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5:16 AM
@giuliolunati I see travis-ci does have support for Android
 
 
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8:11 AM
^-- cc: @GrahamChiu
 
8:40 AM
@GrahamChiu for what do you need this?
 
@giuliolunati If Travis can run an android-based container, we might want one Android build cross-compiled and one Android-on-Android build...
Only if it's not much work to do so.
 
@GrahamChiu link?
 
9:03 AM
@GrahamChiu That may be for cross compiling (which we do already). But it might be an easier way of doing it.
 
9:22 AM
@GrahamChiu If you expand the arrows on the side, that is an Ubuntu 14. But @giuliolunati would know if this might simplify our build matrix or not. Thing is, maybe it would give us a smaller %.travis.yml, but also it might make it harder if we decide to use some other CI than Travis...
 
When I build my 8th apk I used Android Studio and Gradle
on windows
anyway it offers us a way to build Rebol for Android in our matrix
 
@GrahamChiu We already do... see config 12 and 13 in the matrix: travis-ci.org/metaeducation/ren-c
Those are more manual configurations of what this Travis-CI cross-compilation environment apparently does more automatically, but the results are presumably comparable.
 
@HostileFork where's the apk?
 
@GrahamChiu It builds a "Bionic" executable (13 is hardware floating point) and that executable is for bootstrapping and running from an Android terminal app. But it sounds like the APK-making-process only needs a few tools. Perhaps @giuliolunati would like to add the step of that and packaging it up on Travis -- it's just not something that has been done yet.
The wasm build means we have this new option for giving it a UI that is not a Java front end...I think that's a good angle, myself.
 
I think we also lack armhf
for RasPi
but maybe all those other platforms can be solved just by using wasmer/wasm
 
9:36 AM
@GrahamChiu That is what 13 is. armhf => hardware floating point (not arm hostilefork, though I could always use more weapons)
 
eventually
@HostileFork really?
oh well ...
good to know but I guess I'll forget it again soon enough
 
@GrahamChiu Build 13 should run on a raspberry pi.
 
@HostileFork how long has that one been around for?
the last time someone wanted one they had to build it themselves
 
 
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10:48 AM
@GrahamChiu I don't know when it was added to %travis.yml, but rebolsource.net had a raspberry pi one-off download...the ability to do it has existed for a long time.
I've been trying to do a little bit of planning to figure out what can be realistically accomplished between now and conference time. While it is over a month, I will not realistically have a solid month of programming when all is said and done. We have a lot of demos, but I was hoping for a couple more.
For @rgchris, I was hoping to have the split screen webassembly StyleTalk LiveCode thing. From my end, that requires a cancellation mechanic so that if it's doing the CSS calculation but you enter new source, it manages to interrupt the previous calculation and start a new one. That's non-trivial but I think doable. @rgchris : do you still want to do this? Do you have another presentation in mind?
For @GrahamChiu I think vue.js is probably what to demonstrate and talk about--get the power calculator going, with maybe a bit of a WebAssembly vision statement. We show the behind the scenes of the JS API and how the language mixes to do web apps in Rebol.
We can also get the drone control demo going (I have one of those drones too).
Maybe we can find a way for @giuliolunati to show development on the phone. It can be subtitled. :-) He could film it in Italian, and then I subtitle it, and we show it subtitled at the conference.
@MarkI If you are strapped for time to do anything new, you could talk about the lexical nature of Rebol and go through the file you had worked out for that. But I think just general evaluator talks can work also. There's so little information out there that almost anything anyone talks about is new for the general public who finds it online.
 
11:34 AM
@HostileFork You really think that could be of interest for anyone?
@GrahamChiu We definitely don't need Android to build apks. I'm pretty sure my rebolserver.apk could be "Travis-ed"
 
@giuliolunati Of interest to me! :-) I'd like to see a bit about the day in the life of developing entirely on a phone, and how that is done in Rebol.
 
@HostileFork cc @GrahamChiu I don't think that'd work, cause the platform armhf is right, but the libs are wrong: bionic vs. libc, Android vs. Linux
@HostileFork Oh well... I never filmed myself, but could be the 1st time, I suppose.... ;-)
 
@giuliolunati This is the YouTube era! If you feel talking in English is too hard, then we can just get things a bit ahead of time so it can be subtitled
 
11:49 AM
@HostileFork chanches are, you would better understand me while talking in Italian than trying to "talk" in English!
(ask @brett!)
 
@giuliolunati Well, I can kind of understand the Pope in English. Sometimes. :-)
 
@GrahamChiu plz try the 0.13.x build in Raspi, and if they don't work we'll try to add a Travis build for that
@HostileFork but he's sustained by the Holy Spirit! ;-)
 
 
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2:47 PM
@giuliolunati sounds good if you can start with that
 

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