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Q: Is it possible to get graphs of the stats for moderator candidates?

sharp12345Considering that users will use the candidates past site activity as a way to judge them. What if a candidate was only active 2 years ago, but then his activity started to decline? What if he was only active few months before the election? What if his activity is only limited to couple of mont...

02:14
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Q: Moderator Bias in Elections

DavidWhy does the current moderator election system allow moderators an unfair power of saying no to any candidate: In the nomination phase, any community member in good standing with more than 3,000 reputation may nominate themselves to be a community moderator. Translation: In the nominati...

 
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05:08
hello to everyone
05:18
hello
@Sathya hello brother
@Hardik hi there
 
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06:55
Hello
07:24
Hi all, How do I get the information regarding voting...
@ThiefMaster How do I vote people...
20 hours ago, by Meta SO Election Questions!
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Q: How to vote in moderator elections?

Ramy Al ZuhouriThis page explains every detail of how elections work, except the most important one: how to cast a vote. The nominations period has started and it ends tomorrow, I would like to know how to vote for nominations, and where to find more info about it, underlying that this page isn't clear about it...

@Hardik where is the candidate information
@Hardik Thanks for information...How do I get information when the voting period starts...
 
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12:03
@Pragnani: there's a countdown on the right side; currently 7 hours. The same page will be used for the primary voting and then the regular voting.
 
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13:09
I'm so excited! =oD
@crypticツ Me too
13:37
Wait, are you guys even running? Waiting for the last minute to nominate?
 
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15:57
@LordTorgamus has finally nominated himself, awesome! :D
@JeremyBanksᐛ you doing a last minute entry?
I am not, no. :P
16:12
@JeremyBanksᐛ Thanks, now it's time to sit back and see what happens.
I've already seen the four I want to win - and none of them are me ;)
I have a "shortlist" of 8 candidates. Happily I can vote for all of them in the primaries!
heya @AndyHayden - thanks for your kind words - just to note, I will be bringing back the pig avatar at some point ;)
16:35
Hooray! Good luck again.
16:56
@JonClements you're hoping to lose? :P
17:39
Hour and 20 minutes remaining, feeling confident?
I'll take tat as a maybe.
*that
@Bernie 2 hours and 20 minutes. Our rounding is a bit special.
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@AnnaLear "Special" doesn't really cover it.
@ChrisF Yeah, "special" falls short.
JNK
JNK
@AnnaLear SE's rounding is more linear than curved
17:55
I'm starting to feel more confident that 30 people with really high rep aren't going to make last-minute nominations and push the rest of us out of the primary.
JNK
JNK
@Wooble Well rep doesn't REALLY matter that much, and I think most(?) people realize that
right, up to the point where there aren't 30 people with 100K who decide to run :)
@JNK no, but when primaries start, top 30 candidates by rep make it in. So if a few more high-rep folks nominate right now, some of the lower rep candidates will be eliminated right off.
I remember doing the "how many more people can nominate before I'm out of the running" math back when I nominated. :)
user50049
@AnnaLear I remember that feeling quite well. I barely made it to the primary.
JNK
JNK
@AnnaLear Oh I forgot about the top 30 piece
18:05
Must do actual work now and not spend the next hour compiling detailed data on past elections to answer meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/170065/…
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Q: How late is too late for a prospective mod to be applying?

BernieA good example of this is Mike, who entered the ring about an hour ago. As I see it, the earlier you enter, the better chance you have (that is, assuming no difference between candidates). As you can see, prospective moderators such as Rocket Hazmat have upwards of 30 comments behind his nomina...

18:22
I think it'd be awesome to have a live-stream coverage and commentary on the results of the primary - even as a joke.
And oh my! Lix is in first place! We've got barber coming in on second, with animuson coming in at third! What a race!
lol
I demand that all votes be geolocated and placed on an interactive map.
@Wooble that'd be awesome to do some statistics, but I don't think voters would appreciate their locations being given away like that.
18:41
Aggregating and anonymizing the data is left as an exercise for the reader.
Ooh, my question came up.
@Bernie isn't it magical?
Very.
I'm going to vote for anyone who nominates in the next hour.
How long is actually left?
18:52
Clearly they've really taken their time to carefully consider the implications of a nomination, and thus can be more trusted.
1:08ish.
I wonder if the time remaining will change to "right now" for the next hour after 19:00. :)
@Wooble, you should mention that on my meta thread, I don't think it was brought up.
How many positions are there?
@Bernie there are 4 moderation seats up for grabs
May the youngest candidates win :D
Right.
Are you guys confident?
I'm super-confident that there will be an election.
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18:56
Me? No. I don't have the flagging status as other people, nor the meta performance of people like @animuson.
@RichardJ.RossIII Absolutely :D We will clearly outlive everyone else on the list. Its beneficial for everyone in the long run
I do most of my reviewing in /tools/flagged, so I don't have the review history as others.
@RaghavSood that's not a bad way of looking at it.
I plan to be alive well after the singularity makes programming Q&A redundant.
Or, at least for a few minutes until the killer robots come for me.
I'm not super confident. There's plenty of amazing people on the list.
@Wooble, laser canons are always the answer.
18:59
@Bernie but, why can't a particle cannon be better? or maybe a railgun.
Personally, I think railguns are the future
Knew I should have stayed on the hardware side.
Just a hunk of metal is much cheaper than coherent light.
Or you could program the singularity to be catlike while you make it. It may be self obsessed and narcissistic, but a $1 laser point fixes all
Or even better - their weakness is simple: water
19:00
That reminds me. I should be documenting my fish chasing a laser pointer for youtube.
Nah. My friend has some cats that actually like water
So indian cats like water? Good to know.
@Wooble, your first act as mod (hopefully), can be to bring up laser vs. particle canons on electronics.stackexchange
@Bernie let's do that now at get it like 4 upvotes
Some of them do. My friend has like some 7 cats. Out of which I think three don't mind water.
19:01
For, you know, science!
For science indeed.
Darn it, now I want to play the portal song :|
19:16
44 minutes remaining
user1228
My name?
JNK
JNK
@Will They misspelled "Modrater" in the channel title
This is completely unfair to the people who will nominate in the next half hour! :)
19:29
@Wooble Things tend to break a bit if I don't have the room setup by the time the next phase starts, actually.
But yes. They might not be able to show up to the live event, but they can still answer.
@GraceNote are you reusing the last year's room or making a new one?
@AnnaLear Reused, unfroze, updated.
19:54
A last minute good luck to all nominees :-)
Bah, have to go pick up my daughter from school before I can do any electioneering :)
good luck everyone.
20:08
Hmm. Are all other nominees getting a 0 for their own vote count displayed to them?
@RaghavSood No, unfortunately, you have a negative net score at the moment.
@LordTorgamus Yeah. I'm getting a 0 overall, but if I click it I can see vote counts, from which I see I'm negative :P
JNK
JNK
@RaghavSood No you can expand the count just like on a post
Yeah that's what I'm doing
A couple elections back, the team decided to display all primary scores less than zero as 0 to mitigate embarassment.
The only exception is that you'll see a -1 if you have personally downvoted a candidate whose score is less than zero.
20:10
Ah alright. Makes sense.
How to vote?
@SazzadHossainKhan if you have enough rep there will be up/down buttons besides candidates there right now for the primaries.
@SazzadHossainKhan Click the up/down arrows for each candidate. Up if you want them for mod, down if you don't. Don't click if you don't have an opinion. You need at least 150 rep
@SazzadHossainKhan election page: stackoverflow.com/election
@Flexo it should be only 4 votes up?
20:14
I don't think so - I made 5 already. I think this is for final stage....
@Jean-ChristopheMeillaud This is primary. You vote once/candidate. In election you get three votes
hi all
Hi people!
I killed the chat!
Just curious: Can a nominee vote for themself? (not that it will matter much with this many people voting)
20:19
Nope
@jdwire It's the same as for questions and answers, so no ^_^
Makes sense.
ho do it ? any one help plz
I don't think that's really the subject here, @Splinky...
@Splinky ..... seriously man?
20:21
@RaghavSood sorry i can't find solution :)
Then ask a question on the site itself, not in the chat ;)
i can't ask ^^
@Splinky did you look at the link it gives you when you try to ask?
yes
why ?
20:24
@Splinky Read it, do it.
pretty sure asking questions in random chat rooms wasn't on the list :)
:) i need answer
@Splinky This is not the place to ask the question
and need new account for that
...which would be a breach of rules, and not help you out with your ban
20:26
@RaghavSood ok bye
Wow, I actually have a positive score. I... wasn't actually expecting that! XD
@Splinky new account is not the way to go. fix your existing questions with edits and contribute useful things to the site and you'll get to ask questions again.
(function () {
    if(typeof console.clear == "function") {
        console.clear();
    }
    var data = [];
    $("tr[id^=post-]").each(function () {
        var name = $(this).find(".user-details a").text();
        var vote = +$(this).find(".vote-count-post").text();
        data.push({
            name: name,
            vote: vote
        });
    });
    data.sort(function (a, b) {
        return b.vote - a.vote;
    });
    $.each(data, function (a, b) {
        console.log(b.name, b.vote);
Current standings (generated by running this script https://gist.github.com/jeremybanks/2913432/raw/9dd9f8bb52f1f295f4927ac8adaaa576efd44026/soElectionGraphs.js on the election page):
1. Andrew Barber [367] (21686 rep, 9174 helpful flags)
2. minitech [236] (57727 rep, 3168 helpful flags)
3. ChrisF [225] (60724 rep, 428 helpful flags)
4. Flexo [213] (28663 rep, 7378 helpful flags)
5. animuson [168] (14849 rep, 1565 helpful flags)
6. Gordon [159] (110705 rep, 562 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [158] (6975 rep, 572 helpful flags)
Andrew Barber is on FIRE!
20:30
I must be blind or something... How do we sort the candidates on the [election page]( stackoverflow.com/election/4?tab=primary) ?
@Splinky If you create a new account, you'll still probably be banned. The ban is by IP, not account. I looked at your four questions, and they all have quite a few grammatical errors and not much detail. Fix those problems, and you MIGHT get unbanned.
@user000001 copy-paste the script I just posted in the console (you must be on the election page)
@SalmanA thanx
ooh, or use the script just posted by @JeremyBanksᐛ (the github one)
20:33
Wow, me an Lix are super close
@JeremyBanksᐛ Your script seems to be interpreting "-1" as "1".
@jdwire Because all scores are rounded up to 0, -1 doesn't indicate a lower score, it just indicates that you downvoted the individual, therefore I round it up.
If I rounded up to 0, then people with negative scores that you have voted for, who appear as +1, would be rated above people with negative scores that you have not voted for, so I round up to +1.
The correct behaviour would be to look at your actual votes so that I can get away with only rounding up to 0, but I haven't done that.
@JeremyBanksᐛ Ok, I think I understand.
@Lix fighting to survive!
Lix
Lix
20:54
@mad - just tuning in... what did I miss? :P
@Lix You and me are heroically fighting for 10th place.
Lix
Lix
Are there any userscripts out there to make this page a little more...usable?
@Lix I could make one if you like?
Lix
Lix
@mad - Every time I refresh my scroll wheel dies a little :/
There are
Hold on
28 mins ago, by Jeremy Banks ᐛ
Current standings (generated by running this script https://gist.github.com/jeremybanks/2913432/raw/9dd9f8bb52f1f295f4927ac8adaaa576efd44026/soElectionGraphs.js on the election page):
1. Andrew Barber [367] (21686 rep, 9174 helpful flags)
2. minitech [236] (57727 rep, 3168 helpful flags)
3. ChrisF [225] (60724 rep, 428 helpful flags)
4. Flexo [213] (28663 rep, 7378 helpful flags)
5. animuson [168] (14849 rep, 1565 helpful flags)
6. Gordon [159] (110705 rep, 562 helpful flags)
7. Lord Torgamus [158] (6975 rep, 572 helpful flags)
Lix
Lix
20:58
@kol - nothing better when you find out someone's already done the work for you :)
Run the script in the console on the election page.
@Lix How true XD
@Lix You have 142, I have 141
Lix
Lix
@mad - awesome :P haha
The "Not an answer" flags... they keep coming baaaaaaack!
21:03
well, my votes are cast, good luck @MadaraUchiha and the other nominees
@grasshopper Thanks
@Kolink I'm sorry, I can stop flagging posts like stackoverflow.com/a/15210706/1721527 if you like. :)
@jdwire Just part of the site, @jdwire, and if I want to be a Mod I have to get used to it :p
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Q: A message in my inbox brought me to nowhere

fooI just got a message in my inbox with this link: http://stackoverflow.com/election/4#post-15075560 Well... that doesn't bring me to the message nor anywhere helpful.

@UTC 21:09
1. Andrew Barber 547
2. minitech 363
3. Flexo 344
4. ChrisF 340
5. animuson 260
6. Gordon 256
7. JNK 230
8. bluefeet 228
9. Lord Torgamus 224
10. Lix 149
11. Madara Uchiha 148
12. Sathya 127
13. Rocket Hazmat 115
14. slugster 106
15. Wooble 83
16. Jon Clements 76
17. Raghav Sood 62
18. mattytommo 60
19. Kolink 46
20. Richard J. Ross III 24
21. Mike 7
22. Kevin 3
23. Makoto 3
24. Andro Selva 2
25. kiamlaluno 0
26. Bhuro 0
27. Neal 0
21:12
Damn @Lix, the cap just won't increase, amazing
I think that's dumb.
Showing the vote count is prone to bandwagonning
Do they show it in the actual election?
Primary only.
@Rapptz No, they don't show it in the final phase.
there is no up/down voting in the final election phase at all.
Actually, the way the final phase votes are counted, the numbers wouldn't be very useful even if they were shown.
21:18
@AnnaLear How does it work really?
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A: How are moderator election votes counted, in plain English?

Popular Demand Here's the so-über-short-it's-almost-misleading version: Meek STV does calculations in rounds (or "iteratively," for you programmer types). In the first round, all votes count for the candidate marked as the first choice. The system figures out how many votes are needed to win. If anyone get...

"1st place" worth 3, "2nd" = 2 and "3rd" = 1?
@MadaraUchiha not at all. see the meta post linked above by popular demand. (this never gets old, seriously.)
That may be the self-answer I'm most proud of on any SE site.
Yeah, he actually posted it about a second before I sent mine :PP
@LordTorgamus How is the threshold determined?
I'm assuming it's somehow based on the number of candidates
21:28
I kinda danced around that because it's complicated... the best I can do is tell you to see my last paragraph again and then check out the sources I used.
@LordTorgamus it changes between iterations, too, doesn't it? I read through the whitepaper on MeekSTV once, but repressed most of the details. :)
I believe so, but I'm not 100% sure.
is @Flexo here?
@ErwaySoftware yes
@Flexo I'm thinking about voting for you. How often a day would you be active?
21:36
@ErwaySoftware I spend ~2 hours per day 5 days a week on a train with 3G signal 90% of the time and not much constructive to do with it. That's pretty much fixed, I tend to have a SO tab or two open over the weekends with varying activity.
@ErwaySoftware If I may, I don't think that's particularly important in deciding who to vote for. One could be online 18 hours a day but not actually do anything, or only have half an hour and handle a hundred flags in that time.
@Flexo You get my vote. Hope you win this year!
@Kolink This doesn't particularly affect your point, but I will note that handling 100 flags in half an hour is rather difficult. :)
@AnnaLear Okay, that was an exaggeration XD I'll just hide under a box now :p
@Kolink Yes, yet still important. I agree that time doesn't really matter in that respect, but is still a good gauge of how dedicated you are. In @Flexo 's case, that's much more than me.
21:40
@AnnaLear Handling 100 flags well
@Kevin Good point.
@ErwaySoftware FYI, you can ask all the candidates this question (or any relevant question) at once during Wednesday's Town Hall Chat.
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When I nominated myself, it was noted that I should review more flags. I have since almost doubled my helpful flags! Although I do wish the audits were a little more subtle instead of just inserting random words into posts XD
@LordTorgamus Thanks! I'll think about it. For now, though, Flexo gets it. ErwaySoftware out. Bye!
Wow, so if I get this straight, the first place has a whole lot more influence than the 2nd and 3rd place votes
21:44
@Kolink You'd think that'd be obvious, but some people still fail those.
I saw an edit recently I was convinced was going to be an audit.
@AnnaLear I managed to fail one of those by clicking improve....
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@RaghavSood Sounds like a good report to me
@RaghavSood That doesn't sound fair. I agree with Madara, that should be a bug report.
@RaghavSood I personally go back and forth on whether we should allow "improve" as a valid action on those. On one hand, sure, you might want to improve a bad suggested edit. On the other, these are obviously bad and should be rejected.
21:47
@MadaraUchiha Its been discussed on meta before. Lemme find a link
@MadaraUchiha Already reported. Looking for it now....
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Q: I failed a review audit by clicking Improve

nalplySee: http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/1581133. I clicked Improve to see what exactly has been changed in the title. And then StackOverflow told me that I failed an review audit. Now, what I have to do?

And:
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Q: Improper response to proper response to audit

Lance RobertsFor the first time I failed an audit in review, but I sure don't think I should have. I saw the edit wasn't that good, so I hit the improve button to clean things up and got this message: This was an audit, designed to see if you were paying attention. You didn't pass. This edit vandalizes t...

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Q: Improper response to proper response to audit

Lance RobertsFor the first time I failed an audit in review, but I sure don't think I should have. I saw the edit wasn't that good, so I hit the improve button to clean things up and got this message: This was an audit, designed to see if you were paying attention. You didn't pass. This edit vandalizes t...

Haha, well done, @RaghavSood.
21:48
If we had separate buttons for "approve and improve" and "reject and improve", I'd be a lot more comfortable with counting "reject and improve" as a pass. But either way, we're veering way off topic for this chatroom :)
@AnnaLear you can "improve"+"was not helpful" though.
@AnnaLear Indeed we are.
@Flexo yes, but we can't track that for the purpose of the audit.
That single audit fail managed to get me banned from reviewing for 2 days :/ Still got a few hours left on the ban
I suppose its better that way, for now. Got exams going on x_x
That town hall chat would be tight
It's on 23:00PM on a workday for me (i.e. I need to get up early tomorrow)
Still, I'll probably (for sure) make it.
21:51
Its at 2:30 AM for me
Luckily no exam the next day
Well, I'm guessing the first wave of votes is coming to an end in the next hour or so, the second wave would be when folks from US get back from work.
@MadaraUchiha US folks are probably already getting back from work (or will be in less than an hour); it's almost 5pm here (EST).
Next wave will be when all the asia people wake up
Its 3:25 AM in India. SO has a decent amount of indian users
I guess it'll all be settled in the next 10 hours or so
The rest would be quite obvious from there
Pretty much, yeah
21:56
1 "Andrew Barber" 755
2 "Flexo" 500
3 "minitech" 485
4 "ChrisF" 457
5 "Gordon" 369
6 "animuson" 361
7 "Lord Torgamus" 324
8 "JNK" 316
9 "bluefeet" 314
10 "Madara Uchiha" 212
Few finally some breathing space!
Me and Lix were ~1 point apart up until 180 :o
still pretty much neck and neck
11. Lix 186
12. Sathya 162
13. Rocket Hazmat 151
14. slugster 143
15. Jon Clements 122
16. Wooble 121
17. mattytommo 107
18. Raghav Sood 103
19. Kolink 73
20. Richard J. Ross III 34
21. Mike 25
22. Makoto 19
23. Kevin 13
24. Neal 2
25. kiamlaluno 2
26. Andro Selva 2
27. Bhuro 0
I'm interested in seeing how the primary voting pattern develops over time. Then we can answer questions like "do the same people basically stay on top from start to finish?" and "do Town Hall Chats matter?" Going to try to remember to tally the votes every hour or so and make a line graph after the primary is over.
@LordTorgamus I doubt someone's going to get past Andrew at this point.
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 2 hours ago, by Popular Demand
Andrew Barber is already at 171. I move that we give him the win by acclamation and continue the election for only the remaining three slots.
That was when only one other candidate had even broken triple digits.
22:03
Hmm, looks like I'm all alone on my little island, with +30 on one sise and -39 on the other XD
@LordTorgamus I wanted to do this after past elections, too, but never had enough data.
@Kolink Doesn't look like it to me, or am I missing something?
Huh, Neal broke the 0 barrier
@MadaraUchiha What I mean is, I need 30 more upvotes to reach the person above me, and the person behind needs 39, so there's a fairly even, relatively large (~40%) gap between me and the surrounding candidates.
@Kolink Oh
9. bluefeet [326] (54977 rep, 1130 helpful flags)
10. Madara Uchiha [219] (38803 rep, 292 helpful flags)
11. Lix [193] (16273 rep, 712 helpful flags)
Huge gap from above, little from below
22:21
I'm sorry if this is off-topic, but I have to share my incredulity: The heck is that???
@Kolink a really elaborate ad for this guy's FB page, apparently.
The joker part of my brain wants to flag that as spam because the user linked his/her own facebook page at the bottom of the post.
Also, sucker! You could have quietly flagged that yourself, but you've aided the enemy -- me -- by allowing me to increase my helpful flag count by one before the end of the election!
@LordTorgamus I already flagged it before posting.
@Kolink Whatever the Apache Software License was doing as an answer to that post, it's gone now.
@Kolink You can delv it yourself right??
22:27
@PeeHaa Yes, but then it wouldn't be counted as SPAM.
@Kolink Meh that's how it's meant to work they say
The flags being cleared automatically isn't a flaw in the workflow, the workflow is designed to only consider flags on posts and clearing the flags when the post is deleted makes sense. The "flaw" is that we don't have a way for people to flag user accounts (and I'm not sure we'd want that), and PeeHaa's flag was a hack (it's the common workaround when you absolutely must flag people instead of content). — Yannis Oct 15 '12 at 9:57
@LordTorgamus While the odds are in his favor, this isn't necessarily a foregone conclusion. Two elections ago, I lead the primaries for a while, finished third, and then ended up well out of the final election at 7th. Surprised to see the number of votes in there so far without the 99 notification glitch from last time.
@BradLarson I was thinking of comparing him to you earlier, actually.
22:47
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Q: will the election guarantee we will have non-overlapping moderators?

dnozaysee the election for moderators that is currently open. Here are some key points: There are only 4 positions available, Not everyone is interested in all tags, Some are even "specialized" in some areas. How do we ensure we don't get 4 more moderators that will overlap in their interests and ...

23:03
Glad Andrew Barber is out in the lead. Bummed animuson isn't showing better (my first and second choices). minitech is my third.
23:14
I hardly think any of the 3 are likely to not be in the next round.
I like when candidates use the election chat to discuss why they don't want to vote to delete spam because they might not get credit for a helpful flag. :/
Totally just got home from watching The Campaign with a friend so I wouldn't obsess over how the primary votes are coming in. :)

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