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12:15 AM
So, what's up?
 
hello people. I was wondering are meta tags that tell robots not to index a page work? I've asked some developers and they say that robot meta tags are just a waste of code since they don't work. So is this true?
 
@Mdermez to an extent, nice robots such as Google, Bing will listen to them but evil robots such as spammers, data collectors will of course just ignore them
 
I've been told from the developers in Adobe that not indexing pages and generally the meta tags about robots are not supported anymore. :/
 
12:31 AM
Does he have evidence? See:
https://yoast.com/articles/robots-meta-tags/
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/79812?hl=en
http://www.bing.com/webmaster/help/which-robots-metatags-does-bing-support-5198d240
and also look at robots.txt: http://www.robotstxt.org/
 
ok thanks
 
Hi guys, I'm developing a website and I was wondering what was the current standards when it came to linking different html pages. For example, when a user clicks a button that redirects to another page I would usually do <a href=...> but now, I am hearing about stuff like angularjs and I was wondering if that is what should be used to develop or is href linking still cool?
 
@JeelShah uh... it completely depends on how you want to build it. Angular definitely isn't the standard if thats what you are asking
 
@joshhunt ohh okay. I'm basically building a website where users can sign in, sign up and connect with other users. I'm using Parse as my backend but for the frontend, I was going to display different views by doing an href or something but I have a feeling that's not the best way.
 
depends on the content.. the more the content the more sufficient the websites structures needs to be. So yes you have to go with something better than just different html views.
 
12:40 AM
It's kinda going to be like a social network so there's a bunch of stuff that's going to be happening like posts etc. The page is supposed to auto refresh. What do you recommend in this situation?
 
Again it depends on how you want to build it, there's a million different ways/libraries/frameworks to do what you want
 
What's the recommended method? I mean, I'm pretty new to web development so I'm in another territory here.
 
Sorry but there is no "recommended" way. Its personal preference, do you want to use XMLHttpRequest (Ajax)? Do you want to use a framework?
 
I would prefer framework I think; I have no experience in Ajax.
 
1:04 AM
Is there any room that I can discuss about drupal? I have some questions that I would like to ask.
 
1:31 AM
can anyone help me with youtube iframe api?
 
 
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3:01 AM
morning
 
morning
 
@NullPoiиteя @Gemtastic evening
 
I should probably get some sleep before I go to my interview :P
 
good luck
@Gemtastic
okay so im trying to show just the player in full width and height can anyone help here is link for fiddle jsfiddle.net/2m8teact
 
@Gemtastic all the best , good luck for interview :)
 
3:06 AM
@NullPoiиteя Thanks. :)
 
@Gemtastic @NullPoiиteя sorry for ping but can you guys help just asking
 
@rlemon is there an easy way to figure out the x,y position of vertices from a rotated rectangle in canvas? Need it for collision detection. Pretty sure the answer is no but thought I'd check just in case.
 
@NullPoiиteя Wanna know something funny?
Swedish scientists actually found that nicotine is not addictive.
 
its weird
var vwidth = window.innerHeight;
var vheight = window.innerWidth;

should work
 
3:17 AM
@rlemon Looks kinda familiar but I don't recall
 
@Gemtastic but harmful for human body
 
It's something else in the cigarettes that's addictive. Most of the addiction is also mental; which is also why it's so hard to break. You can't detox from yourself
 
I don't have very many answers about placeholders and none of them seem to match
 
@NullPoiиteя Yes, it's still a bad thing to use.
It's just not the addictive part
 
4:06 AM
 
4:34 AM
JUst lived a dream
played warcraft 2 on a mobile device on a touch screen
heh now to be able to play it w/o needing the cd drive connected
 
5:11 AM
posted on March 25, 2015

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
5:42 AM
hi
 
morning
 
6:03 AM
@TylerH there are many cases where you speak something about some popular person and you end up get beaten or legally sued .
 
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Q: How to put tool tip on the left when using <md-sidenav> using material?

SajeetharanI am using side navigation in my angular application, i am using buttons inside the side navigation with a tool tip on it. But it displays in bottom of the icon, i need it on the left side. I dont see any css attached to it. Here is the code and plnkr: <md-sidenav layout="column" class="md-side...

 
@easwee people want stuff for free ;)
 
6:44 AM
@Sajeetharan plz stop using plunkr and put the code in SO snippet
@Mr.Alien :D
 
@easwee SO snippet is terrible tbh
 
@easwee Stack snippet is not that good
 
7:19 AM
poll: would you explain today a total noob how html BC outline works, or would you just let him use sectioning elements with (most of times) only <h1>?
i don't see why one should use HTML4 outline today, but maybe i'm wrong?
 
@FrontpageExpert no I wouldn't
sections are the dumbest thing in html ever
 
what do you mean? you mean that are easy to understand?
 
no I mean there's no significant difference between using <div> and <section>
<article> make much more sense
 
ah, yeah
html4 outline is way more complex to understand tho
that's why i'd just skip it
 
and the whole logic behind is just plain stupid - my opnion
 
7:25 AM
logic behind... what?
html4 outline?
 
no
multiple h1 tags and headers
in html5
 
why is that stupid? :|
that's the biggest achievement in html5. h1h2h3h4h5h6 were just idiotic
 
lol
 
get a coffee!
 
no I won't
 
7:27 AM
you are speaking monosyllabic
 
I'm entitled to my opinion and I find it stupid - you have my poll answer
 
now I'm getting a coffee
> The section element represents a generic section of a document or application.
> The div element has no special meaning at all. It represents its children.
same shit generic or no meaning
 
posted on March 25, 2015 by kbironneau

/* by JoLabrycol */

 
div is transparent to outline @easwee section isn't
guys is SOW an abbreviation of "speaking of which" or am i inventing neologisms again
 
7:37 AM
!!urban sow
 
@easwee sow a female police officer, a female [pig] is called a sow
 
apparently not really :D
 
> Acronym for "Spirit of Wolf." A spell in EverQuest that makes your character run much faster than normal. It's considered one of the most valuable spells in the entire game.
"need sow for corpse run!!!!!!!!!111"
btw what you have been up to @FrontpageExpert still working like mad?
 
internet didn't work for two weeks
because snow
i hate snow
 
7:45 AM
wtf lol
we haven't got any except for the time I was screaming snooow on chat
 
we didn't have much either, but enough apparently to kill my internet
 
'TALIA
bleh maintenance mode until 10am
I have time lal
 
so BBC sacked Clarkson. they suck
 
8:26 AM
<alien meme for snow.png>
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/29250693/… . are there some corrections needed
 
8:43 AM
@FrontpageExpert Guardia di finanza is here at my office 8|
 
No joke
 
hope it's all right :D caccia alle streghe
 
I think our company is somewhat in the clear, though I'm sure every company has its particulars
We have an entire booklet full of operating system dvds and sql server dvds
I'm sure they could easily be here all day checking that
 
@NoDownvot Div rotaion --> rotation
 
8:46 AM
o/
 
problem is that, the parent <-- no comma
 
that's the last of the problems, no? @Neil id worry more of accounting
 
@NoDownvotesPlz why did you pick that name?
it really makes me want to downvote you every time
 
@FrontpageExpert we outsource our accounting I think
Most of it anyway
 
@Neil do you know what "studi di settore" are?
basically if your business is not billing consistently to nation's average, you are considered to be a tax evader automatically
 
8:51 AM
morning everyone btw
 
@FrontpageExpert yeah, I've heard about that
 
9:52 a.m. in Germany
 
That's kind of a load of bull. That's like saying that it isn't possible to make below the average and that you're pocketing the money
 
@Neil it's fucking pathetic... just absurd
 
system is sort of broken
not that united states tax system is any better
 
8:53 AM
@Neil what's ridiculous most, is that the average is calculated on very generic business sectors
 
@FrontpageExpert not based on national statistics?
 
for example I can do pretty much everything about IT services, that means that i should sell the same of, say, mediaworld
because the "websites creation" sector doesn't actually exists
it's "generic IT consulting"
it's all fucked up
 
aside from the fact that half presumably make less than the expected average, so half of all italian companies are automatically tax evaders, unless I understood it incorrectly
 
8:58 AM
yes, that, basically
 
nice. So essentially you're a struggling business owner, you might as well back out now
 
the guys that does my accounting is warning me constantly about that
hope i'll be fine
 
Also, I've understood that if you bankrupt your company, all personal profits are yours under a certain kind of company, so you could say, start a business, earn a bit of money, pocket all company assets and bankrupt it..
and that this sort of thing is somewhat commonplace
 
i don't know that, but everything is possible in italy, except being sane
 
My wife worked for a while as a help hotline
 
9:02 AM
I believe that is common in the UK as well.
But tbh I haven't read the whole conversation
 
they hired people using contract by project
meaning they can let someone go simply by letting their contract expire and not renewing it
 
> basically if your business is not billing consistently to nation's average, you are considered to be a tax evader automatically @mikedidthis
 
nice. Charge extra for pasta and shit? :P
 
The government made it so that you pay low taxes on people this way, and so it is an incentive to use (and hire, in theory)
However, you can do this a maximum of 3 times before you must either hire permanently or permanently let them go
 
and, you can't prove the opposite. even if you did everything right and your best, if you aren't in line with nation's average you are screwed
 
9:05 AM
This company my wife worked for made a point to make employees "unemployed" for a month so that they could once again rehire using contract by project
So you have people going without a paycheck for a month thinking they're going to get rehired
 
@Neil yeah that's a classic
 
they could let go their entire workforce in a pinch without any penalty
 
i know, it's ridiculous
 
It's like the american equivalent of lowering the minimum wage
lowering the minimum wage means companies feel like they can afford more workers, but it also means they can pay each one the bare minimum
 
9:07 AM
They need to make it easy to fire someone and easy to hire someone
It is a meritocracy system that encourages people that work hard to stay hired
otherwise companies doing mediocre will never hire for fear of there being a recess and not being able to let go people
 
What tag is this and what is responsible for:
<%

It's in legacy app using node.js + express, angular.js
it wraps inline jscode which gets executed but cant find it in browser page source

wtf
 
easy to fire/hire is not necessarily bad, as long young people is involved. but middle age people with family gets the same treatment
 
@Ultra It looks like a server-side code tag
 
Pooooop
 
that is really wrong
 
9:11 AM
o/
 
@mikedidthis ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
 
morning
 
@DarkAshelin hey sexy <3
@FrontpageExpert mwah
 
@KeyboardWarrior urm... thanks.
 
@FrontpageExpert I think that if you're middle-aged and you're not benefiting the company as much as a young person, time to switch jobs
 
9:12 AM
@mikedidthis xD
@Neil a bit harsh no?
 
@Neil cant find any on google
 
!!tell stephanmuller gfy
 
@KeyboardWarrior This idea that older folks have to stay hired is kind of holding back the rest
If they stay hired, it should be because they contribute, like anyone else
 
@Neil at some point at around 30 one is not supposed to switch jobs anymore
 
9:13 AM
If anything, they shouldn't be fired simply because they're old
 
@FrontpageExpert why
 
@Neil I don't disagree with you, but they have families, debts etc...
just throwing them away is inhumane :/
 
because at 30 you are not willing to rise through the ranks anymore, learn new things
because you likely have a family to maintain
 
@Ultra you won't find it in the source, as you mention, its been executed?
 
i know it looks a communist thought, but alternative is yeah, inhumane. i mean there must be a valid reason to fire someone, not just its age, or because hiring youths is cheaper
 
9:19 AM
@mikedidthis yeah. I know its some kind of serverside or custom tag but struggeling with finding any info about it on net, so wanted to see if any of you ever seen it
<% code %>
 
@KeyboardWarrior So lets put them on a multi-billion dollar pension for life at the government's expense
 
Dont think thats inhumane... More of a chance to re-think if your life has taken the right direction
 
there's more than one side to the issue
 
if you live your job-life just to pay of your debts something is wrong
 
@Ultra its some sort of template language. Its pretty hard to narrow down, unless you know if its being rendered server or client side.
 
9:20 AM
it's easier to sympathize for the individual, but that doesn't necessarily make it a good decision
 
kkthnxbye
 
@Herr_Schwabullek what if you have kids? you can't actually change your mind if you have kids
 
I#Ve got 2
 
@FrontpageExpert it's not a communist thought - in communism everyone was employed
 
*I've
no problem with this. My co-workers (and me too) switched jobs when we were mid-30... I think you have to stay interested in new technologies and you have to love your job at least a little
 
9:23 AM
good companies don't hire based on such idiotic logic
 
@StephanMuller just changed it few days ago.. because of this meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/288327/…
 
@easwee which logic?
 
the incorrect logic is that an older person shouldn't be hired because he's old
 
@Herr_Schwabullek that old people are worthless to the company
 
If this is a non-problem, then older people can get fired/hired as much as anyone else
 
9:24 AM
@Neil that too
 
thats plain stupid
 
Heck, older people offer more experience. It's not like they're going to die on the job
 
our best software architects are all over 40
 
@Neil exact my pov
 
some older people get a little slow as they age (>70), and for these people, I simply just don't think they deserve the same salary, same benefits, same luxuries they had when they actually earned them
 
9:26 AM
@Neil I would hope no one is working > 70
 
take a look at elder politicians or scientists
 
but at the same time, they should be hired to do something less challenging and still make a good bit of money
 
there are a lot of brilliant minds >70
still working and active
 
Its not an age thing, I just think you can't work your entire life. Go chill out.
 
this idea that you can't fire someone just because they're old is just as silly as justifying firing someone just because they're young and can easily find new work
 
9:28 AM
as being ober 40 I have to second @Neil
*over
 
being experienced in one field doesn't mean i'll be fine on any other
 
@FrontpageExpert second this too
when I began to study Fine Arts many years ago I met (talented) artists who discovered their talents after they've quit theit previous jobs
 
that's what i'm saying. if i'm 50 and i'm a sales manager, i can't become a programmer anymore
 
@FrontpageExpert I hope you don't feel sorry for this
 
@FrontpageExpert Can't teach an old dog new tricks eh?
 
9:32 AM
yes
 
If you've been a sales manager for a long time, can you not simply become a sales representative instead?
 
not because at 50 one is a retard. but because there's just not enough time to learn
unless clearly you still want to work at 80
 
You wouldn't start over in a new field, you'd just take a smaller role in the same field
 
@Neil what if no one is looking for sales persons?
 
posted on March 25, 2015 by kbironneau

/* by ultrahax */

 
9:35 AM
@FrontpageExpert If a company decides you shouldn't be sales manager anymore, you think they wouldn't be able to fit you into a salesman job instead?
 
@FrontpageExpert in india retirement age is 58.. most of them who earn enough quit in 50's
 
"no one" maybe not in a specific area
 
if no one is looking for the experience i have i can wait only for a limited amount of time
 
what is html BC outline btw?
 
@KeyboardWarrior !!phanks
 
9:39 AM
on call
html4 backwards compatible outline @mikedidthis
 
ahh ok. Go future
 
nice article about XHTML/HTML4 Outlining webdesign.tutsplus.com/articles/…
as this being the first time in this chat room for me: what is the purpose of these dotted lines (".catchup-marker" in the DOM) between some postings?
 
unread messages
 
oh wow
I'd never realized that
 
9:44 AM
me neither.
 
lol.. i m one of the noobs who realized
 
I still can't work out what it is
The only dots I have for the last 24 hours
 
DON
Hi guys
how to apply html5 require validator inside form:select
Help plz
 
o.O
 
DON
<form:select path="item_category_id" required>
 
9:46 AM
form:select?
 
DON
<form:select path="item_category_id" required>
 
O.o
 
DON
</form:select>
 
And the interweb is down agayn
 
what in godsname is <form:select>?
 
9:47 AM
is that a new markup language
 
@mikedidthis My idea is that those dotted lines are the last two times that you've tabbed away from the chat and then returned after new messages were shown
 
@Neil that could be it
@StephanMuller no idea.
 
DON
Its an MVC controll for iterating serverside data inside dropdown menu
 
and what does it render client side?
 
DON
Yeah
 
9:49 AM
o.O
 
DON
List of subcategories
 
is that spring or what?
 
is that all it renders 'yeah'
 
please give sufficient information about your problem, we are not mind readers
 
9:50 AM
@NoDownvotesPlz yeah
 
DON
<form:select path="item_category_id" id="selectError" data-rel="chosen" required>
<form:option value="0" label="--select--" />
<c:forEach items="${categoryList}" var="category">
<form:option value="${category.item_category_id}"><c:out value="${category.item_category_name}"/> </form:option>
</c:forEach>
</form:select>
 
@DON inspect your browser and see what html is generated.. paste it here
 
c l i e n t s i d e
 
DON
Ok
 
9:51 AM
@StephanMuller +1
 
the interwebz are back!!!
 
\o/
@Herr_Schwabullek @NoDownvotesPlz nice to meet you both btw! :P
@Sippy fuck off! :P
 
@mikedidthis i ve been here for more than a month.. and now u notice!!
 
@NoDownvotesPlz sorry :|
 
well i am an invisible noob
 
9:53 AM
Aren't we all?
 
DON
@NoDownvotesPlz generated html
<select id="selectError" name="item_category_id">
<option selected="selected" value="0">--select--</option>
<option value="263">Accomodation/Site office </option>
<option value="261">Civil Work </option>
</select>
 
@mikedidthis frontpageExp isnt
 
i am the chat overlord
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@DON.. did you try putting required=required
@FrontpageExpert i meant ur not noob.. chat overlord is too much
 
tbh its a fitting title. Back when I was a kid, he kept the room alive.
 
9:57 AM
how many of us know others in the room personally
i mean have met atleast once
 
@NoDownvotesPlz kneel at my royal magnificence plebeian
@mikedidthis we both did
 
fricking pinging the room to keep it alive :D
 
but you are just 4 months long here on SO
 
different account
 
which one
 
10:00 AM
@NoDownvotesPlz first time i got banned for broadcasting a sex scandal video involving @rlemon and @Kitler
5
 
well when i was a kid.. SO wasnt even developed
@FrontpageExpert sexual.. isnt that natural?? what to do with the guy who posted ISIS question yesterday!!
I m tired of my username now
 
@mikedidthis thats funny
i would like to join his team :P
 
@mikedidthis awesome job :D
 
Should we under cut him and do it for £40? :D
 
10:07 AM
i would do it for free just buy me a drink
 
@mikedidthis WELL.
 
@Sippy <3
 
when i click on this "starred show 8 more"
there is no scroll
and i cant see all 8 starred
 
Cos chat is fucked.
 
i guess i need to inspect in chrome
 
10:14 AM
@Sippy technical explanations ftw.
 
@mikedidthis It's one of the technical terms I use with my clients.
 
hello
ihow to get selected row index in table?
 
I was asked to optimize a site and I see now that much of the styles is imported from site.leadpages.net. How does this work?
 
@mikedidthis I wanted to register theuserishigh.com but it's already out there
maybe I should do theuserisdriving.com and see how fast it gets controversial
2
ok who just hijacked that domain :/
 
@mikedidthis delighted to hear that
*to read
 
10:43 AM
what the...
My code answer to a SO question "how to activate animation after some time":
setTimeout(function() {
    // your animation
}, 2000);
OK, I'm adding it after my current code, without changing anything. It's just not clear to me what exactly I should replace "your animation" with. — Bossa Nova 1 min ago
how....
 
wouldn't .delay() be a better suggestion?
Also, you linked to w3schools o.O
 
I actually googled for like 5 minutes trying to find a better link that explains the function
it was the best/only proper one there was :/
and no I don't think delay would be better here
anyway point is... how was... my comment not clear
 
anybody?
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Q: How to put tool tip on the left when using <md-sidenav> using material?

SajeetharanI am using side navigation in my angular application, i am using buttons inside the side navigation with a tool tip on it. But it displays in bottom of the icon, i need it on the left side. I dont see any css attached to it. Here is the code and plnkr: <md-sidenav layout="column" class="md-side...

 
I imagine as the OP code starts with a click event handler, OP is confused. The animation comes after the event handler.
 
@mikedidthis I think he just copied the code from somewhere without understanding what it does
 
10:51 AM
^
 
@DarkAshelin .delay() works fine: jsbin.com/kohuhoyuha/1/edit
I'm doing this: setTimeout(function() { animate({ paddingLeft: '0'}) }, 2000); but it's not working. — Bossa Nova 1 min ago
 
@mikedidthis no u misunderstood his question
he doesn't want a delay on click
he wants the menu to pop up automatically (without click event) after a period of time
> I want the menu to slide out after some seconds, if visitor doesn't click anywhere.
 
ew
 
ahh I voted to close anyway :D
 
material experts ?
 
10:58 AM
I don't think we have anyone using material
 
is not it popualar?
 

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