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9:00 PM
Mashing up web and IoT talk from the conference (sadly I missed this one) - another I really enjoyed
 
@rlemon what are your views on weird people?
 
what a silly question
 
Ok @Zach what do you think of hipster devs
 
still a silly question
 
@ZachSaucier holy shit. those emails
 
9:05 PM
Are boilerplates necessary to make a website look good?
 
@PeeHaa I know right
@Matthcw no
 
Thanks.
 
poll: does it help you read text if you hober over something, and it looks slightly different?
 
Only on clickable text like links
Not on articles
 
not on paragraphs also?
 
9:08 PM
No
 
@ZachSaucier Reeeaaaaally amazing
 
crazy stupid too, hahaha
 
why don't you want to help focus their eye where the link is?
 
@Zach in the scenario that a newbie programmer makes a product and the code and everything is bd, but the product is very good in that a lot of people start using it
 
@easwee @PeeHaa Give him a shout out twitter.com/M_J_Robbins
 
9:09 PM
Is he successful or not and will he go down in flames later on?
 
"Email developer"
Very rare to see that not ironically
 
woa, got the most mafia coke bottle ever
 
@Matthcw stop asking bad questions. Too many variables, too general
 
what ui design podcasts do you listen to?
 
@Zach Watch your tone.
jk jk
 
9:11 PM
I don't like my time being wasted
 
Ok the question is
 
@ZachSaucier yet you spend it here with us asshats :-D
 
at least I learn some things from the regulars
and enjoy my time (sometimes)
 
Do successful products have to be made by professient programmers?
 
we feel special (sometimes)
 
9:11 PM
proficient*
 
@Matthcw of course not.
 
@Matthcw look at SharePoint
 
About to look at sharepoint now.
 
it says "give a kiss to your boss"
only sold in italy.
 
9:13 PM
Ahahaha your bracelet
 
Just looked at sharepoint
What about it?
 
@Matthcw you have to really look at it
not just the word
inspect some sharepoint site code
 
No the Microsoft product
 
work with it, etc.
 
9:14 PM
But it's Microsoft, it can't be bad can it
 
@Matthcw cant tell if serious >.>
 
@TylerH that's nothing
 
Im Serious @cimmanon
 
@RonaldUlyssesSwanson you have spikey underwear as well?
 
not everyone knows what you know ok
 
9:14 PM
i'm nearly 30 and i still wear metallica tshirts
 
@Matthcw Microsoft has lots of popular products
and uses a lot of bad practices
you know the whole IE6-8 thing
 
Ohh, so you're saying
 
i think microsoft's only good product is SQL Server
 
SharePoint handles markup terribly
 
Woahhh
 
9:15 PM
it puts everything in 100 containers
It will put a whole page in a <span>
 
I'm learning a lot by just chatting to you guys on this site
 
admittedly, they care about stuff more now than they did 10 years ago
or 15
because now they have a lot more competition in important markets
like browsers, mobile, consumer computing
 
My aim is to do big stuff in the software, technology and digital media world
 
Im getting so crazy. I got this: jsfiddle.net/oh2xcgoL but I want it to be like this: jsfiddle.net/oh2xcgoL/1 (please compare both to see difference).. why does bootstrap.css resource affect the html and how can i prevent it :(
 
Start with the fundamentals
a solid foundation is key if you want to really make a career out of it
 
9:17 PM
But I know I will be getting a lot of love from people but definitely a lot of hate
 
@TylerH sometimes i sleep with my face over it, for penitence
 
Because my way of doing this is kind of different
 
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Q: How to use Bootstrap admin Dashboard in Asp-Net Mvc 5 web app?

Fatiz AglifI am developing a website and now want to create an admin panel and want to use this template http://themeforest.net/item/kode-responsive-admin-dashboard-template-/full_screen_preview/10814250 i downloaded this Bootstrap admin dashboard For the first time and need to know more about how to use ...

Buzzword level over 9000
 
@Karem bootstrap styles change things
 
@ZachSaucier I know, but cant i prevent it for a whole element :(
 
9:18 PM
@Karem stop using bootstrap? :p
 
@Tyler what advice would you give a CS undergraduate beginning college/uni?
 
looks like its mostly just changing the font-size?
 
@Matthcw what languages do you know?
 
@Karem you can override it
 
PHP, JavaScript, ActionScript and thats all I can think of right now minus the other web dev languages.
 
9:20 PM
@cimmanon I kind of need to, or, I need to style the .cb_qb in a way that no other stylesheets can affect it
 
Don't laugh at me
 
@Matthcw why are you focusing Tyler? :P
 
Because I assume you're busy
 
@ZachSaucier Really? I'm listening..
 
I want to start Java and C++ by the end of this year
How do you guys see that going?
I don't want to have to learn too many languages for no reason
 
9:21 PM
@Matthcw Well, you can try to create an app with what you know now and see how it does on the market, or you can learn a new language
it depends on what kind of thing you want to do
 
I can't see any instances of the bootstrap.css with the debugger..
 
I.e learn PHP then ASP then Perl then Python
 
e.g. if you want to write 3D intensive software then C++ is probably a good step
 
Yeah 3D Games
 
but if you want to make mobile apps, you should probably learn Swift
 
9:22 PM
look, @Matthcw, you have high aspirations. That's great! Take your time now and find out what you actually want to do. You can't do everything. Then take real, measurable steps towards that end
 
But also want to use lwjgl for games
 
@Matthcw what languages you should be learning depends a whole lot on what you want to write. there isnt a whole lot of demand for kernel programmers who only know php :p
 
stop asking us what you need to learn until you know what you actually want to do
 
@Matthcw Are you familiar with the S.M.A.R.T. acronym?
 
@Karem it's the same way you can override any CSS....
 
9:23 PM
I know exactly what I want to do
I have written so many notes
Games, Apps, Websites and Software(Maybe)
 
that's not exactly.
 
But definately the first three
 
^
that's broadly
 
@ZachSaucier Yes, but what's there to override.. ? I cant find what inside the bootstrap.css that messes with it
 
you may as well have said "i want to write anything"
 
9:23 PM
it is not a product
@Karem use your dev tools
 
I don't want to do no rocket programming, no ultra advanced FBI security anti virus programming
 
@ZachSaucier I already do this
 
@Matthcw Until you can tell us exactly what you want to do, there's no way we can really help
 
9:25 PM
@ZachSaucier I cant spot anything from bootstrap.css
 
Ohh sorry
 
Other than type.less things ?
 
No i am not familiar with that
@Zach
s.m.a.r.t
 
It stands for Smart, Measurable, Attainable, Realistic, Timely
try to craft your "goals" according to those things
 
What does it apply to
 
9:25 PM
then it will be easier to begin
 
Oh,
 
Saying "my goal is to get healthy" is not "SMART"
 
How about
 
Sorry, S stands for Specific
not Smart
 
"My goal is to get 6 pack abs"
 
9:26 PM
better, but still not good enough
 
"My goal is to exercise every day in order to get to below 10% bodyfat"
 
nearly there
 
Help :(
 
that's not really a great starting goal because of the complexity surrounding body fat percentages
 
My goal is written
Programming, Game Web App (Developer and Designer)
3D Modeller Rigger and animator
2D designer animator and illustrator
Music Procucer
 
9:28 PM
A good goal would be "I want to lose 10 pounds over the course of the next month". It's specific, it's measurable, it's probably attainable (unless you are already skinny), realistic (easily doable), and timely.
 
and Sound Designer and Engineer
 
@Matthcw Okay, so you want to be an indie game developer
 
Yes but not just indie games
I want to be an entrepreneur too, with these skills
 
@TylerH Don't waste your time :P
 
9:29 PM
A few months ago i launched a site called
 
@ZachSaucier could you find anything ?
 
we've told him what he needs to do
 
What do you guys think of this site anyway?
Meant to be a small online business thing
 
@tylerH he might be a lost cause, he was doing on about all of this earlier today, too
 
@Karem I'm available for hire for debugging and mentoring if you need specific help with your applciation codementor.io/zachsaucier
@cimmanon and the past couple days
 
9:31 PM
@ZachSaucier 4.9 out of 5 stars? I wouldn't trust it...
pretty sketch!
 
@Zach Im not a lost cause
 
the only non-5s are from vamps who I said I wouldn't continue to help, I'm sure
 
I know what I need to do, I'm just very inquisitive
 
i wasnt going to say anything at first, in case he had something real to say this time >.>
 
9:31 PM
I've now learned to end the session then say I can't help in the future
 
i think its just a minor thing i missed ugh
 
@Zach I hope you realise in my autobiography after I've made I'm going to mention you and a bunch of others for giving me sht while on my Journey
 
@Matthcw Your certificate isn't valid...
 
rofl
 
@Matthcw don't take things so personally
 
9:33 PM
I mean it in a joking funny way, but serious too lol
 
people won't take you seriously if you complain about others, even half-jokingly
 
Him and a bunch of guys thinking I'm the "GUYS I have an epic idea for an app it will make millions, i just need one of you to make it and promise ill give you half the revenue"
 
We are srs ppl here
 
Im the realest deal there can possibly be
 
@Matthcw Once you show me reason to take you seriously, I will. That simple
 
9:35 PM
Ok
I'll try
visit my site?
www.matthcw.com
damn
 
the site thats configured wrong?
 
and visit the portfolio
what do you mean by configured
 
I already have
 
Umm, I like to program @Zach ?
 
you make flash movies and games - great!
 
9:36 PM
Have you gone to sendmojis.com
sendemojis
 
> You tried to access the address http://matthcw.com/, which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the web address (URL) is correctly spelled and punctuated, then try reloading the page.

Secure connection: fatal error (80) from server.
 
I'm pretty sure t works
 
@cimmanon PEBCAK
 
@TylerH if you say so.
 
Lol
damn
I just had to search PEBCAK
You guys know a lot of this technology stuff
 
9:39 PM
stop using so many messages to say something that can be said in 1
 
BTW @Matthcw there is no such thing as a 10km marathon
 
It's a habit
There is, it's common
 
6.2 Miles
 
@Matthcw No it is not
 
9:40 PM
new vamp added to list
 
@Matthcw 6.22 miles is a 10km race
 
A marathon is 42.195 km
 
a marathon is 26.22 miles
 
The marathon is a long-distance running event with an official distance of 42.195 kilometres (26 miles and 385 yards), usually run as a road race. The event was instituted in commemoration of the fabled run of the Greek soldier Pheidippides, a messenger from the Battle of Marathon to Athens. The marathon was one of the original modern Olympic events in 1896, though the distance did not become standardized until 1921. More than 500 marathons are held throughout the world each year, with the vast majority of competitors being recreational athletes as larger marathons can have tens of thousands of...
 
Oh yeah, I guess its called "run"
 
9:41 PM
there might be plenty of 10km races, but a marathon is not 10km
 
a half marathon is 13.11 miles
 
Why do you guy's know a lot
 
@Matthcw we asked google.
 
Oh
 
yeee got my DMG back
 
9:42 PM
Reminds me of something Henry Ford said
 
@Matthcw I run
 
@Mr.Alien What ping you get on EU?
 
well, i did anyway, those other guys might be into that kind of stuff and knew it off the top of their heads >.>
 
@cimmanon implying you're a guy?
I knew it
 
@cimmanon duuuuuuuuuuuuuude
 
9:43 PM
meh, chicks have been known to say "hey guys" as being inclusive of both men and women :p
 
So @cimmanon you're a girl?
 
womano
 
@Matthcw does it matter?
 
she a doge
 
I thought everyone here was a guy
 
9:44 PM
bye all
home time
 
later bra
 
Bed time*
it's 22:44 in my counrty meaning it's the same in yours
because the world revolves around me
 
fourth project started!
 
Aaaaaand it's "paused"
 
Looks like I returned at the right time.
 
9:49 PM
it's fun stuff this time. i'm photoshopping a ferrari into a rally stage :P
 
Nope
@Zach I read your blog now I understand why you were mad at my questions earlier
Lmfao, I thought it was irrational anger just because it's me
 
@Matthcw do you mean my "Why I still contribute to SO" article or what?
 
Yes
Also
As a Web developer, what do you honestly think of my website?
 
it's crap.
 
Why?
 
9:58 PM
@ZachSaucier thats kinda harsh. havent you ever made something that you worked really hard on and had someone come along and say the same thing?
 
Yes
he asked for my honest opinion
 
you can come up with something more constructive than "its crap"
 
@Matthcw too many reasons to list TBH. Mostly the way it's designed. I don't have time to give a detailed list of things
 
Oh ok, but I have to go now I have to sleep thanks for your input I may be back later in the week
Good bye
 
@cimmanon if he were paying me or if I took him seriously then my response would be different (some)
 
@ZachSaucier i am not suggesting writing a novel, but you could say something like "it looks disorganized" or "the contrast is too harsh" or "it all runs together due to lack of whitespace"
 
Like I said, "too many reasons to list TBH. Mostly the way it's designed. I don't have time to give a detailed list of things"
And who are you to be calling people out on being harsh, Mrs. Negative? :P
 
@ZachSaucier hey, i will totally shit all over someones choice of language or how lazy they are or whatever, but i am not going to shit all over someone's legitimate hard work that they are proud of
unless you wrote the language i am criticizing, then i am going to shit all over it :p
 
lol
such consistency
 
@ZachSaucier followed - has good tweets
 
10:06 PM
ARRRRRR FUCKING COIL BURNT AGAIN
 
@cimmanon But but but I am proud of PHP!
 
suck ma dik
 
@PeeHaa i am convinced there is a special place in hell reserved for the author of php :p
(not that i believe in hell, just saying)
 
I certainly hope so. The code rasmus writes is worse than a potato would do
 
@cimmanon is definitely the good doge of this room.
Otherwise, I still wonder if Matthcw is actually a troll. Like a really good one
 
10:08 PM
I'm respectfully scared of cimmanon
 
@Sippy why is that?
 
Cos u scary
Mostly cos you know CSS and I can't CSS
like even
 
@Sippy ecig?
 
@RonaldUlyssesSwanson ye :(
 
irony (only his name is misspelled)
 
10:10 PM
@RedBreast I wonder if he has aspergers.
Seems possible
 
I think he's just a naive kid
I know several people who are similar
 
Mm
He seems managery
I don't like managers
 
he probably thinks everyone is being mean to him for shitting on his dreams. hes just too naive to realize that all of us were probably that guy back when we started doing this stuff, too
 
dunno.
He'll either find a way to fit in or he won't
 
reality is, hes probably more like the guy from basketball. "im going to be a basketball star when i grow up!". flash forward 20 years and hes done nothing
 
10:13 PM
Lol
 
thats probably too harsh (plus, in the end he did end up meaning something to at least some people)
 
Never know
 
ever played "world of goo"? pretty sure that was all made by 1 dude. music, art, etc.
 
From what he said earlier he's looking for superstar developers to work for free on his dream
That ain't gon' happen
 
42 mins ago, by Matthcw
@Zach I hope you realise in my autobiography after I've made I'm going to mention you and a bunch of others for giving me sht while on my Journey
 
10:16 PM
if he can figure out how to inspire people to follow him, it could happen. not likely, though
 
@cimmanon That game was actually enjoyable
 
if your journey isn't filled with people "giving you shit", you took the wrong path and probably ended up being shit.
learning how to take criticism is important.
 
vOv
 
i should stop avoiding rewriting these queries ><
 
@Sippy since when does coddling anyone work out :P
 
10:25 PM
@Sippy Then I discovered this aspergers syndrom. Interesting. The symptoms are fairly accurate, could actually be possible
 
user image
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lol
 
@cimmanon Awesome game, Indie game for sure, dunno if it's one person. But we could talk about FEZ (even if Phil Fish was deeply depressed, he would probably have kill himself if the game would have fail) or Braid from Jonathan Blow.
 
part 1 http://i.imgur.com/j7BB06v.png
part 2 http://i.imgur.com/9pr64xz.jpg
 
i dunno, the fact that his dream is to make "apps" just sounds like he is trying to cash in. unless he and i are thinking of something totally different when we hear the word "app"
 
Definitely not a very "good" developer's perspective indeed.
Brain low battery, cya'
 
10:35 PM
@RedBreast Yeah
 
car is too clean to be on that track
needs some water drops
little slush in the tires
also I still see the road reflection in the car
 
give me time :P
 

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