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12:01 PM
@Kyll Hey, what do you think about my new auto-comment? :P
> ###[Q] There're too many reasons to close this question
There are either too many possible reasons, or good reasons would be too long for this format to close this question. Please [edit] you question and tell us which reason should we use to close this question.
 
Lol, avoid posting that xD
 
nice :D
 
:D
The idea is from @DavidG's message:
41 mins ago, by DavidG
@bob too broad, opinion based, no MCVE and potentially asking for offsite resource!
 
@KevinGuan I've heard you like reasons :D
 
@easwee :P
Also mine:
40 mins ago, by Kevin Guan
@DavidG If it's I'll vote to close it as too broad...because the reason is too broad.
 
12:05 PM
Does any of the bots record questions that just got a CV and now have 4?
would be cool if there was this kind of detection and post like smokey does - just with tag
 
@easwee Sounds good, added into my Todo-list:
> Write a bot called
 
cool
or just extend a current bot :P
either is cool
 
:P
@cimmanon Wow, @Kyll do you remember the OP?
 
@KevinGuan whats so special about the OP?
 
@cimmanon wait...
@cimmanon Well, my bad. Not that guy. But I remember him...where did I see him?
 
12:12 PM
@KevinGuan Inception again
wow I'm getting good at this
 
@Tunaki Inception ?
Ah, I should @Undo :P
 
Undo's old message (No one-box, I know)
 
one-boxing is fine, just don't overdo it.
 
@DavidG Yeah, no need it :P
@Tunaki Wow, check this
 
12:16 PM
@cimmanon Closed
 
All I can see is "Image not found": they are blocked where I work :)
 
@Tunaki Ah, okay. Let me tell you: The link is url/全面启动(Yeah, I link reading Chinese version), but the title is url/盗梦空间 :P
Sound like I clicked so/tagged/python but entered so/tagged/ruby.
:)
 
Rejected the edit too as irrelevant tag
 
@Tensibai Okay, rejected.
@easwee like this? :P
 
something like that yes
or 4-votes
whatever :P
 
12:29 PM
@easwee :D
 
woo just hit 13500 cvs
 
@Closey stats
 
7,348 need review
1,536 reviews today
2,924,169 reviews all-time
 
7.3k, fine. reviews all-time is 2,924,169, when it can become 3,000,000?
 
hmm
 
12:36 PM
At that time maybe we can have a party? :)
 
soon :P
10 days = 400 reviews
I wonder how many peeps do 40 every day
1 month 1000 reviews per active user (let's say he misses few days because away)
 
@easwee me :)
 
so we need 76k reviews
:)
so 76 months alone ahahaha
 
@easwee Oh you're kidding me :P
 
lol you close to top CV ranking?
there's a Kevin at the bottom of it :D
you should switch
 
12:40 PM
Looks like one day = 3k reviews, so (3000000 - 2924159) / 3000 is 25. Only 1 month :P
 
yeah
around 3k
usually in the morning when I come in the office it's the lowerst
 
@easwee I will :D
 
then india throws in all their questions
so it raises
then europe comes in first to do the CV
and later US :P
so it drops back
 
been like that for last 2 years
sux
there are just not enough people reviewing
 
12:41 PM
Wow, @rene is the second, reviewed 31447.
 
already 1000 votes more a day would help bring it down
yeah he's been there for some time now :P
 
@easwee (3000000 - 2924159) - 31447 = 44394, seems like we need two rene :)
 
yeah
 
@SmokeDetector Why I didn't see it? or I need some coffee?
 
@KevinGuan That's not a report.
 
12:47 PM
@SmokeDetector Ah, looks like I need coffee.
!!/coffee
@SmokeDetector Thanks
 
lol
I see you enjoy your bot
 
no I don't want you to have a coffee
because
 
I already got my coffee 2x today hehe
 
@Tunaki No! my coffee!!
2 hours ago, by Tunaki
I didn't finish it!!
 
Good morning
 
12:51 PM
Hi
 
C++ audits in CSS tag are such a waste of audits
 
@NathanOliver Morning, my coffee was gone :(
 
was gone twice
 
@easwee (:D)
 
does anybody on here know C++?
 
12:56 PM
Only know about Python, any problem?
I still need some coffee
 
<--- js guy
 
<--- java guy
 
I want to know if something is closeable as a typo but it is c++ specific.
 
<--- not a guy
 
you can try your luck by posting the question
 
12:58 PM
I just think I'll ask in the C++ room.
 
probably a better idea
 
1:54 PM
This comment is funny:
Verbose and insulting to anyone over 50. It's an indentation problem: the while loop statements need to be indented in one tab each. — duffymo 41 mins ago
The first part
 
@NathanOliver The Lounge<C++> isn't about the language...
1 message moved to Trash can
 
@rene Its not?
 
I was joking .... let's say they are also very explicit about the complete moderation of SO ;)
 
They should probably have a better room description...
 
Ah. okay. still waking up.
 
2:07 PM
morning!
 
Morning Gunr
 
\o
 
/o
 
o-
 
2:08 PM
turn it on it's side and it looks like an angry face
 
@gunr2171 reminds me of toy story. youtube.com/watch?v=DN5nN67EwBg
 
@NathanOliver reminds me of portal 2
^ that guy should have taken the SO survey
 
Hey @gunr2171
 
hello
 
2:14 PM
:P
 
@gunr2171 o/
 
hola!
 
hola amigos
 
@easwee you know you can change your Team title now?
 
lol forgot about that
but I have no idea wut to put
 
2:16 PM
that's up to you, think of something creative
you and @rene still have the defaults
 
btw
 
you can keep it like that, doesn't matter to me, just giving you guys the option to change it now that you can
 
plz put link to team in this room descri'ption
:P
 
oh yeah, let me change that
room topic changed to SO Close Vote Reviewers: This room is for the weekly close events, discussion(s) about reviewing, and coordination of cleanup efforts site wide. Please visit our Team page: stackoverflow.com/teams/11/socvr [we-wait-for-shog9] wait a second, I can edit this message? Why can I edit this? This should be said by Feeds
 
@approxiblue I understand this to be a different use case. I can understand the argument that starting to close vote a question that has a bounty on it is evidence that it was only the bounty that got attention. However what you were saying yesterday is different; if a question already has close-votes, then it's the bounty that should be deferred until the question is clearly on-topic.
 
2:17 PM
@easwee "Duckular"?
 
@gunr2171 I'm happy to be the boring one ...
 
works for me
 
Rene the Boring
 
^ Says the Regular
 
but I'm regular
 
2:24 PM
@KevinGuan I don't find the comment funny. Nor is the code funny. Replace >50 with any other way of discriminating (race, gender, sexual orientation) and the post is arguably hate literature. I've flagged it, hopefully others do too.
 
@Mogsdad funny here means not funny :P. I'll go flag it too.
 
@KevinGuan I figured you were just drawing attention to it - thanks.
 
I'm not sure what's going on, but let me just say that making users the butt of jokes or joking that we are doing inappropriate actions here are not tolerated.
 
@Mogsdad Ah, no problem.
 
@gunr2171 Follow the links, then. No user is the butt of jokes. stackoverflow.com/q/33736243/1677912 (PS: I'm not dead yet.)
 
2:33 PM
@rene Regarding the SOCVR team, have you written guidelines on how to get in? At least I think it should be a bit clearer that it's for the devs of the bots/scripts/etc. as you may find people wanting to join!
 
@DavidG as in how to be invited to the team?
right now it's "if we think you are a regular then you get an email"
not the best method though
 
I have not written those rules nor had any discussion who should be in or not
But I can live with @gunr2171 take on it
 
Yeah, partly. But what defines a "regular" or a "dev"? For example, I've been here a couple of weeks, does that mean I can join? I also made a tweak to Closey's docs on the wiki, does that make me a dev? Just throwing some thoughts out.
 
yeah, but that involves work!
 
afternoon all
 
2:36 PM
hey Jon!
 
'ello Jon
 
@JonClements Well, evening here :P
 
@JonClements are you going to be less busy if those new mods are elected? Looking forward to that?
 
@DavidG you need to idle in this chat for 1 year :P
 
2:40 PM
@rene won't be less busy - no...
 
@easwee Fair enough, AFK for 1 year.
 
:)
 
good news is though - new T-shirts arrived 15/20mins ago - and they're sweet :p Jon is a happy pupy
 
catch ya later
haha
 
You got even more swag?!
 
2:41 PM
@easwee Later
 
@NathanOliver you missed the joke
 
@DavidG New logo blah blah...
 
@DavidG Oh course he did. All he has to do is give the dev team his sad puppy eyes and they cave.
@easwee Oh now I got it lol
 
:)
 
I still didn't receive my "10 million questions" thing, been over 8 weeks now :(
 
2:43 PM
what would that be?
 
141
Q: How Did Stack Overflow Help You?

bluefeetAs we continue the celebration of 10 million questions on Stack Overflow, we want to give away more stuff! We’ve already received some awesome stories about users going above and beyond for others, but before we give away more swag we need something from you. We want some stories about how Sta...

 
@DavidG you need the puppy dog eyes trick... mine were requested and shipped on Wednesday :p
 
@JonClements OK, I'm off to get a camera and download Photoshop.
 
Or too broad?
 
It is unclear to me but I know 0 python.
 
2:48 PM
The question is "How do I make my function have default parameters" if I understand correctly
Probably a dupe in that case
 
JAL
hey all
 
Plop @JAL
 
JAL
Hi Nathan, Kyll
I'm currently sitting out a review ban, so I doubt I'll be that active today
 
@DavidG, just talked with Rene. We're thinking if you can be trusted in the GitHub organization and/or you come here often enough then you can be in the Teams page. I'm just wary because anyone can delete the team on a whim.
 
Hey :)
 
JAL
hey Kevin
 
hello (oh wait, not me)
 
JAL
lol
Morning gunr
 
@Kyll Well, OP added the code...but as an answer.
 
2:51 PM
@JAL bummer. How long is the ban?
 
@KevinGuan "please delete this" as it is not an answer and should not be posted this way
 
JAL
@NathanOliver fortunately only two days, so definitely manageable
just frustrating sometimes
 
Yeah. I have stopped reviewing in the first post queue.
 
@Kyll Edited, what about now? :)
 
JAL
I remember talking about that. I'm just trying to get my gold badge :P
 
2:53 PM
> Nominations close in 5 hours.
start up that hype train
 
@KevinGuan No idea, it's been deleted =p
 
@Kyll :P
 
@JAL Have to get that. Once I did I stopped.
 
JAL
word
So I answered this bounty question a few days ago, but I'm afraid it might be too broad. Thoughts? I don't have that much experience with security questions on SO. stackoverflow.com/q/29729297/2415822
The OP didn't post any code or other implementation details, so we really can't know how safe something is if we don't know how it's built.
 
In that case, knowing that there is data on the client is enough to say "it's not secure"
 
JAL
2:56 PM
also the asker is using a webview
but yeah, definitely vulnerable to a man in the middle attack
and this user has 18k, they should know about security
 
@JAL No language tag?
 
@DavidG team page updated
 
JAL
@KevinGuan they used the tag
implying either objective-c or swift
(or objective-c++)
but no backend implementation details
 
@JAL Wow, your answer has 3 upvotes.
 
JAL
i know right?
weird
i guess it's a [subjectively] good answer
and the other one has two upvotes
 
2:58 PM
@gunr2171 Brilliant, much clearer
 
@JAL Hmm...I'm not sure, the question was asked 7 months ago, and no votes...
 
Might want to update my style puu.sh/lnDUU/1eaa0f68c3.png
 
JAL
@KevinGuan Yep, with a newly added bounty by the OP stackoverflow.com/posts/29729297/revisions
i mean it's not a great question, but not one that warrants a mod flag to close IMO.
Not as bad as the "give me teh codes" bounty questions that come up periodically
 
3:21 PM
@SmokeDetector Looks like too broad
@JAL Ah, no idea about that question...
 
@Mogsdad Ah, upvoted. But why don't link to that question?
 
@Mogsdad Probably a good idea to link to the question, yes
Thanks
 
@Undo Hey Undo :). Now I have another question about our bot.
 
@KevinGuan Sure
 
3:25 PM
4 hours ago, by Kevin Guan
And the question back, Why I didn't get ping in room 95228?
@Undo About that !!/notify command, it doesn't work.
 
@KevinGuan It only works in rooms Smokey would post to anyway
!!/notify can't add rooms to be posted to
 
@Undo 2 arguments expected
 
heh
 
@Undo Well, so what does it do?
 
@KevinGuan Lets you get notified inside a room Smokey is already active in
Like this one, or the Tavern, or CHQ, or a few others
 
3:27 PM
@Undo Wow. -6 already. It hits -10, and I'm quitting.
 
Oh, I understand now.
 
We can't really let people add rooms because Chat has a rate limit, and we'd hit that pretty quickly.
 
@Undo Ah, so if I do !!/notify 41570 stackoverflow.com, SmokeDetect will ping me if he find a post right?
 
@KevinGuan Yep
 
!!/unnotify 95228 stackoverflow.com
 
3:28 PM
@KevinGuan I will no longer ping you if I report a post of stackoverflow.com, in room 95228 on chat.stackoverflow.com
 
!!/notify 41570 stackoverflow.com
 
@KevinGuan You'll now get pings from me if I report a post of stackoverflow.com, in room 41570 on chat.stackoverflow.com
 
@Undo Fine :D
@Mogsdad Now +4 and -9.
Oops. +5 and -10.
 
Cya - it's been fun.
 
Ah, okay.
I'll go to bed, 23:30 here now. Cya :P
 
3:33 PM
@Mogsdad A mod deleted the post.
 
@Mogsdad It's back to -9, don't go yet!
 
Tonight's association meeting cancelled, the associations building rented by the city is closed due to the attacks
Video games and coding night then \o/
 
Err.... what's the drama with the post?
 
@JonClements You're mod, can check deleted post right? :)
 
@JonClements stackoverflow.com/questions/33736243/… Over 50 and you're dead, over 30 and you're old. A bit silly really but it could offend some people.
 
3:38 PM
@Kyll Is this good news? :)
 
@KevinGuan As far as I'm concerned, yesh
 
@DavidG looks like there's enough feedback on Chris' answer on MSO
 
JAL
I don't think Mogsdad's post was that unreasonable
 
@Kyll :D, really need go to bed now...If there's some interesting things about Mogsdad's post, remember ping me :P
 
^ That Chinese person likes drama
 
3:41 PM
@Kyll Yeah # I'm still here
:)
 
I know (remember, cameras)
 
@Kyll I'm about to find them.
 
You actually ate one earlier today. Cereal box camera - Bad idea.
 
@Kyll The funny point is we don't eat cereal in China :)...good night :P
 
no cereal in china?!?! that's like not having eggs at breakfast!
 
3:46 PM
and bacon, mushrooms and tomatoes?
 
@gunr2171 It's rice for every meal.
 
@rene well, you have to load up the omelet with something. All of those are good
 
@Mogsdad I better tell Jack Weinberg to stay away from that question...
 
And now Mr Skeet himself has commented, @Mogsdad will be pleased :)
 
JAL
Are there any sites on Stack Exchange where programming tool recommendations are on-topic? Say I'm looking for a tool to analyze my code to make sure it's adhering to best language and style practices, or some other arbitrary set of rules. Could I ask that on Programmers SE or Ask Different?
 
4:01 PM
software recs?
 
JAL
looks good to me
 
@JAL Yep, we like them on SR
 
should that SD post be rolled back to revision 1?
 
I think OP has got the point now, it's probably OK to move on.
 
4:09 PM
What I mean is that there is a lot of content missing in the current revision vs the first one
 
Ah, possibly yeah. I didn't look after it started descending into an edit war. There is certainly a lot more in rev 1.
 
@gunr2171 use rev 2
indentation added there
 
oh, right
 
seems like he is trying to get a leg up on his class mates for homework...
 
OK so I'm becoming more active on Meta lately, what does that mean?
 
4:12 PM
so why does the SD message have @ KevinGuan at the end?
 
@gunr2171 Did you see what OP wrote on the answer to that question?
 
@Tunaki that you will run for moderator soon
 
Okay. Fixed it! Thanks for the help! Can you delete your answer? So that my classmates won't see this. ^^ — Geomxy 29 mins ago
 
@gunr2171 he manually reported it maybe?
 
I saw that. That's wrong.
 
4:13 PM
@gunr2171 to get him pinged
 
JAL
@Undo @NathanOliver descriptive enough? softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/q/26476/19423
 
useless Smokey functionality IMHO
 
@JAL what are best practices
 
@gunr2171 He registered to get pinged on smokey post.
 
ah, ok (not sure why he would do that)
 
JAL
4:14 PM
@TylerH It's subjective, but things like indentation, deallocating weak references on deinit, syntax
 
@JAL that should be included in the post
 
^
 
@JAL Is that a bit like FxCop/StyleCop?
 
JAL
Added, thanks @gunr2171
@DavidG looking now
 
Won't work in Swift land, but might give people an idea of what you are looking for.
 
JAL
4:19 PM
@DavidG StyleCop looks great actually. How does its analysis tool compare to ReSharper?
 
@JAL (Disclaimer: I've never used StyleCop!)
 
JAL
ha
 
But I think it can integrate with source control or CI tools.
 
JAL
yeah that looks like a great tool, thanks for the tip
 
@JAL I like it
 
JAL
4:23 PM
@Undo are you using Swift much these days? I was using for new projects for the past 4 months or so, but recently switched jobs and helped write an entire new app in ObjC.
And now I'm porting it to swift
lol
 
@JAL Somewhat regularly
 
JAL
I love the new ErrorType protocol
 
I'm mostly doing RoR, but I'm not terrible at Swift
 
JAL
oh cool
 
I came to work this morning and was told I get to learn how to use Powershell. Happy Monday
 
4:27 PM
Happy Monday to you
 
In c#, should the name of an enum be plural?
 
I have a Powershell 1.0 book, let me know if you want it, hardly used
 
@gunr2171 Depends on the context, but not usually.
 
public enum SupportedProjectTypes or public enum SupportedProjectType?
 
@gunr2171 In Java, I would say singular. Probably the answer is the same.
 
4:29 PM
I'm thinking singular as well
 
like tables in a database
 
e.g. if(projectType = SupportedProject.AwesomeProject) { ... }
Singular works for me
 
ok, thanks
 
use a singular type name for an enumeration unless its values are bit fields.
 
@rene I'm starting out on 3.0
 
4:35 PM
It is the Windows Powershell Scripting Guide: amazon.com/Windows-PowerShell-TM-Scripting-Guide/dp/0735622795
it mentions Win2K8 on the back....
 
@rene which blessedly led me to this wonderful cover art amazon.com/Windows-PowerShell-Action-Bruce-Payette/dp/…
 
LOL
 
@rene at first I thought that dude was holding a fanned out stack of money but then I realized it was just a manuscript of some sort and I was slightly less enthused
 
:D In 30 years time Powershell devops has become as scarce as COBOL devs.. you will be rich!
 
but do things still use cobol
 
4:44 PM
Great chance your salary is processed by COBOL stuff
 
if only I had a salary boohoo
I dunno, does VBScript run on COBOL
 
Money in your savings account? Maybe even airline booking (as they seem to be still using Windows 3.1 to land a plane on an airstrip)
@TylerH Nothing runs on COBOL... it runs itself
 
probably lots of my life depends on it
also I'm impressed that Windows 3.1 can land a plane on an airstrip
I thought a pilot had to do that still
 
It was Windows 3.1 that stopped planes landing, not that it landed them beforehand :)
 
@TylerH auto pilots can land planes now.
 
4:53 PM
@NathanOliver I've been in one that landed at Schipol or Heathrow, I remember thinking that the undercarriage should have been damaged as it was such a hard landing.
 
Don't ever fly into Sitka if you want to keep your sanity
 
That looks cool!
 
until you realize that you're about to land on it
 
Now I want to fly to Sitka
2
 
it's actually a beautiful town
 

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