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16:01
fuuuuuuuuuuu Premiere Pro crashed on me right before I was about to save
now i have to split up this damn video file again
questions like this make me hate bem: stackoverflow.com/questions/33372606/…
he's doing it wrong
yeah, i have a feeling everyone who has ever posted a bem question is doing it wrong
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@PeeHaa here's when everything started going wrong i.imgur.com/Lip6bvl.png
lol
we have similar naming problems :P
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16:09
god almighty
i hate naming stuff
claim_service_item_coefficient_items and so on :P
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dat snake case
rails convention
@cimmanon you don't use a gui for pg right?
@Kitler nope. command line, baby
\i and \ir are amazing
been using pgadmin3, sucks balls
16:16
i can see why people use a gui for mysql, because the command line eats 10000 dicks. postgres actually gives you useful information when you examine tables
@Abe Holy fucking naming batman :P
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:D
@Kitler Yeah pga3 sucks
@cimmanon I m working on indexing our foreign keys atm, cba to look at each table through pga x.x
@Kitler foreign keys implicitly create indexes ><
16:18
wait so all associations in our app atm are already indexed?
@cimmanon Not for FK I thought
@Kitler are your queries not using the indexes?
@Abe Yeah much better :D
@Kitler You did run an explain I hope before adding random indexes? :-)
I haven't added anything yet :P
We switched the db to postgres last week that's the extent of my experience with pg
16:20
Where are you coming from? mysql retardsql?
yup
I iz front end dev
@PeeHaa hm, i guess youre right, it doesnt ><
with very limited exp with dbs
As in basics
but you probably shouldnt need them
I haven't even written a query in the past 2-3 years thanks to orms
16:23
everything you ever needed to know about indexes and query optimization: use-the-index-luke.com
nice :D
thanks
ive never needed to add indexes for foreign keys
ES6 is called Harmony?
> During the work on ES4 the committee essentially split forming a group working on ES4 and a group working on 3.1. The 3.1 group "won" and became ES5. ES6 works to incorporate many of the ambitious ideas in ES4 and will essentially merge the split between 3.1 and 4. For this reason it was named "Harmony".
huh
16:40
afaik it's called ES2015
basically the way to go with this is run an explain query for each query that uses a foreign key and determine if it's worth indexing that fk?
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A: Why and how on earth would referencing a variable in the console.log fix a loading bug I've had?

Fergal AndrewsJust a bit of a guess but it could be that the console.log call is slowing the timing of the script slightly and allowing other dom changes more time to complete. Maybe try wrapping your call in a setTimeout() to see if that has the same effect as the console.log call.

"Try this and see if it works" on a 4-year-old question
@Kitler that starts with ES2016 I believe. ES6 is called ES6 or Harmony according to this article
ES6 was renamed to ES2015 babeljs.io/docs/learn-es2015
huh
in other news I've been putting my browser extension to work already
I quite like it
I'm deciding if I want to bother with updating my app once I've shipped it for WP8.1 or if I should just go straight to Windows 10
16:50
has anyone ever used html 5 geolocation with phonegap?
that's a very specific question
I m out laters guys
i'm a bit confused about how it's going to work...i didn't want to ask it on stackoverflow's main site because i've not done anything yet
what are you confused about? If you can make the question more general people can likely help without having experience with the two together
16:52
geolocation is part of the html5 standard? :scratches head:
@BoltClock thats a strange domain to register.
since phonegap/cordova is like an browser packed into an application how will access to the location be requested will it be the browser-like phonegap that will request it or it will be part of the device/app permissions
@danidee there seems to be a lot of information out there about phonegap geolocation, have you tried anything?
16:56
@danidee My guess is that it'd use the browser-like geolocation, not the built in device gps
phonegap geolocation uses the phones gps
(but browser-like geolocation on phones uses the same tech, just different access to it)
@danidee that can be only one source for location
that's my question, i don't know how it's going to function with html 5 geolocation, i've tried the gps geolocation and it works well
16:58
if you read the documentation:
> Geolocation provides information about the device's location, such as latitude and longitude. Common sources of location information include Global Positioning System (GPS) and location inferred from network signals such as IP address, RFID, WiFi and Bluetooth MAC addresses, and GSM/CDMA cell IDs. There is no guarantee that the API returns the device's actual location.
This API is based on the W3C Geolocation API Specification, and only executes on devices that don't already provide an implementation.
your desktop pc probably does not have gps installed, yet it would still report it's location based on other sources
@easwee i think i get the point....i'll try it out and see exactly how it works....no harm in trying
well if you just need to make it work just use the provided api - if you want to understand what is going on behind it and which sources are triggered you will have to do some tests and research - I doubt it's the same for all devices
also I guess the user can limit which permissions your app would get - atleast on android cyanogen I can do that
ip based locating will probably drain less battery then querying gps signal
but won't be that accurate
could be enough accurate depending on what you want to locate
if you just need country gps is overkill
wat
This is a thing
i think i'll go with the gps because i need a very precise location
Idolomantis diabolica, commonly known as the devil's flower mantis or giant devil's flower mantis, is one of the largest species of praying mantis, possibly the largest that mimics flowers. It is the only species classified under the genus Idolomantis. == Description == Idolomantis diabolica is a large mantis of the family Empusidae. Females grow to be about 13 centimetres (about 5 inches) in length and males to about 10 centimetres (about 4 inches). They are native to Ethiopia, Kenya, Malawi, Somalia, Tanzania, and Uganda. Its threat display is magnificently colored, with red, white, blue, purple...
17:09
@danidee no, you go with the api - the implementation is accurate
let the api handle it then
@ZachSaucier that would freak me out if I met it
the image search is so scary
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18:10
#respect
the developer could have done the triangle white, instead he went full ninja
s/he/they
18:25
@cimmanon effective, though :-D
I hate browser geolocation though
shouldn't be a thing -_-
@ZachSaucier where do you think Scyther evolved from
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/10/27/one-of-the-coders-hardest-problems/
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@Abe full ninja aka ::before and ::after
@Feeds I'm convinced the writer of these comics stalks this room now cc @Abe @Kitler
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yes
i thought the same several times
wow
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Q: How to cut a single clip in a Sequence into multiple clips for use in multiple Sequences in Premiere Pro

TylerHI have a single clip of a multi-speaker conference in Premiere Pro CS6 that I need to split into individual clips of each speaker, so that I can make a timeline of each clip with the end goal of exporting several individual videos, rather than one long video of the entire conference. I've alread...

Those are both terrible ways to do that
close the program and open ten instances... dude
new tab view just went live
for the "new layout" peeps
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Q: New Navigation Release Candidate

SklivvzTLDR: We overhauled the navigation again, to get it you need to opt-in via the user preferences page, and we want your general feedback (love it / hate it) after you try it for a few days. We are planning to deploy it before the end of the year, and your feedback is important. New new nav: bac...

Hallelujah
19:14
@BoltClock what does -n mean in nth-selectors?
19:31
just finished reading probably one of the most interesting books I've read
Max Fabiani - Acma
good read - specially when you consider it's now almost 100 years since it's first edition
the guy had a great vision of how the civilization will progress
Did you read it in English?
nope - in slovenian
original is italian
but he was kinda a mixed blood
they re-released it this year
since it was 150y since his bday
he was an architect
!!wiki Max Fabiani
Maximilian Fabiani, commonly known as Max Fabiani (Slovene: Maks, Italian: Massimo) (29 April 1865 – 12 August 1962) was a cosmopolitan trilingual Italian architect of mixed Italian-Austrian ancestry, born in the village of Kobdilj near Štanjel on the Karst Plateau, County of Gorizia and Gradisca, in present-day Slovenia. Together with Ciril Metod Koch and Ivan Vancaš, he introduced the Vienna Secession style of architecture (a type of Art Nouveau) in Slovenia. == Life == Fabiani was born to father Antonio Fabiani, a Friulian latifondist from Paularo of Bergamasque ancestry, and mother Charlotte...
19:48
Gettin' dat CM $
@BoltClock I realized perspective is not talked about on stackoverflow.com/a/25110511/2065702 neither is tranform3d
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20:06
@TylerH ?
you mean :nth-child(3n)
in math 3 n means "multiple of 3" iirc
die MD
basically same as 3 * x
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i wish i didnt fail at school :B i've forgot everything
3n is the set of multiples of 3, whatever that means
:D
but I think Tyler wants to know why n exactly
not x
i guess because it must be an integer
integer is short as n
20:58
@easwee pretty sure he is asking about negative n, hence the -n
@Abe no I mean -n
as in negative
but I figured it out
I was forgetting that selectors are interpreted RTL
even though styles are applied to markup LTR
so span:nth-of-type(n+2) would select all the spans starting from the 2nd one, from 2 all the way to the end
but -n changes the counting direction
so span:nth-of-type(-n+2) would start from the 2nd span and select all the spans from it to the beginning rather than the end
very confusing
it's like marching band and drumming. I'm a lefthanded person but you have to start every measure with your right hand, but when you march, you start each measure with your left foot
it's so dumb
-n+2 will select first 2 elements
21:06
@easwee yes, like I just said above :-)
it's not confusing
-1 + 2 = 1
0 + 2 = 2
-0 actually but doesn't matter in this case
sure it is because you have to read it right to left and then implement it left to right, except on step two of implementing it, you have to reverse directions
it's not about the math, obviously
yeah that can be tricky lol
it's about converting that to real-world instructions
since in English speaking nations we read left to right, that's a total of 3 direction changes
where normally there'd be none or maybe one required
it's like the one instance where selectors are confusing X-)
@cimmanon unfortunately that article is about as clear as mud
21:34
I've created a proper off canvas menu thanks to you people @TylerH @Abe @cimmanon <3 !
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here's my IBAN:
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:P
let's see it!
I will pass the link once the entire thing goes live
I even stole a fancy animated hamburger btw!
And I learned that using left positioning for animations is horrifuck
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make a gif at least!
21:37
lol kids these days... stackoverflow.com/q/33378863/508666
we need time-warp positioning
@Abe I will tomorrow when I have some actual content in it
Does cap do reminders?
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@PeeHaa the thing is that you would expect languages to disallow certain weird spaces :P
Whitespace is an esoteric programming language developed by Edwin Brady and Chris Morris at the University of Durham (also developers of the Kaya and Idris programming languages). It was released on 1 April 2003 (April Fool's Day). Its name is a reference to whitespace characters. Unlike most programming languages, which ignore or assign little meaning to most whitespace characters, the Whitespace interpreter ignores any non-whitespace characters. Only spaces, tabs and linefeeds have meaning. An interesting consequence of this property is that a Whitespace program can easily be contained within...
:P
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that
... is madness
LOL
21:42
Beats malbolge though
:D
Also I need to easter egg in this project. Anybody has a drop in one I can use?
@Abe wth!!
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HASTA LA VISTA, BABY
1 HE HAD TO SPLIT 0 => WHAT THE FUCK DID I DO WRONG
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21:52
@PeeHaa i'm so disappointed. are you asking for someone else's easter egg? how can you miss the opportunity to make your own :D
best thing for a programmer
@Abe Dude I just made a fucking sliding menu. I cannot top that
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hahaha
what is the app about? git gui?
Neh for a client. Hosting business site
I do actual work at times ya know :P
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and you are going to spoil it with an easter egg? remember me to not hire you for anything, in case i try :D
That's the rebel in me :P
FUCK THE SYSTEM!!!!!!!!
21:56
just go with konami code if you have no ideas
yeah indeed thought about it. Will do if nothing better comes up
or do that website crash effect
@PeeHaa will try to find
@PeeHaa konami + slider = love sex
22:01
I'm in it for the sex. I don't care about love :P
ha! Another victim of MD
lol :(
@PeeHaa can't find but google had this on their search page some time ago
Oh noice
hi i want to make my web design portfolio.. please suggest me the website
Google has added many Easter eggs to its products and services to entertain and amuse users. == Search engine == Searching for "<blink>" or "blink html" includes samples of the blink element in the results. Searching for "hodor" shows randomly generated "hodor" text, including capital and lowercase versions of the word "hodor". Searching for "recursion" includes a "Did you mean: recursion" link back to the same page. Searching for "do a barrel roll" causes the result page to do a Star Fox-style barrel roll. After searching for "askew" or "tilt," the results page is tilted, leaning down, left to...
22:04
@easwee ossm GOD MODE ENABLED :)))
good ol quake days
@SajjadKhan google.com
:D
I also always remember duke nukem
yea
dnstuff
so you old
22:06
or what was it
nah just kid who had pc at 6y old :P
@PeeHaa thanks i thought it will be yahoo??
shiet thats 22y ago
@SajjadKhan I've heard great things about ask jeeves yeah
my cousin used to play it a lot - I always got scared
22:07
@PeeHaa and what i know up to now google is a search engine??
yes
@SajjadKhan start with your own websites
@CSᵠ i haven't any website.. I just a new in this field i just want a place where i put my work as sample to show??
@SajjadKhan Do you have / want hosting?
22:10
hmm android is now supposed to have SU option in developer tools to enable without need for additional tools - should be on CM12 but can't find it
@PeeHaa no some thing like code pen
@SajjadKhan for designery / JS stuff I would use something like codepen yeah
You can always also create a github page to aggregate it
@PeeHaa i use it but my pro account expire today so code pen not allow me to upload images or other resources. for that reason i worried
Use github pages
@PeeHaa thanks for the advice I'll create account in the morning right now its too dark in my country..
So i thought for going to sleep
22:21
@PeeHaa nice combo
Yeah. It's cool that I can throw things around
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22:37
rofl
@TylerH it is common in english adding "modest" (as in: not trying to be pretentious) when referring to own labor, qualities?
"without ostentation or self glorification"
i don't even know if ostentation is an english word :B
(yes it is)
22:56
spent about half a day debugging something only to find that the issue was four spaces in front of <?php... still have no idea why that caused an issue but I guess that's what happens when you work with terrible software
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23:07
lol
@joshhunt was it a python program that output html with php?
@Abe funk man, i'm at the naming thing for a week, can't get a suitable name and method is already written and optimized
nah it was the theme file (which was working fine) but somehow it broke the image resizing software, like I said terrible software lol
all php
in theory the image resize has nothing at all to do with the theme
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@CSᵠ yes.
anyone know a good place online to get a screen replacement? For a Nexus 5
needs to ship to NZ
ebay
amazon
aliexpress
can't find one on amazon that ships to NZ
not sure if I trust ali express
hey! a4f13ff.ngrok.com/giveaway/welcome - anyone know why the logo is not vertically aligned properly?
in a mobile / small width view, the same is for the hamburger menu button...
how do you expect it to be vertically aligned?
23:44
@joshhunt looks so in other bootstrap examples
@joshhunt some reason you think it wouldn't be?
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