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01:38
Howdy, anyone?
@TristanWiley Hey
What's up?
Nm, hbu?
Trying so hard to understand this API.... And failing
Which API?
01:40
polarislibrary.com xD
It's something the library I work at uses, trying to make a basic app haha
Also, you're a moderator on Lifehacks SE? Nice!
Yeah, also on Health
Nice, love Lifehacks :)
Yeah, it's a cool site
Totally
Okay, let's do this.
reads intensely
Hehe, I've never really used any APIs, except jQuery
01:48
Ah, what's your primary programming language?
Mostly Python, but I've gotten into web development, especially JS for some userscripts here on SE
Oh sweet! I need to make a website... Really soon :/
I might make one this summer for my dad's business. I have to learn back-end web development first, though
Sweet! Yeah, if you want to give me some help sometime ;)
That'd be cool. Are you making a personal website?
01:53
Yeah, just a portfolio type thing.
I only have one app at the moment, but, I'm working on it :)
Cool, I'm probably gonna make one eventually soon
Android app or IOS?
Android :)
iOS is way to expensive, plus, Apple annoys me.
Yeah, I like Android better
25$ one time and freedom to code on whatever machine you want (Android)
-or-
99$ a year with a requirement of owning a Mac (iOS)
I'm gonna start developing for Android soon. I still need to learn Java, though, which I'm gonna do this summer
01:56
It's fun!
Hmm, I'm no expert. But I can help out if I am able to
I'm actually going out to Carnegie Mellon next week for a 1 week beginner Java camp
Oh awesome!
Yeah, it should be fun
Sounds like it! Wish I did something like that
It's part of iD Tech. Not sure if there are any more available for this summer, but they are available every summer. I'm hoping to do one at MIT next summer
02:05
Sweet, I just started randomly, taught myself.
Yeah, same. How long have you been doing it?
Not sure, I started a while ago but didn't get really into it until recently
Yeah, I started about a year ago, but haven't actually done anything until about 6 months ago.
Nice, alright, I'm switching projects haha
What're you doing now?
02:09
Working on an update for the app I have released
What's the app?
Ever read xkcd?
Yeah, I love xkcd :)
It's a reader for the comic :)
Hehe, that's awesome
Oh, it's in your bio
02:14
Hi guys
Anyone here familiar with NodeJS?
Hey, and no
Aww man
Michael if you like it keep it ;)
Is there an xkcd API, or did you have to like scrape the site for information
There's an api... One moment
02:21
Ok, that's pretty simple
Pretty much xD
Ooh, I'm working on something now too
What is it?
It's a userscript for putting references on SE posts
02:38
Awesome!
I'm still working on improving the design, but it functions properly
I wish I had more knowledge :/
I wanted to make a Chat app at one point
Oh, I definitely can't make a chat app, just scripts for it
Yeah, I can't make scripts. Idk
I mostly do DOM manipulation, but there's some things that you can do with more back-end-y stuff. If you know a little bit a web development, you can build userscripts
02:51
Yeah, I know almost nothing :P
You know Java. You've built an app already, much more than I've done
So? I'm sure you've done more
And by "know" Java. I don't know much
Well, why don't we both agree we don't know much then ;)
Yay! We both stink :P
02:57
I'm hoping to make it into PennApps
The hackathon?
Do you have to be in college?
anyone have experience using RSS feeds?
HMU
@A.O. Using them, Yes. Making them, No.
03:03
@michaelpri Hey! I'm a pretty experienced full stack web dev (not an expert but i know a little) I could be crazy but it's really hard to find accepted standards on using rss feeds???
@michaelpri Just in school, high school works
@TristanWiley Oh, how old are you?
What are people's thoughts regarding little-endian vs big-endian? I'm reading this, but I can't get a straight answer.
15, Sophomore in High School
Will be going into 11th Grade next year
@A.O. what are you trying to do?
03:05
Oh okay, I'm going into 9th next year (I'm 14)
Ahh nice
Do you have a Hangouts?
Yeah, but I never use it
@michaelpri I want to display latest article from a few major sites. Just confused on best approach, display directly from RSS feed? Or ping Rss every so often then save to DB, (possibly review content first) then display?
Ah, have any contact that's used a lot?
@michaelpri i realize rss struct can change so review is best, but of course that takes precious time before publish.....what methods have you used?
03:07
I use my email and phonenumber the most, but I never have to use hangouts because all of my friends have iPhones
Ew, iPhones
Hehe, ikr
@A.O. What language?
@BardiHarborow currently using php-mysql backend
@A.O. I'm not really sure how my I can help. I've mostly just used simple RSS feeds and just put a link on the page
03:10
the safest approach to me seems to be 1). Get rss feed every X minutes 2.) Save any new content to DB 3.) Review, mark as publishable......site would load most recent "publishable" content......something Im missing?
Want to talk on Hangouts or Email?
Either works for me
@BardiHarborow I can display just fine. Just wanted to inquire about some best practices, so that my site doesnt look like SH*T when one of the feeds is down, or the XML structure abruptly changes...
@A.O. I thought the whole point of RSS was that it was a standard, and that the XML structure would not abruptly change (remember that you are in the same boat as RSS readers).
03:17
@BardiHarborow yes, but looking over even a few RSS feeds you can see drastic differences (some offer up thumbnail image links, others only text)......so if that company redesigns their site their feed would also change accordingly, is that just nature of the beast?
@BardiHarborow I could be totally wrong with the above assumption, tis why im here lol
Surprisingly, I can't find anything related on SE. Might be a good question. Not sure how to phrase it to be OT though.
@BardiHarborow yeah i was surprised at the lack of info on rss feeds as well. The main dilemma for me is: Reliable Content vs Time to Publish, trying to find a solution for both
@A.O. You obviously care about your website more that I do about my junk. =)
03:46
@BardiHarborow LMAO
 
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11:26
@Unihedron No zombie pony queen any more? ;-)
Oh, hi everyone btw...
 
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12:54
@Unihedron you noticed it...
hey @Ahmad !
o/
what's up?
Nothing really, i just got up. At 9am. :P
I got today at 9am as well :p
and coded through
#1weekhackathon
cool :D
:D
12:58
@Ahmad do you do javascript?
Nah, not really
I only know a bit of js
why, what are you doing?
my animations hate me :D
doesn't work
@JacobGray What's it supposed to do?
13:00
hey
oh, you run the width method before you create it... so obviously that doesn't work
but even if I fix that it doesn't work
@ProgramFOX oops :D
but why doesn't it work?
I have no idea and I cannot fix it if I don't know what it should do.
I just may have found an amazing flat in Berlin for my internship
hope this works out
Prime calculating algorithm fails for small max-values???
WTF is wrong here?
n = 150
sqrt_n = int(sqrt(n))
no_primes = {j for i in range(2,sqrt_n) for j in range(i*2, n, i)}
print list(no_primes)
primes = {i for i in range(n) if i not in no_primes}
print list(primes)
(Python, code directly copied from a tutorial.)
Sam
Sam
13:17
Hmm, I see the problem... you're using Python.
@ByteCommander Try [] instead of {}
Also be sure you run it from Python 2.
>>> n=15
>>> sqrt_n = int(sqrt(n))
>>> noprimes = {j for i in range(2, sqrt_n) for j in range(i*2, n, i)}
>>> primes = {i for i in range(n) if i not in noprimes}
>>> noprimes
set([4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14])
>>> primes
set([0, 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13])
@ProgramFOX it works somehow with large values for n, but not with small ones like n=15.
As you know, 9 is definitely no prime.
0 and 1 are not either, but that can be fixed easily:
Eh, with n=15 it just detects the difference between odd and even numbers...
really?
Oh my gosh...
Not even tutorial code can be trusted...
What tutorial is it?
Wait, my previous statement was wrong, because it did add "2" to "primes".
Lets dig into that:
for n=15, sqrt_n = 3
maybe I should try it with sqrt_n = int(sqrt(n))+1
that's worth a try indeed
Now it looks good.
At least for n=15.
Have to go, we're doing a BBQ in our garden.
bbl.
cya!
enjoy :D
13:51
helli
hello
hi
twitter needs to improve their widget api
nm, hbu?
13:53
same
ive started using wordpress and its functions
pretty good
You making a website
A personal one?
no client
Oh, cool
14:11
are you working on any projects atm?
I'm working on a userscript for SE
@IPAddress I'm practicing atomic chess with ProgramFOX.
coool sounds fun
@Unihedron What's atomic chess?
yup, but now I have to go for a hour or something, cya!
14:17
cya
@michaelpri its just online chess
Atomic chess is a chess variant. Standard rules of chess apply, but all captures result in an "explosion" through which all surrounding white and black pieces other than pawns are removed from play. Some variations additionally remove rules concerning check such that the king may be able to move into or remain in check. == History == In 1995 the German Internet Chess Server (GICS) introduced the game, based on rules one of its users collected from friends who played offline. It was soon after incorporated into the Middle East Wild Internet Server (MEWIS) and other smaller servers before b...
It's a variant.
@Unihedron do you like minecraft?
In fact, my favourite chess variant is avalanche chess.
^ That's crazy though.
Andernach chess is a chess variant in which a piece making a capture (except kings) changes colour. For instance, if a white bishop on a2 were to capture a black knight on g8, the end result would be a black bishop on g8. Non-capturing moves are played as in orthodox chess. If a pawn captures on eighth rank, it is promoted first and then changes colour. The game was named after the German town of Andernach, which is the site of annual meetings of fairy chess enthusiasts. It was during the 1993 meeting there that Andernach chess was introduced with a chess problem composing tournament for Andernach...
^ Here's another noteworthy chess variant.
wow
thats looks more fun
14:22
Yeah,
^ And here's the "rollerball" chess variant, probably inspired by athletes running in loops.
Kung-Fu Chess is a chess variant without turns, therefore being related as a real-time strategy game. It is a computer online game played by two or four players simultaneously using the Internet. The game was created by the independent Shizmoo Games in the beginning of the 2000s, and was arguably the most popular game on the company's past website. It gained fans from all over the world, assembling a community of proficient players, a community which partly kept existing after the website was shut down late in 2008. Kung-fu Chess was the winner of the 2002 Independent Games Festival in the category...
^ That's just nuts.
Finally found the variant I said was my favourite:
Avalanche chess is a chess variant designed by Ralph Betza in 1977. After moving one of your own pieces, you must move one of your opponent's pawns forward one space. == Rules == Rules are as normal chess except for the following. After you move one of your own pieces, you must move one of your opponent's pawns one space forward toward you. You cannot use your opponent's pawn to capture and you cannot move your opponent's pawn two spaces forward. If none of opponent's pawns can be moved, then that part of the turn is skipped. If you must move your opponent's pawn to promotion, then your opponent...
Huh, there's an RPG based chess.
"Schrödinger's chess: Players' minor pieces are concealed so the opponent does not know what they are until revealed. When covered, pieces move in a restricted way (as queens that can only move two squares)." Ok that's nuts
woh that looks kinda fun
15:01
I'm back
me too.
But we have a thunderstorm warning here now...
Might happen that I am going to shutdown quickly when it starts.
okay
in what country do you live?
Germany.
Was over 30°C here for the last few days and now it's gone get ugly outside...
Yesterday it was over 30°C here too, with a thunderstorm in the evening.
15:11
Yeah, it comes from North...
@ProgramFOX: I saw you :P
You know the "Rock am Ring" festival in Germany, between Frankfurt and Cologne? @ProgramFOX
Did you like the surprise pawn sweep with my queen?
@ByteCommander nope
@Unihedron Didn't spectate for long, it was correspondence so it could take long for a new move, hence I left and I didn't see that.
15:15
@ProgramFOX lol
30. ...Qe5 is where is startz
The thunderstorm passed them and 33 people got injured because a lightning (or a few?) hit the place...
And now a pawn sweep to the other side.
It's a rock music festival, one of the most famous German ones...
@ByteCommander :O
@Unihedron haha, nice
@ByteCommander how bad are the thunderstorms over there?
15:17
depends.
usually no big deal.
But sometimes...
We also had tennis ball-sized hail two years ago here.
Hope this does not happen again.
that must hurt
You could drive through every village and it looked like there was a war.
in summer, the thunderstorms here are usually pretty bad.
But it is the wind that does the damage
15:19
smashed windows and roller blinds with more holes than blinds everywhere...
Here in Germany we usually have mild weather and almost no catastrophes.
Just sometimes something happens, but not too often.
To take or not to take the pawn: The movie
Shakespeare quotes?
I still have the quote about the nipple from Macbeth laying around somewhere...
;-D
I didn't take, and I am glad because the opponent fell for my tactic and lost an additional pawn.
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@JacobGray How unfriendly... ;)
15:26
Did you know? Correspondence chess was played by mail, where you send your move to your friend. (This is also why it's called that way - a mailto address was formally a correspondence address)
:P
NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE:
blah
@Unihedron You could play it via letters too.
@ByteCommander Continue?
You knew that the DDR won a world championship in correspondence chess (by letter) long after the DDR was gone and Germany was reunited?
What do you mean by "continue"?
Sam
Sam
15:30
@JacobGray Must die.
@ByteCommander How does dance dance revolution fit into that?
@ByteCommander I was curious how you'd elaborate to support your groundless stance.
Deutsche Demokratische Republik!
@ByteCommander What's that?
Sounds like a name of a delicious serving for appetite before main dish.
The eastern part of Germany that was separated from the western part during the cold war.
Which was after we lost World War II.
Until 1990.
There was a wall covering the whole border.
You never heard of that?
15:32
What do you learn about history over there in Hong-Kong?
@ByteCommander I'm going to cut off your irrelevant history lesson here. Sorry, what does that have to do playing correspondence chess?
4 mins ago, by Byte Commander
You knew that the DDR won a world championship in correspondence chess (by letter) long after the DDR was gone and Germany was reunited?
@ByteCommander Nothing. Not that they don't teach history, but that they teach nothing at all. Fin.
It takes incredibly long if you use letters instead of mails.
Sam
Sam
@JacobGray It begins.
15:33
@ByteCommander With your obscure acronym, there's no way I'm going to verify that. Citation needed.
acronym?
Middle click, "Search duckduckgo for 'acronym'", click
THREE STROKES
Acronyms are abbreviations.
I explained its meaning to you!
Sam
Sam
lol
15:35
So what's the problem???
@JacobGray YUMMY! :D
Sam
Sam
So, pancake = zombie pony queen.
@ByteCommander Back up that history with solid proof, please. Usually I'll be able to verify this with several databases, but your acronym is obscure.
Oh, come on!
Everybody in Europe knows what the DDR was.
Nothing obscure here.
@ByteCommander "Everybody in Europe" composes of a very small portion compared to all human on Earth.
Sam
Sam
15:37
@ByteCommander Wait, the what?
@Unihedron bfy.tw/Cg4
East Germany, formally the German Democratic Republic or GDR (German: Deutsche Demokratische Republik ([ˈdɔʏtʃə demoˈkʀaːtɪʃə ʀepuˈbliːk]) or DDR), was a state within the Eastern Bloc during the Cold War period. From 1949 to 1990, it administered the region of Germany which was occupied by Soviet forces at the end of the Second World War—the Soviet Occupation Zone of the Potsdam Agreement, bounded on the east by the Oder–Neisse line. The Soviet zone surrounded West Berlin, but did not include it; as a result, West Berlin remained outside the jurisdiction of the GDR. The German Democratic Republic...
@ByteCommander And?
None of it mentions correspondence chess.
The English abbreviation would have been GDR...
I am looking for that one now.
@ByteCommander You're just now looking for it?
Sam
Sam
> DDR is the German acronym [...]
15:40
I'd like to have you know that I already efficiently searched on >50 trusty databases.
Sam
Sam
So not everyone in Europe would know of it.
@Sam Even then, graph for you:
Sam
Sam
Yay, graphs.
Extrapolation: Europe runs out of people in 2060.
3
:D
Sam
Sam
\o/
15:42
Hooray!
@ByteCommander Found supporting material yet?
No...
Still looking.
Sam
Sam
I'll send a search party in 3 days...
I found a German-only wiki article, but with a not enough proof banner...
The 10th correspondence chess Olympiad (1987-1995)
@Unihedron Okay, I give up. I can't find a real trusty article. maybe it is just a myth...
16:05
I am back :D
i was off annoying people :P
What do you think of the "Acer Extensa 2508" notebook?
There is an ad of a local store selling it for 280€, which is pretty cheap.
@ByteCommander stats?
It says Intel Celeron QuadCore N2940 with 1.83GHz (2.25 with turbo)
4GB RAM (1600MHz)
@ByteCommander what do you plan to do with it?
Sam
Sam
@ByteCommander How about the graphics card?
16:08
IntelHD, nothing special.
But it will at least work well with Ubuntu ;)
Sam
Sam
Yeah.
my laptop has 8GB, and i am usually around 50% with XAMPP, brackets,photoshop,and FF open :D
It's mainly for coding and surfing, not really a game computer.
Sam
Sam
You should should be ok then.
I don't play those fancy modern 3d games anyway...
16:10
unless you try to run a VM, or android emulator
VM should work, I think... no?
Sam
Sam
@ByteCommander I've got a Pentium dual-core and get by fine. So you'll be alright.
@ByteCommander RAM may be an issue.
I mean, a quad core with 4G ram?
That should be enough to run e.g. a virtual XP system.
Sam
Sam
Depends on what you're doing.
And you're expectations...
As I said, nothing really ressource-hungry.
I will probably not do much HD video editing or play the newest ego shooters.
500GB hdd is also enough.
Sam
Sam
16:13
You should be fine then, especially at that price.
Sam
Sam
> [...] made possible by Intel's Celeron processor, Windows 8.1 with Bing, a low-cost TN screen, and other low-budget components.
LOL
Sorry, I just found that wording hilarious.
16:30
I think it looks ok for surfing and coding with mainly Ubuntu.
I'll probably shrink the Win8.1 anyway and only use it where I can't avoid it...
Sam
Sam
16:58
Listens to audio encoded in MP3 for the first time in ages... and remembers why he hates that format.
@ByteCommander Win10's coming out soon...
Yes, I know...
Have to look if a free upgrade is included for that model...
@Sam What's wrong with mp3?
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