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00:09
Question: How to vote in the primary? Is there any voting link?
00:29
@Ganesh You should see a voting score with the usual up and down arrows, like with the Questions. Just click them.
@UTC 00:31
1. Andrew Barber [1069] (21721 rep, 9174 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [757] (28683 rep, 7378 helpful flags)
3. minitech [680] (57767 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. ChrisF [623] (60744 rep, 430 helpful flags)
5. animuson [534] (14859 rep, 1565 helpful flags)
6. Gordon [522] (110717 rep, 562 helpful flags)
7. JNK [477] (26203 rep, 324 helpful flags)
8. Lord Torgamus [468] (6975 rep, 573 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [454] (55012 rep, 1135 helpful flags)
10. Madara Uchiha [310] (38833 rep, 292 helpful flags)
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anyone got a link to the bookmarklet to sort primary candidates by score?
01:07
@Kolink Thank you.. I have cast my votes now :)
01:23
@JeremyBanksᐛ I think your Election counting script just broke because of a withdrawal.
@RaghavSood Ack.
@RaghavSood Thanks for pointing it out. Fixed version here: gist.github.com/jeremybanks/2913432/raw/soElectionGraphs.js. (And this time I'm giving a URL I can update, unlike the previous one.)
Ooh it works. I was trying to fix it myself :P Been too long since I worked with JavaScript though. Managed to fix the type error by throwing another type error :/
Thanks :)
"Height of Nomination Post" is a hilarious matrix
ChrisF has 666 net votes
01:40
@RaghavSood Evil!!! Maybe I should remove my vote for him until he gets more? ;-)
Tis okay. He's gone upto 668 now :P
In the meantime, I have a nice 2^8 net score :D
01:58
@UTC 01:57
1. Andrew Barber [1192] (21722 rep, 9183 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [829] (28683 rep, 7378 helpful flags)
3. minitech [736] (57801 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. ChrisF [671] (60754 rep, 430 helpful flags)
5. animuson [589] (14869 rep, 1565 helpful flags)
6. Gordon [573] (110727 rep, 562 helpful flags)
7. JNK [524] (26203 rep, 324 helpful flags)
8. Lord Torgamus [513] (6975 rep, 573 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [491] (55012 rep, 1135 helpful flags)
10. Madara Uchiha [336] (38838 rep, 292 helpful flags)
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02:48
how to I use the above scripts that the guys are posting to see an ordered list of candidates? do I need any specific html? How do I see the output of the script?
03:14
@ShawndeWet copy paste this into Chrome developer console ( hit Ctrl + Shift + J ) on the elections page
@UTC 03:15
1. Andrew Barber [1274] (21722 rep, 9199 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [894] (28683 rep, 7378 helpful flags)
3. minitech [781] (57801 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. ChrisF [699] (60754 rep, 430 helpful flags)
5. animuson [626] (14869 rep, 1565 helpful flags)
6. Gordon [620] (110727 rep, 562 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [557] (6975 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [556] (26203 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [523] (55012 rep, 1142 helpful flags)
10. Madara Uchiha [361] (38838 rep, 292 helpful flags)
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Thanks @Sathya
@Sajith sup
@ShawndeWet welcome
How many votes can we cast? How many candidates will go through to the election phase?
03:19
@ShawndeWet top 10 candidates go through the election phase, you up/downvote any candidate
03:32
Hi All! I receive a Caucus Badge and can join this room. But I don't know why am I here?
@Sang perhaps you followed the link on election page?
It's mean someone elect me or elected automatically by stack?
@Sathya
@Sang I don't follow you.
@Sathya I just curious, maybe I don't understand so much. OK, I read more. Bye.
@Sang This room is just for discussing the election; the link to it was on the election page, and you apparently clicked it. You can vote, but you can't run.
03:51
@Sathya all the best i voted for you buddy
@Sathya How can I vote for the election?
@Sathya How can I vote for the election?
@Sathya How can I vote for the election?
04:07
@gk1017 you pinged me ?
@NareshSharma S ,,
@gk1017 okay any thing to discuss
How can I vote for the election? @NareshSharma
How does this work?
@Vamsi "this" which 1 you are mentioning ?
04:11
on SO Home Page see this --- Community Bulletin
event2013 Community Moderator Election – ends in 8 days
@gk1017
@Villan @gk1017 @Vamsi goto the election page & click on up/down votes on the candidates. Top 10 candidates move to final election.
@Sathya okies thx fyi :)
@sathya my vote is for u :)
@UTC 04:16
1. Andrew Barber [1359] (21722 rep, 9200 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [959] (28683 rep, 7378 helpful flags)
3. minitech [828] (57801 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. ChrisF [736] (60754 rep, 430 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [677] (110727 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. animuson [667] (14869 rep, 1566 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [598] (6975 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [585] (26203 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [559] (55012 rep, 1142 helpful flags)
10. Madara Uchiha [385] (38838 rep, 292 helpful flags)
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Are we able to openly talk about the candidates here or do we have to be as politically correct as possible and use euphemisms and avoid blunt fingerpointing ^.^
04:21
@l46kok you can be as open as you want - just don't (too) personal
@vandu thanks
You mean I can point fingers, call names and throw tantrums without any strings attached right? K thx.
lol im jk
No calling anyone a dirty, good-for-nothing unicorn-eater... unless... no, don't do that.
04:36
@Sathya thanks for keeping the data fresh. Not sure if you read the transcript, but I'm maintaining a spreadsheet.
@LordTorgamus I did read, which is why I decided to keep it updated :)
I just finished setting it up to display a pretty graph in Excel, but there's probably a better way. Suggestions for a, I dunno, web app of some kind, would be welcome.
Yay Excel!
When I worked at the grocery store, my cashiers always teased me because I put literally everything for the frontend into spreadsheets and made graphs. I know they loved them though. :)
@LordTorgamus Google Docs? wonder if you can set it up to refresh the data automatically
Google Docs would be useful to see the data in nice, pretty colors though.
04:48
Preliminary findings:
hmmm.. thats a long gap..
It's so big you could see it without blowing up the picture....yeah...
DON
DON
hi
While people do swap places somewhat frequently, the relative positions of the candidates tends to remain unchanged. Of course, that's just the first eight hours of a single election.
Hi all
04:57
Hi there :)
@LordTorgamus: You're right, it's early but overall the positions are fairly static.
who get maximum vote in primary phase election now ?
Andrew leads as of now. (scroll back a bit to see the results)
@Sathya Hi I have voted for you, All the best
@RaghavSood I have voted for you...All the best
05:36
Hi @Sathya thanks for stackoverflow.com/election link and yes I have voted for you ....Best Of Luck
05:46
@UTC 05:46
1. Andrew Barber [1537] (21722 rep, 9200 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [1083] (28693 rep, 7378 helpful flags)
3. minitech [937] (57826 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. ChrisF [787] (60769 rep, 430 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [753] (110747 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. animuson [739] (14869 rep, 1566 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [648] (6975 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [636] (26203 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [608] (55012 rep, 1142 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [427] (18143 rep, 1322 helpful flags)
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@Pragnani @mits thanks
Well, I suppose its going better than I expected, haha. Maybe next year ill have more impressive flag performance, eh?
06:06
hi buddy
who r the nominees ?
How many moderators will be selected in this election?
hi @Sathya...how to vote for them?
please xplain me ......clearly
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Q: There's an election going on. What's happening and how does it work?

ben is uǝq backwardsThe community bulletin says that there is a moderator election occurring. How does the election work and how can I get involved? Return to FAQ index

@Sathya Is it possible to vote for more than one candidate?
06:16
@arulmr yes, you get to select a first, second & third choice during the election stage. During the primary stage you can vote on whoever you want * top 10 move to next stage
I'm a first time voter here, so excuse me if this sounds dumb - Does upvoting a candidate count as a vote or is there anything else that needs to be done?
@asprin Upvoting is enough.
@asprin upvoting counts as a vote in primaries. In the election stage you get to select 3 candidates as you first, second & third choice.
Thanks. I just went though the link Sathya posted above
06:40
@UTC 6:40
1. Andrew Barber [1660] (21722 rep, 9200 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [1171] (28693 rep, 7378 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1004] (57826 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. ChrisF [844] (60769 rep, 430 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [803] (110747 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. animuson [792] (14879 rep, 1566 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [691] (6975 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [677] (26203 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [647] (55012 rep, 1142 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [498] (18143 rep, 1322 helpful flags)
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06:54
I've been 19th since, like, the beginning XD In relative terms I'm catching up, but I'm still ~30 votes away from 18th place (and currently about 300 votes away from making it to the next round)
07:13
thank u @Sathya........
07:44
@Wooble, @JNK, are either of you there?
Or @LordTorgamus
No?
:(
How many votes can a person gives???
@AdvaitAmin One vote per candidate. You either upvote them if you like them, downvote them if you don't, or leave them alone if you're on the fence.
@Kolink, so if all are good so we can give upvote to all also.........
@AdvaitAmin You could, although that wouldn't really help anyone :p Ideally you should upvote around a third of candidates, downvote another third, and leave the last third alone.
@Kolink you are php developer??? right?
07:59
@AdvaitAmin Yes, I am.
@Kolink your answers are really helpful.............
@AdvaitAmin I try ;) I believe in helping others out so that when I need help I have karma on my side. Although lately it hasn't worked too well XD
@Kolink +1 from me.........
@AdvaitAmin Thank you kindly (#[=^_^=]#)
@Kolink Best Of Luck!!!
08:09
@UTC 08:08
1. Andrew Barber [1888] (21722 rep, 9205 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [1334] (28693 rep, 7378 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1151] (57826 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. ChrisF [931] (60769 rep, 430 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [899] (110747 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. animuson [890] (14879 rep, 1567 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [759] (6975 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [743] (26203 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [721] (55012 rep, 1143 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [586] (18143 rep, 1323 helpful flags)
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08:21
Nooooo, wooble :(
08:51
Who was it that wanted to clean up the homework tag?
09:06
@Bernie I have a go at that now and then - but I think the tag's got a while to go yet before it's vanquished ;)
SF.
SF.
Just in time for the election, I'd like to advertize a proposal of a new SE site: Moderators.SE, a Q&A site for moderators, community builders and others in "user relationships" occupation. area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/52070/moderators
If somebody reads my message, I with say only that the new moderators should cope better with problems as I had : I asked a general question (how to sort 2 lines file using sed) , and gave an example. A guy came and brought a sed script that sorted only that example. I insisted that this is not the good script, and he continued.
Because he insisted and insisted, I gave him negative vote for his post. Another guy came and sad that I was out of mind to give a neg vote to somebody who tries to help. After that, I received for that post many negatives votes in a few minutes.
I had to wait 1 week until an administrator removed completely my post
I wish that the new administrators deal better with such problems that made lot of tension
09:36
@alinsoar use the flag option. Don't expect Mods to read each & every post.
@UTC 9:42
1. Andrew Barber [2135] (21732 rep, 9208 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [1534] (28712 rep, 7379 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1323] (57836 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. Gordon [1048] (110767 rep, 562 helpful flags)
5. animuson [1043] (14877 rep, 1567 helpful flags)
6. ChrisF [1040] (60779 rep, 430 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [851] (6975 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [833] (26213 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [823] (55012 rep, 1143 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [684] (18143 rep, 1323 helpful flags)
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10:27
@alinsoar As @Sathya said, flag the comment for mod attention. Also remember that you have the right to down vote without having to justify it.
Hello Everyone here....
Howdy
Actually i read the introductory posts of 27 candidates who placed their nominations for Moderator Election....
That's a lot of reading :)
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı That's very dedicated of you ;)
10:31
When i went through the comments for "Bhuro" candidate nomination, that candidate had enough reputation to cast the vote but
i found that he waS lack of positive attitude(i came to conclusion based on the comments)
and i downvted his nomination. In just a few seconds my questions and answers got downvoted
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı Use your judgement. Sometimes you'll have to take into account things like English might not be his first language.
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı Probably unrelated. Votes are anonymous (unless you tell someone yourself)
i dont know who did that.... but you can check my profile
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı Your up/downvotes are anonymous - if you got down votes it was probably coincidence
Is that Anonymous????
10:35
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı That's right - nobody knows how you voted.
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı yes, it's not visible to anyone.
but can i know who downvoted my posts????
because see there is 75 reputation downvoted....
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı Nope. Their votes are anonymous too. But if its serial down/up voting, the system will pick it up and reverse it
10:36
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı there are automated scripts that run to detect things like systemic down votes from one user, in case someone is being nasty. If the script detects them it reverses them.
can i know the time span for serial up/downvoting which is in script?
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı 75 rep is a lot of down votes - do you have a link to any affected posts? You could also post a question on meta if you are concerned
someone really doesn't like you
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı the scripts run every night
10:39
see the screenshot attched by sathya.... I got donvoted only when i downvoted the nomination of Bhuro.....
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı Ouch! The script will pick that up, they should be reversed by the next day (in UTC time)
i am very confident on this
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı Unless you mentioned it somewhere then nobody knows how you voted
thats ok.... but this is not fair i think
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı Did you announce you were down-voting it?
10:40
As noted by @slugster - the mass voting script will pick that back up and reverse the downvotes...
But certainly isn't a nice way to start the day :(
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı that's just a coincidence - unless you mentioned in a room you downvoted x
@ChrisF y should i do that?
i didnt
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı I'm not saying you should, just that there's no way of someone knowing you down-voted their nomination unless you announced it.
@Sathya That's what my profile on some days look like. The difference is that I'm the downvoter in those cases ;)
10:48
@PeeHaa well as long as you're not targetting any one.
Neh just the daily crap
@PeeHaa is it mainly all in the one tag? or do you spread the love around?
@slugster I do spread my love around, but mostly in the horror that is called
@PeeHaa It's an easy language to get into and an easy language to abuse :)
Greetings all, just thought I would pop in to wish all the nominees the best of luck.
10:53
@slugster Yeah. It's mostly people who read somewhere they can do shit using echo 'do shit'; and think I CAN HAZ PROGRAMMING
@webnoob Cheers :)
And also who needs a f*#cking google or manual when you have a thing called SO the google results fecther
Well, I use Google to search SO. SO's search leaves a lot to be desired.
@PeeHaa Too many people willing to answer anything in search of the elusive rep. Unfortunately it feeds upon itself unless someone is willing to be ruthless with the voting and deleting.
@slugster For newer users I think meh. But when I see a 20k+ user answer obviously dupe / offtopic questions I cry a little
11:01
@PeeHaa I'll still occassionally answer something I know is a dupe, but then I'll also try and search out the dupe and close it. OffTopic should never be answered though.
@PeeHaa Doesn't matter if the person answwering has 20K+ - you can still down vote or comment and cast a close vote :)
@Bernie Hmm?
11:18
can someone post the leaderboard script, please
(Haven't tried it, annoying to install on Chrome)
heya @Wooble
I think it's time to beg Guido for an endorsement.
@slugster The issue I have with it is that it somewhat gives OP the okay to ask offtopic question / don't search on the site / don't look in the manual.
It's not even just the OP. It's the next person who comes to the site with a lazy question and sees that all of the other lazy questions are there; it's the "broken windows" theory.
11:29
It is really irritating when you see a high rep user answer an off topic/not constructive question. They should know better.
Unfortunately there's not a lot you can do. People want to help (otherwise they wouldn't be on the site).
11:50
Is anybody else just a little annoyed that the majority of people up for election have asked next practically 0 questions?
No :)
@dsummersl Why would we?
This is purely subjective, but I find that it's the answerers who in general make better community members. You can probably point out specific people who contradict this, but I think answerers are investing more in the community so they're more likely to want to run for mod.
shrug I guess its just me. I mean I understand that perhaps a 'successful' moderator would be good at answering questions. But personally I find it a little suspicious when someone has answered in the triple digits, and has asked < 5 questions total. It suggests a certain...lack of humility.
11:54
@dsummersl I couldn't disagree with you more tbh
Does anyon know the site where CIL(Intermediate Language) instructions are listed along with their respective meanings(What they do)
To be clear all the individuals up for election have very high question/answer ratio; I'm not throwing all the individuals in the election under the bus.
@dsummersl THROW ALL THE MODS UNDER THE BUS!
@dsummersl Did you also consider that high-reputation users might be better at finding already-existing answers on the site, and so need to ask much less often? I think it's quite a bit unfair to say people who don't ask many questions lack humility.
9 times out of 10, when I have a question I come to Stack Overflow to get help for, I find an answer with a quick search. 90% of the rest of the time, I find the answer in the 'related posts' while typing up my question. The remaining 1% of the time, I post my question.
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12:03
@AndrewBarber I agree. Also the kind of questions I have are more "shopping" or debate like questions. eg, opinions on movies; given I read these authors, can someone suggest an author I might be interested in; given the choice of these three sets of earphones, what's everyone's experienced for reliability and sound quality... etc...
That is a good point; I find that to be true for myself as well. Its also true that by design a SO question has a 1:many relationship with answers.
That said, I really found it surprising that several of the individuals up for election had <10 questions. Thats not 1/10, thats on the order of 1/100.
@AndrewBarber why do you have near 4000 downvotes?
@TheBronx Because when I find content that deserves it, I down vote it. I also regularly go back through my recent down votes and retract ones that were placed on posts that were subsequently improved; I actually down vote much more than the 4000 number suggests.
@dsummersl: I've nearly never had a programming question I couldn't find an answer to already on the site. I only started my moderation activities when I realized that doing so if often a bit harder than it should be because of all of the duplicate questions and garbage you need to sift through.
I think that when you upvote a question/answer you already "downvote" the others in some way (if you upvote one, it means it is better and thus the others are worse). So upvoting helps the upvoted and also the others that can see what's the "path". It's just my opinion, I think upvotes are more important and should be used more than downvotes
12:19
To me, a downvote on a question saves the next person looking at the new questions page from wasting their time reading a question where the OP didn't make a tiny bit of effort.
@TheBronx I can respect that position, though I disagree. Also, I regularly scour queues and lists that can tend to have low-quality posts in them, so that skews me a bit toward down-votes, too.
@Wooble I'm just surprised anyone could be on the site 3 plus years, and have only discovered one question. Especially when you consider the (it feels to me like) many newish OS projects are starting to adopt SO as their Q/A resource of choice (ansible and meteorjs come to mind for me, anyway).
Having only recently discovered the responsibilities beyond asking and answering (ie, editing and flagging) I guess I'm biased to those abilities.
In spanish we have a proverv "se cazan mas moscas con miel que con vinagre english" that means something like "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar". I think it's true :)
I work for a library. I do research in primary sources before asking questions.
@TheBronx This supposes the site wants to attract flies.
@TheBronx Sometimes the goal isn't attracting flies, but shooing them away.
@Wooble hah! Beat me to it!
12:25
You attract more butterflies by pulling the weeds and letting the flowers flourish.
And unicorns.
haha it's just a proverv :P
I was just curious about that downvote rate of @AndrewBarber
Well - guys - it's a good proverb if you're a frog :)
Ha... like 2 or 3 nights ago I read my daughter a book about honey that had that proverb in the back, and I told her "actually, you catch more flies with frogs."
(Maybe it was propaganda from the bees)
@Wooble LOL - next alternative would be a venus fly trap I guess, but they take too much time about it
@JonClements They are the most interesting to watch catch flies, for sure!
12:32
I think I recall seeing once some kind of plant that entices small mammals into them - gives out pheromones or something that makes the poor thing suicidal and jump into it.... Then gets eaten over 2 weeks or something :(
I'm sure pheromones are considered "upvotes"
@JonClements Ooww.. not a pleasant way to go!
@TheBronx So, you would use upvotes to attract people to their doom? Actually, I think that does reflect how some use upvotes - to train people that posts are 'good' when they are not ;)
@AndrewBarber Phew! Thanks for bringing it back on topic :)
doom, SO, who cares...
its a joke hehe. Thanks for the answer @AndrewBarber you got my vote
@TheBronx Yes, my last message was largely a joke, too; though using it to make a small point. Thanks for your vote, though!!
12:37
@Jon you got some pheromones too :P
@TheBronx can't say I've ever had someone say that to me before ;) (thanks!?)
good luck, hope you catch/shoot/eat a lot of flies!
12:51
Well, I think I'm off to pretend I'm sleeping for a bit! ta ta for now, folks!
13:03
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Q: Primary Elections begun, and no notifications

Back in a FlashThough, there's an open discussion on Should the primary phase of the election be eliminated?; I'd still like to know why was there no notification on the starting/commencement of elections for Primary phase of elections? There are many users who still aren't much used to the working of StackExc...

JNK
JNK
I'm here now if someone needed me
@Sathya hows going election ?
13:22
Man, some of these review audits make me wonder if the correct response is rejecting the edit or arranging an intervention for the fake edit suggester's alcoholism.
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@wooble u mean pwople dwink reee vooing? snow wayz... eed tother 'ab 4 dat oon hen :)
No, no, the drunk reviewers who click Approve on everything don't show up in audits.
I don't like anon. user suggestions :(
14:00
how i elect my candidate in primary phase?
i want to elect some person in primary phase how to do it?
please help me.
@SIVAKUMAR.J Just click on the elections link and you'll see the usual up/down buttons next to each candidate - and click on one of those
You're allowed to cast upvotes for any candidate you think are suitable, or downvote those you don't think are suitable
if click means then it shows "This election is currently in the primary phase. The election phase begins in 3 days " following message not list the candidate details
@SIVAKUMAR.J scroll down the page....
@SIVAKUMAR.J This still isn't the actual election phase. You vote on the candidates nomination like you would for a question or answer (except in this case the vote means "I think X will/will not make a good moderator"). It's the next phase that starts in 3 days where you can actually vote on the top 10 candidates
Are you on the right tab on the page? Should default to Primary, but who knows...
(That message will be shown on the Election tab)
14:05
Elections have up to three phases - nomination (no voting at all), primary (if there are more than 10 candidates) and finally election (with actual voting).
in primary what we do?
please explain me
JNK
JNK
@SIVAKUMAR.J It's pretty well explained on the page that you were referred to...
>In the primary phase, all nominees advance to preliminary community voting. Any community member with 150 reputation may vote in the primary.
There is no commenting in this phase, only one up or down vote per candidate. The candidate vote scores are all public. Initial voting should provide a rough sense of which candidates are most electable.
All candidates are displayed in random order.
The primary is not binding; nominees may withdraw at their discretion at any point during the nomination phase.
(see full text)
@SIVAKUMAR.J We're narrowing down the list of candidates so you only have 10 to choose your top 3 from in the final election.
JNK
JNK
That's in a nice little bar on the right
i cannot able to vote in primary why?
14:12
You are voting - to narrow down the candidates to the top 10
JNK
JNK
@SIVAKUMAR.J You have to be logged in to vote, with an account with 150 rep or more
I can see your account has enough rep to vote
@UTC 14:18
1. Andrew Barber [2628] (21731 rep, 9251 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [1890] (28728 rep, 7383 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1621] (57856 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. animuson [1322] (14877 rep, 1570 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [1310] (110796 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. ChrisF [1262] (60799 rep, 431 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [1024] (6985 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [992] (26213 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [976] (55067 rep, 1185 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [858] (18143 rep, 1358 helpful flags)
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Need to get on that making a viral campaign video plan. :)
JNK
JNK
@TheBronx This is absolutely incorrect. A user who sees other posts upvoted doesn't get the feedback that their answer is wrong or bad. They just think voters like the other posts more. A downvote says "This is incorrect/bad/dangerous/misleading/poorly written" unambiguously.
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14:28
@TheBronx: If I see an answer that's crap I downvote it (well, or delete it, but let's assume a non-diamond point of view here). That doesn't mean all other answers which I do not downvote are bad. But maybe they are just "ok" and thus I don't upvote them.
@ThiefMaster I go +1 for a good answer, don't vote for it probably works but not as good as others, -1 for misleading or completely wrong answers (if it's a field I understand), but do leave a comment first saying why it wouldn't work for the OP
 
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15:41
@Aʌɐpɥɐuı As a follow-up on this, the voting here had absolutely nothing to do with the election, but was in response to something else (it looks like a person got confused about an edit and took it out on you for some reason). I've warned the party responsible, and I'm sure the votes will be automatically nullified later today. If they aren't, flag us and we'll deal with it manually.
Kevin, why do you like unicorns so much?
@Victor'Chris'Cabral It's required of mods
@Kevin Does Twi count?
@Kevin, What is your stance on unicorns being incorporated into SO answers?
Will you be impartial in that matter? Can you be impartial?
@UTC 15:43
1. Andrew Barber [2718] (21743 rep, 9252 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [1946] (28728 rep, 7383 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1673] (57881 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. animuson [1379] (14877 rep, 1570 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [1365] (110797 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. ChrisF [1303] (60799 rep, 431 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [1056] (6995 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [1033] (26213 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [1008] (55122 rep, 1197 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [887] (18238 rep, 1358 helpful flags)
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15:46
@Kolink Sure
@Victor'Chris'Cabral Only when appropriate. Meta.SO answers, however, can always be improved by unicorns.
@Kevin Yay! Apparently she's the one I'm most like XD
@Kevin That's news to me
lol, I am still 19th.
I seem to have settled into 6th place.
@Kolink with a very respectable amount of votes
15:49
@JonClements Yes, I have to say I'm surprised but pleased to have received that many :)
It's good to see that Andrew is cementing his lead. Let's hope that these translate into real votes.
It would be shocking if Andrew isn't elected.
17 hours ago, by Brad Larson
@LordTorgamus While the odds are in his favor, this isn't necessarily a foregone conclusion. Two elections ago, I lead the primaries for a while, finished third, and then ended up well out of the final election at 7th. Surprised to see the number of votes in there so far without the 99 notification glitch from last time.
Sure, but that was posted like an hour into the election. He's got more than just a strong start.
I went for these elections because I believe I can make a difference, but I'm not ashamed to not be elected because of people better... so I've already picked my votes for the final phase :)
JNK
JNK
15:55
@Wooble Primary voting <> election voting
primary voting is "free"
you can vote for EVERYONE!
Election voting, you only get 3 votes and they are ranked
a lot more introspection is involved
Yes, but clearly a significant number of people are voting for Andrew and not for anyone else; presumably they will rank him 1st.
It's also possible (though I'm not saying it's true in this case) that a lot of primary votes translates to "a lot of people think I'm good but nobody thinks I'm great."
Who will promise to redistribute the top 1%'s reputation points back down to the bottom 99%?
A strong primary showing could also (yep, continuing with hypotheticals) backfire by making supporters think "oh, everyone else will make him 1st choice, so I can safely make him 3rd or not vote for him at all."
JNK
JNK
@Victor'Chris'Cabral I don't think we need a ton of drive-by help vampires with close priviledges
@LordTorgamus Yeah that's the other big diff - no pile on voting
b/c totals aren't visible
16:04
I'm running (as everyone else is) to make a difference
JNK
JNK
I'm running because I know how overworked the current mods are from talking to them about it
@JNK yup
Kevin, you have my support.
I'm running because every time I see 48K close votes in the queue and already used my 50 votes for the day, I die inside a little.
JNK
JNK
@Wooble Also a good reason :)
16:07
@Wooble: When you are a mod you'll hate the "close votes" flag queue soon :)
Well, there's no risk in that happening, but I already hate it. :)
@ThiefMaster "When you are a mod"? This thing's rigged!
Oh - don't get me started on close votes :(
everytime I look at that queue, it seems to get larger
then I have to use flags
Oh, I remember when it was 52k. Those were dark days. Dark days indeed.
I'm running because there's a ferocious bear behind me. HALP!
16:11
@UTC 16:11
1. Andrew Barber [2782] (21743 rep, 9252 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [1994] (28728 rep, 7383 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1701] (57881 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. animuson [1418] (14877 rep, 1570 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [1407] (110797 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. ChrisF [1326] (60799 rep, 431 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [1088] (6995 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [1061] (26213 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [1027] (55122 rep, 1197 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [908] (18238 rep, 1358 helpful flags)
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@Wooble 119K completed review tasks (questions) in that queue; 20K in just the last 30 days. 49K is nothing.
@JeremyBanksᐛ Updated to indicate more correctly if a candiate has withdrawn and sort them to the bottom of the list, instead of just displaying "??? helpful flags". $.getScript("https://raw.github.com/gist/2913432/soElectionGraphs.js")
@JeremyBanksᐛ Oh, nice, I didn't realize there had been a withdrawal. (I do remember hearing about it yesterday, but I kept seeing all names in the list, so I thought it was hypothetical.) Thanks for the updated script!
16:49
Guess it's quite settled then.
@RaghavSood nice comeback!
JNK
JNK
@MadaraUchiha That comeback seemed timezone related ;)
I have not yet begun to shamelessly campaign and have people in chat threaten to break legs.
@JNK Indeed. I knew there would be another wave when the Indian folks time to shine, but didn't imagine it to be that extreme
I mean really, that guy was like what, 16th? 15th?
JNK
JNK
@MadaraUchiha Yeah something like that. One thing about Indian developers - there's a LOT of them
@JNK True dat.
JNK
JNK
17:02
That could actually be said about Indian ____
@JNK Well... There's a lot of Indians, period.
JNK
JNK
whatever it is, there are a lot of them
voting based on country is really bad ... damn on those who do/doing/did according to it
than i wold just l while(true){ downvote(); }
17:24
@UTC 17:30
1. Andrew Barber [2867] (21743 rep, 9252 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [2070] (28728 rep, 7383 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1760] (57881 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. animuson [1466] (14877 rep, 1570 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [1441] (110797 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. ChrisF [1361] (60799 rep, 431 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [1130] (6995 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [1093] (26213 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [1066] (55122 rep, 1202 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [938] (18238 rep, 1358 helpful flags)
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It's useful how chat only displays the first 10 lines isn't it :)
hehe, indeed ;)
//
@ChrisF lol
@Sathya is it task to show update ?
right I'm off. ciao
@NullPointer how do you mean?
@NullPointer It's a script.
17:27
@LordTorgamus is collecting the status on a periodic basis, for science. Helping him out with @JeremyBanksᐛ's script
@Sathya you are only who updating voting result ... ahh ..... Sathya .. the Bot :P
6 hours ago, by Wooble
https://gist.github.com/jeremybanks/2913432/raw/soElectionGraphs.js
@ChrisF thankyou
 
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18:34
@MadaraUchiha Thank you :-) Sorry about bumping you off the top 10 list :P
Heh, it's quite alright.
I wasn't expecting much to begin with
Neither was I. The initial negative score was a little bit below what I was expecting though. I expected to cap out at about 500 net.
18:47
@UTC 18:46
1. Andrew Barber [2927] (21743 rep, 9252 helpful flags)
2. Flexo [2125] (28728 rep, 7388 helpful flags)
3. minitech [1797] (57881 rep, 3171 helpful flags)
4. animuson [1498] (14877 rep, 1570 helpful flags)
5. Gordon [1467] (110797 rep, 562 helpful flags)
6. ChrisF [1387] (60799 rep, 431 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [1151] (6995 rep, 573 helpful flags)
8. JNK [1120] (26213 rep, 324 helpful flags)
9. bluefeet [1090] (55122 rep, 1202 helpful flags)
10. Raghav Sood [970] (18238 rep, 1358 helpful flags)
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19:05
Do you guys think that having a 'real' avatar would get me better results in the election? I got one comment that said that, haha
If a significant number of people are voting based on avatar choice, we have real problems.
Counterexample: Flexo.
That's exactly what I thought, too. @LordTorgamus
Or maybe he'd be in first with a real picture. There's really no way to know.
Naw, barber was a sure-win when everybody saw his OVER 9000 flag count
19:10
He was also pretty eloquent in his piece explaining why he wanted to be a moderator.
@IronMan84 naw, man it's all about that e-peen. He who has more flags, is bigger :)
And speak of the devil ... err I mean god
@RichardJ.RossIII heck, I was wondering if a gravatar that said "Help I'm an idiot!" was helping ;)
19:32
@RichardJ.RossIII got my vote ;)
it's definitely great to see that young guys like you and minitech can be so helpful to community
@kape123 thanks. As moderator of the united... uhm site? Of stack overflow, I promise change! Change is the future! Change is good! 'murica!
haha
@RichardJ.RossIII Obviously users think your Gravatar looks too much like a swastika... ;P
Heh... I was actually thinking that process like this would allow for much better political system than what we currently have.
Meaning - all proposals that currently go through senate would go through site like StackOverflow - and than you as individual can either vote for it or against it. And if you are too busy or simply don't want to vote for every single proposal you can select your representative, kinda like we select moderators and he would vote for you.
first past the post is pretty much the worst possible voting system too.
The great thing would be that you can re-select your representative whenever you wish - instead of having somebody in office for 4 years because elections are so damn expensive
@Flexo well - I would just take that "nominate yourself" phase from moderators election - the idea is that you could select anybody as your representative. One great thing about StackOverflow is that you can see anybody's history - and probably people would select their representative based on how he votes.
19:44
I'd use a real avatar - i.e. not an identicon. Doesn't need to be your face though. At least I prefer seeing funny avatars over photos.
Especially for male users.
(j/k)
@ThiefMaster You mean that's not a real photo of you?
@ThiefMaster Why do you hate me :(
Would I do better with an avatar with more dinosaurs, or fewer dinosaurs? Or bigger dinosaurs?
Damn, you found my secret. Unfortunately I need to eliminate you now.
Cats! We need moar cats!
Eventually it will come out that I've killed way more unicorns in NetHack than all of the other candidates combined and all of my upvotes will disappear.
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