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00:12
Where do you stand, generally, on a question that people are interested in but was closed for a somewhat unclear reason. Examples:
@ClayNichols We're waiting
Darn enter key: Examples: stackoverflow.com/questions/15136020/… (closed as non constructive). How is learning a software language not constructive? Or do they think that there aren't many VB programmers learning javascript?
<g>. I was trying to find a better (less selfish) example: I've seen Q's with over 100 or 100 up votes that were closed.
But let's stick with the example I gave. It had an answer. I wanted an answer. I suspect a FEW VB programmers want to learn js. What's wrong with the question?
I would say it's not constructive because a Google search for "<what you're trying to do> JavaScript tutorial" will turn up hundreds of results.
@clay also, it is asking basically for a 'list' of answers, none of who h are better than the rest.
@ClayNichols It's basically an open-ended list question.
There's no single "correct" answer.
List questions are generally discouraged/not-suitable across the entire network.
Although over at Anime.SE, we did try to tackle the problem and allow some forms of "list" questions: meta.anime.stackexchange.com/questions/348/…
00:22
Why is a question that has more than one answer a problem?
@ClayNichols Because you can only Accept one answer.
There are some really useful answers in questions that are seeking a list like "best resources for XYZ".
@ClayNichols There are a few problems with this types of questions
There are lots of questions with more than one correct answer, and many where the BEST answer isn't even the one that was selected as "the answer". Should all of those questions be closed too?
The first is that there's no single correct answer. The resources change often, and need to be constantly updated. The answers are subjective, which makes it difficult to vote for. If the list gets too long, new answers get buried and will never see the light of day.
@ClayNichols In those cases the we can still see which is the "best" answer based on the community's votes
In list questions, it's hard to tell if something's highly upvoted because it's popular, well known, or actually good
00:25
So, is the idea that StackOverflow has a different philosopy than the other Stack Exchange sites in this regard? (the idea that on SO "end the end there can be only one" (serious question, joking reference)
@ClayNichols SO is definitely a LOT more strict than the other sites. Not by choice.
@ClayNichols No, most sites try to limit these type of questions, but SO is stricter
@ClayNichols careful about associating questions that can have more than one correct answer (where multiple answers provide different solutions to the same problem) and questions that have no "correct" answers (because there's no problem to be solved)
Mainly because it sees a lot more questions
@shog What's the difference, practically, between the two?
(seems like they'd BOTH suffer from all of the same problems: lots of answers, not sure of people are voting for an answer because it's the best correct answer or just from a popular person.
@Mystical what did you mean "not by choice" ?
whose choice?
00:28
@ClayNichols If you looked at the top questions list on SO prior to March deletion-audit, there were maybe like 2 or 3 actual technical questions in the top 50.
Basically there were so many of these open-ended things, that you couldn't find any "real" questions.
@ClayNichols Well, with objective, technical questions, you can take (for example) the code in the answer and try it out yourself. If it works, the answer is good. If it doesn't, it's not.
OK, I can agree to disagree (and I'm asking far more than I'm answering so it's unfair for me to tell the moderators how to do a job I'm not doing).
@Yi
@YiJiang, how does that solve the problems that mentioned (which are largely a problem of too many answers, not too many unverifiable answers).
@ClayNichols Well, if you have a technical problem that can be approached from a dozen angles, then perhaps the problem is scoped too broadly
@ClayNichols Because most (reasonably scoped) technical questions don't have 50 answers.
@ClayNichols Practically? If you have a real problem to solve, multiple answers that solve it provide you with a way to gauge the quality of each. If you don't, you're left to just vote for whatever sounds good... Or downvote stuff you personally disagree with regardless of its merit.
00:34
Thanks everyone, this was my first time on chat. This was very useful for appreciating how SO's culture works and in adjusting how/what questions I ask.
@ClayNichols No worries. You're not the first to not understand. It seems that the majority of users outside of SO don't understand either.
I'm always interested in asking "what's the best X ". What's a better place to ask that sort of question in terms of programming? /. maybe? (I don't visit there much)
@ClayNichols Yeah, those would be instantly closed as NC.
Chat is better place, provided you don't get trolled.
@Mysticial , sadly, as you can see by my badges, I've been using SO since it was in beta <g>
Not stack overflow for sure. I would consider a didferent type of site, Maybe there's a reddit group you could use....
00:35
@ClayNichols woah...
long timer :)
I consider myself relatively new here.
Yes, but you seem experienced as you are so... Mystical in your ways
eh? Sonny? I couldn't hear ya'. :)
00:37
@RichardJ.RossIII Yeah, and almost each and every single SO thread on Reddit reeks of SO moderator hate...
Sorry, I had ro
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@Mysticial The question was about a place to ask for the best X, not a good place to discuss SO objectively.
@Wooble I know, but I was just pointing that out.
@Wooble I think we're pretty much in agreement of that
00:38
It might be useful to show them some stats, maybe even a short explanation you can include in links to Closed questions. How many questions total /day, etc.
Ok, time for dinner...must ...eat....blood sugar crashing.... THANKS again everyone!
my vote whoring on r/appengine didn't get flooded with mod bashing, although that's probably because no one reads that subreddit :)
Well, the latest thread I saw on proggit about SO being better than official documentation was full of praise for SO
He had a bad experience from a few years back where a few guys from our C++ room ganged up on him.
Looking a bit deeper into it, he made some not-so-nice comments on his question which probably provoked it in the first place.
It's still mixed, and some threads are hateful, but I know I've seen positive comments overall in several Reddit threads over the last year, which is more than I remember ever seeing before that.
00:53
Basically, whenever something is closed or locked, there will be a lot of hate.
The technical ones are the ones that stay relatively clean.
01:06
Damnit, I just realised what I should have included in my application instead of just my forum giving me patience: I can endure my wife screaming at me for 45 minutes straight! :p
01:21
Not too late to edit? :)
@Wooble Yeah, but I'd have to make it fit. My current post is exactly the character limit in length. Ah well, I'll save it for next year XD
02:01
@UTC 02:00
1. Andrew Barber [3152] (21774 rep, 9257 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [2344] (28739 rep, 7390 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1917] (57911 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. animuson [1639] (14877 rep, 1572 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [1589] (110867 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. ChrisF [1480] (60819 rep, 434 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [1254] (7005 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [1211] (26212 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [1177] (55422 rep, 1202 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [1058] (18413 rep, 1358 helpful flags)
Oh, I'm actually catching up with 18th place now XD I've been stuck at 30 behind for the past... well, almost since the voting began. Now I'm just 20 behind. Yay!
 
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03:26
@LordTorgamus indeed
@UTC 03:30
1. Andrew Barber [3174] (21774 rep, 9257 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [2371] (28739 rep, 7390 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1929] (57911 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. animuson [1654] (14877 rep, 1573 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [1604] (110867 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. ChrisF [1489] (60819 rep, 434 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [1267] (7005 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [1213] (26212 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [1187] (55422 rep, 1213 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [1066] (18413 rep, 1358 helpful flags)
Trend after one day and change. I took the log of the vote counts and cut off the bottom of the graph to make things easier to see. There does seem to have been a bit of a "time zone bump" a few hours into voting.
indeed, but now it should be more or less static wrt places
Yep, that still holds.
03:41
nice to see it on a chart, ty
it'll be nice to see after the town hall chat as well
Yeah, that's what I'm waiting for at this point.
plus I didn't come last - that's a bonus ;)
03:58
So, do you all think it's possible for me to do the mod chat tomorrow via the mobile site?
@AndrewBarber never tried it on a mobile :)
@andrew im on my phone now, and its hard to Reply to comments while in the landscape view
I suppose you could make an app to do that better,
But idk if I could have it done in time
The menu button is really awkward as well
The enter button doesn't send messages
So my answer is no, probably not
Hmm... well, I just don't want to miss it entirely..
what device would you be using?
04:05
it seems okay on my S3 - can't say it's great, but okay
let me try chat - one sec
need to logout here first
Is it possible to reply to a post via the mobile chat?
K @jon
@andrew you should get a buzz from this
n/m, I'm on the fullsite shucks
need to change the settings
Yeah, be careful about that. The mobile site is easy to spot cuz it's fugly!
04:12
@richard the at replies work, but I don't think there's a way to reply to posts. :(
@AndrewBarber you can always reply after the town hall chat event it over
In my case, I won't be able to reply for atleast 14-16 hours after the town hall chat scheduled timings
the THC is at 02:30 local time for me
@sathy yes/ might have to do that.
Let's all save our answers in Notepad then send them all to Tim Stone afterwards to make his work more difficult. :P
@animuson sounds fun!
 
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05:35
I'm not sure why, but the logarithmic graph doesn't seem to convey much for me. I'd rather a linear graph, then one with the first derivative to see change with respect to time.
My preference, though. So far the top ten seem pretty well-cemented in
 
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06:47
i don't know from where to start, and how to poll my vote for whome. So please any one elaborate on the process
What do you want to know?
At this stage you can simply read the intro posted by each candidate and either up or down vote them (like you would a question on SO). You don't have to vote for anyone if you don't want to.
thats great and appreciable, thank you
After a few more days the top ten candidates go on to the actual voting, at this point you will get three votes to cast for your preferred candidates.
So at the moment it's simply a primary phase where the contenders are sorted out from the also-rans.
@slugster you are really great explanatory person, i like your job, keep you passion up. i am a great lover and user of this forum.
@PirFahimShah Glad to help :)
07:02
wish you best of luck ;-)
07:46
@UTC 7:45
1. Andrew Barber [3244] (21793 rep, 9257 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [2434] (28739 rep, 7390 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1976] (57911 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. animuson [1707] (14895 rep, 1573 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [1656] (110887 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. ChrisF [1527] (60819 rep, 434 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [1295] (7015 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [1239] (26212 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [1220] (55472 rep, 1213 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [1110] (18423 rep, 1358 helpful flags)
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08:07
@UTC 8:07
1. Andrew Barber [3244]                  ( 21k rep and  9257 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [2434]                          ( 28k rep and  7390 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1976]                       ( 57k rep and  3171 helpful flags)
4. animuson [1707]                       ( 14k rep and  1573 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [1656]                         (110k rep and   562 helpful flags)
6. ChrisF [1527]                         ( 60k rep and   434 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [1295]                  (  7k rep and   573 helpful flags)
Updated to align rep and helpful flags into columns, and display rep as _k, because those extra digits were annoying me. (If you don't use fixed-width, this is collapsed into odd spacing).
You forgot to align the vote counts. :x
I'm undecided on whether to do so.
Let's see how it looks.
  1.        Andrew Barber [ 3244] ( 21k rep and  9257 helpful flags)
  2.                Flexo [ 2434] ( 28k rep and  7390 helpful flags)
  3.             minitech [ 1976] ( 57k rep and  3171 helpful flags)
  4.             animuson [ 1707] ( 14k rep and  1573 helpful flags)
  5.               Gordon [ 1656] (110k rep and   562 helpful flags)
  6.               ChrisF [ 1527] ( 60k rep and   434 helpful flags)
  7.        Lord Torgamus [ 1295] (  7k rep and   573 helpful flags)
  8.                  JNK [ 1239] ( 26k rep and   324 helpful flags)
I liked the previous one better...
The right aligned names just look... weird?
  1. Andrew Barber        [ 3265] ( 21k rep and  9257 helpful flags)
  2. Flexo                [ 2449] ( 28k rep and  7390 helpful flags)
  3. minitech             [ 1985] ( 57k rep and  3171 helpful flags)
  4. animuson             [ 1715] ( 14k rep and  1573 helpful flags)
  5. Gordon               [ 1665] (110k rep and   562 helpful flags)
  6. ChrisF               [ 1537] ( 60k rep and   434 helpful flags)
  7. Lord Torgamus        [ 1306] (  7k rep and   573 helpful flags)
  8. JNK                  [ 1249] ( 26k rep and   324 helpful flags)
Yep, looks good (to me)
(others may disagree)
(but they shouldn't, my OCD is better than your OCD)
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08:24
I think I agree. The right-aligned names was because I couldn't decide whether to tear them away from the scores or the rankings, but this does look better.
Hope this doesn't bother with Pop's graphing too much.
@JeremyBanksᐛ Maybe replace the 'and' with an ampersand, and 'helpful flags' with a &#9872; or &#9873;
wow those html codes showed up really well... not.
I've replaced the "and" with a ", ", as I had it before.
Hmm, what are those characters...
they are flags, they didn't show properly though
never mind, trying to be too clever
"Helpful flags" does feel a bit long, but I couldn't think of an alternative.
back soon... off to watch some Big Bang Theory
08:36
Enjoy.
 
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10:18
I want this post . if you like me,then add
10:43
@RameshRams wut?
10:59
@Bhuro and @Kevin
Yes sir
 
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12:44
Hi there
How are you ?
SF.
SF.
13:19
Hello. Just dropping in to draw interest to my proposal - Moderators.SE - current and future moderators, (of SE and others, ops, helpdesk people, community relationships pros etc) might be interested in: area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/52070/moderators
It's been suggested before and not got anywhere.
Though I think it would be useful.
The elections to be a moderator of that site sound fun.
SF.
SF.
@Wooble: Cream of the cream.
@ChrisF: Some details? I'd like to learn from errors of predecessors.
Sounds Not Constructive.
SF.
SF.
As I look at the "market" of Web2.0, building and maintaining the community is roughly half the work, the other half being building and maintaining the system. I think that's an enormous potential considering a serious percentage of the SE network is dedicated to that "second part" - SO. Serverfault, Webapps, Webmasters...
13:28
@SF. SE decided that the existing channels (MSO and chat) were sufficient.
SF.
SF.
@Wooble: Sociology sounds "not constructive", yet it's a science. It's real people dealing with real, serious problems, aided by limited technological measures and their own expertize in dealing with people. There are very few "algorithmic solutions", but that doesn't mean the site can't be helpful or provide meaningful answers.
@ChrisF: Yes, for moderators of SO. I don't think a chan op of IRC coming asking how to get a user from spamming the channel while joining under different IP would be welcome on Meta.SO or get an answer on its chat. This is not intended to be a site for "Moderators of StackExchange", but moderators of all kinds of community sites.
@SF. That might stand a chance then. The original proposal (which appears to have been deleted) was an SE moderators site.
Since when does the system even let someone suggest an edit that adds a single colon to the question title? :/
13:44
The minimum change count doesn't apply to titles. Just reject it as too minor.
Already did. And it has an approve vote, which I only saw since I needed to go back and see if the audits were getting more ridiculous or that was an actual edit.
@Wooble What's the link. I'll add my rejection too.
Don't forget some people will approve anything just to get the badges
You get the same badge if you reject.
And don't get banned for failing audits :)
13:47
@Wooble Yeah, but people don't think that way. The other queues don't always have a "do nothing" option (which reject is) that increases your review count. This means people are trained to hit "This is OK" in order to get the increment.
@Wooble those are horrible approvals
14:00
@Sathya Hi man. Saw all the election nominees' profiles. You are the unsung hero with total of 103 k reputations (4th overall) and moderator of 2 other SEs but still standing in 12th place currently in the election.
SF.
SF.
Bye all for now.
@Freakyuser well I don't have much rep on Stack Overflow :)
cough
@Sathya In the last SO election 3 people got elected and 1 of them was near 9 k reputation with lesser badges than you.
@Sathya You have got many badges than others.
@ChrisF :-D
14:08
I was beginning to think no one saw me here :)
@ChrisF would think otherwise, the prelim. voting says it all :)
How many are going to get elected?
@Sathya I mean in this room.
@Freakyuser 4
@Freakyuser honestly I don't think badges are a great indication of Mod capabilities (barring few of them, which are fairly easy to game & get anyway)
14:10
From this phase of the election I meant
@ChrisF indeed. @Freakyuser top 10 move to next phase.
@Freakyuser the top 10 move to the election
Anyway all of you hope for the best. You all are definitely deserved candidates.
Hope that best 3 are chosen for the post!
14:29
@an5607ky ?
Wow. This wasn't an audit. A genuine user intentionally tried to kill the post. With two approve votes too.
@RaghavSood That happens actually quite a bit.
And the sad thing is many people approve those changes
Yeah I've seen a lot of terrible edits, but few so blatant as this
Earlier today a user told me off for approving a perfectly valid edit that corrected spelling and fixed a list that was incorrectly formatted as code.
@RaghavSood That is unfortunate that you ran into a user who reacted like that.
His rationale was that because the question needed to be closed, its terrible grammar and formatting should be left as is.
14:41
@RaghavSood that is some bad rationale.
Do you have the link to the edit?
Yeah I thought so to. User didn't agree with me.
Yeah. This one
The review audits seem to sort-of support that "don't edit crap" philosophy. If you go to edit a terrible post, you fail the audit. Personally I like editing terrible posts to be easier to understand; if nothing else it makes it easier for others to understand why to vote to close it.
@JeremyBanksᐛ You fail the audit if you click improve, as I found out the other day
@RaghavSood Yeah, I found that out a few weeks ago.
My problem with that kind of edit is it adds to the queue to fix something that will be removed anyway, and gives the suggester a rep bonus for an edit that doesn't make the question any more suitable for the site.
14:49
@Wooble uncheck 'suggested edit was helpful'.
@Wooble Not all closed questions are removed. If a question is really bad, I won't bother working on approving/rejecting edits on it. At best, I'll clean it up a bit myself, and wait for its deletion.
Handles the rep bonus, but not wasting someone's time approving (and, in this case, editing further to make it marginally better formatted).
Well, and wasting 3 people's review action, when they only get 20 a day.
15:07
@Makoto That's a good idea. Honestly, the reason I picked a log was because I already knew how to do it and I was late for another task. I'll take another look at it later.
15:43
 @UTC 15:42
 1. Andrew Barber        [ 3499] ( 21k rep, 9259 helpful flags)
 2. Flexo                [ 2668] ( 28k rep, 7390 helpful flags)
 3. minitech             [ 2148] ( 57k rep, 3195 helpful flags)
 4. animuson             [ 1859] ( 14k rep, 1573 helpful flags)
 5. Gordon               [ 1808] (110k rep,  563 helpful flags)
 6. ChrisF               [ 1651] ( 60k rep,  434 helpful flags)
 7. Lord Torgamus        [ 1425] (  7k rep,  573 helpful flags)
 8. JNK                  [ 1337] ( 26k rep,  325 helpful flags)
15:56
in Town Hall Chat, 38 secs ago, by Sathya
Right, the THC is scheduled for 02:30 my time, which makes it impossible for me to attend and answer the questions. I'll probably answer them once I'm done with work so that's like roughly 14 or so hours after the THC is originally scheduled for.
Thanks for the reminder - something's come up so I might be late for the chat myself.
16:26
I doubt the THC is going to influence any voting anyway; people's minds are made up at this point.
16:49
hello
who from England or ireland ?
 
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18:21
Yet another reason why i love SO !!!
Lix
Lix
@war - do share :)
Stuff like this Lix :) ... good luck on the voting ... i only popped in here because i was reading the candidate speech thread :)
Lix
Lix
Yea.. It's pretty amazing (the whole package). You should checkout Meta Stack Overflow some time too :P
and thank you!
whats that for?
Lix
Lix
It's a separate site for Q&A about the main site.
18:30
oh neat ... one thing i havent seen anywhere that would be cool is a way to "trade" architectural models
most people are working on ntier type applications these days but few get a good model working
stack is the perfect place for sharing that kind of thing
Lix
Lix
@war - I think that programmers.SE is the site for those higher level topics...
Stuff that you wouldn't necessarily need to code samples to talk about
hmmm neat ... stack got big when i was busy programming
seem to have a domain for everthing now !!!
Lix
Lix
bicycles, fitness, photography, linguistics, parenting... you name it, they got it! :P
the thing that i most love about SO ... it's written in C# from what i can tell :) ... looks like an MVC solution ... my ideal tech :)
seen a few articles about remote working from some of the stack dev team i found real interesting
That would explian the bugs. ducks
18:37
ouch wooble !!! im hurt u dont like MVC !!!
.net is definately the smartest framework out there (imo)
just feels clean and easy to get the job done
Lix
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@war - if you're interested, here is a more detailed list of tools/technologies used on the network.
hmmm ... how do you find this stuff so fast
Lix
Lix
I spend far too much time on meta ;)
I think most of us candidates do
It's like a itch that must be scratched
An itch* darned mobile site can't edit easily.
oh i hate that ... but scratching it feels so good lol
theres a mobile version of SO ?
18:43
Yeah
The site is mobile optimised
lol i never would have thought of that ... im always at a desktop pc when i get SO worthy questions
But you can't do review stuff easily on it, so I don't use it much
after all i dont write much code on my mobile
I usually just comment on mobile
fair enough
18:44
Making note of potential errors or improvements
@RichardJ.RossIII it's difficult on a mobile though. The interface isn't great mobile
It isn't, but you can at least add a comment
So there isn't too much to complain about
Over time it'll get betrer
@RichardJ.RossIII I'd need many a tube of cream to make that itch go away. ;P
as dev tools go though ... SO is still one of the best i have in my arsenal
I usually end up just loading the whole site on my phone, which... doesn't work well at all.
18:45
No thanks, I don't think I need a massage from animuson today..
@Wooble it depends on the device. My iphone 5 can handle it, it's just hard to tap everything cuz it's so far apart.
Good, because I don't give massages.
Aww man! No happy endings then ;(
Thank you for demonstrating why we don't need hormonal teenage mods. ick.
<--- feeling sick now
Or maybe ill give all the other candidates happy endings to drop out of the race...
@Wooble please, it's just a joke. It's not the worst I've seen
Anyone remember laughing at the GTA jokes a few days ago?
18:47
"Vote for Raghav or I'll break your legs" is, of course, much funnier.
Dont take the "politics" going on in here so seriously.
Showing that the candidates are normal people is a good thing
Yeah, real politicians do much worse than this...
The last thing we need is some stuck up holier-than-tho mod
I'm sure Joel agrees with that.
Normal people? Here?
18:49
Impossible, right?
Sexually harrass away. I'll keep quiet.
omg ... why did i start this conversation
A normal person doesn't spend their entire day connected to Meta. :P
True, but then again maybe you're not even a person...
Maybe you're one of skeets infamous bots
Or you're my concience!
@RichardJ.RossIII This is why we can't have nice things have to keep using captchas.
18:52
The whole captcha thing makes me laugh
I've never seen a true bot on SO that made it past 3 answers.
We do way too good of a job at patrolling the site.
A flag in the Android chat room? Oh my...
Ugh, mobile doesnt let you see flags
We get more flags in there for rejecting users than for actual offensive messages :P
Typical android, haha
I kid. Android is great for certain things
I just realized what that little blue circle meant. At first I thought someone was flagging my messages. I should visit the chat more often, I guess.
18:54
little blue circle ?
Probably. I kinda stopped after a week or so after it was introduced. Still visit occasionally
I think its only visible to 10K users
I always forget after a while because people rarely flag things on Meta. Then a blue circles pops up and I think "what does the blue circle mean again?"
I saw it earlier and thought "that's odd, where was I mentioned?"
lol ok ... 10k feels like a long way off for me ... i dont hang round for long on SO
@Wardy I guess it's one of the 10K moderation things. You're notified about flags in chat, too.
18:55
busy working usually
Green Circle = Pings. Blue Circle = Flags
neat that the site actively helps you guys mod though :)
Hey, don't be lamenting. Jobs can be hard to find these days
you unemployed?
No, not exactly
18:56
I had tyhat conversation with my team the other day
when i got my job
Im 16. I work as a contractor for android an iphone apps
over 200 CV's went past my line managers desk
about 20 of those were any good (from what i'm told)
@RichardJ.RossIII How's the work as freelance? So far I haven't done any, but I might someday.
I'll be working at the Election Commission for 3 months printing and packaging ballots! Sounds fun, ya?
It's okay. I have a few customers who are coming back time and time again, as well as some work for non-profits
18:58
i considered that but thought i'd wait until i had 10+ years experience so i had a proven track i could "sell"
coming up on that 10 years now ... but not really thinking about it yet
I think I'm gonna go shoot some flying rats for a couple hours.
Well, hurry back for the town hall chat :)
flying rats ?
random
You learn not to ask on the Internet, @Wardy
Apparently that's what they call pigeons in New York or wherever GTA4 is based off of.
18:59
lol i dont get in here much
probably safer that way
I hear it can lead to brain damage. No confirmed reports though :)
no1 was functional enough to be able to post on here
bit of a bug in the whole concept of stack that
not sure how ive done it but i have a 3ghz quad core server running on just 20 watts of power
its at 50% load atm
out of curiosity what does being a mod grant you above your rediculously high rep scores?
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Q: Who are the diamond moderators, and what is their role?

Brad MaceSome people have a diamond after their username (ex: Jeff Atwood♦) What special privileges do diamond moderators have? How can I become a diamond moderator? Who are the diamond moderators? How many are there? Return to FAQ index

ok i should have known better than to actually ask a question ... would make sense to just search lol
thx anna
@AnnaLear They can't merge accounts anymore, right? I thought I saw that somewhere.
19:12
@animuson oh yeah, that's right.
interesting reading
20:08
@UTC 20:07
  1. Andrew Barber        [ 3612] ( 21k rep, 9260 helpful flags)
  2. Flexo                [ 2776] ( 28k rep, 7390 helpful flags)
  3. minitech             [ 2231] ( 57k rep, 3201 helpful flags)
  4. animuson             [ 1931] ( 14k rep, 1573 helpful flags)
  5. Gordon               [ 1870] (110k rep,  563 helpful flags)
  6. ChrisF               [ 1691] ( 60k rep,  434 helpful flags)
  7. Lord Torgamus        [ 1479] (  7k rep,  573 helpful flags)
  8. JNK                  [ 1385] ( 26k rep,  325 helpful flags)
OHMYGAWD I finally caught up with 18th place!
And I've almost quadrupled my helpful flag count since the election began XD
@GraceNote w00t!
Lix
Lix
20:28
wait wait wait.. I gotta finnish listening to the podcast first ;)
Hey folks. Just popping in to say I can't be here for the chat. On the road today and the mobile web chat won't cut it for this!
@AndrewBarber No worries. Drop by later to answer questions when you get the chance.
@AndrewBarber Drive safe!
Thanks; I will!
@AndrewBarber: Yeah, we wouldn't want anything to "happen" to you now, would we? ;)
20:36
Do I answer here and/or reply to the transcript post on Meta?
@animuson hmm... I need secret service protection?
@AndrewBarber Notepad!
But I think you just go to the Town Hall Chat and use the little arrow to reply to the messages. I may be wrong. Ask @TimStone
@animuson edit (from DOS)
@AndrewBarber You should just reply to the questions in the chat room itself, yeah.
I don't wanna ask @timstone. He's one of those mean mods! Oh, wait...
Then I'll copy everything over for you.
20:39
@timstone Cool!
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Q: Does anyone else think the moderator nominations are TLDR?

Jared BeckThis is my first question on meta, sorry if it's in the wrong place/format. I took a look at the moderator nominations and I just don't have time to read them all. Therefore, I can't cast a fair vote. I'd like to participate, but it would take too long. Maybe there could be a character limit ...

Re that meta post: I am cool. I am *the best. Vote for me. I am Andrew Barber, and I approve this message.
Don't vote for me. Everyone else isn't. — amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A 48 secs ago
:-P
@AndrewBarber is clearly afraid that in a high=pressure chat he'll reveal his secret plans to completely undermine the site!
@wooble not undermine; take over!
20:50
Radical haircut policies, I tell ya!
My secret plan is to replace all spam posts with my own affiliate spam links.
Nobody is recording this yet, right? ;-)
@animuson mullets for everyone!
21:29
@AndrewBarber you are missing the fun!
Why gordon has less votes? :-/
21:51
@AndrewBarber voting shows -93 negative votes. All the other candidates have a greater than zero negative vote count. Can someone explain that to me?
Also I want to comment that I'm very pleased that @Kevin has an awful (-)/(+) ratio. Unicorns can't be more irrelevant to this election; so there.
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