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4:58 AM
Rebol [
  notes: { )
]
print "this fails"
>> do %test.reb
(i) Info: use WHY for error information
** Internal Error: not enough memory: -139815387417777 bytes
** Where: transcode load-header either if load _ do console
** Near: [... (lit hdr:) rest 'line ~~
    if not block? ...]
 
 
2 hours later…
6:37 AM
@GrahamChiu not tried yet...
 
7:16 AM
@giuliolunati I'll be interested if it indeed can work on Android
 
7:29 AM
Hehe!
Well should it be a parse of a VID block to construct GOB!s and from there create the GUI using the appropriate binding (GTK in my case)?
 
@iArnold I don't know the internals but that sounds right
Or, you can just create gob! without the use of a dialect
 
 
1 hour later…
8:45 AM
I'll try to figure things out, make a sketch and put it on the r3n wiki somewhere and post a link here.
 
 
2 hours later…
11:13 AM
@iArnold GOB! is basically an attempt to offer some amount of efficiency to give R3-Alpha a DOM-like structural thing; as many have noted, you don't have "parent" links in BLOCK! or OBJECT! and so you end up implementing the DOM stuff by hand... it's bulky and inefficient.
There's no magic in it, it's the opposite of magic--it was a byte-miserly way of building parent-child relationships that packed in things like coordinates into a tree structured data thing.
Ren-C is trying to factor the system in such a way that user data types that don't fit the "Minecraft bricks" of BLOCK! and WORD! and such can be interfaced easily. If that means making it easy to bridge to any stock C++ data structure or library then fine. But to me, it's really about getting the ergonomics of that brick-world right.
If that brick-world lacks a clean way to do parent and child relationships, maybe it's a missing property of bricks, and that gets pursued.
But the byte-miserlyness was not particularly important, I don't think. GOB!s were a random artifact of bridging Rebol into a domain where using its native types would be too inefficient...on the computers of years ago...when the system was less efficient.
 
11:42 AM
Parent child may not be useful for other things. It can come in handy in GUI.
With the apparent lack of many intuitive functionality of GTK, I have wondered if brushing up AGG would not be a better thing to do. GTK wants to take over control.
I am not bound by GOB! type, I could even end up with anything between GOB! and FACE!
I think a 'show will show the GOB! on which it has been called and its children.
I go and focus on how a parse would be like.
Sometimes it is best to imagine it already finished and done and start from there. ;-)
 
 
8 hours later…
8:14 PM
@iArnold there are diagrams on rebol.com I would have thoughgt
 

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