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We will now return you to your regularly scheduled moderation activities.
 
@rene Great!
 
user4639281
Well, there you go.
 
6:00 PM
@AlexanderO'Mara yeah, should have seen that coming
 
I am off guys. It was fun
 
And... back to business
 
Working time!
 
Party is over, thank you everyone for a great time!
 
user3956566
 
user4639281
6:00 PM
@gunr2171 Which part?
 
:P
 
@Tunaki sd is in party
 
Sam

Party: 3 million reviews

1 hour ago, 1 hour total – 307 messages, 21 users, 151 stars

Bookmarked 8 secs ago by Sam

 
We lost Smokey in the mean time
 
@MsYvette Okay okay this the last one :D
 
6:01 PM
Let's hope it takes two years to get to 4M
 
@Sam 307 messages, 21 users, 151 stars
 
!!/alive
 
Sam
lol
We killed Smokey.
 
smokey was over memed
 
@rene Can we have a party when we reviewed 1k rep? Please :P
 
6:02 PM
@Sam Ugg, off by one error :P
 
!!/reboot
 
Goodbye, cruel world
 
!!/alive
 
@Closey status
 
SOCVR ChatBot version 1.0.0.0, running for 11 days, 22 hours, 26 minutes and 36 seconds.
 
user4639281
6:02 PM
He dun did died der bai.
 
Any how, back to business:
 
Sam
Yussss, C# ftw. Take that Python.
 
At least closey survided
 
Two questions left in (part of the great legal cleanup): 1 and 2
 
Smokey is still in mad mode
!!/reboot
 
6:02 PM
Goodbye, cruel world
 
!!/alive
So @Undo you're here, what's wrong?
 
We're making a transition from ProgramFOX's server to mine
 
@KevinBrown This question cannot be deleted because other questions are linked as duplicates of this one.
 
@KevinBrown 1 can't be deleted as it is a dupe target
 
!!/alive?
 
6:03 PM
@Undo Kinda sorta
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara Just close it as a tool request, no use closing garbage as a duplicate of garbage.
 
@Undo Ah, you should say that earlier :)
 
Usually people don't try to reboot it during a transition :P
 
user4639281
@Undo When you're free later I may have a way to improve blaze.
 
6:04 PM
So, I think something is really off with this user. All the answers link to the same couple of links
 
didn't think of that edge condition eh?
 
@Tunaki mod flag is needed.
 
but I can't put my finger on what it is actually spamming for
 
@TinyGiant I'm somewhat free now, want to talk about it in chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/11540/charcoal-hq?
 
@Tunaki One of them is a R legit site though stackoverflow.com/questions/9398556/svm-function-in-r/…
 
user4639281
6:05 PM
@Tunaki No posts in a year, then 3 in relatively quick succession, smells funny.
 
There's a lot of link to "girlincomputerscience.blogspot.com"
 
@Tunaki That is the fake one.
 
Anyway, sleep time. Good night everyone. Today really is a funny day. I love it! However, wish everyone also enjoy it. This really is a good party, thanks all ROs, bots, SOCVR, and Stack Overflow. Good night!
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
@KevinGuan night \o
 
6:06 PM
/o
 
Sam
Cya
 
Well, I'm out
 
Ciao both of ya
 
bye
 
user3956566
@Tunaki bye \o
 
user4639281
6:08 PM
Cya
 
user3956566
I think she links to all different sites mainly, I edited out the latest and made a comment
 
she might want to modify the 2nd paragraph here stackoverflow.com/a/34366488
that is an epic fail paragraph
 
user3956566
@Drew slight typo LOLOLOLOL
 
Smokey doesn't detect that?
 
I need to look that one up
 
user3956566
6:13 PM
yeh I ended up custom flagging, there were a few too many. Also this has a heap of link only answers stackoverflow.com/questions/4232380/…
 
user4639281
> How to coding ?
 
user4639281
I gotta run for a little bit, I'll be back soon.
 
user3956566
bye
 
Bye
 
Sam
Bye
> Still no idea what's being said in the bullet list.
 
user3956566
6:21 PM
Is anyone interested in voting to delete this stackoverflow.com/questions/4232380/…?
 
@MsYvette Batman!
 
i.stack.imgur.com/DzHZ1.png ... The first guy there :P
 
user3956566
@AlexanderO'Mara and is that you at this stage looks at batman hat :D
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao thanks. I don't have delete votes yet
 
I like that question for mahout resources. Not that it should be collecting a ton of new answers
 
user3956566
6:26 PM
@Drew that's what browser bookmarks are for :D
 
@MsYvette My only hesitation there is that I can't find a decent list on Google
On the other hand, that looks like a spam magnet
It's also pretty subjective
 
then again people would be over on opendata
 
user3956566
@KevinBrown as I said to Drew, that what browser bookmarks are for. It takes time to collect a decent collection of resources and I find it a bit irritating when people ask for them here, like why don't they do what everyone else has to do and do some research and read and form opinions
 
What is wrong with asking for a function in a language's own standard library? — Nayuki Minase 1 min ago
Is it wrong?
 
for that matter @MsYvette all these questions are irritating :P
 
user3956566
6:30 PM
@Drew yep :D
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao I think case by case, if it's about a programming language and one if it's libraries/methods, I think it's ok, particularly when there's code involved. It's different to the .. how do I do this.. type of questions
 
@MsYvette The title was way way ot for anyone at first glance
> Is there a Python library function that returns the value at subscript 0?
 
user3956566
anyway, I'm going back to bed for a bit, it's 5.30 and I got up to join the party
 
Ciao o/
 
user3956566
@BhargavRao totally agree and I like your edit
 
user3956566
6:32 PM
\o
 
is it me or is this NAA stackoverflow.com/a/34319376
 
@Tunaki just finished part 1. Hum, part 2 will be fun
 
user4842163
@Drew Seems pretty safe to say so: "@Drew: I am confirming the problem."
 
@Drew Commented
 
it has been in the review queue pending for 2 days
im like huh?
 
6:35 PM
 
@BhargavRao you have a typo last word
and th
x
 
Thanks for tellin before the timeout. :P
I asked a question on meta regarding that meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/312954/…
 
good question
 
Partially hoping for Sun Wukong ;)
 
7:01 PM
@KevinGuan are you around or any python peeps ?
 
ah yes I need my cheat sheet
is py2app obvious to python peeps? stackoverflow.com/a/34374232
 
@Drew Nope, never heard of it
 
ie: should I kill my comment under that Answer
 
The question is about py2app, so I'd actually assume that anyone looking at it is aware of what py2app is
 
7:03 PM
ok maybe I should re-phrase. Is my comment appropriate as it dishes people of for some code somewhere
obviously the guy is high rep
 
The url looks suspicious
 
@Drew It is the original website of the developer of py2app
 
I was googling
 
That then links to the tutorial. But IMHO, he shouldv'e linked to the tutorial first
 
7:09 PM
thx
 
@Rizier123 FYI, I've fixed the problem you reported, github.com/Tiny-Giant/Stack-Exchange-Editor-Toolkit/issues/95
 
Sam
Track of the day. Again, more contemporary classical (can't remember if I've posted this before).
 
^seriously, that edit was aweful
 
7:14 PM
26 - 21 hats ... Nearing an invincible lead.
 
@cybermonkey If there's a pattern, flag one of their posts and mention it
 
Sam
@KevinBrown Edited by anon.
 
MagicEditor™ 1.5.2.50 available. Includes fixes for three annoying bugs - upgrade strongly recommended.
2
 
Sam
And yes, I've seen this person submit quite a few of these edits.
 
@Sam I was talking about the reviewers, who approved the edit
 
Sam
7:16 PM
Oh.
Right.
 
@Drew That spam website name tho :P
 
that what tho ?
 
website name
That user got a 100 rep slide!
 
@Drew User is blacklisted. (5140548 on stackoverflow.com).
 
7:18 PM
@BhargavRao that would be called "The Electric Slide"
 
Lol..
 
Nite
 
Sam
Night
 
Gntc
I am still awake only because I have 4 cvs left
 
TeamViewer I say. We'd be glad to take over your box :P
 
7:29 PM
@BhargavRao give this man some VLQ posts
 
Lol... I would if I could.
 
yeah right ! Tunaki is going to be away for a few days. What a waste of 100 flags eh?
 
So where's he goin...
(I hate to patrol the NAOQ alone)
 
I think tied up with inlaws or something
I am running way low
 
@Drew 97
 
7:35 PM
(removed)
 
@Drew haven't got it installed and I'm kinda busy (server maintainance, got the replacement drive today, fitted it, & cloning the old dead HDD)
 
oh yes the seagate fiasco
 
ended up moving the backups from the fast seagate enterprise drive to the new WD, and then cloning the old server HDD to the seagate enterprise drive
and also killed off the old dead drive completely by taking it apart :D
 
that may very well do it
 
now I have a single shiny 320GB platter I don't know what to do with. maybe store it or something.
and then write 'AVENGE ME' on it so future me in 3-4 years finding it will do something. hmm.
 
user4842163
7:42 PM
The way he worded his question gives my brain a stack overflow: "I want to load this image when it gets visible on screen and it must not load the image until it is not visible on screen. "
 
@Drew Yeah will be here intermitently
 
@SmokeDetector cv-pls
 
(removed)
 
@Tunaki ?
 
@Braiam Nevermind, I understood what you meant after I posted
 
7:44 PM
Ok... All votes consumed. Can peacefully sleep now.
Bye all o/
 
@BhargavRao Still flags left?
 
user4639281
Bye
 
over and out
 
Sam
Cya
 
@Tunaki Yeah, but no energy. :(
Ciao
 
7:45 PM
Bye :)
So... anyone has any clue about part 2?
 
@Tunaki I was thinking A* pathfinding, still thinking about how to go about it though
 
Well, after 8 iterations, there's already 1 million molecules possible after all the combinations
And the molecule generated are of length 25 on average, which is very far from the ~500 we have to reach
 
ummm, what? Chemistry?
 
Somehow I need to find a way to kill a path and not continue generating sub-path from it
 
7:55 PM
So, maybe a recursive BFS?
 
machine learning!
 
A* has the problem of not discarding known-bad subtrees quick enough
(if done iteratively, like it usually is)
 
The question is, how do you figure out a subtree is bad?
 
Hm, good point
 
8:01 PM
@Drew User is not blacklisted. (5699005 on stackoverflow.com).
 
@Drew User blacklisted (5699005 on stackoverflow.com).
 
why did you blacklist this user? The post is bad but not spam, is it?
 
give it 2 secs
who is going to run eval on that block from a first day user ?
 
Ha, you're thinking this is doing something malicious?
 
8:04 PM
well T you can still see the code, give it a shot :P
 
hmm
maybe not :D
 
Yeah, it's a bit sketchy
 
ya think
here is an outlandish idea: First day user comes in with "eval" and a block. Maybe a report is auto-generated
 
After looking at the code, it doesn't actually appear to be malicious. It's just useless, and would never actually run (there's a missing variable somewhere)
 
@Drew Does it happen often?
 
8:10 PM
idk
 
does anyone know how to open a new tab to the question you're currently editing?
 
@JonnyHenly middle-click the question title in the edit
 
user4639281
ctrl + back
 
@JonnyHenly Middle click on the question title or on the reload button.
 
user4639281
People and their middle clicks.
 
8:13 PM
how many buttons are on your mice !
 
@TinyGiant With touch it's middle fingers
 
Sam
Middle click, low click and, high click.
 
@cybermonkey for some reason theres no question title
to click
 
I middle click all the time. And when I don't have a mouse, I'm lost
 
user4639281
@MadaraUchiha So I just flip the bird at my computer and it reloads the page?
 
Sam
8:14 PM
@JonnyHenly Old fashion way: copy the URL, open a new tab, paste 'nd go.
 
ah yes, then use Ctrl + Back
 
Sam
Chat no supprtz kbd.
 
In Firefox, you can middle-click the "Reload" icon to open a new tab to the same page
 
@Tunaki just tried, works on Chrome too
 
@Sam : ) I though of doing that too but the URI doesn't point to the question
 
user4639281
8:15 PM
The one time, at band camp, I middle clicked.
 
Sam
In Russia, you don't middle click URLs, URLs middle click you.
@JonnyHenly What?
How come?
 
@cybermonkey ahh I forgot about ye old Ctrl+Back
 
user4639281
3 mins ago, by Tiny Giant
ctrl + back
 
@Sam not sure, I was confused as well
 
user4639281
Alright, back to work.
 
user4639281
8:16 PM
See you guys in a bit
 
Sam
Cya
 
Bye
 
Bad news Ctrl+Back redirected to the edit page I'm already on
 
@JonnyHenly What's the actual problem? You're giving us a XY I think :D
 
what's up with the unclear questions all of a sudden?
 
8:19 PM
sorry, I didn't know which chat room to join
 
Sam
@cybermonkey Sorry, ninja'd your edit there.
 
Moving on to with the legal-related cleanup, only 5 tags left before it's pretty much done
 
it's Saturday night, we're the most active room
 
as usual
 
Sam
Yeah
 
8:20 PM
i'll ask on meta
 
@Tunaki does this pass as full disclosure for you it seems to me stackoverflow.com/a/34374686/1816093
Just trying to get my bearings on the issue
 
@Drew Actually, this was a link-only and I edited in the code from the link
 
thx
 
And somehow the OP removed part of it?
 
i clearly am not that observant
 
8:21 PM
@Drew Seems reasonable after the edit
 
Well it's not spam IMO
 
@Mogsdad any chance to add recognition of tags in titles (detecting tags on the question, compare to title)?
 
So for part 2, I figured that if you split the molecule you have around the replacement keys and that none of the parts you get are in the target molecule, you can drop it (it is for sure bad)
But that doesn't drop the possibilities nearly enough. After 8 iterations, I still have ~800000 nodes
(of average length 28)
hey but actually, all of the parts must be in the target,hmm... Well that still leaves ~600000 nodes after 8 iterations...
 
^ that says I agree
 
8:28 PM
@Tunaki yay! two cv reqs for the same question :D
 
Well... rene will kick me now
 
Sam
@Tunaki And so flow forth thee drossful answer.
 
@cybermonkey I went tool rec. Too broad is prob better. But i dont wanna take a cv count away by doing a retract
 
is this answer link-only?
 
Obviously the answer to everything is "I'd use XML files"
 
8:31 PM
@Tunaki I'd use a local SQLite db, but that's just me
 
Sam
@Tunaki Sure.
2
 
I was kidding btw
 
is it possible to remove stuff from smokey's detection?
 
@SmokeDetector Sorry Smokey, please accept my humblest apologies
 
IMHO >>> should be removed as 'bad'
 
Sam
8:33 PM
It's commonly used in spam.
 
Sam
Mainly on MSE, math.se, ubuntu.se and drupal.se.
 
@Sam what about if someone asks a question about C++'s cin and the error turns out to be one too many >? :D
 
Sam
Well, that has happened before, I think.
 
And it's f
 
Sam
8:36 PM
@cybermonkey Better as a comment imo.
Still shouldn't be around in its current state, but that's just my personal zero-tolerance of rubbish.
Sigh, more tag-only editors.
Anyway.
 
Someone has a good auto-comment for a user posting an answer twice on the same question? Example: stackoverflow.com/a/34375195/1743880
 
Sam
Dec 8 at 14:19, by Tim Castelijns
@Sam spread not thy filth, for we wish for a clean site
 
how about this one we saw today: i.imgflip.com/w1h4k.jpg
 
lol
 
8:58 PM
this guy is starting to get a bit spammie on tabulate. 5 in last hour. He must be excited about it stackoverflow.com/users/1370349/nicolas-rinaudo
 
^ saw that but the OP is giving full disclosure
 
not on the one I DV'd
sadly I had to read them all
 
> mainly because I'm the author
 
found it
 
It would be interesting to have a "helpful flags count" leaderboard. Maybe it would give incentive to people to flag posts.
 
Sam
9:07 PM
@Tunaki Please no. People would start flagging everything.
Just like editing.
 
But they wouldn't be helpful
 
Sam
People would think, "Hey, I might get a helpful flag from this post, I'll flag it!"
 
lol
 
People often feel the need for a special thank you now don't they
 
9:15 PM
By the way, this got me thinking. Would it be wrong to upvote the post the OP is refering to? Obviously, it helped him and since they can't upvote...?
But yeah it's probably a very bad idea. If people then knew they would post answers like this all over the place
(not that they don't do that already...)
 
Is it morally wrong to upvote a question one is answering if the op has, say, 11 rep. And the question ain't that great?
 
You mean that OP could potentially vote on that answer?
 
+25 instead of +15 yeah (potentially)
@Drew Let me reverse this. Is it morally wrong to answer if the question ain't that great :D
 
depends on how "not that great" the question is
 
I'm off, night all! o/
 
Sam
9:26 PM
Cya
 
@Tunaki are you asking me to look at your Answer history :P
good nite T
 
user4639281
Boo!
 
Sam
Woo!
 
user4639281
Foo!
 
user4842163
9:45 PM
I think a basic question, provided that it's on-topic, can spawn some great answers.. if only in the various ways they attempt to educate the person asking the question. stackoverflow.com/questions/33829566/for-loop-with-pointer-in-c
 
Sam
@Ike Superfluous text should be removed, not given nice formatting
 
user4842163
@Sam The strikeout parts? Yeah, but I did that edit late. I'm always afraid of screwing with the people who answer by changing the Q in even a subtle way.
 
user4842163
If the Q is fresh and early, I'll more confidently edit it in a more intrusive fashion.
 
Sam
Good answers will ignore such text.
Hence will remain valid and understandable.
 
user4842163
I ended up getting someone to write a haiku for an answer: stackoverflow.com/a/34312414/4842163
 
user4842163
9:51 PM
But I think this is the finest answer of them all.. going above and beyond by making an animated GIF to answer the question: stackoverflow.com/a/34375449/4842163
 
Sam
@Ike Having just given most of the answers a quick read, that edit wouldn't appear to mess with any of them.
Afk
 
user4842163
@Sam Ah yay -- my English is not perfect so I tend to be afraid of the "butterfly effect".
 
@Ike I made an animated gif once for an answer, it was downvoted to hell :(
 
user4842163
@cybermonkey What sort of animated GIF was it? :-D
 
user4639281
@cybermonkey I said simply "No" in an answer once, it got upvoted.
 
user4639281
9:54 PM
 
user4842163
@TinyGiant I noticed an answer sifting through old ones where someone gave two answers to two Qs: "No" and "Nope", and got like 50 up-votes.
 
user4842163
I got somewhat of a meta interest in SO answers since I taught CS 101/102 for a brief period... even if the answer doesn't teach me something new, it might teach me a new way to teach a subject.. a new angle/approach... and that's still something new.
 
10:13 PM
@closey next 3 tags
 
Refreshing the tag listing. Please wait...
@Drew The next 3 tags are: 89, 65, 56
 
@Drew I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Drew passed a audit!
 
i forgot to not cvpls with stuff in queue !
 
Sam
10:30 PM
@Ike Np, you could always ask in here if you need help deciding when you edit stuff. :)
I edit more than anything else really, so I'd be happy to help.
 
@cybermonkey Anything is possible with software. No, wait. Much is possible with software. Anything is possible with Magic! Does this FR sound like what you mean? Feel free to add comments if you want.
 
user4639281
@Mogsdad Gotta get around to doing that :P
 
There are two things I want to do with tags; remove them from headings of course. But also recognize if they've been edited, and add a note in the summary.
 
user4639281
So, when do we actually edit tags? Or are you talking about if you edit the tags that it should append a reason.
 
10:55 PM
just asked this, probably won't be received well since its minor: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/312965/large-hats-break-the-ui
@KevinGuan You're the star in that bug report :P
 
Sam
> The problem is that when hats are too big, they affect any content nearby.
Pfft, that's nothing. Check my profile.
 
changed question slightly
 
Sam
And meta's being meta.
 
it's not a bug; just annoying
it's the UI jumping around ~1s-2s later after loading that's really bugging me, not the actual placement.
 
user4639281
11:11 PM
It's supposed to be position absoluted, so the ui shouldn't jump
 
Sam
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It won't last for too much longer now.
Wb Kyll
 
rolls eyes
Are you saying that you're in software development & you don't know what beta testing is? Jobs is in beta, so expect bad/buggy things to happen. — cybermonkey 1 min ago
 
11:28 PM
 
Sam
Night all
 
user4639281
Night
 
user4842163
11:53 PM
gnight
 
user4639281
gnight
 

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