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12:54
.o/ hi!
Swedish or english? :)
Nice that you work at Spotify :) I understand you can't talk about your internals in detail. Just curious about general ideas.
"music-101-with-js-bach" ! You know Bach? do you play a instrument also?
Hej! English!
Spotify is great :)
I know Bach and I play a lot of music!
Nice, hope you like Stockholm and the swedish weather also :)
I love Stockholm, but I'm currently in New Zealand, I'm home due to the pandemic
Nice! I have a master in classical music (violin). Bach is... god...
Yeah, good you can work from "home" :)
What do you play?
I live in sweden also, work in Stockholm also, but from home in Uppsala now :)
Oh amazing! My background is piano and bass - Bach is beyond god!
@Sergio Nice! Where do you work?
13:04
I work as CTO in a small company and will start at Klarna after the summer
I worked with music until about 4 years ago, was head of a music department here in sweden but then changed to my "hobby", programming.
My brother plays piano, classical. Great instrument.
Klarna is great, I've heard plenty of good things :)
Happy to hear, I look forward for it.
The interview process was serious but gave also a good impression,.
Music is tough as a career - software is good because it pays for expensive guitars :P
How long have you been in Sweden?
Ahaha :) I know what you mean
So I can't ask you much about streams :D
I moved over in May last year, not too long but enough to feel quite settled. The Swedish approach to the virus freaked me out a little bit though so I went home :)
13:07
Or I can ask but you might not answer. ;)
Haha unfortunately not
The issues we have are likely different becuase we have to deal with DRM etc
Yeah, swedish culture is different and the approach to the virus is like 180degrees of what new zealand did right?
And a bunch of custom stuff
@Sergio Pretty much! We had 7 weeks of lock down
But now we're 1500 cases and 21 deaths, and only 1 new case in the last 4 weeks
Yeah, I'm curious what is the smartes in 2020 to send audio between server and client.
Only 1 in last 4 weeks is good! Hope the cure comes soon
Sorry, I wrote weeks but I meant days
1am brain :P
13:10
ok
For some reason I can code at 1am but not communicate apparently 😅
I hope sweden's strategy won't be too wrong and that when we open up more people have imunity
Yes I hope so too - I'd like to get back to Stockholm ASAP
My worry is that it will mutate
Yes, and when so many people have it the chances to mutate are higher
But obviously much smarter people that I are making the decisions and they have much better data
So fingers crossed I get back over for summer!
13:11
yes, but still different countries (with smart people) did very diferent strategies. Like a huge global experiment
what is you strong area? JavaScript?
Yeah, front end architecture kind of stuff
What about yourself?
front end also, I did a lot of work back in the days with MooTools. Many people went to Spotify from there. So I did a lot of browser normalisation behaviour. And I've been working a lot with Vue. I'm the founder of the Stockholm Vue.js meetup
Very cool! I did a lot of JQuery and Backbone back in the day. I haven't done much Vue, Spotify is all React and prior to that I was working with Angular
I will dig a bit into streaming. Can't almost nothing. Don't know if hls, rmtp or sockets is the way to go :DD and I supose you can encrypt the stream itself also... I will take that in my afterlife :)
Mostly I focus on stuff that isn't glued to a particular framework these days!
13:15
Never worked with Angular, but feels Vue and Angular have quite in common.
@Sergio I'm sure you could inspect the network traffic on the Web Player and see what's going on :P
@Sergio I get a similar vibe, I think I'd feel quite comfortable doing Vue. React still feels a bit of a mishmash to me
I don't have Spotify :P But maybe I should :) I was sad as a musician the payments where so small... but guess that is kind of childish
It's a tough one.
I went to a show recently and heard one of my favourite bands trash talk my employer on stage :/
I know that at Klarna I will be working with React and Typescript... that will be interesting. React is great, Typescript I havn't used much so for now just feels like it makes code harder to read.
The thing is that bands have always been getting treated badly - the labels have just managed to make use the bad guys.
@Sergio I've been doing TypeScript for about 5 years now, and honestly I don't know if I'll ever go back.
13:17
I think its great for teams with Juniors to avoid messing types in function and stuff
@phenomnomnominal not fun... clash of universes. I would like to know more about the numbers so I can make a better judgement
@phenomnomnominal ah, that is encouraging. Good to hear!
@Sergio this is true - but those benefits apply to everyone. Just a whole set of problems you stop thinking about
@phenomnomnominal ok, the labels also where quite strong back in the CD times
@Sergio the numbers are not good at all. Which is why I support bands by going to shows 😅 a bit of a paradox
@phenomnomnominal that is good :) balancing society
did you play classical music or most pop/rock? jazz?
@phenomnomnominal is it the labels where the problem is?
Mostly hardcore punk these days :D
13:22
ah! cool, I think the punk scene is Stockholm is ok right? at least it was in the 80s I heard
it's a pretty tangled mess. https://musically.com/2020/05/05/spotify-should-pay-musicians-more-lets-talk-about-how/

This article is a pretty good summary I think
ah, nice will read
@Sergio Yeah it's awesome, I saw Refused at Berns at the end of last year
cool
can we have a lunch someday when things are back to normal? would be nice to meet you
Yeah of course! That would be good fun!
13:23
just found you on linkedin will send a invite. feel free to not accept :)
Haha no worries
Maybe ping you here after I read the article. I would like to know more, many friends ask me stuff because I can programming
kind of "you understand both worlds"
Totally! I may be asleep, but I'll reply when I can
but I don't have answers
what is the time there now?
15.25 here
13:25
oops :DD go sleep!
thanks for answering me, catch you later and sleep good!
Have a good day!
 
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18:24
@phenomnomnominal interesting article! Thanks for pointing it. Yeah, some things need to change in the industry. Musicians right now are having a hard time, no audience, playing for free on facebook.
Happy I met you here! Really hope we can get some lunch one day soon!

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