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A: Introduce a new post-owner-only flag that combines "no longer needed" with a notification of the commenter of an update to the post

MisterMiyagiI don't see a point in this. If I want to be informed about changes of a post, I follow it. If I don't want to be informed, then I don't follow it. It's really not a feature that is super advanced or hard or difficult to remember. The button is readily visible and actually very close to the comme...

Pings in comments are a valuable tool. As any tool, it can be abused. The premise of the suggestion pertains to appropriate pings, as described. I'm personally open to letting others raise this flag too.
Nothing would change with respect to nuking comments - moderators would have to agree. If abuse is really a concern, the notification part could be tied to moderator approval too.
@MisterMiyagi, the proposal isn't automatically better, it is better for the reasons stated (now updated to address the 'Follow' fallacy).
@MisterMiyagi: Stating that something is a particular, named fallacy is an argument - a shorthand for a common logical error. If you disagree that it applies, argue why it doesn't. No one is disregarding people and their agency here; I haven't "dismissed" your points, I've argued against them. Such perceptions are your choice, and I urge you to stop writing comments fueled by them. The only productive forward that doesn't cause bad vibes is to either engage the arguments, or - if you believe that you've made your points but aren't being heard - to stop commenting.
My (accidental) bad: I thought you were talking about the named fallacy I referenced in a comment on Karl's answer and the ones mentioned in this previous post. In the case at hand, "'Follow' fallacy" was shorthand too: for the arguments in the updated initial post, which my comment explicitly mentioned, arguing that and why the 'Follow' feature isn't relevant to this proposal, which you're still free to engage with. Disagreement and arguments aren't dismissal - conflating them is a recipe for misery.
With my mistake regarding what I thought you were referring to corrected, I am now taking my own advice (again): I've made my points. I feel I have't been heard. I am opting out of this conversation.
@MisterMiyagi, the following - belated - epiphany prompts me to come out of retirement, so to speak: even if you don't personally agree with or appreciate this assessment, perhaps future readers will: The entirety of your interaction with me on this post, culminating in your last comment, strikes me - in effect, if not necessarily in intent - as the perfect embodiment of sea-lioning.
"sea-lioning" is a term that radical progressives made up to justify spurious and vexatious claims of Internet harassment, after Malki hypocritically and self-servingly decided that his comic meant the opposite of the obvious reading (which would be better suited to serve the ends of an honest "social justice" movement - you can see this easily by substituting any group with a legitimate social justice grievance for the metaphorical "sea lions" in the comic).
(The fact that Wikipedia has a page for the concept that speaks of it uncritically and brings up years-old culture war nonsense, is a fantastic illustration of Wikipedia's political bias.) I consider the unironic use of this term to be inherently offensive.
@KarlKnechtel, on (another) meta note: I hadn't previously followed this post (I do now), so I only accidentally came upon your comments here. Out of curiosity: Did you assume that I was following and therefore didn't @-mention me? Or did you simply forget? Was there an implicit assumption that I would be notified?
@KarlKnechtel, since fallacies seem to be a recurring theme: what you're saying about sea-lioning exemplifies the fallacy of poisoning the well. If, by contrast, you have arguments about how the described behavioral pattern - whatever name you give it - doesn't apply here, pleas let us know.
@mklement0 I don't think there is such a behavioral pattern here because I frankly have no idea what you're talking about. However, my objection to the term is in itself and has nothing to do with your reaction to MisterMiyagi.
@KarlKnechtel, if you have no idea what I'm talking about, it makes your claim that there is n such behavioral pattern here a non sequitur. Your objection to the term (name) is immaterial (except if you wanted to mention it as an aside, but then it needs to be framed as such).
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No, you have misunderstood in a way that suggests a lack of intent to engage in good faith. I "have no idea what you're talking about" in the colloquial sense that I see no evidence for such a pattern and I cannot infer what evidence you have in mind. I did not claim that there is no such pattern here; you are the one making a positive claim, and the burden of proof lies with you. My objection to the term was indeed not a direct response; you do not have authority to tell me how I "need" to "frame" anything.
@KarlKnechtel, at last we have found common ground: lack of good faith.
@KarlKnechtel, and since certain comments are at risk of disappearing, let me elaborate: Turning an argument as to what is essential vs. what is incidental to the issue at hand into a power play ("you do not have authority to tell me") is ipso facto evidence of a discussion conducted in bad faith.
Pardon; a power play? You are the one who said "but then it needs to be framed as such", as if you were claiming authority.
also, we are not supposed to have arguments here in the first place, we are supposed to have discussions, even on Meta.

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