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:is invisible:
or @STheFox just doesn't like that as an answer
unfortunately for him/her that is the most accurate answer
(primary voting begins in 1 hour)
@rlemon hopefully he's googling
no he's in another room asking peoples opinions on it
@rlemon I am thinking, would've expected to have a more detailed answer
thanks though!
:P
@STheFox how ?? the details can be endless depending on the need/project
@STheFox chat is not a great platform for in-depth answers
it's actually a terrible one for that
18:02
@rlemon I would've expected a different answer than 'because that IDE is recommended and works better with a language'. Different IDE's offer emulators for devices, autocompletion
neither of you said something like this
was a bit dissapointed
@STheFox PRODUCTIVITY!
they all group into productivity
That's incredibly easy to find out by googling
@TylerH Yes, of course. I thought you guys would know a bit more advantages
and don't say PRODUCTAIVITY again :p
PRODUCTIVITY
:p
lol
you asked a question and didn't like the answer
product...wait for it...ivity
@STheFox it's okay, rlemon is a codgy old badger some times :-)
18:03
well, men can't be happy with everything ;)
@rlemon I appreciate your answer though
I just don't know what else you want.
@rlemon I think you are a very PRODUCTIVE man :)
autocomplete, emulators, etc. they are not limited to the IDE
And please don't let this dissuade you from visiting chat in the future, @STheFox
@rlemon yes, think of genymotion emulator for android.
18:04
but next time ask better questions ;)
I prefer IDEs that let me map my spacebar to the fanspeed of my CPU
@TylerH Lol no, was just a question with honest opinions :)
@TylerH developers who deal with hardware are often grumpy
@rlemon it is a good question! :) Just a broad question with a lot of answers
18:06
@STheFox "what is the advantage of using an IDE for a specific technology" the only one answer that would handle your question is "because it is more productive" otherwise you'll have a five page long list.
@TylerH I'm in the midst of patching all of the clients :(
found a bug this morning that exists since v1
@rlemon I understand, maybe someone could have said it in a few lines; )
;)
@STheFox okay, well then you should phrase it "okay if the main purpose is because you are more productive, can you give some examples of how an IDE makes someone more productive?"
not "why do people use ides"
@rlemon ouch
what bug?
@rlemon answer that one! :D
@TylerH didn't notice it until now because I wasn't utilizing the second serial port. dtbo file doesn't address the device tree properly and the port is forever closed.
18:08
@STheFox are you looking for some answer along some lines...
?
secretly germinating all the wheat seeds with cotton sperm?
oh, a software bug
firmware bug
specifically, missing firmware.
but, being first and foremost a software guy, I ALWAYS blame my hardware first.
so I was looking for bugs in the serial board
accidentally fry the board and use that as an excuse to get a fancy new one
did you ever need to access the closed port?
or just now for the first time
@TylerH we made our own add on board with two serial ports - we only ever used the one port, so the device tree only identified that port -- I remember stopping there now with the intent on fixing it for both... but clearly never did
> What is the smallest width you design for, with regard to RWD?

480
320px
320
400px * 400px
18:15
I have a fix, it just means I need to remote patch a bunch of peoples firmware
@easwee did you vote?
yes
Hey guys,
I am having this problem:
18:24
When I hover an img in the .work class, it does hide in jQuery, which means the jQuery part acts correctly but there is a weird movement behaviour in my .work class div.
@HassanAlthaf because fadeout applies display: none at the end
    $(this).animate({ opacity: 0 });
change your hide to this
when you hide them the margins are lost (as it is display: none)
	margin: 10px 8px;
so you can refactor your html/css or change your js to just augment opacity
@rlemon they figured it out sort of in the JS room by changing the image display to block
ahh
neat
but.. its not working with his code base now.. just in the fiddle
THIS IS WHY YOU ASK IN ONLY ONE ROOM!
18:27
haha its my fault
I suggested he ask here
no one answered him for like 5 mins
then once I suggested someone came up with a fix
I like my solution better
:D
yours might fix his overall issue
@Loktar where'd that quote go
Holy crap sorry.
"the best way to find the answer to something is to post it on an internet forum claiming it can't be done"
2
18:28
@TylerH what quote :P ?
oh haha thats awesome and so true
Thats my whole HTML.
Well, the part.
okay, now try my solution
changing teh opacity doesn't effect the layout of your page
changing the display does
when that works you can send $5 to [email protected]
Dude.
You are the king.
Sure.
Is that email valid?
18:30
He was serious about the $5 panhandling btw X-D
that's why my name is lemon
le man
THE MAN!
He's Jamaican
I am seriously sending $5
French Jamaican
@HassanAlthaf nahh, just pay it forward
18:31
I am LE MON
go help someone else
What do you mean?
I need to finish that donation page I was building
!!urban pay it forward
@rlemon [pay it forward](http://pay-it-forward.urbanup.com/1912947) This is a reference to the title phrase of the book by [\[Catherine Ryan Hyde\]](http://urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Catherine%20Ryan%20Hyde).

In the book the phrase is used as the opposite of [\[payback\]](http://urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=payback): when someone does a good dead for you, instead of paying them back, pay it forward by doing a good deed for someone else.
18:31
@TylerH you just cost @rlemon $5
!!! :P
@Loktar <([a-z]+) [^/]?>
wtf?
!!info !
LOL 'good dead for you'
Welp, it was nice knowing you
18:31
@rlemon Command !, created by Ryan Ternier on Tue, 17 Feb 2015 23:41:47 GMT, invoked 1 times
!!forget !
@rlemon Command ! forgotten.
haha nice
I seriously logged on PayPal man
lol
haha I should set up a donation button .. maybe
18:32
:P
It is against the law of PayPal I believe.
once I actually have moved into my house it might be more tempting
Let me quote.
I cant remember which document it was in
collecting donations as a charity or non-profit organization;
Oh nevermind.
You can.
But 'collecting donations as a charity or non-profit organization;' requires pre-approval.
@SecondRikudo yap, I did the other way round, picked the image, rotated on canva. drawn the image and rotated the canvas back..
@rlemon dude I told u to ping me when you come online, dayum you ignore
18:36
sowy
are you free for 5 mins to discuss js?
I have a doubt
I have a doubt-corrector
@Mr.Alien Discuss away
I know hence I keep those doubts to clear in that calc... so its about arrays, well arrays are object, fine, but in js we cannot have key: val pairs in array, but when I do something like var test = [1,2,3]; and then I do test['neh'] = 1; so if I put test in cosole it returns the array but if I do console.log the property is set as a key value pair in that array.. now that is not what something I was expecting...
so any idea how does the array datatype is stored that even if I call the array it actually ignores the property
@Mr.Alien An array is a normal 'ol object with the Array construct.
Like all objects, it can have properties of its own (as well as methods)
Functions are the same.
!!> var fn = function() { return 42; }; fn.foo = "bar"; fn.printfoo = function() { console.log(fn.foo); }; console.log(fn()); fn.printfoo();
18:42
@SecondRikudo "ReferenceError: function9 is not defined"
yea, I did learned prototypes and it makes sense if we put down like this var test = new Array(1,2,3) and so on, so I compare it with a custom prototype function... but still I don't get it that how is 1 2 3 stored ... may be am getting into internals but am not sure
@SecondRikudo "undefined" Logged: 42,"bar"
@Mr.Alien how arrays are stored depends on implementation
that is possible if I do with new Date, new regex and stuff, but when I set it to a string object it won't set, then I learnt that string actually isn't an obj, js creates a wrapper object for that.. but the more deep i was going the more confused I was getting so left that part there
Each browser implements it a little differently.
18:45
hmmm so it depends on the engine
Chrome, IIRC, stores it as a LinkedList for arrays smaller than 3 items, but something else if more, or something like that.
when I did console.log on that array instead of this [1,2,3, neh: 1]; I was expecting something like [1,3,4], {neh: 1}
18:58
don't have such confusing data architecture
var app = {
  collection: [1,2,3],
  foo: 1
};
@rlemon kwel but that is not the structure it returns when called using console.log.. that explains though....
;)
19:39
animations are finally complete !! i wish i could show you guys they look pretty cool. My first time with any web animations.
@Phreak what animations
for that molex web site
@ZachSaucier Are you able to share that animation you were working on this weekend? Or is it an internal thing
@TylerH in his belly.
Since background: rgba(103, 103, 103, .6); will not work in ie8
how do i do this with hex. I tried background-color: #676767; opacity:.6; this adds opacity to everything not just background.
19:53
@Loktar ewww
@Phreak you have to use rgba
actually I think you can do transparency in hex
@Phreak one parent that wraps the background element and the content, then a seperate element behind with the opacity applied
187
Q: Hex transparency in colors

SweSnowI'm working on implementing a wigdget transparency option for my app widget although I'm having some trouble getting the hex color values right. Being completely new to hex color transparency I searched around a bit although I couldn't find a specific answer to my question. I want to set transp...

wonder if those work in IE8, thats pretty cool though
that is neat
so #996767676?
that doesn't seem right
done
have to counter all the upvotes @SecondRikudo is getting amiright?!
:P
@Loktar Damn straight
Unsurprisingly, Martijn already has an order of mangitude more votes than the rest.
woah wtf you actually did get 3 downvotes
whats weird is downvoting candidates lol
just don't vote for them
@SecondRikudo yeah I voted for him as well
jeeze man he has already gone up over 100 since i voted
how many do they pick overall? 3?
wait i fail lol i need to get more rep
@SecondRikudo +1
20:12
@Kitler Thanks :)
T-11 minutes and counting.
*almost
20:31
@Loktar i like it... Like/Don't like (share your opinion be it positive or negative)
@CSᵠ for an election I find it weird idk. When you vote for president you give a vote to a candidate, by the nature of voting for one you don't vote for the other
but you dont "take" a vote as well idk
@Loktar agreed, downvoting is kind of weird
@Loktar that's just a system, yeah different than what all are used to
but we also get to vote for all candidates instead of just three
that defeats the point of a primary
20:33
oh I thought we only had 3 votes to give out
which is to whittle candidates down
hah, yeah I agree @TylerH
no you can vote on all of them
election phase will give you 3 options, i like that one most, that one too aaaaand let's pick that one :)
damn nice, downvotes everyone but Second Rikudo
/me is joking.
20:34
lol
laaame SpaceX launch scrubbed
did you hear why, @rlemon ?
Probably cloudy...
@Loktar lol
no go no go no go SHHHRTUYI kjhglgHLFLYhlkh;JHlhgl ///////////
@TylerH clouds
" attached anvil clouds "
ugh i gotta talk about myself next week!
gotta sound super interesting yo!
lame
i know!
i choked on a cuttlefish speech in college
20:43
@TylerH internal for now. It'll be published on Codrops soon. Why do you ask?
@ZachSaucier just curious about the property/feature that gave you so much trouble
deals with animating clip paths
@Phreak was referring to the rocket launch scrub, not your impending speech
I have an interesting idea to create with clip paths, though I likely won't get around to making it until this summer :(
maybe support will have increased by then
20:45
lol, sure
xD
TBH I don't know if it'd actually help me with what I want to do with it
it's more complex, so would likely mandate SVG anyway
So sad to see bjb drop out of the moderator election
Why?
He seemed like a pretty polarizing candidate
another reason for hidden votes until ex post facto :-P
hey, I broke 12k
surprising, haven't given many answers in a while, lol
@ZachSaucier LOL
21:12
Google analytics: is this either a very subtle hint, or broken?
And, where do I find a heatmap in GA?
@Jonathan a heatmap of Georgia?
Sorry not interested in wildfires in Georgia
not sure what you mean then
a heatmap of what?
Pageclicks in analytics
OH
you meant Google Analytics, not Georgia
why would I want to do that, lol
just trolling
tbh wouldn't be that bad with HAML + SCSS
actually going to bookmark it as an option now that I think of it
he recraeted with paper
:P
22:23
@TylerH ahha
damn americans so egocentric
given the context, I don't see how Tyler could make that mistake, lol
:D
is he from georgia too?
22:48
is there a way in github to search commit messages?
yes just use the site's search
@joshhunt locally?
(i guess)
@Worf doesn't seem to work. Not sure how up to date they are but found some answers that suggest its not possible using their website
you can do it through the command line
22:50
@Purify well i was hoping to do it from the github website but it looks like I'll have to do it locally using git
but not through the ui.
yeah, that removed it at some point and didn't add it back yet.
does anyone know if adobe tag manager tries to load tags from both http and https on every page?
so stupid, I feel like it would be a commonly used function
I'm thinking that someone has some bad rules set up, but I dont really know much about adobe tag manager(nor do I want to)
@Rooster no idea sorry
22:53
and I dont have access to it either so I get to debug by proxy (YES!!!!!)
wait @Purify knows git? WOW sexy
LOL
i mean.... WOW
:D
did you guys check the primaries
too much scrolling
at the moment madara is fourth
23:54
The first step of my extension lets the user upload a file via either <input type="file"> or via drag n drop. Does it make more sense to have a next button to go to the next step or should it automatically go to the next step once a user has selected a file?
next button if there's no back button in the next step
if back exists then you can go to next step automatically
there is a back button, however the next step won't necessarily show the file they have chosen. My concern is that they might accidentally select the wrong file and not notice. Thoughts?
so go with the next button :P
Ok :D
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