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Anyone around? I have a question...
 
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05:08
anyone interested in a new tiny CSS library? http://minfwk.com (it's 245 bytes!)

[note: I started it]
 
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07:45
@Xarcell what's up?
peace be upon you
And to you too.
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08:24
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funny trivia: the vulcanian salute was proposed to be included in unicode's symbols charts. LOL
How do you know these things.
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recently i found myself interested in standard icons, as you know... and i've read that thing
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but it was not accepted since it isn't in unicode... probably was made just for fun :P
Ahh yes, I forgot about your unicode venture last week. I have been to sleep :)
08:34
i want to make a style for scrollbar of the page
::-webkit-scrollbar{
width:5px;
}

::-webkit-scrollbar-thumb {
background:rgba(0, 0, 0, .4);
-webkit-border-radius: 10px;
border-radius: 10px;
}
::-webkit-scrollbar-track{
background:none;
}
but i does't work in android webview
I am not sure about ::
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A: JavaFX 2 WebView: How to enhance the scrollbars

michael_sMy solution uses CSS to change the webkit scrollbar. See CSS Tricks for an introduction. There are some points to be considered: First: When using position: absolute; the scrolling in javascript - like window.scrollTo will not work any more. Second: The background-color attribute for the scrol...

In that case, I am not sure.
09:25
morning
nom-ring
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morning
12:54
Would be awesome if there were some way to redirect dead rooms to active rooms
(I'm assuming this was started by PHP regulars, judging from the list of owners)
There was not an HTML room as far as I know, and the CSS room has been brain dead for months
Also, hi
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yes indeed, started by Wes
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hey. yes it would be a great idea
who quickly added a few of us mainly regulars from PHP
and... sounds strange there wasn't a html room before
Nifty
Yeah I suppose DOM questions were in the JS room though
@BoltClock thinking of sticking around? hanging here with us?
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13:03
not an automatic redirect... a message like "this room is not active since (date). try these out instead (rooms with similar tags here)"
@kaᵠ Possibly. I don't hang on chat much
hmm.. then we better flag stuff when we wanna ping you :P
css is too specific, css+html makes much more sense
That is true
saw you're gold on html* and css*
this is a good fit :)
(I did not start the CSS room, actually some of the JS guys did I believe)
lol I only have a puny bronze on
But top and is Good Enough For Me™
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13:07
btw js room is different, many discussion are about server sided javascript for example
huh... just saw the & webdesign at the end :)
your doing @Wes ?
kinda what this room is for...
lol I hate "webdesign" spelled as a single word
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room topic changed to HTML / CSS / DOM & web design: ▇▇▇ DON'T ASK TO ASK, JUST ASK ▇▇▇ Support room for newest web technologies (HTML, CSS, DOM) and related ones [css] [css3] [dom] [html] [html5] [microdata] [responsive-design]
@kaᵠ Ooh, thanks
13:10
hehe
we didn't have a mod owner here :P php has recently acquired one
Ahem, yes
was there a RegEx room before? have any knowledge on that?
:9631889 lol
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they killed chrome
looool
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13:16
blink sucks
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memory leaks a go-go
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i don't think things will change in 3 weeks
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:( sounds incredible but i think we are going to use msie10 (at least on windows)
WHAAT??
FWIW, IE10 is my secondary browser for most things
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13:19
usually canary works like a charm even if it's not stable
No, Chrome sucks. It can't even do CSS2.1 properly
damn
i'm on linux, what happens with linux users?
@BoltClock FF is your primary one?
@kaᵠ Yep
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now, it's two weeks that is working really bad, and nothing seems that changes between each update
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chrome has many rendering bugs, but at least doesn't hangs as firefox does, every single moment
13:22
that is veiry true
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msie 10 rendering runs smooth... but the actual browser isn't as good as chrome and firefox
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that's quite strange... opera for example is always nearly the top... but many annoying behaviors of the browser i think determined its unsuccess
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and the same thing may happen with msie
13:41
Didn't you have the same problem?
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surely my document didn't look like that

<link type="text/css" href="icons/icomoon19936\icomoon19936\style.css" rel="stylesheet">
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="en" xml:lang="en">
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icons/icomoon19936\icomoon19936\style.css
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LOL
well that was the error message page which is all messed up, had OP post the actual head section
OP says it works in Chrome but not Firefox
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btw i don't know. i've resolved setting the header to the .css file
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13:47
because i was using AddType application/x-httpd-php .css
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he should examine response headers for both .css file and how fonts are served
14:05
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A: Tag merge request: [ie-developer-tools], [ie8-developer-tools], [ie9-developer-tools]

BoltClock's a UnicornThey're all synonyms of another, new tag now. I call it f12-developer-tools. (Somebody ought to fill in a proper tag wiki — it was non-existent for all but ie9-developer-tools and the one on that tag wasn't great.)

Should I change f12- to ie- ?
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@crypticツ Wes ty!, make an answer so i can tick it. Don't understand why i was downvoted :/ – KHAN 3 mins ago
too localized?
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it's incredible that he tried to config apache, and he didn't notice the \ problem
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@crypticツ guess yes
Isn't he under Windows? I thought Windows treated them both the same, don't remember haven't used Windows for ages.
14:14
Not in a URL
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:-O i know something that @crypticツ doesn't know? mapping URLs to local files it's not a OS' task. Apache does that, using the only proper way, with / instead of both \ /
What happens when you run the file itself without a webserver? The OS handles the mapping then right?
What do you mean?
14:29
good morning...
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@crypticツ even if the OS could do the trick, i think the webserver already have %5C instead of \
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but idk... actually this is interesting
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14:42
@crypticツ i mean that the browser already encodes \ to %5C (what firefox probably does) or it converts it to / (what chrome probably does)
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so you're probably right, the \ / thing may work also on web, but browsers handle the character differently
yay for inconstancies! =oD
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firefox surely does the correct thing here... but chrome's behavior is more handy for common users
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i confirm what i said, chrome converts \ to / before the request. firefox instead encodes it to %5C
Another reason for me to hate Chrome? Fantastic, thanks @Wes
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14:48
:( chrome is cool
@Wes Chromium!
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yeah
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@BoltClock do you use windows, right?
I use Windows
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i don't understand how people can still use firefox on windows... unless you have a "hyper super mainframe enterprise millions core tons of ram computer" it runs extremely slow, hangs, freezes, crashes frequently. it's not extensions' fault, it's not flash player's fault, it's just firefox, that sucks...
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15:00
i'm not a chrome fanboy and i don't like to do crusades against anyone, especially open source.... i used to be a firefox fanboy instead... but i had to admit firefox's decline and i accepted it, years ago.
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but it is still incredible how fast firefox did turn from "hero to zero"
I dunno, it hasn't been such a huge memory/performance hog for me for a while. The only thing that really grinds my gears now is its rapid release cycle which Mozilla copied from Google
That's just my experience though
@Wes I agree, but I have so many useful extensions which only work under Firefox so I'm kinda stuck with it for the time being. Also Firefox constantly crashes for me on Linux too, if it wasn't for the session restore feature I'd go crazy.
Maybe I'm using Firefox wrongly
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i think the chrome-like release style contributed to turning firefox into shit , because the last good firefox i remember was firefox 3.5
15:05
@BoltClock yeah that does suck, more for regular users since they may not know how to override compatibility checking so all their extensions end up getting disabled since not compatible when in fact they may very well be, just the dev has not been fast enough to release update bumping vers reqs.
I wonder if Firefox will go the way of Thunderbird, being dropped and handed over to the community to be maintained instead. I mean there will become a point where they just can't keep up anymore especially with Google involved. I mean Chrome has surpassed Firefox in usage.
crazy tattoo...
@Xarcell does not validate!
lol!
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by the way... this may change things internetnews.com/blog/skerner/…
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electrolysis was first announced about in 2008.. i mean... 5 years
15:13
FF crashes everytime I use it, if I have all my Adobe applications open.
maybe that would fix it.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a FF tablet...
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@Xarcell no it's just the acrobat reader plugin that should be banned out of existence
@Wes people still use browser plugins? (i mean other than Flash)
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adobe CS installs it automatically and sets it as default pdf viewer as plugin in firefox
@Wes damn Adobe CS, you heard about them moving it all to cloud? CS6 will be last non-cloud version. Suppose to help stop piracy, and also they will charge a monthly subscription...
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i like that. Because i strongly think that corel's products are better... if adobe will lose users, corel may raise again
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15:24
i use both corel paint shop pro and adobe photoshop very well. the decline of corel is undeserved, because paint shop pro costs 1/10 of photoshop and it does the same things, often better
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but on the other hands, if corel couldn't raise again, it may make paint shop pro open source... which would be an awesome thing
@Wes corel.com/corel/pages/index.jsp?pgid=14900014 you may be right, looks like Corel knows people are leaving
@Wes I didn't know PSP was owned by Corel. I use to use it all the time. I loved, a lot easier to use and faster, smaller size, and yeah cheaper too
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paint shop pro was originally Jasc... i use it since version 4
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@crypticツ i still use jasc paint shop pro 7.04 anniversary edition
I remember making my first animated GIFs using Jasc Animation Shop
15:27
@BoltClock aaah me too!
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loading time = 1s
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photoshop = 2'
@Wes but their splash screen is so much prettier =oP isn't it worth it? lol
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i use it as image viewer and as primary image editor... for web image editing it's more than sufficient
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15:39
isn't this '90 style brilliant? i love it O_O
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:P
The first version I used was 6.02 last version I used was 8.0 I did like the simple layout, I could never find anything in PS
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8 & 9 were good enough, but not as stable as 7.04 was... 8 introduced the liquify feature and layer groups, reasons of why i use newer PSPs, because sadly psp 8 & 9 don't work well on windows 7 :(
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7.04 is still instead a solid rock, even on win7
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15:56
@crypticツ i'm writing a post on corel's blog... could you please correct my english before? i want to be convincing and my english will not help xD
@Wes your English is better than most native English speakers., but yeah I'll look over it.
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LOL that was funny. It is not, i usually don't care that much about my lack, but this time i really want to be convincing :P very thank you
aaaah I hate it when people flag youtube videos as adult because it has an image of a woman in a bikini, wtf is with people being so prude these days.
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lol, as you know many cultures don't even allow to watch a woman's face
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btw link of bikini video. NOW.
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16:11
O_O
Can I stretch a CSS sprite? Say a 16x16 sprite and stretch it to a 32x32 div?
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owned :(
I haven't done a rick roll in years, thanks @Wes =oP
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:(((((((((
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16:18
that's the sexiest ginger on the planet. look at his sunglasses, man
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in your opinion is that sexier than rick? xDxDxD lol
I havent come across many good looking redhead guys.
@Bert background-size should do it depending on browser support needed
lolol my last post in the old CSS room was "262d ago"
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@crypticツ you didn't respond to my question. which is better? rick or the ginger hulk? LOL
16:28
@Wes rick =o(
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ha-ha. you like rick!
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:P
16:51
can I get an opinion on my portfolio/blog/service site?
it's still a work in progress, needs alot of code/file cleanup, but just wanted to know what you guys think of it so far?
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go with it @Xarcell
www.xarpixels.com
it's powered by Blogger, so I have limited abilities on what I can do with it.
it's my blog, design, photography, and hosting all in one. I got tired of maintaining them separately...
I do alot of work for my local community.
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i'm going to check it... i did already some days ago... let's see if something has changed :P
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Xarcell firstly you should remove the audio :P because i had an heart attack with that xfiles-ish sound
17:00
lol
I like the audio
trying to decide if I want to add a song to each page, but you have to click to play
it's a little headphone image that goes beside the nav to the far left.
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you could do a one page site, it's a common trend these days
Yeah, Mike mentioned that. However, how would i fit my blog, design portfolio, photography, portfolio, and hosting services into it in a decent way?
I am considering merging my homepage/about/contact though.
@Wes "Paint Shop Pro and Photoshop very well and" what do you mean by very well? Like 'often'?
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that "i use them very good"
doesn't make sense =o\
17:06
I really don't like my design page though. I kinda wanted each page to be slightly different layout.
how about 'without any difficulty'?
it's difficult being creative at times when your trying to fit everything in responsive design.
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mmh no, i was just trying to put beforehand that i'm a "professional user" of both programs and not just a "casual user"
then say it like that "I use it professionally"
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ok, i trust your opinion :P correct what do you believe needs to be corrected
17:12
do you think the splash on it is an overkill?
it should be taking up the whole viewport
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@Xarcell yes... i don't actually like that because at first look i didn't understand that the actual page was under it
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you should add an arrow as you did with the boxes
it's a common trend nowadays, but usually only effects the homepage...
ok, I'll think of something. Some kind of indication that there are pages underneath...
do you think it's a nice portfolio site?
/blog
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colors are awesome and i would add the same orange pattern also to the boxes underneath it
@Wes "my dear Adobe, it is just crap. " are you speaking to Corel or Adobe in the post?
17:19
what boxes underneath? the quote boxes on the homepage?
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@Xarcell yes
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i'm speaking to the blog readers, but there i was speaking to adobe only
dunno about that...
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also better to remove the "crap" part, isn't it? @crypticツ xD
I think that whole sentence should be removed
17:20
I wonder if there is a way, to make it so that when a user clicks a menu item, it loads the page and jumps down to the menu, so that they don't have to scroll past the header on each page load?
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@crypticツ ok
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@Xarcell you can do that using anchors #fragment with some javascript help
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@crypticツ btw that was important, because adobe users thinks that PS' liquify is awesome... and they don't even know how awesome is the PSP's one
@Wes but you already say so "PS' one is not even close to it."
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ok. do you think it's enough? :P i want to emphasis it
17:28
@mikedidthis if you don't autocomplete my nickname (use tab after @ka) i won't be notified, you mean my bounty?
@Wes "usage is more handy than PS'" when you mean 'handy' you mean useful, easier, ?
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easier
@Wes well the anchor would be "main-nav", but I don't understand how I would excute it after page load.
@Wes pastebin.com/fBgruzjh best I could do =o)
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@crypticツ thank you miss :P you are too kind... i owe you a favor :P
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17:49
@Xarcell how about this jsfiddle.net/7KVzm ?
I could try it...
although, I think I'd rather it be in jQuery.
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yes, as you prefer
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@crypticツ my comment is awaiting moderation. i bet i will not be published LOL
@Wes censorship!
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that's a nice video showing up differences between PSP and PS youtube.com/watch?v=qb_hqexKkw8
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18:00
I took the blog archive & labels(tags) and managed to get them to show on my blog page. So that eliminates the need for the blog archive page.
@Wes Do you think my about page is too much info?
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@Xarcell no it's fine
Do you think I should put a link to it in the main menu?
or replace the homepage with it?
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you could mix them, yes
oh snap, his gangnam style meets metal isn't half bad...
skrillex meets metal was terrible
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18:05
@crypticツ you will never admit that you've been rickrolled, right? xD
@Wes lol, I never clicked link. Just now got back to chat. You should have pinged me.
#fail =oP @Wes
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19:26
@kaᵠ yes, that bounty. :)
19:55
@mikedidthis well... he had put a lot of effort in it

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