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3:25 AM
@gunr2171 I put that in the queue ;)
@rene @Deduplicator @easwee every with an accepted answer and also the ones with at least some positive score all have at least one delete vote
 
 
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1:41 PM
@durron597 Yes. And now all those have one by me too. This is the only question without accepted answer which still needs delete-votes, the rest will be roomba'd. The rest needing delete-votes have accepted answers‌​.
 
2:06 PM
@Deduplicator All the remaining ones with an accepted answer have 2 delete votes. I'm sure someone random in the 10k tools will hit them soon. As does that one you linked.
 
likely
 
Sam
There you go. That'll be one waffle, please.
 
@durron597 No, needs two more upvotes (on top answer or question) to need an extra delete-vote: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/50523/…
 
@Deduplicator Ah, it's 20:1. And the bounty doesn't matter?
 
2:11 PM
 
For some reason I thought it was 10:1
@gunr2171 Whoa. Waffle pancakes
 
@durron597 It was once 10:1, all answers count, unbounded
which was too much overkill by orders of magnitude
 
@gunr2171 Can you remove the stars against this message and pin the one I just star begged? (Or make me room owner, haha)
 
Already pinned it
 
Sam
@gunr2171 nom nom nom
 
2:13 PM
and done
 
thanks
IMO should be exactly one message in the star list asking for help at the top
The rest should be other things like pictures of red tape and...
waffles.
 
exactly, I try to keep the starboard clear of other messages
what else am I going to do when I'm bored? Post constructive images?
 
2:28 PM
@gunr2171 Answer questions on Stack Overflow?
I went to the new question list 6 times yesterday before I found one I could stomach answering.
 
When someone asks for a , is there any use for me to flag?
 
@Kyll It depends whether the person asking is out of votes (i'm not)
 
@Kyll if it doesn't have any CVs yet
 
Adding flags (I think) increased its exposure in the queue. so doesn't matter to us but maybe to others
 
2:52 PM
0
Q: Does flagging an already-flagged question for closure affect its status in the Close Vote queue?

TylerHI've read through a couple posts on CVs and flags, but couldn't find quite what I'm looking for. Shog already detailed how the CV Queue is sorta sorted already, in that questions in the queue with more votes either way will appear more frequently, and preference is also given to recently-queued ...

 
3:10 PM
@TylerH Thanks!
 
np
 
Well at least one benefit of creeping around here and flagging stuff is that my helpful flags count goes up fairly quickly, I'm above 350 now
 
that's good
I rarely add flags now since I got above 2000 rep
I am like 80 away from the Marshal badge
 
3:27 PM
Can someone answer a question about burnination?
 
Possibly
 
Well, let's try... Why is it necesary to down-vote a closed-but-highly-voted question like this when the tag could just be removed?
 
It isn't necessary
Whoever downvoted it just exercised their right to vote based on their opinion
They thought it wasn't a good question
 
I'm just referring to meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/292086/…, where that appears as the instructions under "Likely to need delete votes".
 
The downvote is probably not related to the effort to get the question deleted
it is infeasible to get the question to qualify for Roomba
I don't see it in that list, though
 
3:33 PM
Just that it would require 704 downvotes to get the Roomba to tidy it up.
 
oh I was sorted wrong
yes, delete votes are a different method for question deletion from the Roomba
that question would only need 3 - 5 delete votes
(like any question)
but, as you say, over 700 downvotes to get the Roomba to delete it
 
Ahhh... "DELETED". First time I've noticed that. I kept reading "close".
Well, it has my vote... and needs 9 more.
And away I go for a lovely lunch hour filled with delete votes!
 
It's always nice when spammers help you identify off-topic questions: stackoverflow.com/…
Please help close those questions before a moderator deletes all of the answers to find them.
 
@ArtjomB. hammered all
 
Do spam flags count as an auto downvote?
 
3:42 PM
I don't think so
 
or did everyone just downvote all those questions
as soon as I hit "flag" on each one they got downvoted
 
oh wait, I stand corrected
 
Sam
@TylerH Yes, they do.
 
From my own account?
or from the community
 
Sam
So do offensive flags.
 
3:42 PM
probably from Community
@ArtjomB. voted all
 
Sam
@TylerH I believe it's community.
 
great stuff!
 
(also voted on all)
PS Shog answered my question
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A: Does flagging an already-flagged question for closure affect its status in the Close Vote queue?

Shog9The system does recognize that there are multiple flags. However, this doesn't affect its priority in the queue; flags carry no weight when it comes to closure - no number of close flags will direct cause a post to be closed, nor will new flags "bump" a question in the queue. Additional flags a...

cc @Kyll
 
And they're all gone @ArtjomB.
also ChrisF has made the final votes where needed
 
@TylerH Got it, thanks again
 
3:49 PM
@Kyll So I guess the best thing to do with less than 3000 rep is to make a note of questions and check back a few days later to see if they've been closed.
if not, flag them.
 
... I think I'm going to be a bit more active on answers and get to 3k ^^
 
And, if you're active on Meta SO, the best thing there is to flag questions in tags that are being actively burninated
 
Now, everything is done. Thanks, guys! I wasn't sure if the mods would close the questions in addition to deleting the spam.
 
Your flags will push them into the queue, which is where the rest of us can handle them (and throw CVs at them)
 
Like the flagfest on ?
 
3:51 PM
Yup, exactly like that
 
apparently I didn't pin durron's message
 
@gunr2171 shame
 
well, I thought I did, I guess I mis-clicked
 
slight shame
 
see, I hit "leave open" instead of "pin this message", silly me
noon @rene
(like, it's exactly noon)
 
4:00 PM
I'll alert the media
 
yeah, I'm at the end of my workday, waiting for a dba to run some sqlscript on production...
 
how many of your fingers are crossed?
 
None, I trust myself
 
famous last words
 
I even found some time to debug some strange performance issue on it and added a query hint to make it go faster. This script is tested!
 
4:04 PM
sweet
 
normally I ask to run a backup before executing any script of mine... the dba will be pleased...
Ok, done, and the db is still up, I'm going home now....
 
:D
 
4:19 PM
@durron597 huh?
 
@TylerH I bumped a question you answered
 
oh
I would upvote it but unfortunately the system frowns upon that for some reason
 
user4639281
5:13 PM
@durron597 I asked for that on meta.SE a little while back, and I've seen a couple other posts asking for the same thing. It seems pretty popular.
 
6:03 PM
@TinyGiant you know what else seems pretty popular
 
user4639281
?
 
165
Q: Can we have a tool-tip with the full title for links to hot meta posts that don't fit into the side bar?

TylerHWhen browsing Stack Overflow, sometimes I will look at the Hot Meta Posts on the pinned area to the right of the questions. Unfortunately, some questions have very long titles, and so their titles get cut off. Example: Sometimes, this is solved by simply hovering over the link and looking at...

 
user4639281
That would be useful too.
 
for months
no response from devs :-(
6
A: Why did asking a question with zero-score cause me to get question-banned?

Shog9Of your 10 questions, 50% are downvoted, 33% are deleted, 20% score 0 and 20% score > 0. If you were gonna place a wager on the outcome of your next question, where would you put your money?

Never tell me the odds...
 
@TylerH Just noticed he isn't counting one of the person's questions (the totals reach 90%, not 100%)
Also, 33% of 10 questions?
 
6:18 PM
Don't shoot the messenger
 
That answer brings up so many follow up questions :(
 
@KevinBrown the percentages are not additive
they can overlap
since they're of different things
like 5% are brown and 99% are 6 feet tall
also as a sub-10k user you can't see his deleted questions
 
Oh wait, downvoted doesn't necessarily mean score < 0
 
but yes 3 out of 10 is probably where Shog got 33%
dunno why though
33% of 10? Sorry, @KevinBrown made me askTylerH 26 secs ago
happy?
 
user4639281
That would be exactly 30%
 
user4639281
6:22 PM
you should permalink the chat message in that comment
 
nooo don't want to bring him here
his wrath would be terrible; many would fall
@durron597 cheeky
 
Maybe the right thing to do is flag that tooltip question
or use the "contact us" form?
@TylerH I mean, it was a huge problem in codegolf and puzzles.
 
the monospace thing?
 
@TylerH yeah
 
6:24 PM
how?
 
You basically couldn't put code in spoiler tags
 
oh
 
it would remain visible.
 
Yeah, spoilers are kinda important on puzzles
 
darn, so everyone could see how lame the puzzle site is at first glance
 
6:25 PM
@TylerH Yeah, exactly
That's why I have the puzzles beta badge but haven't participated since. sigh
 
I hate that there are deprecated tags and unreachable tags sitting amidst the rest of them on SO
 
Bikeshed central
 
like, the Analytical badge is replaced with the Informed one completely
why keep it around? Just replace any Analytical one with Informed and then burninate
 
In other news, I got my 8th delete vote today!
 
also, Precognitive and Beta should be in a separate/special section
no one can earn them anymore
 
6:27 PM
@TylerH I think they're just to reward the people who have been here forever
 
even "Other" would be better
 
Jon Skeet doesn't have enough badges yet.
 
@durron597 yeah I'm fine with them existing
just not in "participation"
because I will never be able to fill out that badge section :-/
it already would be monumental thanks to the legendary badge -_-
aside from those two that I can't earn, only epic and legendary remain in that section
I'm close to filling out moderation as well, save for the "serve as a moderator" badges
 
@TylerH Maybe you should get some delete votes ;)
 
@durron597 working on it
still 3500 rep to go
 
6:31 PM
@durron597 LFWA (looks fine; will add)
That's in reference to the [help/mcve] magic comment mso post
 
user4639281
Awesome, can't wait.
 
user4639281
BREAKING: NASA just released the latest image from the #PlutoFlyby http://on.mash.to/1TzBvVj http://t.co/tYKCnRNhpV
 
I didn't realize my answer had gotten so many upvotes
 
user4639281
Pluto has a heart
 
so annoying that I don't get notified
 
6:37 PM
Well, I answered another question, sure to please durron597
 
downvote; too long
 
: (
 
user4639281
The explanation is at the bottom...
 
but it fits on my screen! It's like 1/3 the size of a standard Shog question
@TinyGiant let me see, I'm debating moving that
 
user4639281
I like it when I can understand everything that I'm going to learn before learning it. Otherwise I end up breaking down the code and figuring it out before reading the explanation. Then the explanation itself is unnecessary for people like me. Much less work to read and understand the answer if the explanation is first. I like questions like that too.
 
6:43 PM
Explanations for code should be included inline with the code, or before as a preface
tl;dr on the other hand, by definition, should come after
despite what I've done in some of my answers
 
hum, I did write the explanation after the code in an edit, I'll try to move it around
 
user4639281
@TylerH I would rather the tl;dr section at the top, otherwise I'll read the whole post then read that section.
 
user4639281
Other users may skim the post to find out what information is contained within the post before finding a position to start, but I always start from the beginning then read to the end.
 
@TinyGiant how do you know the post is too long to read if you don't scan it first
 
user4639281
First one was already closed.
 
6:47 PM
it stands for too long; didn't read
not too long; wont read
 
user4639281
@TylerH I read the whole thing no matter what. I would rather read the summary first.
 
tl;dr shouldn't be a full summary
it should be a one or two liner
 
user4639281
Not that it should be that way, that's just the way I prefer it. And it should summarize everything important in the post
 
summary should like a paper abstract
 
I would close a paper as too broad
 
6:49 PM
@rene, I edited, removed the EF line. That was originally because I thought the requirement was string.Join, but I tried to make it more general. EF should be fine.
 
OK
Let me remove my comment then
first one already voted on, others done
 
Thank you, it worked. What does checking the "Define Trace constant" box do? — DanCode 27 mins ago
/facepalm
 
user4639281
@gunr2171 Much more readable +1
 
@rene Those were the last two accepted questions
 
@TinyGiant yep, you're right. I like that better. Curse me for adding that block of text as an afterthought
 
user4639281
6:56 PM
@TylerH Looking at the user I realized that I called it back when they first started posting on MSO, sort of... I don't think you can get banned from MSO
 
@TinyGiant wrong ping?
 
user4639281
You posted the reference to the question posted by the user I was referring to
 
he's talking about Narawa, the author of the question linked beat me too it
 
Oh, I posted a link to an answer by Shog
it wasn't in reference to the associated question
 
user4639281
Yes but it was referenced in the answer to that question
 
7:02 PM
-2
Q: Why did asking a question with zero-score cause me to get question-banned?

Narawa GamesI recently got hit with this infamous message when I was about to ask a question on Stack Overflow: You have reached your question limit. Sorry, we are no longer accepting questions from this account. See the Help Center to learn more. The Help Center says that you get question-banned ...

 
user4639281
That one
 
and now using the above link as context:
6 mins ago, by Tiny Giant
@TylerH Looking at the user I realized that I called it back when they first started posting on MSO, sort of... I don't think you can get banned from MSO
ok, we good? we good.
 
user4639281
Good
 
@TinyGiant what was referenced?
 
56 mins ago, by TylerH
6
A: Why did asking a question with zero-score cause me to get question-banned?

Shog9Of your 10 questions, 50% are downvoted, 33% are deleted, 20% score 0 and 20% score > 0. If you were gonna place a wager on the outcome of your next question, where would you put your money?

 
user4639281
7:04 PM
TylerH > answer > question > user
 
I see now
 
co-co-co-co-combo breaker
 
you were saying you predicted that the OP there would get banned
 
user4639281
Yes
 
the explanation of how it was linked was just incredible esoteric
 
user4639281
7:07 PM
That user seemed like a bad apple when we were all laughing about their downvotes (and obsession with rep) on MSE, then the user was question banned there and they moved to MSO, then they started posting on SO. I did not think it would end well.
 
Distracted, @TylerH — Shog9 ♦ 2 mins ago
I was hoping it would be a more interesting reason
 
user4639281
@rene you might have some input here
 
user4639281
0
Q: Support for SEDE search by OP's country?

πάντα ῥεῖI'm not the best creating SEDE searches on StackOverflow. Also I'm not sure if this question is appropriate on meta SO. Is there a SEDE search definition for questions based on OP's country information (as far present) available? I would actually want to see how question score relates to countr...

 
that query....so long....
 
@TinyGiant yeah, I'm on it
 
user4639281
7:19 PM
@gunr2171 Very long query
 
user4639281
@rene Awesome, I think of you everytime I think of SEDE :)
 
@TinyGiant well, there are 50146 different "locations" people have, so you sort of have to work with a long list of pre-defined countries
 
user4639281
Yeah, Canada didn't even make the list? :(
 
Sorry eh
Canada's at rank 18
 
user4639281
Oh, must have missed it lol
 
7:23 PM
and #6 in terms of total rep
@Closey status
 
SOCVR ChatBot version 1.0.0.0, running for 4 days, 2 hours, 14 minutes and 44 seconds.
 
@Closey starting
 
@gunr2171 By the power of the Vote! Review!
 
user4639281
Don't you love it when high rep users answer typo questions instead of voting to close and moving on?
 
@TinyGiant And I had a brainfart and upvoted his answer because I didn't even see the typo
 
7:31 PM
such is life
 
However, as soon as I thought about it for another 20 seconds I removed the upvote ;)
 
user4639281
lol
 
user4639281
Well it looks like the OP might just accept that answer, requiring delete votes... ugh, such a waste of energy.
 
> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[source-code] [software-tools]"
@Closey next 3 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@gunr2171 The next 3 tags are: 117, 96, 91
 
user4639281
7:36 PM
I'm still not allowed, thanks to some bad audits
 
: (
passed c# audit
 
user4639281
There's a good comment answer from john skeet
 
+ opinionated
 
Jon Skeet is 6 bronze badges away from 6666
 
Jon Skeet has more "nice answer" badges that you have answers
 
user4639281
7:45 PM
He also has more comment-answers than I have answers I'm sure (from when the rules were more lax)
 
Some day, people will ask six more questions about Microsoft Edge, and I'll get the Taxonomist badge. I can't wait for that day
 
I'm finished answering the SEDE mso post
@Closey starting
 
@rene Good luck!
 
@gunr2171 shudders
 
7:50 PM
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@gunr2171 Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
@Closey last session stats
 
@gunr2171 Your last completed review session ended 4 seconds ago and lasted 20 minutes and 5 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 30 seconds.
 
@gunr2171 boom
 
:D
 
7:54 PM
What is wrong with Android Contacts that so many users want the source code?
 
shrug
 
hehe
"I want to make Android Contacts more like Apple Contacts"
 
Buy an iPhone
 
user4639281
Then smash it
 
At least it's not "Hi how do I use Swift to make apps on my Nexus 5"
 
7:57 PM
let me not search for that...
 
@TinyGiant this is the correct course of action if you ever find yourself in possession of an iPhone
 
user4639281
Yes, although I find that as the main course of action when I find myself in possession of any phone, I don't like people being able to get ahold of me wherever I am...
 
less than a minute for code review elections to finish
 
user4639281
I once threw a phone at the ground, it bounced off of the concrete over a fence and into a fire, but it was a flip phone so I was justified.
 
@durron597 200_success already has a diamond?
 
8:02 PM
@gunr2171 He's a pro-tem
this is their first election
 
ah
oh, so Code Review is finally graduating, great
lol, the Community user on CR has 5 rep
 
@gunr2171 just enough to participate in Meta
 
well, the main account is back to 1, so once that syncs then no
 
> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 3 hours to continue reviewing.
 
@rene Thanks for reviewing! To see more information use the command last session stats.
 
8:09 PM
@Closey last session stats
 
@rene Your last completed review session ended 34 seconds ago and lasted 21 minutes and 23 seconds. You reviewed 40 items, averaging a review every 32 seconds.
 
OK
last 12 were on database
 
I am in training right now; will run through source-code when I get done
 
First-Aid training? Cupcakes? Skydiving without a parachute (no refund possible)?
 
ICD-10 training
 
8:20 PM
Oh cool, you're active in the medical stuff?
 
I work in a hospital and it is mandatory training for all employees
Though I am at least marginally interested in health science and medicine on a personal level
 
OK, I have written some software when I started my career that dealt with ICD.
 
nice
the interface developers are on our team
dunno why it makes sense to combine interface developers and web developers
but whatever
 
They missed have missed the user in interface
 
Flagged; dunno how much cna be done
 
8:42 PM
ahhh someone took my accept away, i'm back down to 12993
hm, i wonder if i get back up to 13003 i'll get my delete vote back
 
@durron597 problem solved
 
@TylerH Lets see if I got it back. Anyway thanks
Nope, no bug.
 
and I'm out for today, bye!
 
user4639281
Bye :)
 
o/
 
9:06 PM
Anyone know anything about sharepoint
 
depends on which version
 
@TylerH Oh my question is stupidly basic.
@TylerH stackoverflow.com/q/7854296/1768232 What is the right thing to do with this post?
 
well 2013 is radically different from 2010
oh
well it should be moved to SharePoint.SE
but that's not an option anymore
 
It's a dumb question but should be allowed to remain in that form? Or custom close "sharepoint questions are off-topic but it's too old to migrate"
 
thanks, date cutoff
 
9:09 PM
It seems like a bad question but it should remain open, I guess?
 
You can ask SharePoint-based questions on Stack Overflow if they involve programming outside of the SharePoint-specific language
 
user4639281
simple error?
 
If you put the first CV on it I'll put the second, or we can just leave it as I did
 
user4639281
damn upvoted accepted answer
 
user4639281
voted
 
9:10 PM
That is not the correct close reason
 
user4639281
?
 
That's not what that close reason is for
 
user4639281
oh ok, you were not agreeing with me, misunderstood
 
the question doesn't seem to be about SharePoint though, just "how to reload a page"
 
I'm too stupid to google is "unclear what you're asking" - "what problem are you having?"
"I can't figure out why you were unable to solve this problem in 15 seconds in front of a search engine. what help do you need exactly?"
It's not a typographical error and it can be reproduced... technically.
 
9:12 PM
I voted as too broad because "some other time" is not specific enough
 
user4639281
Sharepoint has nothing to do with it, then the question can be boiled down to "how do I reload a page with javascript"
 
Okay, sharepoint tag removed.
 
user4639281
Then I'm sure there is an appropriate duplicate
 
@TylerH @TinyGiant Thanks for your help
 
user4639281
Literally, the contents of the question could be "How can I make a page reload via javascript?" and mean the exact same thing
 
user4639281
9:15 PM
Not sure what the reaction would be if it was changed though...
 
Opinion question: Do you guys remove stuff like "I have the following problem and I hope you guys can help me." when editing?
I always do
 
@durron597 yes because it's fluff
same as "thank you" and "I have a doubt"
if it doesn't help describe the problem with the code, I usually remove it
 
user4639281
Yes, I'll remove anything that isn't directly related to the question
 
user4639281
That just means it's a poorly written question
 
Sam
9:18 PM
@durron597 Same here.
 
user4639281
Here's a duplicate for that reload question stackoverflow.com/questions/16248003/javascript-reload-page
 
I already used my CV, maybe @Sam can put the duplicate vote down
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
 
9:21 PM
Those three aren't exact duplicates of each other
 
user4639281
The answers are
 
@TinyGiant Voted to close the fourth as duplicate of the second.
 
user4639281
lol
 
Sam
@durron597 Sure.
Wait, can I have a link to the dupe parent please?
 
9:24 PM
148
Q: How to reload a page using Javascript?

ReshHow I can reload the page using Javascript? I need a method that works in all browsers.

 
Sam
Thanks.
 
Sam
Done.
 
@Sam Thanks
 
Sam
Np. I'll drop a cv on the other one in a sec.
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
@durron597 We need a javascript gold badge to go through all questions asking how to reload a page with javascript and dupe them to that one
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
10:17 PM
@durron597 maybe a delete vote on this question to put it in the queue? stackoverflow.com/q/31415563/4639281 the answerer doesn't seem to have any intention of removing their answer so it won't be deleted automatically.
 

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