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12:06 AM
>> return 42
** 1
@HostileFork I hope you don't plan on leaving that for too long ...
 
@earl I'm phasing in a bunch of changes one piece at a time, so I don't know. Let me look.
I don't get that.
 
That's the 'issue with THROW-style error' change you mention in github.com/metaeducation/ren-c/commit/….
 
>> return 42
** Throw error: return or exit not in function
 
Building current master?
 
I believe so.
Oh, hm
It's running a non-built r3, there's no r3 currently. Let me look
 
Ah, you beeped me in mid-building.
Well, in definitionally scoped return, my bias is there is no such thing.
 
Maybe. But we don't have definitionally-scoped return yet.
I'd definitely prefer stuff like this not sneaking in under the title of "const-correctness changes".
(Also seems to kill the test framework. But haven't looked in detail.)
 
Well, give me a second, as I'm putting lines in separate commits vs. all one.
 
No worries, no hurry.
The following seems to work for me while keeping the value constness, if that's any help: gist.github.com/earl/5c6cc3c312321a5e4bc2
@HostileFork ^^
And good night.
And good luck :)
 
12:26 AM
Tx.
@earl Well what is happening is, I've got a relatively large codebase that is more or less best thought of as a "snapshot" of a system in a working state that has a large number of differences. So what I do is I'll pick something, and try to patch that one thing in... changing perhaps some definitions. I change the definitions in a semi-strategic way, see what build errors that triggers, and go to my other source and paste what it did to build if I don't see any immediate problem with it.
In general, trusting the me of then to have thought it out, because really if I redo everything questioning the me of then, this will not happen. Beyond not necessarily being able to do it, I don't want to do it.
This is a by-product of the me-of-then's Make_Error being unwilling to take THROWN error values, because such errors don't have objects.
Your point is this can happen, and here is a case, and so what to do about that. Me-of-then was busy formalizing the internal structure of errors.
And me of then wasn't that concerned if an output message like that was suboptimal, as it was fixable relative to the other concerns.
Anyway, you don't see the Make_Error constraint because that change isn't in. These are pieces of the simpler things, to avoid mixing them up in the bigger things.
The concerns that drove the initial desire to pin down Make_Error are likely no longer relevant, given the few entry points...and the check to make sure you don't Make_Error on a thrown-class error can be taken care of in the Trap functions.
So I will do that.
 
12:50 AM
Having been bitten now more than once by having the "r3" on my system run instead of the ren-c/make/r3 when the former is in the path, I am renaming the former to "rebol"
Now I share my sage wisdom with the others doing build.
"He spoke with the wisdom that can only come from experience, like a guy who went blind because he looked at a solar eclipse without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it and now goes around the country speaking at high schools about the dangers of looking at a solar eclipse without one of those boxes with a pinhole in it."
@earl With address sanitizer off, I get test segmentation fault at loop 30000000 [make gob! []], which I've moved to be the last test.
It's a bit leaky though, as if you loop through molding the same (unchanged error) N times it will create N objects. I imagine I was also feeling that wasn't optimal.
It's hardly the only place in the system with that issue at the moment, of course.
 
1:55 AM
Hey there @DaviddenHaring...how goes?
 
 
13 hours later…
2:46 PM
Is there a Rebol function which moves files (rather than inefficiently using read write and delete)?
 
>> ? rename
Oh, @RebolBot isn't here?
@WiseGenius RENAME
 
@rebolek It works. Thanks.
 
@WiseGenius You're welcome.
 
3:10 PM
Lastly, I was wondering if Rebol had a built-in function to convert an integer! to a string! of a certain length, padded with zeros on the left (similar to the /size refinement in to-hex, or Python's zfill()). It's a trivial function to write myself, of course, and I've done so. I was just wondering if I should delete it.
 
3:28 PM
>> format/pad -10 3 0
== "0000000003"
FORMAT needs better documentation of the dialect, though.
 
3:39 PM
@rebolek That is indeed strange, but what I had in mind. Thanks again.
 
4:20 PM
@johnk Crazy idea for the next time you change the room topic: [Rebol and Red]: Just an expression
 
5:12 PM
I've decided what Coherence II is. It's when I have no side-enlistments of Rebol, and Ren/C on GitHub contains all the work I have interest in to date.
 
5:39 PM
Coherence XXVII will be the fusion of Rebol and Red.
 
5:50 PM
@HostileFork Inquiring minds want to know. What exactly is a side-enlistment?
 
Multiple git clones that I work with looking and comparing at the same time.
 
That does not sound like too much fun, I agree, but I have at least three clones of my own repo on compare duty right now ...
And that's just Rebol, no sides :)
 
 
5 hours later…
10:45 PM
@johnk @GrahamChiu Any luck on bots...? Anything that someone could help with?
 
Sorry, consumed with personal work
 
11:12 PM
Same here. Gutters being replaced, ISP changing and a bit of non-rebol robot building. I hope to have more time this week
 
Well, not the end of the world, but would be nice to have a Ren/C RebolBot
And a RebolBot back to post "hey look at this" with
 

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