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2:54 AM
I've started work on the console client and once that's working can look at a wasm client for our own chat
Anyone adventurous can try this
do <chat>
and see if you can work it out on how to register, and then post a message
If you crash the server, remember what you did so we can fix it
 
 
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6:57 AM
Anyone have a markdown parser I can use for the chat?
 
7:37 AM
@GrahamChiu if nobody has it, I can write a (very basic) one
 
 
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8:44 AM
@giuliolunati I've got a very simple one I just wrote for the stuff we use in chat
but let's see yours :)
 
9:01 AM
and then I need to add all that fancy JS stuff
Unless someone else who is competent at that stuff steps up
 
 
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4:20 PM
@GrahamChiu We can take our time but I still say hacking up Miaou is the best bet.
Just kill off their node.js server side whatever
 
 
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6:01 PM
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE I suspect most people here, apart from Terry, don't have an interest in hacking JS
@rgchris do you have a coloriser I can use for R3 code fragments? Rebol header not needed.
 
6:25 PM
Anyway what I want first is an R3 devbase minimal chat which were can then move to wasm
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7:20 PM
italic and strong ?
 
7:50 PM
@GrahamChiu italic <i> pairs with bold <b>, strong <strong> pairs with emphasis <em>
 
8:04 PM
@giuliolunati em does the whole paragraph doesn't it?
I've got *, **, _, __ and [ ] ( ) working so far
I want to do code blocks with syntax colouring
 
8:23 PM
Sample chat here 35.224.174.22/rooms/1
a monologue!
 
@GrahamChiu Is this using Devbase?
 
8:44 PM
@GrahamChiu Ah! I thought it was just you talking to yourself again!
 
9:02 PM
@Atomica No, it's the chat I've been developing
to try it, at a rebol console, type do <chat>
and see if you can figure out how to register!
The idea is to use it both at the console, and in the web browser using wasm
 
nvm
 
I recall we had long discussions years ago about using an associative database for chat
so, now it's time to implement!
At present messages are just being stored in the file system
the rebol wasm console is going to need us to wrap the JS read/write functions
 
:) as a start
 
emoticon support is I guess on the table
 
(°.°)
 
9:13 PM
As far as I know, devbase chat was never open sourced so ... we need to keep reinventing the wheel
The gpg stuff is mainly there because we don't have https server mode for httpd
so everything is sent in clear text
 
and there's the rub
anything short of https is a kludge
 
Not really. I don't see a need to encrypt public chat
 
till you need to log in
 
Https provides authentication
So login uses gpg
 
9:29 PM
@GrahamChiu nope, it's inline
 
@GrahamChiu are you logging the console inputs on your server, cuz I'm trying to hack your graham.md file... too lazy to make my own ;)
Hmm, can't do it.. seems it protected by https :)
What did Altme do? Just hardwire the keys?
 
9:56 PM
@GrahamChiu This is pretty much ready to go.. just need to Ren-Cify the 20 year old basic Rebol 2 code
 
10:33 PM
@Atomica you can't hack mine. You need to provide your own public key. You need your private key to decide the session key I send you.
@Atomica what do u mean?
Probably .. they have their encryption key embedded in the altme binary
which means everyone shares the same key
 
11:14 PM
That's what I mean
@GrahamChiu If encryption of a public chat is not necessary, and the chat has a limited number of users, then some cheap handshaking would be 'good enough' for authentication.
Does Ren-C have built-in encryption func?
 
11:38 PM
@Atomica yes, but I don't know if they are exposed. The elliptic curve stuff is not exposed.
As for "good enough" then we want to be absolutely sure who we are chatting with
I don't really like anonymous people chatting to me
they could be grooming me
for a job in python or whatever
And I think it's fair to add an obstacle
here's it's 20 points
And now it's now are you an open source developer? So, do you have a gitlab/github account? If not, we're not interested.
We can let those organisations do the initial screening for us
We really don't want spammers
and the need to start deleting messages etc
Carl's blog is full of spam comments which he hasn't bothered to remove
I'm guessing it's because it's just too much work for him
And not fun.
 

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