@AdrianMole I am happy with all honest feedback, positive or negative. The main thing in the beta test is to see how close we are with the workflow, if there are any big things we missed. We are not 100% feature complete yet (not to the level we will get to by the MVP) - but we have everything done related to the operations of the core workflow, reviews, listings, etc
But there are always things we miss - sometimes little things that make a huge difference.
We do not expect the beta test to be at all relevant in answering the question of "will this work at scale" - that is going to be for the MVP and following test rounds.
If you go into the beta, see any sort of thing that isn't working for you, big or small, micro or macro, we want to hear it. Likewise, happy to also hear things that are working for you.
I would caution though, that if you come in with a preconceived notion that it will fail, and you only see items confirming this for you, that your bias may be affecting your perceptions in a major way. And if your main feedback after the beta is "this isn't going to scale, I told you", the beta isn't for testing scale and volume, it is for testing workflow.
@YaakovEllis I can lend a hand for the beta testing, although I don't do many first post reviews. Perhaps you can consider me as a seat filler if you don't get enough other qualified testers
@YaakovEllis I'm interested in testing out Staging Ground. Even though I don't do many first post reviews on Stack Overflow, I have review experience on other SE sites and would be really glad to help.
I've also had experience testing Documentation Beta previously and invested substantial time to provide feedback, including helping out with the removal of links across SO following the sunsetting of Docs.
Can anyone who wants to be a reviewer opt-in during the “initial testing period”? Or is the “initial testing period” only open to those invited?
Is there anywhere for one to register their interest to participate in the initial testing?
I was looking at the first questions queue history which can give you an idea of how long it takes for an average review. I'm honestly surprised at how fast people can go.
@IanCampbell No, I don't robo-review but I skip a lot. Lately, I've been using C and C++ tag filter, which makes things a bit quicker. Some Qs are easy and quick; others take more time.
But, I have to say it - FQ reviewing can be both tiring and disheartening. With no filter, I was giving negative reviews on the (vast?) majority of posts. Not because I wanted to, though. It gives one a real feel for just how many poor questions get posted every day. I really hope the S/G can do something to address this.
When I was doing 80 reviews/day, I probably spent over an hour each day in the queue.
@WhatsThePoint fair enough, it at least has some hella funny submissions:) Although speaking as an active reviewer of SEs, it ain't peaches and roses either most of the time.
Welcome to the site of broken tools, abandoned components, and an editor that adds tons of editor work that they're not fixing in spite of numerous bug reports
@ZoestandswithUkraine we want to get a certain number of users who are committing to giving feedback (and then you get a badge). But all mods will get access, even if they dont sign up.
@AdrianMole we have a ton of filter options now (in fact, one worry is that the number of filter options, and the whole listing versus "just show me one item" will be too overwhelming for reviewers)
@AdrianMole I didnt change anything. Do I need to do something to turn on beeps?
@JonClements In general, folks who want in on the beta and had previous suspensions will be ok to go in if they are active reviewers. Folks who have current or super recent suspensions wont. If there are any folks who applied that you have reservations about, feel free to ping me in the blue room
@AdrianMole If you happen to click the tab while sound is playing, you can mute it without noticing. Most browsers also have keybinds for it that it's perfectly possible to fatfinger
@IanCampbell no mod is compelled to participate. They are given access as a courtesy, and so that they can handle flags if they so choose. They dont have to give feedback if they dont want to. If any mods do not want to get access, ping me in the blue room and I'll add an exception for them.
here you go, courtesy of double-beep :) They fixed it up a while ago
granted, there might be more subtle issues at play that kept that report from being worked on, but fixing it would really help with both moderator workload and reviewer experience. And likely let a user or two less grumpy :)
@YaakovEllis Oh, I see. The backroom message was specifically about the badge. I (mis)interpreted it as we'd get access to the system (ref. the announcement) but not the team
@ZoestandswithUkraine nope, only about the badge. All mods will have access, with no commitment to use or give feedback required.
@OlegValteriswithUkraine we had a dev spend a few days on it a year and a half ago, FWIW. It wasn't ignored. Just turned into a time sync that we had to move off of. I am going to see if the user script can help us out (sometimes things that are done in user scripts cant just be lifted into site scripts as easily as we would like), so no promises.
@YaakovEllis I understand, not saying there was any intent to purposefully ignore it. But since it seems like it has fallen through the cracks since, heck, it was worth a shot poking ya'll with a sharp stick (works like a charm :)). The userscript might not be the exact solution given that it's context is different than that of the codebase, but I hope it can at least point you in the right direction
@YaakovEllis the good part is that it's back on your radar - it's a pretty big issue for the queue. Not many people know about userscripts, so it ended up producing a steady stream of edits that actually fix nothing about the post
I know, I'm probably not best suited for this based on my review contributions to first questions and first answers queues, but I reviewed a lot in the other queues, so I don't expect to be on top of the list, but if there are enough open positions left it might be enough