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18:00
brb drinking another glass of despair for my country
@RyanKinal yea but you have the website
@rlemon lol, fair enough
and someone will have to write the image detection algos
need to know what it rolled.
It's like... CR++
!!urban cr++
18:04
@rlemon CR++ A language spoken by freaks
@rlemon but if u create one, is there a tool for that or u have to be a designer to do that?
@SuhasDeshpande what are you talking about?
MAKE SENSE MAN!
the pixelpeople
the I saw the pic u uploaed
and did you see the watermark on it?
not my image
18:05
:D yea.. but I saw people uploading this sort of pics now a days so I was curious
i plan on writing an application to procedurally generate those
I'll be bugging @Loktar a whole bunch :P
(be prepared Loke)
how are u planning on doing that if u don't mind me asking? any libraries?
Sooo, I accidentally left the "y" out of "analytics"
18:07
sweet what are you proceduraly generating?
40 mins ago, by rlemon
user image
@Loktar shit like this
lol
well you wont get any help from me unfortunately
figure for a start, it shouldn't be too bad.
18:07
since thats my project I plan on selling :p
bastard :P
Ooh, burn
yours don't look like this though, they are smaller.
you know what, i'll write mine and open source it and kill your sales. All because you didn't help
18:08
The other night I was watching jeopardy and one of the questions was what's the difference between mission statements and vision statements, and I knew it. It was the first time I've used my business administration degree, and I felt warm and fuzzy for 8 whole seconds.
yea yours are WAY smaller
i'm thinking for identicons
:P
oh and the best one
18:09
yea I see a clear distinction between them
mine will be more like unicornify.appspot.com
yours is more directed towards games
its directed at everything
@Loktar Dawwwww, they're adorable
@RyanKinal thanks :P
> Bootstrap your game project ....
fully procedural
18:10
^ @Loktar ;)
@rlemon there are some a few open source ones out there that do avatar generation
none I've seen use the method I use, because mine can generate all the things.
If my last name were Herring, I'd definitely name my child Red
or if Pokemon were real
those are the only two times
Tim Petruisky made one that does alien avatars
well fuck you bitch! give me tips on procedural generation! screw your project! TEACH ME!
no way dude, i came up with the method on my own lol
I even gave a talk at our local game dev meeting about it
not on how to do it just whats possible
18:12
well i'm sure you read some shit on procedural generation prior to that
I'm not asking for your technique. just a nudge in the right direction :P
not much honestly :?
I mean not for graphics like that
but FINE!.. be that way.
for stuff like terrain sure
I thought you were writing a game engine anyway lol
/me scratches off Lokes name from my birthday invite list
@Loktar i have like 30 projects on the go
lol I need to stop sharing ideas in the chats for realz
esp if I plan on monetizing anyway haha
18:13
this idea of mine came from the room bitching about gravatar today
and all of those css pixel people i've seen on codepen
yeah there is a decent one I cant remember the name
people use it on twitter
it creates avatars similiar to those, but just the busts
@rlemon cut them into pieces
well then Loke, if you are going to be all hush hush, at least tickle me this: is it sane to think I will require a starting pattern?
and then randomly place the pieces and colors
18:15
like, this is what all basic shapes start as, pass over them and augment accordingly. ?
like eyes/mouth/hair
I hate this time of year. too hot with the sweater on. too cold with it off.
the hardest part right now for me is animations
I'm working on animating the procedural created graphics
once thats done I'm going to release it
starbound had an article on how they did it, cant find it now
ha! gl on that.
no way in hell i'm trying for that
just thinking about it makes my head hurt
damn, is it wrong i'm trying to think of how I can covertly look at your code when I come visit you?
maybe if he gets on his Rift I can quickly peek at his generation file....
haha
for yours its not hard man
if you have like say 10 heads
10 mouths
10 legs/arms ect
then randomly match, and color
18:22
I was hoping to augment a single base point. only have things like shirt patterns and hair styles 'added in'
but I guess what you are saying is my idea for how to do it isn't insane. that is good to know
you could do that too
like have one shape
@Loktar well if you look at the sample I showed above. max 2 bodies, one head, two legs, 4 mouths, and a shitload of hair / shirts
19:04
@ZachSaucier are you around atm?
@TylerH What's up?
@rlemon That's my favorite time of the year
jsfiddle.net/55aYJ I can't get these <a> anchors to bottom align, nor can I get the grey background(w/ text) to fill the whole height of the space. I suspect JS might be needed for the second problem, though.
Any insight?
So you don't want height:100%, just align bottom?
I'm guessing variable height as well?
well height:100% would be nice if I could get all the <li>s to fill the parent div
the text inside <a> is variable length
So height:100% is acceptable?
19:17
I think so, yeah. But I tried to apply that and couldn't get it to work
'course
have to change it a bit
essentially just trying to make #s 1, 3, and 4 stretch to match #2 when it (or any other link) is longer
yep, I gotcha
one last clarification: You want the text vertically centered, not just a bg color for the extra space, correct?
correct.
flexbox or no?
sorry :P
I'll try both
19:21
heck, doesn't matter :-P whichever is the simplest to implement!
display: table-cell;
text-align: center;
vertical-align: middle;
can make the red grey
decided to not do flexbox, haha
a table-cell answer! can't escape them!
thanks for the help
it's helpful for vertical centering
could be another way, most likely with flexbox, but I have other things to do if this is acceptable :)
yeah thanks for dropping in :-)
No problem. I'm always willing to do my best to help
@jt0dd just saw your SO question, looking at it now
19:28
Cool, I appreciate it
Hey guys, has anyone here ever used Nettuts' Prefixr to generate cross-browser CSS ?
I haven't
@jt0dd What's wrong with the last demo? "And something that I just discovered, if I remove float:left from the wrapper" jsfiddle.net/Wr7X4/9
Removing float:left makes the elements act and look differently. Let me have another look
I assume you mean on your site you're actually implementing it on?
Yes, well that does make it work, but at the cost of me having to do a bit of reformatting throughout the whole page. And I imagine that someone, somewhere will actually need float left, while I'm just using if for convenience.
Yes, on my site.
I am redesigning the website of a company that is currently paying a butt-ton of money to a service that allows in-site chat with the employees. There is a button on the current site that opens up a new window and notifies employees here that a chat is open.

Any of you know of a free alternative? I was thinking of using something like Etherpad (https://etherpad.mozilla.org), but it is not designed as a chat program.
19:35
@Matthew IRC
IRC might have a slight barrier to entry, though
And develop them their own free one in 3 hours.
@jt0dd I think he wants something to just integrate
Something that he doesn't have to maintain
Or worry about
The CSS for it is already done.
Maybe so.
IRC would be good. I also need to be able to notify employees here that there is someone awaiting a chat response.
19:37
tlk.io is also a cool chat site
@SomeGuy but I find those ARE the ones that you have to worry about.
Yeah?
4
Q: Olark free alternatives

DappyI am looking for something similar to Olark. Such as reall time chat on a website with customers where you can use an IM client. I would also like it to be white label. Does anyone know of any free alternatives or a library you can drop into a project?

Might be some useful answers there
Matthew it sounds like you have some freedom in that project (since you're looking to change their chat services, but don't need to) and are well paid to do it, and it sounds like you want a feature that IRC (or possibly any free) chat service will probably not offer. why not really impress them and "build" a simple one by using the source provided for this chatroom tamas.io/simple-chat-application-using-node-js-and-socket-io
@jt0dd one more link to it and I am calling spam.
19:40
lol
I just wanted to ave him the trouble of scrolling up
1-800-spam
3
Hahahaha
@jt0dd, Thanks for the suggestion. I remember reading that a few months ago when I was learning node. This current project is within a LAMP environment so node.js is a no(de)-go. :p
And @jt0dd your question is impossible
19:58
Hey everyone. I found a chat plugin that works really well. I'll be adding it to my client's site later. In case you guys need something later try this out:
Not a fan of it actually looking like Facebook chat
hrm. I should press one of those.
a chat "plugin" for jQuery
seems like a winner to me
but there will be no other users. just cleverbot api
why jQuery
@rlemon DO IT!
@ZachSaucier because, cool train.
20:02
$.supaChat();
haha
okay.. that is what? 4 projects on my list from just today? you guys are assholes
nah, we're inspiration
STOP GIVING ME IDEAS!!!
or make the days longer than 24 hours
20:03
What else would entertain your busy mind?
which ideas are the 4 from today?
- jQuery chat
- Random number generator
chat plugin for jQuery, procedural image generation ...
oh random number generator, that's 3
@rlemon, you got some time to come over and fix my fence?
jQuery chat, random number generator, procedural identicons, and fair dice rolling machine
20:08
My neighbor went and kicked down some boards. His dog got into my yard and dug up my strawberries. Oh, you got some time to come over and kick my neighbor's dog?
I have all of the hardware at home for the fair dice rolling machine as well.
I thought num gen and dice were the same
num generator is based off images
take an image, read the RGBA values at given positions over the entire image, average them, run them through an algo to produce a repeatable random number for that image
A die roll will not be random because of the different masses of the sides due to the different number of holes. Roll a die 1,000 times and use the ratios for the numbers 1 through 6 to realistically weight each of the results from your software based die roller.
A valid point.
Seeking true randomness is futile!
20:10
Yeah, screw randomness. Make it realistic :p
wait, is .myClass a {} the same as .myclass > a {}?
@TylerH no
the first will take any children, no matter what level
the latter only takes direct children
so if a is the only child, it's effectively the same.
.myClass
  div
    a
^ first will match me, second will not
@TylerH yes, but why add an additional operator if not needed
if you know it will be the only a then .myClass a is better
okay
20:13
10
A: CSS child vs descendent selector

Josh LeitzelTheoretically the child selector will be faster than the descendant selector because the browser can stop checking child nodes after the first level. However, I suspect that any performance enhancement you see from this will be negligible as browsers parse CSS quickly in the first place. As Null...

more information on the subject.
the 'performance' he talks about is non existent.
^ meaning, it is so small you really shouldn't concern yourself with it
yeah I don't plan on this snippet being used by tens of millions of users
> Don't use > unless you mean it.
^ the point I was driving home
Where's @PatsyIssa been?
yes
Actually, CSS selectors are parsed in reverse - right to left, rather than left to right.
20:16
if I had:
.foo
  div
    a
  a

and I only wanted the a outside of the div, then I would use >, if the inner a didn't exist I wouldn't use >
@RyanKinal parsed !== evaluated. it sees the > and moves past it to get the context, then checks the document (afaik)
Oh, boo
I understood it after "the first will take any children [...] the latter only takes direct children" :-)
@TylerH who cares, you asked a question I find interesting. I'm telling everyone (and you) everything on my mind about it
I just felt bad for distracting you from your ever-growing list of things to do
also cool I didn't know you were obama
I'm not, I just have a nice tan going right now
20:18
from the light reflecting off of all that snow
I can see why you need the sunglasses
!!weather Kitchener ontario
@rlemon Kitchener: 7.08C (280.23K), scattered clouds
awww yiss baby. look at those positive temps.
dare I type it?
!!weather Atlanta
@TylerH Atlanta: 64.976F (18.32C, 291.47K), Sky is Clear
20:23
!!weather warren pa
@RyanKinal [object Event]
haha
@RyanKinal [object Event]
!!weather warren pennsylvania
20:24
@rlemon [object Event]
hrm. fuck yo city I guess
"city"
!!weather Warren County, Pennsylvania
@TylerH [](openweathermap.org/city/0): 44.5999F (7C, 280.15K), sky is clear
Warren is a city in Warren County, Pennsylvania, United States, located along the Allegheny River. The population was 9,710 at the 2010 census. It is the county seat of Warren County. It is home to the headquarters of the Allegheny National Forest and the Cornplanter State Forest. It is also the headquarters for the Chief Cornplanter Council, the oldest continuously chartered Boy Scouts of America Council, and the catalog company Blair. Warren is the principal city of the Warren, PA Micropolitan Statistical Area. History Warren was initially inhabited by Native Americans of the Seneca...
> Warren is a city in Warren County, Pennsylvania, United States, located along the Allegheny River.
check and mate
20:25
> The population was 9,710 at the 2010 census.
yea wasn't going to comment on that :P
> It is also the headquarters for the Chief Cornplanter Council, the oldest continuously chartered Boy Scouts of America Council
you can be proud of those
'strue. Even though I have nothing to do with that. And I've only been here four years.
impressive
work?
or just said "why not give hick town living a go?"
20:28
due to the timing of your reply, i'm going to believe you decided one day to pack yourself a backpack and $200 and hitchhiked to Warren
great way to start out your question: "I'm 100% sure this is a stupid question, but..."
link
My intarwubz is apparently going slowly
0
Q: My form won't submit?

user3516838I am 100% sure this is a stupid question, but please, help! All I want is a form that will send the results to an email address. I set up the form (using jquery to hide/show fields as needed and to provide toolkit info to some of the fields) and everything works great except when you hit "submit"...

20:28
Yes, I moved here for work
the validator expects inputs to be self closed. <input> should be <input /> it will also correct the highlighting and indenting in jsfiddle. — rlemon 4 secs ago
^ how sad is it that I knew that was his issue without reading his code
he also never closes the form
it's everyone's worst nightmare
a never-ending form
Like .NET WebForms
Fucking .NET WebForms
wow wtf
don't show @Loktar
oops. I guess the ping kinda ruined that :P
> BAN SCISSORS!
20:35
@RyanKinal ever worked with socket.io?
Hi folks. Can somebody here tell me the difference between the CSS selectors [attribute|=value] and [attribute^=value]? Based on the description I am reading, they seem to be the same..

[lang|=en] Selects all elements with a lang attribute value starting with "en"
a[src^="https"] Selects every <a> element whose src attribute value begins with "https"
I don't think I've seen the first one
MDN doesn't document it
Wait, no. It does. I'm wrong
WRONG
!!mdn css attribute selector
20:40
[attr|=value]
Represents an element with an attribute name of attr. Its value can be exactly “value” or can begin with “value” immediately followed by “-” (U+002D). It can be used for language subcode matches.
|= needs a - past the match
So, it seems like it would select elements with lang="en" as well as elements with lang="en-US" (or similar)
^= does not
@rlemon Not required. But possible.
hrm
there is your difference
en, en-anything both match lang|=en
envison does not.
20:43
Ah, yes
all match [lang^=en]
@agent154 you still with us?
@rlemon Yes, sorry - paging back and forth trying to read up on different CSS selectors at the same time
no worries, ^ read what we just said and check my jsbin link
jsbin looks like a neat tool
ahh, another canuk. welcome.
I should have caught on with "Yes, sorry - "
20:45
>_<
rlemon, Ontario, Canada.
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don't worry, you are in good company
lol
More than I can say about some channels, I suppose
@agent154 jsbin.com is a nice alternative to jsfiddle. sometimes I dislike that it is live.
Agreed
I like jsbin too, like the real-timeness, but it lacks formatting stuff in the editor (can't even tab multiple lines)
20:47
personally, aside from that, it is a much more robust prototyping service
Can somebody tell me which selector can be used to select a tag based on its text content? I have a question here that I can't answer because I can't find anything (easily, anyhow) talking about it:

Provide a Javascript code fragment using document.querySelectorAll to count the number of li in an ol that have the string Hello.

I know I can use document.querySelectorAll(ol li) to get a NodeList of all the <li> elements inside <ol> elements, but I don't know how to target text nodes.
there is no :contains pseudo selector anymore
you will need to use js
and you cannot select text nodes in css
I don't know if you ever will be able to
and the only way I know to get the text node in js is to loop over all child nodes and test for nodeType === 3
@RyanKinal might know of another alternative
ohh okay I just read your requirements fully.
@agent154 what university do you goto that this is a question?
Memorial University
Newfoundland
hrm, okay, then in full joking spirit, I understand why they are asking such a simple question ohh burn
what you want to do is this (it is homework so i'm not giving you working code, just concept)
var nodes = querySelectorAll(selector);
for( node in nodes ) {
  if( node.textContent.indexOf(myString) > 0 ) {
    alert('Match!');
  }
}
I stress, this will not work. you will have to get on the google to find out how to do that loop properly in js and how to keep track of how many matches there are
but it should get you going
you were looking for the textContent property and indexOf
however the use of indexOf here can be debated.
I think I can get going from here.
20:58
if your teacher tells you to use regexp in class for this, drop the course.
The course is already over.. :P I have my final exam on Friday
I'm just reviewing an assignment I didn't finish
ahh, cool cool
well if you really are learning JS stick around here and here
we are sarcastic, but helpful
gads that question gave me a lot of frustration
to think I was originally just looking at it because it started with "this is 100% a dumb question"
I've come out of it with an intense dislike for HTML5's nonchalant disregard for closing tags
This course is predominantly Java network programming (threading, network streams, client/servers, etc...) with HTML/CSS/JS thrown in at the end.
aren't classes for this purpose, of selecting fastly nodes
21:01
@agent154 that sounds random... those three at the end aren't really related to Java
it's like "here's a desktop environment programming course... oh and at the end we'll switch gears entirely to front-end web development"
The course is called "Network Computing with WEB Applications"
We made a small jetty web server as a project
OMG at some point Spotify added a Repeat-1 function
I am the happiest person alive
okay, it's 5PM and Gotterdammerung just finished. Bye for today all
21:32
alrighty.... http://jsfiddle.net/k3vTD/
im trying to get the black "flag" to have text aligned down it sideways and also trying to get it to not extend the FeedbackFlagContainer's <p>
help is appreciated!
So you mean text rotated so it's using the other elements right side as a baseline?
yea pretty much
you could rotate it using transform
just make it long ways then rotate it vertically
the whole element?
or just the text
yeah why not
21:37
true
so now ive got this
it is still in line to the <p> it looks like
sorry not the p
the <label>
position it absolutely
left:100%
position:relative on parent
i might need a wrapper then
cuz on the parent i have fixed positioning
its really close jsfiddle.net/k3vTD/3
figuratively and literally
lol
21:56
you can do it
im gettin closer
gotta drive home tho
22:16
@Bubbas, is your helicopter in the shop? Use your backup helicopter. Unless your wife took yours after a divorce, all of us programmers have helicopters.
or jetpacks, I prefer jetpack for mobility
bike <-
22:34
I heard @rlemon hires a rickshaw driver.
I wish. those rates man. killer this time of year
I've recently adopted teleportation. much easier.
@rlemon Ha! I read it on the internet; it must be true!

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