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posted on December 02, 2020

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10:58 AM
@TylerH does such thing count as plagiarism or something else? here: stackoverflow.com/a/65091293/8620333 the user edited his answer to include the solution I provided (edit made 25min after my answer). I doubt it's a coincidence since he was going a complete different direction using CSS grid/flexbox and there is a clear evidence that the solution is the same.
PS: I don't want to focus on the user because I face this many times (even with other user answers) so I am wondering if it's OK or not. If such actions deserve flagging or something else (or simply nothing at the end)
 
 
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4:42 PM
@TemaniAfif lemme take a look
@TemaniAfif The code is basic enough that I think, at least at first glance, that it's different enough to not constitute plagiarism.
I mean, if the solution to achieve some layout is white-space: nowrap and overflow auto, there's only so many ways you can write that
 
 
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6:38 PM
@TylerH well, it's not only white-space nowrap and overflow ... it's a solution (1) not using flexbox at all (2) using a different technique considering inline-block with two tricks (3) making the first one block element to be full width and (3) using white-space:nowrap to create the overflow. It's not a trivial idea if we consider the initial question and the other user already provided a second method using CSS grid and right after my answer he surprinsigly got the same idea as mine.
a lot of coincidence IMO even if we cannot talk about 'text plagiarism". Someone post an idea and then after a lot of time another one do the same seems not fair for me and I see such behavior a lot in the site and never know what should be done (besides downvoting in some cases)
 
7:21 PM
I mean you would really have to know the mind if the user to know if it was intentional or not. At that point (like with any similar situation), I think the appropriate course of action is to follow the 'assume good faith' rule.
If you think there is true cause to not assume good faith (or there's evidence to the contrary, in other words), then you could flag for a moderator to take a closer look, but you'd have to hope the moderator that reviews the flag is knowledgeable in CSS, of which only a few active ones are.
Personally I would not have done what the user did; I would have instead suggested "for this kind of implementation, see Temani's answer" and just directed them to you
Perhaps the user just wanted to provide an answer of their own that contains all possible useful solutions, and did use your answer as the inspiration for their own implementation.
The thing is, the idea is separate from the implementation; sure, they may have copied the idea, but ideas are not particularly copyright-worthy or plagiarized... implementations are.
 
7:41 PM
@TylerH ok thanks, but what bother me is when a user add a late asnwer to old questions and I see the user with the accepted highly upvoted answer editing his answer to include new solutions. It's a bit unfair for user doing the effort and their answer are far at the bottom.
after all, it's question/answers website but well not easy to deal with this.
 
Yes, I totally understand the bother and I would probably feel the same way, especially if it happened repeatedly. I am just trying to be objective :-)
 
@TylerH yes I try to also be obective. I picked an example where I was involved (so It feels a bit personnal ..) but I saw worse than that. I will probably try Mod flag next time and see. Wa have a lot of Mod that can handle CSS questions (Samuel, Makyen Ry, Bolt and probably Machavity)
especially that Samuel seems to have a lot of free time :p
he is killing all the queue -.-
nice to see fast closure like that but he also catch some "not too bad" question
 
8:08 PM
@TemaniAfif not sure I would put Machavity in there, and Boltclock is inactive, but yeah
@TemaniAfif Yes he is unemployed (he mentioned so on the meta question I asked about his reviewing)
I do agree it is probably not the best idea to be doing so many reviews
I've seen a fair amount of questionable closures since then
though he is doing some reopening as well
 
8:19 PM
@TylerH yes I am also pinging him on each wrong question closed and he reopen them.
I like that "blade" question, it's always funny to see how hacky I can be with CSS: stackoverflow.com/q/65129402/8620333
 
@TemaniAfif nice answer; yeah that kind of stuff used to be more common/celebrated (of course they used to be asked in more high-quality questions)
and we used to do emulation css challenges here
e.g. reproduce a photo or gif effect in pure CSS, kinda like what Ana Tudor does on Twitter
I think you would enjoy her css stuff if you don't already follow her
 
@TylerH Yes I already saw her and she doing good stuff. I am waiting to make my "CSS challenge" site better and will invite her to break it ;) ... seems like I joined SO a bit late and missed a lot of earlier fun.
 
Yeah, especially this channel used to be a lot more fun :-)
 
and I doubt it will return to that previous situation ...
 
I'm sure it won't, at least not with the same people; they've all gone their own ways
they moved to Slack, then to Discord where there's no more Stack Overflow code of conduct dictating what they can say or what they can talk about
 
8:35 PM
yeah SO killed it and this chat is also a bit old compared to the other ones. We have nothing funny here, we can't even add emoji :/ ... only bad formatted text with orange links
 
haha
sure you can add some emoji
 
and a frustrating edit feature that last only few seconds ..
 
🥰
but yeah, i'd loooooove if SO made some chat improvements
the edit feature is 2 mins, btw ;-)
but yes we should be able to add for 5 minutes, for sure
 

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