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15:01
that is singingbanana
Same guy, though
@SomeGuy if I just read your 2 statements about feeling stupid and it being understandable it sounds more like a burn.
maybe it was
he's a jackass you know
You'll never know. XOXO
15:03
I prefer to go by "cunt"
hanging around @KeyboardWarrior too much
lol
damn dropping the C word
Capris sun?
@rlemon @Kitler, you mean :p
@SomeGuy I wonder who has more
patsy by far
lol
15:06
Haha yeah
I really miss u guys :( mobile chat sux
@OsmondStudio "no posts"
@DarkAshelin no, what?
On mobile it shows nothing
15:13
facepalms Dang. My bad. XD
@DarkAshelin try again.
you don't say i got a ping and it is about pizza
you are the only italian in the room
i bet you guys eat more pizza than me
depends on your definition of pizza
#poorcore
15:28
I don't eat much pizza at all
maybe 2-3 times a year
@rlemon you even cook it..
and you even made lorempizza
yup
Do you guys have any resources for enterprise web tools design that you'd recommend?
pizza from stores is way too greasy
@JohnPurtle enterprise web tools design ?
15:29
@rlemon Best. Job. Ever.
you care a lot of your fitness and ur fat anyway
Mmhm, like designing for human resource information systems, intranets, etc
@OsmondStudio nice work
@NullPoiиteя I agree with you, that sounds like a buzzish word
@Worf yea I'm like 400lbs
15:30
folks above my paygrade are starting to listen about how a proper investment into design for the tools we have would benefit
@rlemon ahahahah do you get offended when someone says you are fat even if it's clearly not true
no man, I'm fat
pizza -- way too less spicy , taste like hot ice cream :/
the pics I show you guys I've GIMP'd off the pounds
@JohnPurtle "design for the tools" is very vague
by tools do you mean "tools of the trade"?
like good online resources?
15:33
beach sand? lol
@Neil design for the tools as in, making sure i'm not designing terribly hard to use and hard to look at software for the employees here. I'm looking for online resources of good enterprise application design, best practices, those sort of things
the tea one was awesome
I've gotten the whole lifecycle of wireframing put into place and working through it for our newest project here
@JohnPurtle still vague , good is always vague :/
@JohnPurtle I've made a few applications in my day and it isn't the sort of thing you can just find online
15:36
12:29
ahahahahahahahaha
But best practice is not to add something that you don't need and don't overcomplicate the inteface
AHAHAHA
noob
how is brain any worse than pig bottom
i don't know
@Neil I suppose, a narrow specification would be, resources on user experience since i'll be working with a bunch of student graphic designers on this
@JohnPurtle you are working with student , and talking about enterprise application design :D ROFL hahahhaha
don't knock it. I've worked in an enterprise level gig and 60% of the staff were university coops
15:39
Out of my hands, it's one of these university coops deal
@JohnPurtle You should look into use cases. The best way to formalize usage of a program is by minimizing the number of clicks in order to do what would be presumed to be very ordinary uses of your program
Kind of like making your website easier to navigate, except for applications
than i should also get job of JavaScript programmer (i am beginner at it ) :D
do it
more respectful than PHP developer ;)
the number of hats i have to wear would put a TF2 player to shame. That's a good point about use cases.
shot to the gut here, rlemon
sup
@SomeGuy I was summoned
15:42
thankfully I'm not planning on pigeonholing myself with php
@JohnPurtle it's the same feeling I get when ever I have to use PHP :P
language of choice? @rlemon
framework?
@rlemon hahah :D (i always thought even thinking that i should first get proficient than apply for job )
15:43
@JohnPurtle express
Do you even ember bro
hmm, that's one i haven't looked into yet, what do you like about it?
it is fairly sane.. ish.
same question to @kitler
Js, ember
15:44
express isn't really a framework
i guess its about emberjs
sure it is
I wouldn't consider it so anyway
@NullPoiиteя express?
it introduces IoC
it is a framework
just a minimal one
15:44
It is doing a service for you, but it doesn't require a certain organization of your project
it is still a framework. just not as fully featured as you might be used to in other projects
unlike say backbone or meteor
it's not a framework if it isn't the frame of your work
@Kitler noop man i am trying to get smoother in core JS :)
yeah, ember, backbone and meteor are built on node right?
no
@NullPoiиteя stay far away from ember :P
15:46
basically nothing is built into nodejs
It is pure javascript
It has a learning cliff and you need a bit more than basic understanding of js
in fact you can't really do without some sort of library like express
you can
i am already far away , my next goal is already set angular + node than new techonology :D
and don't listen to the haters, express is a framework ;)
15:47
@rlemon can't meaning not practical to do without
@Neil depends on what you need to do
@NullPoiиteя I wouldn't go with angular but meh tis the php of jsframework in terms of effort required to get started
@rlemon well for what it does, you wouldn't go without
@Neil node or express?
because I use node without frameworks all the time
I've just been using jquery for the most part since ajax + dom manipulation is like 99% of what i need to do for the stuff we have here in the office
15:48
@rlemon express, or something that does the same thing
ahh, thought you were saying "not using a framework with node is a bad idea"
So you write programs requiring the role of express without express all the time?
my mistake
nono, it's still a library and not a framework afterall ;)
@Kitler but its what most of companies needs here now a days , and i can get good income :)
15:49
connect and express middlewares implement IoC
which defines a framework
Do they realise angular 1.x won't be compatible with 2.0?
didn't angular get the EA treatment with 2.0?
@rlemon And what, praytell is your definition of a framework?
no idea, never worked as JS developer
@JohnPurtle what do you mean by that
15:52
@Neil this is a good summary I can agree with stackoverflow.com/a/148788/829835
Feh, sounds like it's just a bunch of hysteria about some of the design choices going to 2.0
@rlemon So a memoize function is a framework?
if you have a system that expects a set of them, sure why not
meh, I see a lot of overlap in those definitions
of course there is, the main difference being (and always has been) inversion of control
15:55
You'd be hardpressed not to have a library that didn't adopt some sort of inversion of control
where does jquery introduce IoC?
If you pass an anonymous function to a library call, technically that's inversion of control
Everywhere.. even to have a function run when the page loaded is inversion of control
though most of what jQuery does is pass it off to methods you'd be calling otherwise
in the simplest terms I can find (i'm bad at explaining these things)
A library is something you call from your program. A framework is something that calls into your program. and express does do that with connect and middleware
middleware could be considered library plugins
and they offer IoC
we're going full circle
you can argue with the authors of the framework why it isn't a framework :P
15:59
libraries usually focus on a specific functionality
As I see it, a framework is anything optional used by your program such that it isn't your program being called but the framework directly
frameworks in a way are a collection of libs
!!afk will be back, forgot my phone at home this morning.
That's still inversion of control, but centered around your program, not necessarily a component
Ember for example is made out of microlibs, the router is a lib, the resolver is a lib etc..
each element can be used on it's own
16:00
express would call it a framework, but then calling a library a framework is like calling a play a masterpiece.. it just sounds more impressive
Ember just groups them and handles interaction between them
So would you consider an ember a library just because you can use each element on its own?
used like that, I suppose it would be
That's not what I just said...
Ember groups libraries and handles the interaction between them
You said that each element can be used on it's own
and how is that relevant
16:03
It's relevant because you just said that it isn't what you said
I said it's made out of micro libs and handles interaction between them...
2 mins ago, by Kitler
That's not what I just said...
and each microlib works on it's own
What assumption did I make that wasn't correct then?
16:05
ah crap read that wrong
> So would you consider an ember a library just because you can use each element on its own?
Ah, ok, I thought I had misunderstood something
read it in a way where you were stating ember is a library because you can use each element alone
Used in that sense, it is, but that's certainly not how it is intended to be used
I wouldn't consider it a lib since it doesn't have a single purpose
A library doesn't have to have a single purpose, though they really should
16:11
anyway back to failing tests x.x
!!afk
ahahaha silly google google.com/maps/place/…
4 hours ago, by Kitler
http://goo.gl/maps/2BXmy
@Kitler should have posted in the morning...
last day before vacation is always the busiest :)
where you taking off to
@easwee lol , hahahhahahahah
16:38
how do i stretch an input text field in %?
@phpPluginMaster display:block; width:n%;
or display:inline-block
display: table;
should work
how does that do % of an inut type="text"
thiss does a div: width: 50%;
what does a type=text ?
16:49
@phpPluginMaster we told you that already...
i thought it was the same thing
@Kitler Sicily
it did nothing
minimal demo or we can't help
let me fiddle it
my end maybe
XD
what's the one that makes tooltips "float"
float:{left || right}?
I honestly have no idea what you're asking there
no, above the text
So like a label for the text input?
so nothing messes up
16:57
wat
@phpPluginMaster even some diagram in paint would be helpful
the page doesn't redesign so it shows
yeah. Have no idea what you're trying to say. Put it in demo form
i am feeling help vampire vibe :/\
17:00
a tooltip sits hidden, without it the text would move, but with it the page stays "normal" with the box floating
position: absolute ?
@phpPluginMaster Please read this article carefully and give it some thought. If you recognize yourself in it, change your ways. communitymgt.wikia.com/wiki/Help_Vampire
@phpPluginMaster also read through this learnlayout.com
sorry, i just want to get it done
17:02
lol. Then no help from us
@phpPluginMaster do you want to listen random guess from us or waste our time ? because without code you have tried , its almost impossible to help LOL
@phpPluginMaster That's exactly the kind of attitude that'll make us want to not help you. Fyi.
:added to the vamp list:
@NullPoiиteя I did get the search engine built last night :D
it's not on github though
it will be on there today
17:04
once i shouted really hard on my IDE and after 2-3 hours of shouting i got my project done :D trust me now a days i only shout even i got better microphone :D sorry man you write your code by yourself not finding on github or anyother place , its better to learn than copy past
@Bhavin What cool stuff have you been developing?
/me later .... its food time
@CarrieKendall or is it?
OP is asking about CSS, dupe is JS
unless you're confident it requires js
@StephanMuller he mentions css, the other post provides js and css
also, his title is kind of bad
17:09
owait, he actually already tries to use JS himself and the json is one long string anyway
it's just his title that sucks
\o/ good work planeteers!
Anything for a strawberry
in JavaScript, 4 mins ago, by ssube
-6
Q: How do I make collision detection for an HTML5 game using canvas?

Trenner JonesI am trying to make an HTML5 (HTML5, Javascript, and CSS3) game and I am working on collision detection, I don't know how to do it. I have tried a few ways but I don't think I am implementing them right. This is my code: <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta charset="utf-8"> <title>JS Bin</title

17:15
omg I laughed out loud
@rlemon LOL you guys are so picky.. he provided code ;)
lol
@CarrieKendall do you really think we should delete it in just 12minutes :D
he took the minimal in "minimal, verifiable example" very seriously
my guess is this isn't the first question to be deleted
17:17
I'm so glad I can see deleted questions
I see no activity and 8 days old account
half of my favorites list consists of them
@NullPoiиteя probably not, actually. should've given him time to edit considering it might not be a troll
my favorite
the person who told jon skeet he doesn't know what he's talking about
screenshot please :(
17:19
jon deleted his good comments
basically "I don't have time for this bs"
the pastor strikes back
rlemon you voted to undelete that question ? :D
shame jon skeet deleted some of his comments
@NullPoiиteя nope
just shows up red
unless I did by accident
@rlemon lol at kitler's reason for wanting it deleted
17:21
yea it's always red
and someone voted undelete
that's fairly hilarious
jon usually doesn't spend that much time fooling with people though
that comment is funny but offensive :D
in JavaScript, 13 secs ago, by rlemon
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA IT GETS BETTER!!! http://stackoverflow.com/posts/29853415/revisions
he must've been in a bad mood that day
@rlemon omg
17:22
ugh, i need to get 10k
@CarrieKendall edited with a link to jsbin...
i put a few answers in today. going to try to get to it this summer
can you guess what is in that jsbin?
LOL sweet!
17:23
another gem:

http://i.imgur.com/xBtz1M4.png
(screenshot for poor Carrie who can't even afford 10k rep)
:( the only reason i really want it at this point, is to see deleted stuff
it means she wastes less time on here than us
lol
i am not super into gamification actually
and my all-time favorite:
http://i.imgur.com/t6TOB1T.png
17:25
@StephanMuller what the..?
i.sstatic.net/G3sQa.png ...better version of that write app question
> i don't get my woman roses, i write her code
@StephanMuller golden comment
function Rose() {
  Flower.constructor.call(this);
  this.color = 'red';
  this.thorns = true;
  this.smells = 'sweet';
}
Rose.prototype.byName = function(name) {
  if( name !== 'Rose' ) return this.smells = 'not so sweet';
  return this.smells = 'sweet';
};
after i get 10k, my rank is going to die haha
17:30
get it - get it , its quite easy just regx*allofThem
if only i liked regex or css
"how to do {specific shit} with {regex|css} " are just so localized
how about parsing css with regexp?
i like css but i hate digging through walls of code for a net gain of 0-5 fgitw upvotes
-2
Q: Can I decode this or can anyone help me decode this?

SKYBOYthis is my code( its contain mor than 30000 character so i uploaded it): http://m.uploadedit.com/ba3c/142989642734.txt sample for ignor stackoverflow code edeitor(this is not complete!!!) _0xc208[325]:_0xad8cx7b[i]=_0xc208[324];break ;;case _0xc208[327]:_0xad8cx7b[i]=_0xc208[379];break ;;defa...

@CarrieKendall you don't need 10K to see this one
(yet)
my new strategy is to write a really good answer about once a week and make sure @MadaraUchiha sees it. i am going to bleed him dry :P
17:36
my current strategy is asking good questions
thought of another one but can't post till tomorrow for optimal badge whoring
@rlemon soon...
@CarrieKendall same with .htaccess
@Worf lol :D
I'm pretty decent at that but the questions are always the same
my current strategy is to wait 2 years until my current answers leech enough rep
17:39
@rlemon i must say, this is brilliant. pretty much how i got 5k
I do plan on giving at least 20% of my gained rep to bounties so if anyone posts an exceptionally good answer let me know :P
@easwee happy that you know what torcia means :D
@StephanMuller see all of my answers, thz huehuehue
@CarrieKendall pretty much like 90% of my SU rep superuser.com/questions/486297/…
but I have bountied off most of it now
17:40
lol and a >Cheers!
what a nub
answered Aug 5 '11 at 18:45
I was a nub
cheers!
haha love the the nub
cheers m8! beers around 8?
mike?
entity framework y u so bloated
17:44
@rlemon that guy has the D
i am pretty sure that pigeon carriers would win out against EF < 7 in performance testing
17:58
(unless anyone can make sense of it, that is)
@Worf torcia, canna, spinello, tromba, la maria :D
lol
I probably know few more can't remember now ;P
18:41
about to write a book answer.. be back in a few days >:|
link to question so I can beat you to the punch?
or just close vote it :D
lol
or punch you to the beat
so
beat-boxing
18:45
0
Q: Post view model instance back to several action methods

Farhad JabiyevI have one ViewModel which has 8 properties and 6 of them are complex types. And I must display them in 3 groups and to save all data to database at last. Now, I have created two methods for this purpose, the first will be decorated with HttpGet and the second one with HttpPost. I have already cr...

it could move to cr, but i think it's still on-topic on SO as well
18:55
@StephanMuller asshole :P
Oh asp.net, good luck. Won't interfere
19:12
@CarrieKendall Sounds good.
hey, sorry that you didn't get mod :( i voted for you in both phases
@CarrieKendall @StephanMuller Thanks. I'm happy with the mods we did get :)
yeah. those were some hard nominees to go up against
lol martijn had like over 9000 votes holy hell
@CarrieKendall Martijn got elected in the first iteration of the counting XD
19:15
how the hell did this get a bounty?
http://stackoverflow.com/a/28033705/124238
Heh this got downvoted. I suspect due to that first line.
19:34
@MadaraUchiha to be fair, it is completely ranty and irrelephant to the post
+1 for the commented, explained code though you ranty bastard
@CarrieKendall I removed the rant, it is a bit unprofessional.
But there are two extra deleted answers you can't see with equal or greater level of crap.
@MadaraUchiha okay, i am going to un-upvote and re-upvote for this
did you see the -10?
@CarrieKendall Still waiting on your canonical of the week.
@CarrieKendall nope, just the +10
19:39
pft, stupid.. smart system
i am at 478 words 3482 characters
so about a third done >:)
@CarrieKendall post it as a gist here first (and ping me)
@MadaraUchiha sure thing
19:55
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16131946/html-5-datalist-option

look at the duplicate question.. 4 not accepted answers with a score of 0, while the original at least has an upvoted accepted answer. Warrant a reopen vote?
Or leave closed because it's not a very good question?

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