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1:34 AM
Why do I feel like being a apex predator, when I soar over a chatroom, all smaller animals leave :x
Evil is overrated - being evil does not give your super power by itself.
Nothing worse than a dumb evil person - you can be truly evil, but dumb. So none of your evil deed is ever accomplished.
 
 
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6:14 AM
 
6:55 AM
@TelKitty cats sorta are, no?
@SamuelLiew Yes, but if you move the message to a private bin before deleting it, no
Some mods do that for stuff that needs to be well and truly gone or other stuff like privacy violations / outing
 
7:15 AM
@Magisch Yeah, when they want to be. Mine is just good at nudging my face to get me to get up out of bed and put food in the bowl.
and good morning
 
@Gimby Maybe the true apex predator move is to get another apex predator to take care of your every need and shower you with affection without having to do anything
 
Ha ha, you're calling me an Apex predator :) Yes I have epic hunts in the supermarket (and infrequently the butcher).
 
7:51 AM
@Magisch oh like redactions? I already have a userscript for that
can't see those now :)
 
ahh
 
ah I get it. the moving before deletion method will even hide the owner of the message
 
didnt know that existed
yeah
I've even seen mods move deleted messages to a private bin, and then delete the move message
 
either way you can still see the mod which made the redaction, or move + deletion
 
That makes it impossible for anyone else to follow
 
8:00 AM
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
I wan see deleted messages
 
99% of what goes on behind the scenes is mundane and boring
 
@M.A.R. Pff, it was something else.
My life has been changed a little.
 
@Gimby You hunted?
 
@M.A.R. I think we have a total communication failure.
 
It's fatal
We can talk about ice cream instead.
 
8:07 AM
Excellent.
So weegee puts ice cream on his popcorn. How crazy is that?
 
Meh, I never get the popcorn crowd
They probably intuitively understand that popcorn is just fried wood in oil.
So you need something to make it edible.
 
@TelKitty isn't even a common house cat technically an apex predator?
 
They probably are ... I mean, if we ignore the rumours that large birds of prey can fly off with a house kitty or two.
Here is an interesting topic, I think - I like to chase after people to give talks at meetup that I have founded. I think this is when my hunter instinct kicks in. But my friend think it is more of a gatherer behaviour.
First you need to find your targets (knowledgeable people who likes to give public talks), then you strike.
 
8:32 AM
Well historically humans are hunter-gatherers, that is still in your DNA :)
 
see any open world survival game
indulging that instinct is appealing to us
 
8:51 AM
yeah but I don't get it though. I go out into nature and I pick up a couple of sticks and hammer on them with a stone but no matter how hard I try, they don't turn into a structure.
its like those survival games are lying to me.
 
@Gimby I once saw a deer but it didn't automatically turn into meat.
That was a mess.
 
@Gimby What do you mean I can't put 2 sticks and 3 cubic meters of iron on a bench and have it magically turn into a soldered and honed pickaxe?
 
It couldn't be - I mean if you sink your teeth into deer's flesh, it's meat ... if you manage to sink your teeth into the deer's flesh in the first place ...
But if you can not let your teeth to catch up with the deer, well. You know the whole time space complexity thing. :x
 
9:13 AM
@TelKitty before it sinks its hooves in my skull, you mean.
 
@TelKitty I just imagine someone charging at a deer and then biting it flat out
would be an absurd picture
 
Perfect game
 
@Magisch Well I certainly can't! But then again when I punch a tree it does not turn into wooden blocks either, so I am clearly defective.
 
@TelKitty Does it count that I once saw a largish hawk come falling out of the sky not five meters from me to break the neck of a house cat? (But didn't fly off with it.) Never seen it before, or since, and there are lots of hawks circling overhead and lots of cats and kittens around. But this particular neighbor's farm cat had been doing poorly for a long time. Apparently the hawk knew something wasn't right with it and took care of what the owners shoul have had done.
 
@CindyMeister I would have attempted to punt the hawk
 
9:26 AM
Why? It was only doing what it's supposed to do...
 
@CindyMeister So is Magisch ;-)
 
@Druckles zing! :)
 
(I don't actually condone punting hawks btw)
 
o/
 
(or any animal)
 
9:30 AM
@CindyMeister I dislike anyone hurting kitties
if a cat got into a fight with a raccoon and I saw it I would punt the raccoon
 
I've never seen a raccoon... we don't get them in the UK
 
Do they even exist somewhere in Europe I wonder?
 
@NickA lmgtfy.com/raccoon
 
Zoe
steals Nick's popcorn and replaces it with a raccoon
 
@Gimby They're in Germany and parts of france IIRC
 
9:33 AM
@CindyMeister It's not surprising that the hawk has observed the cat for sometime time. Hawks are territorial, so adult hawks should know their territory and all its long term residents (except those that are very small in size).
 
^ nice
 
Wikipedia don't one-box so nice.
Just click it.
 
Zoe
Click it one more time
 
It was too late.
 
9:34 AM
I've obviously seen pictures of raccoons, but not in person
 
Nick had already seen what had happened.
I've never seen a raccoon in Germany :-)
 
@Zoe Takes back popcorn and hands Zoe a badger
(we do get badgers)
 
And I've never seen a badger in the UK.
 
I've only seen one
 
Zoe
@NickA dawwww <3
 
9:36 AM
According to that picture they also exist in the Netherlands :s
 
I find that hard to believe, but it's on the internet so it must be true.
 
No, but I like Nilesy, and indeed have watched him play it
I also thoroughly enjoyed his cat playing minesweeper
 
Zoe
(And no, it's not your friend Rick :D)
 
I was discussing Weebl songs with a colleague yesterday... turns out I know... a lot of them :D
 
Zoe
9:41 AM
Who?
 
Weebl he made the badger song
Among other songs
 
@Zoe Do you like Waffles?
 
Yeah I like waffles
Do you like French Toast?
 
Nick A has multiple accounts confirmed
 
Lmao
 
9:45 AM
@NickA Belgian or potato?
 
Both, I'm British
 
Zoe
@Druckles yeah
@Gimby Pff, Nick wasn't the first
 
@Zoe This is why I answered, Zoe missed the reference
 
Zoe
I prefer 0x9bc7da
 
And I think you'll find my account is 2 years older than yours :P
 
Zoe
9:49 AM
Oh, sorry. I missed a *
I prefer pointers
 
I'm not starring that, you aint getting another star for yet another reference joke
 
@Zoe Blue ones...?
 
Zoe
It ain't a reference joke, it's a pointer joke
@Druckles No, I forgot to dereference a part of my text
 
K, so that wasn't an RGB colour represented as hex?
 
Zoe
1 min ago, by Zoe
I prefer pointers
:)
 
9:51 AM
K, just trying to be clear you weren't talking about the colour of your waffles.
 
blue waffles, ew.
 
Zoe
ew
no
 
I've had a blue omelette and blue banana milkshake before
...
I'll leave
 
Take your mouldy food with you pls.
 
Blue bacon too!
 
9:58 AM
@Magisch This cat (full-grown, so I find the term "kitty" not really fitting) was suffering. It was in so much pain it could hardly walk. The hawk did it a favor - quick and clean - the cat probably didn't even have time to realize what was happening. Trying to capture it to take it to a vet to be put down would have caused it much more pain and stress.
@TelKitty Of course, it's the small ones (mice) it would like to know better... :-) But the denizens the hawks around here have trouble with are the crows. Those can really make a hawk's life miserable!
 
Don't see UK hawks often, but they're great when you do
WHAT is this ad
 
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Wai Ha LeeEvery other advert is 300px wide and fits nicely in the side bar, e.g.: The image used in the Daimler advert is 728px wide: This causes it to overflow out of the side bar, necessitating a horizontal scroll bar on my (1920px wide) monitor: Is this expected? This is on Firefox...

 
Ahah, perfect, thanks ^^
 
I've added a "Room Owner Changelog" section to ChatImprovements
 
@NickA Watching them is wonderful, especially when there's a strong wind :-) There's enough natural habitat here, with enough prey, that we have a number of them in the area. Also owls and falcons. Considering the mouse population this summer, the more the merrier, I say! Foxes are also welcome <g>
 
10:11 AM
 
@CindyMeister We get plenty of foxes, included urban foxes, been within poking distance of several (obviously I haven't touched them though)
 
\o/o\
 
@NickA No, I wouldn't want to touch one! Not only are foxes starting to invade our cities - also wild pigs! (More in Germany than in Switzerland, but I suspect it's only a matter of time...)
A colleague was telling me just this morning, that it's almost impossible to keep a vegetable garden in the German cities, anymore. The wild pigs, as a co-ordinated group, will push down any fence, whether electrified or very solidly built. Hunters aren't allowed to shoot them, because it could endanger people. And shooting at night using night-sight isn't allowed because only the military may use such devices. Talk about a Catch-22...
 
Zoe
@NickA arctic foxes?
 
I love foxes, I just wanna go up and cuddle them >.<
@Zoe No :(
 
10:18 AM
@Zoe Nah, the kind the British hunt with dogs and horses...
 
Just plain red foxes
 
Zoe
We should let foxes, dogs, and horses hunt humans :p
 
@SamuelLiew one of these is not like the others
 
@ZOe The first two might; the last are definitely not predators - just the opposite :-) They'd rather run away from you.
 
Zoe
10:20 AM
Sssh, let me have my fun :')
 
@CindyMeister We have kangaroos, plenty of them on our farm.
 
Zoe
My head is a fun and weird place
 
@TelKitty Because you want them there? Or are they like the wild pigs in our fields?
 
@CindyMeister No, they are the 'original' residents. We bought the farm recently. They can jump over or duck under the fence. Their ancestors probably lived there for hundreds if not thousands of years.
 
Ah, then like the deer and wild pigs...
What, if anything, are you allowed to do to keep it under control?
 
10:24 AM
Challenge them to a boxing match. I'll watch.
 
@Mithrandir <LOL>!
 
@CindyMeister We are not doing much on the farm at the moment, but in the future we plan to build more effective fence.
We only visit the farm once per fortnight at the moment. The plan is to put solar panels on the land to generate electricity.
 
Zoe
@Mithrandir do you accept bets?
 
I like kangaroos, I think they are cute :p
 
@TelKitty So, no farming, just electricity production? Yeah, I guess Australia has enough land and sunshine to make that feasible. In Switzerland I think you'd have to put them on the mountain sides... You'd sell the electricity to the cities, then?
 
10:35 AM
Yes, selling the electricity back to the grid. At least that's the plan @ moment.
 
@TelKitty can these be cuddled?
 
Would consider small amount of farming. But little skill or knowledge as a farmer.
 
they look small
 
@Magisch The wild ones are considered dangerous. But if you raise them from a baby and as pet, you can cuddle them :p
@Magisch The adult ones are at least 1.5 meters tall.
 
@TelKitty The plan is clear them. Raise your own cradle of baby roos
 
10:40 AM
And do what?
 
have roos as pets
 
That would be like ... have giant rabbits as pets ~_~
 
I see only upsides
 
There are poos everywhere on the farm. I literally mean every where
 
If there was such a thing as a 1.5m rabbit, we would have domesticated it by now
 
11:30 AM
@TelKitty Eh, yes, then perhaps better a well-protected vegetable garden :-) Does the land have wells/water?
 
@TelKitty Why'd you buy a farm if you're not planning to farm it?
Just as a house?
 
11:45 AM
@Magisch Why not? Some British farmhouses are some of the nicest houses out there :D
 
11:55 AM
@Magisch because a regular TelKitty needs some space ...
 
12:25 PM
@CindyMeister Locals use pallets to build 'fences' around small vegetation/young trees, you know, the cheap way. There are currently two water tanks + large water containers with water inside. Also collecting condensation from the roof. But if extra water is needed for farming, we would enlarge the collection area on the roof or build a small dam.
@Magisch Umm ... for a solar farm?
 
@TelKitty ahh so you are farming
just sunlight
 
I don't remember the last time I saw the sun...
 
you could also raise and train an army of roos to seize control of australia and then the world
join up with yvette's horse army for added firepower
 
Also occasionally unleash my wildness by running freely on large piece of lawn makes me feel alive & great :p
 
Thats a good point you can frolick through a field now safe in the knowledge that it is your own
 
12:31 PM
@rene Let that 'extra large' kitty sit on that patch of delicate flowers. ~Ah, what a life!~
 
Thats right, you can grow your own patch of rene
 
:x
 
what about raising emus though
I heard they make excellent pets
or silkie chicken
 
:D
 
Raising animal = effort.
We prefer more passive incomes.
 
12:48 PM
Ahh but you don't raise silkie chicken because they bring $
they bring joy to all
 
As someone who has never heard of silkie chicken, I decided to look them up... bad move, I want one
 
If the calculation is right, solar panels would generate 10%-15% return. Depreciation on the panels is 5%. So it's 5%-10% net gain on solar panel investment. Land in good area generally increase in value as time goes by. So positive cash flow + positive capital gain.
 
I don't really want birds that can look me in the eyes
 
@Magisch I do have pet chickens:
 
@TelKitty How much of that is subsidies?
Selling solar power back to the grid brings 0 return here usually
you actually have to pay to feed energy back instead
 
12:56 PM
Had them since day old.
@Magisch We can sell it back at AUD$0.125 a kWh
SO even without subsidy, it should be profitable, albeit slightly.
Electricity is expensive in Australia.
Also many residents here already selling back surplus solar panel generated electricity in small scales.
 
@TelKitty people in my city pay 2-5 cents per kwh they feed back
 
Why do they even feed back then?
 
@NickA I think it's the sixth time they're being mentioned and I Google it
 
<- one of my chicks when younger (the avatar)
 
Meh, that was about two-legged blue tall pussies.
And Sam Worthington
And that guy from Don't Breathe
 
1:03 PM
Taking care of pets = effort
 
Taking care of pests = effort
While you're at it I think even taking care of pesticides is effort.
 
Maybe cut the effort in half by keeping the right pet that eats the pests.
 
@TelKitty but don't you get joy and fulfillment from keeping them?
 
I do of course.
I think it's only fair that I hug and cuddle my pets every day whether they want it or not. Am I a bad person? :p
 
But effort.
 
1:10 PM
@M.A.R. Everything worth doing requires effort :-)
Even cuddles.
 
@Druckles except breathing, it's pretty automatic
 
Given how much you breathe and how long you live, I'd argue it's an awful lot of effort ;-)
 
@Gimby Don't forget beating your heart, I can't imagine manually doing that
 
I have hayfever and a blocked nose, breathing takes effort.
 
Damn, there are always exceptions to the rule
 
1:12 PM
At least more effort than usual.
 
@NickA I wouldn't count pumping blood around your body as something 'you' do.
@Gimby Except this time.
 
Yet you'd consider breathing something you do? You can't pick and choose :P
 
Given that I can consciously stop doing breathing, I'd certainly differentiate between the two.
 
Yeah... I'm kinda glad I can't consciously stop my heart beating
 
In the same vein (not intentional), keeping someone's blood pumping around their body when they're not breathing is an awful lot of work. But I'm sure if they survive, they'd argue it's worth it.
 
1:20 PM
@M.A.R. Taking care of chickens = eggs
@TelKitty Hayfever and you're going to live on a farm instead of in a city?
 
I guess it's a worthy trade off. I'd still take hay fever over toxic fumes.
of course there are levels of hay fever... I've seen people who just get a cold and I've seen people who's eyes are on fire.
 
@Gimby I get both, which one depends on what time of year
Unfortunately I'm affected by evergreens so I suffer all year round
 
1:39 PM
@CindyMeister Weird thing is that, my hayfever does not get worse on the farm than in the city. Maybe I am allergic to particular types of pollens?
@CindyMeister Out of 3 chicks I have 2 cockerels & only one pullet. I intend to keep them all.
Also do you have any remedy for a timid rooster to be?
This little cockerel is the most skittish chick I have ever raised. I have never had a chook that's more scared all the times.
 
@TelKitty Hah! No, my knowledge of poultry is very limited. One summer during my ag years at the university I helped out at a small truck farm. One of my chores was taking care of the animals in the petting zoo. After the owner saw me literally fighting with the rooster the chicken coop was no longer on my "to-do" list :-)
 
I heard that roosters will protect the hens from predators, I suspect that when a predator approaches, he will be the first to run away.
 
Had to keep cleaning up the duck pen, though, which stank to high heaven. The pigs were much neater. The goats were a pain because they were always making holes to climb through, then needed to be rounded up. Ponies, calves, deer - all no problem.
 
There's a chicken on the farm near me who is occasionally on the road
the chicken will not move
2
cars will stop, and the owner will be called to move the chicken, but it does not move by its own volition
 
@Magisch Like the cats here, when the sun is shining on the asphalt in winter...
Reminds me of the car (VW?) adverts on TV a couple of years ago. A British sheep farmer gets a lamb that has "mountain sheep" horns right from the start and is immensly sure of himself. All kinds of funny scenes, the last of which: This little ram stands with the herd in the middle of the road and won't move over... until this make of car pulls up and can over-intimidate him. I laugh every time I see that.
 
1:51 PM
I helped a turtle to cross the road, I am not sure whether I should, but I was afraid that it could run over by a car ...
 
@TelKitty I'm surprised you saw it before you ran over it... Good show :-) If it didn't bite you, I guess there's no reason you shouldn't.
My neighbor has chickens - produces eggs to sell in her shop. They're protected by a very high, mesh fence and they're put into their coop every night. Rooster or no. The foxes and martins here are aggressive and inventive.
 
Could have moved it to the wrong side and it would have to cross the road again? :x Did move it to the side where the lake is, still ...
 
@TelKitty Then you very likely did good ;)
 
<LOL>
 
you'd have done wrong if it was a tortoise.
 
1:56 PM
@Magisch Ah, here it is: youtube.com/watch?v=y8wFhCFRGxU VW-T-Roc or even better, the longer version youtube.com/watch?v=mIx0AoYOJZM
 
@Magisch isnt there a requirement to contain the chickens?
 
@TylerH yeah, there's a coop and a fence, but they occasionally get out
never heard of anyone having a problem, the hens are friendly enough and the rooster is all hiss and no bite
 
@Magisch suicidal chicken
Speaking of a suicidal chicken, there is this new game that looks to be my absolute favorite game of all time for ever and ever: untitled goose game.
that's it - I don't need anything more.
 
@Gimby But they all do, unless of course, you stay away from all the birds.
We feed local birds. Believe it or not, birds that you feed often do have eye contact with you, no matter how brief it is.
If you don't feed them or bother them in anyways, they tend to ignore you.
 
2:17 PM
@Gimby Some forty years ago, my late husband and I went on a trail ride that ended at a farm where they had geese. We were a bit slow unsaddling and everyone else had moved on to the house, when three geese showed up. I turned around, and my husband was standing on the top rail of the fence, the geese below him with wings spread and hissing. I could not believe my eyes! I walked towards the geese, mimicking what they were doing, and off they went.
When I asked my husband - who grew up in a farming village - what on earth was the matter, he said the geese of a neighbor down the street terrorized him when he was a child.
Is your new game something like that <g>?
 
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Q: Can we get an update regarding the closing/reopening experiment?

Script47Half a month has almost passed since the experiment ended and I know Shog left a couple of comments on the post since it ended but it was mentioned that the results would be compiled over the following week yet we've heard nothing at all. Can we get an update regarding it? This question was m...

 
@Gimby It beat links awakening to top game on nintendo store somehow
 
@NickA No wonder. Can you play as a terrorising goose in Links Awakening? I think not.
@CindyMeister Well yes, but you play the goose. You scare people, lock them up, steal their stuff, break their stuff... it's the dream.
 
Ah, good it's been featured... Thanks, @SamuelLiew
 
@Gimby That's an NPC. Link has to attack first, but the retribution is ... disproportionate.
 
2:22 PM
Until you run into someone like me!
 
Hey, it's a picture of me.
Well, about 10 years ago when I had hair and was about twice as heavy as I am now :)
 
 
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3:45 PM
So there's a new blog post about improving asking questions. I mean, I like the improvements, but where was the actual data? :(
 
Why do they all 👋 now
 
@NickA: Waving is friendly...?
 
Is it....?
 
I mean, I'm not sure if you're put off by the emoji or the waving gesture at this point
 
It looks like a slapping hand, I'm feeling u n w e l c o m
 
3:49 PM
@Makoto It was originally the emoji, but thinking about it, I don't wave to be friendly, I wave just to acknowledge that I have indeed seen someone, or to say goodbye while they're driving or something, it's the saying goodbye that's friendly, waving is kinda weird
 
@E_net4theMeta-RemoveR Triggered?
@Makoto It feels fake.
 
@Druckles I am t r i g g e r
 
waves
 
@NickA I don't know how kids communicate these days so I'm gonna remain neutral on that opinion
@Druckles What would feel real, though? A new coat of paint on the ol' bikeshed? ;)
 
@Makoto I try at every opportunity to actually sit down to talk to people, don't like calls, don't like texts etc.
 
3:52 PM
@NickA - fair...but you're online
Your options for communicating are limited unless you spin up a Discord server with voice chat
for everyone
 
@Makoto And probably sitting down.
 
@Makoto Lmao, could do, but not at work
Meta Discord, sounds like a s*** show
 
@NickA It's what I would imagine "weeping and gnashing of teeth" would sound like
 
@Makoto Ironically I have no opinions on bike sheds.
 
@Druckles A wild bikeshed appears! meta.stackoverflow.com/q/386228/1079354
 
3:56 PM
Sadly no-one suggested green emojis instead.
 
@Makoto As for how I communicate online, I use emojis less than my parents, but I do use emoticons :-D :p
 
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