@TylerH Not that I know of,but it's easi to wrote
Those typos
 
@PraveenKumar omg butcher of the name X-D
 
3:37 PM
@TylerH šŸ‘ŠšŸ»šŸ‘ŠšŸ»šŸ‘ŠšŸ»
 
@Tunaki at least you punctiation was rihgt
 
@TylerH Think of how many people would have butchered and murdered my name?
 
@PraveenKumar but your name is Praveen Kumar
the legend
 
:D :D
 
@Tunaki I'm trying to see how many (if any) questions are tagged with only
 
3:38 PM
@TylerH Many people will call me Parveen. I'll start mispronouncing their names wantedly... :D
That gives me some sort of satisfaction...
There was one guy, Paul, who sent me addressing as Parveen.
 
Sam
@kayess o/
 
I thought it was just a mistake, but for the second time and third time he made it a habit, my emails went like this.
 
@TylerH Easy to do, give me 6 to 8.
 
> Dear Pole,
> Dear Pool,
> Dear Poul,
šŸ˜¹šŸ˜¹šŸ˜¹šŸ˜¹šŸ˜¹
 
@PraveenKumar Did he ever catch on?
 
3:42 PM
@Tunaki nice you're the bomb
 
@Louis No
 
@gunr2171 Everything I do, I do it all for you.
 
@Tunaki \o/ ninja'd you and didn't miss one :d
 
4:02 PM
Still waiting for my extra crispy waffles @Tyler :(
 
I'd like to contest the closure on stackoverflow.com/q/24348263/1849664. Somehow it's both a typo and been seen by almost 2k people, which I have a really hard time buying.
 
@Undo It's Smokeys! Nooooo! Let's keep it for historical reasons, as for the first time a bot has questioned the site.
 
no, let's evaluate the question on its own :P
 
@Undo lol asked by SD
 
Ha ha ha...
It went so quick.
Already 3 delv's...
 
4:08 PM
agreed lets delete it
 
Agreed...
 
@Undo So you do not think it is a typo?
 
So @Undo, What about Smokey's reputation on this?
 
@PraveenKumar Not really an issue
 
@Undo Will she be able to alert us here for spams?
 
4:09 PM
@Undo what % of 2k is I clicked this because smokey has posted it?
 
@BhargavRao smokey has 1k profile views, max.
 
Hmm, So it's 250 max
 
@NathanOliver I believe that Xcode autocompleted that at that time, and it seems to be a common enough mistake that it's helping other folks (in contradiction of the close reason)
 
@Undo We would have to confirm that.
 
Aside: The NATO now has around 10 NAAs (in the first few pages), Anyone free to go through them?
 
4:12 PM
If that is really what happened then it should be reopened and an answer added explaining it is Xcode messing up.
 
Sure, you're free to do whatever you want. It's ancient history enough that my memory is fuzzy, and I came back to it surprised that folks want to delete it. I don't care about the rep to Smokey, more about the information we're about to lose there.
 
@Undo You don't know why people are viewing that question. Is it because Cannot convert the expression's type 'Void' to type 'String!' is something that people often search for and they land there? I'd be ready to bet this error comes up a lot for reasons unrelated to what that question is about.
 
This is also possible
 
@Undo It just looks to me like a "oops! I accidentally swapped parameters" problem, and nothing more.
 
Woooooooh!
 
4:15 PM
(in that vein, it's also a really horrible error message)
 
JAL
well, that's the swift compiler for you
 
A compiler with helpful error messages? Nah nah
 
Actually, such stuff exists
 
I just tried to comprehend quantum computing and now my head hurts.
 
I have no idea about the question itself though
 
4:24 PM
Ruby is usually okay
Not perfect, but better than early-days Swift
 
@Undo I prefer emerald. I don't like red
 
Haskell is great for math stuff. That by far most errors are compile-time is a great help.
@Adriaan How about Opal? It's a Ruby dialect compiled to Javascript
 
You should see some of the TMP error messages you get in C++.
 
@JanDvorak pretty colours in there for sure!
 
4:27 PM
@Tunaki yes
 
JAL
@Tunaki I don't even know what that user is trying to say
 
@JAL That's what worries me.
 
@Tunaki yep
 
Alright
 
@Tunaki yes
 
4:29 PM
:34617307 hum, signature link to own blog
 
Got 14 serial downvotes today. Funny thing is that the user again posted a NAA which was handled by me.
 
JAL
lol, mod life
 
Mods can see who voted?
 
@BhargavRao that was risky of them. Surely that kind of thing deserves a stern warning?
 
I thought you could only see trends
 
4:33 PM
Reason why I don't comment anymore on NAA posts where the user has enough rep to downvote.....
 
JAL
same, I thought CMs and staff could see user votes
 
Trash alternate messages :P
 
What happened to the private trash rooms?
 
There are mod-only trash rooms?
 
Wait, isn't that modabuse? :D
@Tunaki Nope
There's only one mod room, called the Teacher's Lounge
 
4:41 PM
Aw. I wanted to make a script and move all of your messages there @Bhargav
 
A mod-only trash room is /dev/null
 
:)
 
@Tunaki I tried that. It doesn't work if you don't have access to the room yourself.
afk
 
:(
 
I'll be afk too.
In case I let out more secrets :P
 
4:44 PM
If shog shows up, then we'll know we're in trouble
2
 
@gunr2171 I'm soo tempted to quote that in the tavern
 
Disclaimer: Gunr Adviceā„¢ only applies to SOCVR. Use at your own risk. Your results may vary.
 
lol
 
JAL
Possible side effects include: vomiting, diarrhea, heartburn, and the overwhelming desire to play TF2
 
what about cv-pls's?
 
JAL
4:56 PM
I swear shog has some magic ping that activates whenever you say his name. Happened to me a few weeks ago: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/34374950#34374950
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@gunr2171 eh, still better than rv-pls's
 
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