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4:00 PM
That's cause emoticons express emotion.
Emojis express how firm your stool is.
And I'm not talking about your 🪑.
 
乁( ◔ ౪◔)ㄏ
 
Emojis feel like fablets.
Sure, they're more expressive than emoticons/smart phones.
But they're not as good as a good gif/tablet.
 
I'll make you a deal.
If I get you a gif yard, could you just, like...yell on that instead?
I'll be the neighborhood kid if you need to complete the roleplay.
 
Also, I'm struggling to agree with your claim it's a bike shed argument.
 
the best place to put emojis are in commit messages
 
4:02 PM
@Dragonrage you take that back right now
</3
 
If you turned up to an interview without any trousers/pants, everyone would have an opinion.
Doesn't make it a bike shed argument.
 
@Makoto a picture is a 1000 words, and when you are trying to stay under 50 characters, it helps
 
@Druckles I would conjecture that it's more like being in an interview in which your shoes are starting to fall apart. Sure, it adds an opinion, but it's not the main point of the interview.
 
I'll accept that analogy.
But it doesn't make it an invalid point to bring up.
 
At best it's orthogonal to the main point.
 
4:04 PM
@Druckles I love my kilt ...
 
If someone said, "Their shoes were scruffy, perhaps they don't consider their image."
I wouldn't respond with, "That's a bike shed."
 
Well not in that kind of conversation, no.
 
And if someone posts a SO blog post and starts 💩ing everywhere I think dismissing people's complaints with, "That's a bike shed" is equally invalid.
 
However we're dealing with a lot of people who have an opinion about emojis and their use on Stack Overflow. Kind of like a lot of people who have an opinion about what color the bikeshed should be.
 
Yes, but the colour of the bike shed is not important to how the power plant works.
 
4:06 PM
...which is my point.
 
How you present 💋 yourself 👽 on SO 👩‍💻 when writing 🖊 a blog post 📫 as a staff member 🕴 is still important.
 
Yes, but literally one or two emojis doesn't require such a visceral reaction. C'mon. :(
 
It was prefaced with "This isn't an extensive issue".
I didn't perceive the post to be visceral.
 
@Makoto Tim Post just suggested an alternate title for "the book" BTW: "Poetry of mod-message replies: a coffee table book"
 
I read that 3 times and every time read "a coffee book table"
 
4:13 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I can get with that
 
you need coffee @NickA
Can't judge a book by its cover.
 
Would the Kickstarter for it also offer a tier where in I buy the book and it literally turns into a coffee table too?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I think it's because coffee table book just sounds... unnatural
 
Zoe
@Druckles But more importantly, paste.ofcode.org/r5qT8nStUqinGjHRXznnhz
 
I'd put that book in my toilet instead. Just in case I run out of paper.
 
4:15 PM
@NickA Yes, it does @NickA. Not many of us have coffee tables.
 
@Zoe ZOE!, shtahp!
 
coffee table is so upper class.
 
Zoe
@NickA 😘
 
You don't have a coffee table?
I have a coffee table for tea
 
Zoe
Why do you need an entire, separate table for one type of liquid?
 
4:15 PM
I have a table full of coffee I spilled
 
@Zoe We also have a tea table, but that's for tea, not tea
 
Well that was a paradox
 
translation: We also have a dinner table, but that's for dinner, not tea
 
Zoe
@NickA Don't make me anti-rickroll you :P
 
You get me every time
 
4:19 PM
did you just flag some spam rick rolling answer? because I nuked one account that did this today.
 
? no
 
Zoe
Huh?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre like this one?
 
@Dragonrage Nah-ah, there is no way I'm clicking on you
 
okay. Coïncidence then. Someone posted the rick lyrics as an answer. Guess what: the account was deleted.
@Dragonrage seriously ... :)
 
4:21 PM
pls no banerino
 
Zoe
@Dragonrage It's times like these I'm glad Firefox auto-blocks auto-play from media with audio
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre It seems that Stack Exchange has let the poster down.
 
@JohnDvorak It appears they were deserted
 
were they ran around though?
 
I don't know, but I expect they cried
You know, when we said goodbye
 
Zoe
4:23 PM
Alyways gonna give you up...
 
I never meant to hurt them.
 
Zoe
:P
 
@Zoe firefox, ruining my fun
you should use chrome instead. that way it eats about half your ram
 
Zoe
I like Firefox. It blocks all kinds of nastiness
 
so does ublock origin. i run it on every browser i use
 
Zoe
4:24 PM
nasty ads, nasty trackers, nasty audio rickrolling attempts...
 
Really? I guess I should block that video in uBlock.
 
@JohnDvorak report the video for trolling
 
Zoe
Block the URL, problem solved
 
@Zoe there are other urls for the same song
 
Why? It is titled correctly. It's the link to it that was deceptive.
 
4:27 PM
@NickA yeah, I know. Seems that Bhargav is AWOL, Cody seems pretty absent too, and we have a zillion custom flags. Those are the worst. But I'm working on it. Less than 200 flags in the queue right now. But it went up to 500 in the week.
 
Zoe
@Dragonrage yeah... Some are worse than others
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Bhargav has said why he's gone though
 
AFAIR he's got too much work to handle flags.
 
Zoe
yeah
 
@Zoe clever
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah, I've cut back on them a bit and have only been flagging the more serious ones, it seems like Martijn has picked up all my recent ones
 
Zoe
4:29 PM
@JohnDvorak yeah. #3 is especially crafty :D
 
@Zoe I hate you
 
Zoe
What's with all this hostility?! :P
 
Yeah yeah tosses popcorn
 
Zoe
catches popcorn mid-air OY! Popcorn is a limited resource
 
I meant at you!
 
4:31 PM
@NickA you can still flag NAAs or other. Custom flags are going to take a while.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah, I've still being doing them, I meant custom
 
I'm really tired about those:
 
Zoe
@NickA Still, you could drop some
 
> I have the same problem, did you find solution ?
Hey, this is the answer box you nitwit...
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah, I have the same problem with them, did you find a solution?
 
4:33 PM
But I feel like I'm trying to forbid teens to try to watch porn. Not possible.
 
lmao
 
They want a reply, anything. So trying to warn them that the section is for answers only isn't going to make a difference. They'll try, get blocked, will create another account... I guess that"s the drawback of the site popularity.
 
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah, but you see, what you need is a network-based whitelist blocking all answers containing "I have the same problem" and "Did you find solution"
Problem solved :P
 
Natty does that right?
 
It has heuristics that include that, like keywords, ending with ?, containing ? etc
 
4:35 PM
problem is: some people start by answering; "I have the same problem", then they provide an actual answer....
they meant "I had the same problem", but with wrong tense.
In that case, editing is the way.
 
"I have the same problem, I fixed it doing this, did you find a solution to your problem?"
 
exactly the kind of answer that requires editing, not blocking
 
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Natty detects stuff, and lets us flag it, but there's a lot of trash that needs to be deleted
 
On the other hand, when you want to put "-1" in a comment you need a trick...
You can search for "I can't comment" or "not enough reputation", stuff like that.
 
I have a desktop version of something similar to natty that points me at potential rubbish
 
4:38 PM
Someone (coldspeed/cs95) searched for "accepted answer" in posts. It finds a lot of crap too.
An evolution would be to warn the user before they post...
like the "low quality question title" warning (that is borked)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre you could search for almost anything on SO, and find a lot of stuff that could be deleted. so much stuff to delete and so little time
 
so few votes, too
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah, so my personal "natty" just showed me this before I could even see it in browser...
 
@NickA good one. And no need to flag too :)
 
pop, I assume your magic
 
4:42 PM
yup
I wonder why OP could not delete the question though... only 0 score answers...
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre net 0 or no votes?
 
no votes...
@JohnDvorak yeah. Search for "accepted answer", "can't comment", etc... with 0 score. Else too many clumsy but good answers.
 
sometimes i wish i could straight up delete posts like mods. i periodically check 10k tools page and go through things with delete votes, and most of the time there are a bunch of things with like 1-2 votes needed, but Ive already voted to delete
 
I stand by what I said, I would love to be able to just ban people from reviewing or making suggested edits
 
@Dragonrage maybe some elections are coming up 😀
@NickA you can flag those edits (custom flag, ...) we can ban users manually.
 
4:45 PM
@Zoe 🤦‍♂️
 
seems that SOCVR just moved here.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah, but the flags are a pain to write up and take a long time to handle if the user has made a lot of suggested edits (soz for 2nd ping)
 
true. We can't take flaggers word, we have to double check
(no prob in pinging, as long as it's not a flag in disguise)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre for the site i actively do moderation tasks on, we just recently had an election, and i dont see one coming for at least a year or so. maybe more
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre 🌳🌲🌲🌳🚩🌲🌳🌲
 
4:48 PM
I have no information about an election on SO. Yvette stepped down but that seems temporary, and it would require more than that to trigger an election I guess. Like several people stepping down for good
@NickA I saw that!
 
>.>
 
that said, more moderators make up for the lack of automatic NAA detection tools :)
 
Back later, home time, @Zoe look after this passes popcorn
 
Zoe
@NickA alright
 
Also, RIP, back below 5k from downvoting answers on top of flagging...
 
Zoe
4:58 PM
Oof
 
Which is why I never downvote NAAs. I'm at 23k, by the way.
 
on the site i actively moderate, i have more close votes than any other type of vote, followed by delete votes, then downvotes, then upvotes
 
Do you not automatically downvote everything that you closevote?
 
Zoe
That's not a script, that's just you :p
 
@JohnDvorak if it is already at like -3 or lower, not usually. i can already vote to delete it at that score
most of my downvotes are actually on posts that are posted as answers. that way i can vote to delete them
 
5:10 PM
Whoa. I've just seen an English post on Portuguese SO.
 
5:50 PM
And home, @Zoe I think you have something of mine
 
Zoe
@NickA Nope, not that I can remember.
 
>.>
waves a juicy leg of lamb in front of Zoe
 
Zoe
Ain't gonna work. I just ate c:
 
take it back to your den?
 
Zoe
meh, it's far... and the fridges are full... and the freezers too (it's been a good season, ok? xd)
 
5:56 PM
Full of popcorn you've stolen :P
 
Zoe
nah, I put that somewhere else
I'll give you a hint: It's bigger on the inside c:
 
Oh no, but I don't understand wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff!
 
Zoe
Good!
 
:(
 
Zoe
:P
 
6:01 PM
Nicks popcorn bag from Zoe's back pocket
Hmmm, I just realised, I think nick is only british slang...
 
Zoe
6:18 PM
@NickA Nice try - that's just the decoy popcorn
 
Well, at least I got a regular bag of popcorn, even if not my magic bag munch munch munch
 
Zoe
Wait, back pockets?
I don't have back pockets
 
Do you have any pockets?
 
Zoe
Good question. I'm gonna ignore you for 6-8 while I contact 16 different PR departments to find a response, but fail and just wait 'til people stop asking questions instead. :P
 
@Zoe PR?
Why would you call PR for that?
 
Zoe
6:27 PM
@NickA The response has to be done properly.
 
lmao
 
Zoe
I mean, I can't possibly have anyone think I don't go through multiple layers to respond.
 
If you don't have back pockets where did the popcorn come from
 
Zoe
Maybe I did have pockets, but they were erased by the cracks in the universe. - Zoe's Science Department, Ltd. Inc. GHmb or whatever™️
 
nice
 
Zoe
6:34 PM
@NickA whoops, I have to apologize on behalf of the science department - they were supposed to write in third person. They've all been fired (literally). Apologies for any inconvenience this may have caused.
 
Who was the science department...
 
Zoe
You don't want to know.
:p
 
@NickA have you ever read the book legion by Brandon Sanderson?
 
wim
^ I used to have an emoji picker userscript for chat, it looked like this
 
@wim windows key + ;
 
wim
6:41 PM
Now I want to install it again (reinstalled browser) but I can't find it anymore, searched meta and stackapps and everywhere.. do you know what this is?
 
@Dragonrage No
 
basically the premise is the main character spins up a new personality every time they need to learn a new subject, and has the personality become an expert on that subject
maybe Zoe does the same for their "departments"
 
Sounds like something Zoe would do
 
Hey did the question ask page got reset again?
Or maybe I'm just late
 
there's a blog post about it today
 
6:47 PM
oh wait I just saw it
 
Zoe
@Dragonrage Windows key + .
@Dragonrage nah. Maybe. I don't know, there's a lot of stuff going on in my head :]
 
@Dragonrage I did not want to know this
 
Zoe
@NickA 1903 comes with kaomojis too
@wim 😄
 
@wim ping me if you find it
 
Zoe
@JohnDvorak My last message ^
 
6:58 PM
Saw it just after posting mine. Thanks!
 
Zoe
Np ^^
 
@Zoe wtf are kaomojis?
 
There seems to be missing a list of the last used emoji
 
Zoe
How do you not know what kaomojis are?! (✿ ︣⓪ ‸ ︣⓪)っ🗡
 
@Zoe that also works
 
Zoe
7:03 PM
Semicolon also isn't a key
 
@Zoe i have a semi colon key
 
@Zoe oh that's what they're called
@Zoe you don't have a semi-colon key?
 
Zoe
@NickA nope
 
@Zoe how do you type semi colons then?
 
Zoe
Brackets are also at <C-M> 7-0
 
wim
7:04 PM
@Zoe that's the one, thanks!
 
Zoe
@Dragonrage Shift-,
No problem ^^
 
Shift , is <
 
Zoe
Nope
 
you have a weird keyboardd
 
Zoe
nah, it's beautiful
 
7:06 PM
the two adjectives are not necessarily mutually exclusive
 
in this case they probably are
she eats french toast all over it, it can't be that beautiful
 
Zoe
I haven't spilled anything on it
 
X (to doubt)
 
Zoe
I spilled something on my last computer once. it survived though, but yeahh
Wouldn't recommend it xD
 
cute
 
Zoe
7:09 PM
ikr
 
id take a picture of mine... but im busy ;p
 
@Zoe why are there 4 characters on the key to the right of your space bar, and how do you use all 4?
 
Zoe
it's a scandinavian keyboard layout. Not all of these work, it depends on the layout
software* layout
 
that seems overly complicated
 
Zoe
take a look at the two buttons near enter - it's mapped to three different letters depending on which language
I'm using the Norwegian layout, so ö isn't a dedicated key (but ø is)
@Dragonrage Not really. It lets the same hardware be used in three different countries
... not that it really matters, I only need support for æøå and all the letters used in English and chars used in coding xD
 
7:29 PM
@Zoe pardon the shoddy camera work
 
Zoe
ooh, fancy :D
Full RGB, right?
 
yup
 
Zoe
Mine is too, I'm just too lazy to create something fancier than plain pink :]
 
mines the default swirly animation
 
Zoe
ew, drain?
oh, wait
Different brand, nvm
 
7:36 PM
lmao no
 
Zoe
I have a config called rainblobwave. Aside the pink layout, I use that
 
"Spiral Rainbow"
 
Zoe
Oooh, and the built-in Aqua
It's beautiful 😍😍
 
what kind of aqua is it
 
Zoe
Liquid. pours water on computer
:P
nah, it's a water-like animation
It's like surface water
 
7:41 PM
nice
Zoe... why do you have a "Foodify last message" button? waffles?
 
> æøå
I literally wiped my screen on those words because I thought that something is on my screen
 
Zoe
@NickA blame geis ^^"
or liquid
 
lmao!
thats so good
and why does your keyboard have 3 \ keys
 
Zoe
@NickA Only one works with my keyboard layout
 
7:55 PM
the + one?
 
Zoe
nah, the one to the right of that
 
ah, the weird one
 
Zoe
the one with backslash, backtick, and front tick (is that what it's called?)
 
that's a front tick?
i thought it was a single quote
'
 
Zoe
` back ´ front
' quote
 
8:00 PM
i dont have a front tick key
 
Zoe
It's Ctrl-Alt-\ for me
I love having \ as a separate key though. Really useful with Vim
 
\ is by left shift for me, don't need a big shift key ;p
 
Zoe
This is a gaming-optimized keyboard though
That's why the Windows button is on the right instead of the left
 
gaming optimised?
you have 1 less key by wasd!
 
The only finger that should press the Windows key is the left middle finger!
 
Zoe
8:04 PM
two, actually
 
left middle finger?
i use my left thumb
 
Thumb shouldn't move past left alt, of course
 
but then how do you keep 3 fingers on wasd, 1 on shift and 1 on ctrl?!
 
Zoe
Left alt is ew
Ctrl-Alt FTW
 
i don't use ctrl regularly
same with alt
 
8:07 PM
@NickA when do you need that
 
they're for exceptional keybinds
 
either your crouching or sprinting, not both
 
like once per 5 minutes keybinds
 
custom keybinds
 
I use Ctrl quite a bit
 
Zoe
8:08 PM
Pro tip: if you're on Windows and using virtual desktops, Win-Ctrl-<arrow left or arrow right>
 
ctrl+a, ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x, etc.
@Zoe I don't have much use beyond the Win+directional arrows to snap a window to one side
though I do find it a little annoying that in Win10 it prompts me to try and "choose" another open app for the remaining open space on that monitor
 
Zoe
Oh, those too
 
@Zoe I prefer win-tab
 
just let me snap in peace, Windows
 
Zoe
@TylerH I kinda miss that on Linux
you can just click escape and dismiss it
 
8:13 PM
I also miss the 3d aero flip option for alt+tab on Windows 10
 
I don't but I miss transparency.
99% of the time I switch between windows using the taskbar or by minimizing the last used window.
 
I recently learned that flux adds a Win-Shift-End hotkey
Alt-Shift-End*
 
... or rather, most of the time I just send one window to one screen, and four other to the other
 
Zoe
@NickA End?
 
Yes, End
 
Zoe
8:16 PM
Which key is the end key?
 
Yours is on 1 on your num pad :p
 
Zoe
ooh, that end
 
or in top right of keyboard
 
Zoe
So I should't press the massive, red button that says "END" on my door with a label saying "launch nucl"... Eh, I don't remember the rest
 
Where does it say next to "Target: "
 
Zoe
8:17 PM
Huh?
 
I have a button too, mine has a "Target:" label next to it
 
Zoe
oh, uh, it's set to a dynamic launch
 
It doesn't matter. One rocket flies, everyone dies.
 
@Zoe ooooh exciting
 
Zoe
It either kills us all, or tracks down some user named "Nick A.". Don't remember which
 
8:18 PM
Ah, good thing I don't have that . in there, phew
 
Zoe
Yeah, lucky us ^^
 
dodged a missile there
 
Zoe
Totally :D
 
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