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Sam
12:01 AM
@Thaillie You'll be fine. Rene doesn't actually bite. ;)
 
I know ;)
 
Sam
@PraveenKumar alive isn't a command. Lol, yeah, you're not the first person.
 
@Sam Ha ha ha... Who's Yam? Why he dies for you daily? Is he a chicken? :P
 
Sam
@Yam help
 
Yam
@Sam I think I'm a chatbot. Although, I do love a good bit of poetry every now and then (don't ask me for any though, I'm useless). I also love being in this room so much in fact, that I've decided to check up on all your 'es to see if they need reopening (I'm not 100% accurate, so only take messages as suggestions). You can check out what I can do by using: commands. You can find my GH repo here.
 
12:03 AM
@Yam commands
 
Yam
commands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Prints this beautifully formatted message.
stats ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Displays the number of posts being watched.
help ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pretty self-explanatory...
die ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I die a slow and painful death.
 
Sam
I have to kill him in order to apply updates.
 
@Sam I die a slow and painful death. I really pity Yam.
 
Sam
By that, he means he has to flush his logs. :p
 
LoL.
Learnt a lot after joining here. :) Thanks guys.
I am gonna build my own bot that speaks to me... Soon. :D
 
Sam
12:05 AM
No problem.
Nice. (You'll need to make a room for when you test it though.) Which lang do you plan on using?
 
@Sam PHP? :P
Possible?
 
Erm...
 
Being an Active SO User, I shouldn't ask this stupid question of whether something is possible.
I know.
@Thaillie I guess I am gonna tunnel Yam's backend to my PHP front end LoL.
 
I guess it's possible in php. But I don't know if it's efficient :p
 
Sam
@PraveenKumar Uhhh
 
12:11 AM
Why? Why, @Sam?
 
Sam
I don't know of any chat libs for PHP
 
What languages do you suggestion? Node?
 
I guess Python or c# (or c++ or whatever it may be :p)
 
Sam
Yeah, I guess JS should be fine.
There's also Ruby.
And Java (in private beta, still).
SD's written in Python.
 
I wanted to use Smokey's chat api but I couldn't get it to work :p
 
Sam
12:16 AM
ChatExchange?
 
Yea :p
 
Sam
D'you follow the installation guide?
 
Yup :p
 
i bought a php chat api on codecanyon once
 
And? How did it function and was it worth the money?
 
12:30 AM
worth the $10, sure ! Probably have it here somewhere. As usual, never satisfied, had to overhaul it.
I am sure it was this guy jakweb.ch/live-chat
I remember his name. He yanked it from envato and went commercial with it
It was called RhinoChat or something Rhino
 
Sounds annoying, was it a Websocket one or heartbeat ajax requests?
 
i forget. Probably the latter or worse
the api framework, unrelated, but awesome
 
Never used it :p
 
I haven't been on code canyon or envato for a long time. Who knows what's up there for $10 now
It is amazing how many days of development one can knock off by opening their wallet a smidgen
I used to do a lot of video farm rendering with Adobe After Effects for commercials
$25 templates were the bomb
videohive.net
 
1:03 AM
Interesting, I never trust that :p
I make everything by hand :p
 
Sam
Homemade code coders unite \o/
 
well you get the source code. If you don't trust that, ya can't trust SO
The point of it is to modify the source code
 
It's not that I don't trust it, I triple check the entire thing before using it. It's just that it doesn't give enough satisfaction :p
 
they are starting points for people that are software developers. If they aren't, they shouldn't be there or here.
 
Sam
1:20 AM
@Yam stats
 
Yam
I'm currently watching 556 posts.
 
Sam
I've widened the search criteria, again.
So now any post which is >20% changed will be reported.
 
cool
 
Sam
It was at 30% originally (plus age-related conditions), but we were hardly getting any feedback from Yam, so we'll see how this goes.
 
Like an edit: "I am still having this problem."
 
Sam
1:25 AM
That might trigger Yam if the question is really small.
 
Have an AI function in YAM. If lame edit, auto-post "That is lame bro"
 
Sam
Lol
 
so... who's all charged for the storm?
 
YAM gets banned in 1 hour
 
Dang, forgot new users don't have chat access. Now I have to keep switching between the 2 accounts if I want to chat -_-
 
Sam
1:32 AM
Lol, welcome to the world of chatbot building.
 
The biggest problem is gaining 20 rep :p
 
search for title: pr0blem...
 
Sam
Yeah, edits are easy on SO
MSE is a nightmare though.
Night guys \o
 
Night Sam o/
 
Is that spam?
First post by a new account. Check.
shortened URL. Check.
Points to a PDF of TI documentation. Weird, but not really spammy.
Doesn't try to answer the question.
 
1:47 AM
the url was created just now... I would say NAA
 
Yeah, flagged it, downvoted, commented... rolling the dice.
No mods around tonight, I see.
Any lurking?
Madara? Bluefeet?
 
did you use your 20 reviews in the LQRQ?
 
2:37 AM
@TigerhawkT3 Oh, sorry was so busy yesterday (so sent a , then go away).
And hey everyone!
 
hey kiddo
 
@Braiam I've done no reviews yet, just some general editing & tidying. Why?
@KevinGuan Nice to "see" you, Kevin!
 
@Mogsdad Err...why is that "see" in quotes?
 
@KevinGuan Because I can't actually see you.
 
lol
 
2:45 AM
Because there's a sea between us, see? (English is weird.)
 
Use a telescope perhaps can solve this.
Huh, it looks like @Sam now is a RO...congrats! (and don't eat me please)
 
3:13 AM
^^^ ONLY in would that be upvoted.
sd ignore- edited
 
Waffle!
 
4:08 AM
@Drew... could you check out my last request? I'm burning a tag, but don't want to edit it and destroy votes.
thx
 
alright, back, saw cimm got it. I have a full load of votes left
 
4:36 AM
Well, tonight I've burninated for the second (third?) time. If it was just retagging, that would be fine, but it took lots of editing! I'm worn out. I'll be back tomorrow to toss votes at the outstanding cv-pls requests - I'm almost up to date on that.
Good night all - have a good weekend.
 
4:55 AM
s.d. yawn
 
user3956566
totally
 
user3956566
it's like dealing with litter bug
 
someone soften this up more and I'll close it stackoverflow.com/q/34856873
 
5:32 AM
@MsYvette I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:01 AM
Right place to ask about a close vote outside of events?
Are questions about Asterisk (PBX Software) config on-topic? I guessed no and VTC stackoverflow.com/q/34960506 but OP claims on-topic. I'll retract my vote if these q's are ok.
 
@JimGarrison I don't know anything about the software in question, but there are what appear to be similar questions open in the tag.
 
 
1 hour later…
8:08 AM
Morning o/
 
8:31 AM
I just spent 15 minutes on three Google Search queries to find a dup, then gave up and just answered the question... then spent another five minutes on one last query, found the dup I knew had to exist, and hammered. Is that weird?
 
No :p
 
Whew.
 
9:18 AM
@TigerhawkT3 that is dedication ;)
 
 
1 hour later…
10:24 AM
Looks like the user wasn't satisfied with his answer :p
 
I invited BalusC in a chatroom
I rolled back the edit
 
Omg...
 
Ok, well that didn't work out ...
 
@rene BalusC is an awesome person...
Why does he behave like that?
 
I don't know
For reasons ... I guess ...
 
10:30 AM
What happend?
 
@rene What could be those?
 
@PraveenKumar Let's not go back-and-forth on that
 
@rene You don't know... He's a tiger, lion, a cheetah in JSP and Java..
 
@PraveenKumar we have a rule in our guidance that only one user handles a post. Please stick to that.
 
@rene Okay...
 
Sam
10:32 AM
@KevinGuan Thanks :)
 
Can I place a request for a formatting change in the FAQ?
 
Sam
No, we hate feedback and never intended to put the FAQ on GH to get pull reqs. Ofc you can! ;)
 
xD
 
@Thaillie no, but you can do a PR on a branch we created yesterday for a re-write: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/SOCVR-RoomInformation/tree/…
@NathanOliver is also working on rewriting some stuff
But if you feel you first want some feedback let's have it here
 
It's nothing to major, I would like to see these bullit points replaced for an ordered list. It's hard to point users to a specific rule now without putting it as a quote in chat :p
 
10:39 AM
Oh, how do I do that in github markdown?
 
Sam
1.
2.
3.
etc.
Place a space before the numbers though.
 
That ^^
 
OK. commited, have a look
 
Perfect, doesn't look as good as the bullit points but it's easier to point to a rule now :D
 
Helo
 
Sam
10:51 AM
Hi
 
Are these bot talking or human?
Oh hi
 
Sam
The only bots in here are: Yam, SmokeDetector, Closey and Nordehinu.
They're the only bots that talk anyway.
 
I just make sure bots are smart these days
Lmao
 
Possibly relevant Meta question (perhaps a few minutes late).
 
People in JSF tags are rude, IMO
The guy is the leader there
 
10:56 AM
@TigerhawkT3 I don't think it is but that post was in my mind, yes
@Bravo No, but he is Dutch, just like me and our directness is often mistaken for being rude.
 
Completely agree with that ^^
 
Well that's what I call opinion anyway
:D
 
sure, I only want to prevent that users blindly join in calling users rude when I'm confident they are not. We just cut down on noise
 
Hehe
Btw, the post is interesting to read
 
Hiya o/
 
11:11 AM
Hello Tunaki o/
 
Sam
Hello Tuna o/
 
!!/alive
 
@Thaillie Of course
 
Plop!
 
Sam
11:22 AM
Hiya
 
Hello Kevin o/
 
@KevinGuan \o
 
@Sam Wow, a RO...
 
Sam
Yeah
 
Smokey is missing a lot of full caps titles today :p
 
11:26 AM
Hi Kevin!
 
11:42 AM
What exactly has to happen for a rollback war to trigger an automatic mod flag?
 
user3956566
I'm wondering if someone could help me.
 
user3956566
I rolled back an edit here stackoverflow.com/questions/33878465/…
 
user3956566
\o
 
11:44 AM
\o/
 
Sam
\o/
 
@MsYvette Yeah that's correct. What's wrong?
 
Sam
@MsYvette Seems like the right thing to do.
 
user3956566
as the user who has placed the bounty on the question has aggressively taken ownership of the question and is editing it to include suggestions from the answers. And the question is morphing. I was wondering if anyone would mind making a gentle comment, as I don't want to get into a war with the editor. As there seems to be multiple issues here between the original OP and the bounty placer
 
user3956566
I probably should've asked someone else to roll it back
 
11:48 AM
I'd suggest ping him in comments and tell him about this, invite him here when it's needed.
 
user3956566
No
 
user3956566
I can't really
 
I'll see if I cant post a comment, but I'd redirect the user here: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/314764/1743880
 
Huh? Why?
 
I'm just wondering what the technical definition of a "rollback war" is. One rollback undone, or some other quantity?
 
user3956566
11:50 AM
it has a 500 bounty on it K
 
user3956566
I think oncee a roll back is rolled back :)
 
user3956566
I need to be careful ok I'll be brave I'll comment
 
Sam
Just explain that adding such content can go against the OP's intent. Even if they have placed a bounty.
 
@MsYvette Well, I think a wrong edit is a wrong edit, no matter if there's a bounty or not. However, if he really cares about his 500 rep, maybe we can flag that question for mods intervention, they may have ideas. And good luck.
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan no need for mod intervention. I came here for guidance really. I'm writing a comment
 
11:57 AM
That's fine.
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
hi guys!!!
 
I think we already said some \o/.
 
The problem now is that there is a 500 bounty which is going to attract a lot of attention and the question has been rollbacked.
Does the bounty notice still apply?
 
Err...that's why I think maybe we need mods. I think they can remove the notice (if that's needed).
 
11:59 AM
I have conducted an impromptu experiment and determined that it is very awkward to be trying to help someone who lacks an understanding of the basic syntax of the language they're using.
 
user3956566
@Tunaki yes he did that edit part way through
 
user3956566
I posted an answer, deleted it. Did more research, went back. Looked at his edit and he had included my new answer and someone elses answer in the edit.. it's like don't edit your question to include suggestions made in the answers
 
user3956566
you guys are so supportive thank you
 
user3956566
I notice the lack of comment here about the actual content matter LOL
 
user3956566
android build gradles, so sexy attracting youth into programming worldwide
 
user3956566
12:04 PM
@TigerhawkT3 link please I have time
 
Yay, finally reached 1,000 Rep :D
2
 
Woot \o/
 
Sam
Congrats!
 
user3956566
bravo!!!! xox
 
@MsYvette Prooooobably not necessary there.
 
user3956566
12:09 PM
@TigerhawkT3 oh you think it will be deleted?
 
ifinkso
 
user3956566
or are you just being mean to Thaillie?
 
X.X
 
user3956566
Cocatate
 
:)
 
user3956566
12:12 PM
cocotate - when I take the coconuts to the party
 
user3956566
now this is interesting, what's you take on this asking for tools? stackoverflow.com/questions/34921027/…
 
Classic :p
 
The odd part is that they selected the "concatenating" tag, apparently without reading it. Or, alternatively, without caring about the spelling, which is much more likely. :(
 
@MsYvette answer fast, create sock puppets to upvote it to 2 and enjoy +100?
 
user3956566
@Tunaki yes yes a cunning, diabolical plan youtube.com/watch?v=AsXKS8Nyu8Q
 
12:19 PM
Awesome.
 
user3956566
hey another interesting meta on bounties meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/281462/…
 
Sam
Oh, hey. I've found another SO scraper. :p
 
What's it called?
 
Sam
http://stackoverflow.hex1.ru/
 
He doesn't even try to hide it :p
 
12:26 PM
What would be the point of hiding it?
 
user3956566
@Sam what is that?
 
@MsYvette Scraping: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_scraping (copying content from SO without attribution)
 
Sam
Annnd reported.
 
@TigerhawkT3 There is no point in hiding it, it's just that some sites hide all references to SO to make it look like it's theirs.
 
Sam
@MsYvette Evil people copying stuff without attribution.
 
user3956566
12:28 PM
yeh I block sites that do that
 
block? how?
 
Sam
Magic.
 
But if they don't hide it, it becomes a bit more suited to phishing. I mean, I don't know how they would benefit from stealing someone's SO account credentials, but I believe in human ingenuity.
 
@Sam Ah yes, of course.
 
user3956566
I mean on search results where sites use SO posts as their own, but they then link back to the SO post from their site.. I
 
user3956566
12:31 PM
sorry I'm talking about a completely different thing. this is what happens when I don't know what you're talking about cos read the wiki post, got bored and stopped...
 
Back, it's soooooo cold here!
 
user3956566
why are they evil what do they do?
 
@MsYvette Hmm...about that, as lambo477 said he need a + before arg. I don't know if that's a valid question or which is a typo.
 
Sam
They copy info whilst breaking the licence since they don't attribute it back.
And in this case, they're proxying the entire site.
Even the copyright in the footer.
 
sd remove- Our dear Sam edited
 
12:40 PM
That particular question started out as lacking the C and V in MCVE, then that was fixed but it still lacked a question other than "why isn't my code working," and only now is it anything resembling a real question. And that real question is "why does this fundamentally improper syntax produce a syntax error?".
 
user3956566
@Sam yeh there are sites that do that. I search in google only to discover they are pirating SO and I block them.. with a website blocker
 
Yam
A cv-p​ls'ed question has been edited (32% changed).
 
@MsYvette Do you also report them?
 
user3956566
nope never thought of that. Will do
 
Yam
12:42 PM
A cv-p​ls'ed question has been edited (77% changed).
 
I've seen so few legitimate SyntaxError questions. I think there's just "what happened to printing in Python 3," the ones where people try to use a dash in a variable name... maybe one or two more? But 99% of them are either "you have a typo" or "you've never seen the language."
 
@Sam Can Yam use the question's title like Smokey instead of question? Also, why don't use but cv-pls?
 
@Yam I edited that with the fiddle from OP's comment, it looks good now.
 
\o/
 
Sam
12:46 PM
\o/
 
\o/
 
user3956566
\o
 
\o/
 
Sam
@KevinGuan Titles aren't saved since they don't count towards the % calculations. We don't use the tag MD to avoid getting Yam's messages moved with the archiver.
 
Oh, that's fine.
 
12:48 PM
\o/
 
Sam
If you look closely, you'll see a zero-width char breaking up the cv-pls as well (just for good measure).
 
@Yam I edited that also. Is it still too broad?
 
@Sam Really? Where?
 
You would expect the close voters on meta are better in selecting the correct reason ... but evidence shows a different story: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/315304/…
 
You can't see zero-width characters. You can only trip over them.
 
Sam
12:51 PM
@KevinGuan Here.
 
Wow
 
@rene Gotta get those review badges you know (voted to reopen).
 
@Tunaki I'll slap those reviewers with my stinkin' badges...
 
1:06 PM
Night all.
 
user3956566
\o
 
Sam
Night
 
Night T3 o/
@Sam Is there a chat room to test bots?
 
Sam
If it's related to SOCVR, use the testing facility.
Otherwise it's generally better to just make your own room (less interference, etc.).
 
So... how can I create my own room? (don't think the testing facility is happy with the testing spam :p)
 
Sam
1:13 PM
Spamming is fine, that's the whole point of the room.
4
Spam as much as you like.
5
 
Will that room be listed in the rooms list?
 
Sam
Yes. Only private rooms aren't listed.
Yeah... everyone go star that outta context.
 
Is there a way to create a private room?
 
@Rob 15k answerer gets 6 upvotes for pointing out a missing semicolon ><
 
Sam
@Thaillie Nope, only mods can. You can create a gallery room though (read-only).
 
1:20 PM
Awh :(
 
@Sam there's no "private rooms" in SE context
 
Sam
@Braiam Mod-only rooms.
But yeah.
 
user3956566
@cimmanon it is embarrassing
 
user3956566
so much support for a typo. And some answers that take real effort get ignored
 
@Nordehinu stats
 
1:35 PM
9,551 need review
755 reviews today
3,072,415 reviews all-time
 
yeah its called Skype, @Thaillie
 
@Drew Teamspeak is better, but I wanted a hidden room to work on a SO chat bot :p
 
ah I see. Did you get your boy to 20 rep yet ?
 
Yup, now I just hope the answer stay in existence :p
 
stick an answer under one of my latest questions
 
1:40 PM
Ha ha ha @Drew...
 
no seriously I have a PHP tables question from a month ago
 
let's vote to close it then :p
 
funny thing is was a community wiki was sick of answering it
i think it was a wiki
 
user3956566
close what?
 
ha trying to help out someones bot, now someone wants to close one of my Q
 
1:42 PM
Sleep time, night everyone!
 
Sam
Night
 
user3956566
night K
 
honestly I don't know the nuances of SO. For instance, if I ask a comm wiki question and answer wiki (no points), does that force every new answer to be pointless (from a rep perspective) ?
 
@Drew I will write a new answer for that question in ~1 hour. Hate the quality of the code that is in the current answer :p
 
@KevinGuan No it is afternoon everyone. :D
 
1:47 PM
I know like nothing about PHP. I could get a gold in PHP and still know nothing
 
Good for you and your mental health.
 
@Drew Karma...
 
we got a live one
 
user3956566
does the OP's edits reset offensive flags?
 
a better question may be, can a mod see the history before you froze it ?
 
1:54 PM
why aren't people flagging
 
It's gone.
 
user3956566
the op edited it
 
thx cerb. Took one for the team
 
user3956566
what did Cerb do? I don't understand half this chat
 
Earn rep and you will.
:p
 
1:57 PM
can't tell you MsY
 
Sam
Afk for a bit
 
i read a blog post about a guy who knew nothing about java that followed the java tag and earned a shitload of rep by googling the answer to every question he saw >.>
 
user3956566
you have a link?
 
nah
 
@cimmanon I saw that too
 
1:59 PM
yeah saw that cimm
 
waitaminute
 
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