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2:07 AM
This is just... frustrating.

If the number of gpt answer really are decreasing at the rate suggested, it must have been at some pretty insane numbers.

I could sit here and find new cases of users blatantly using chatgpt to generate answers all day if it wasn't so depressing.
> It's really sad that AI generated answers have flooded SO recently. It's even more sad that such answers are sometimes accepted. And it's just simply mean and unfair that you committed it under a question with a bounty... :(
 
HMP is still not visible to me on MSE, but it is on SO.
 
MSE doesn't have HMP
don't think it ever has
 
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Q: How did this question cause me to have a 'history of asking low-quality questions?'

user1345541 I have a question about my Stack Overflow post: What is a div in HTML? I asked that very preposterous question which got downvoted. But that was just a single question. And I already have a message saying: You have a history of asking low quality questions. Please put more thought, time, and ...

 
@NewPosts and deleted posts there?
 
@NewPosts ..................
 
2:21 AM
@RyanM-Regenerateresponse Really? I'm quite certain it used to?
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine one deleted answer, no other questions.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine user account is 13 days old
so....
probably a troll acct given the post they linked to, lol
 
the temptation to go look for socks is strong.
 
Resist it, Anakin! Don't fall to the dark side!
 
@RyanM-Regenerateresponse huh
@Andreasdetestscensorship well, according to SE, mods have already been killing younglings driving off contributors, so it would only be fitting
 
2:23 AM
look at the message, it's not a q-ban.
it's the rate-limit.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Resist it, Vader! Don't fall to the light side!
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idk I mean having asked that question sounds like "a history of asking low[-]quality questions" to mean. A short history, but a history nonetheless.
anyway agreed with Kevin, my troll sense is tingling, yeah.
 
@RyanM-Regenerateresponse You're right.
 
@Andreasdetestscensorship xD
 
@RyanM-Regenerateresponse I have some socks that need washing... Wanna handle it?
 
2:29 AM
@Andreasdetestscensorship Oh, absolutely! As a moderator on strike, I have all the time in the world to take care of your laundry. Just send your dirty socks through the internet, and I'll make sure to give them the utmost attention they deserve. Oh, wait, I almost forgot! I'm on strike, so I won't be doing anything remotely related to laundry or moderation. My apologies for the inconvenience.
 
🧦🧦🧦
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine I was resisting, but my daughter told me I should learn to use discord, so asking for the mod role. so-sr#0038 Thanks!
 
@RyanM-Regenerateresponse :( I'll just ignore that last part, and send them along anyway. :)
 
 
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5:01 AM
le sigh. ok looking for mod role also. Rubio#0015
 
 
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6:05 AM
@Rubio granted; you'll need to accept the terms in #meta-chat-access to access most of the good stuff
@StephenRauch granted, see above as well
 
@Mithical thank you
 
 
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8:22 AM
Agh, the sand, in my eyes, it hurts
 
@E_net4isonstrike It's coarse and it gets everywhere.
 
Sand? Aren't you a crab?
 
Look, it should be expected that somebody gets crabby if they have sand in their eyes. Do you even know how hard it is to remove the sand with claws?
 
@CodyGray-onstrike Yes, I know the irony. Yet here we are.
 
@Mithical I am finally safe! :-)
@E_net4isonstrike Where'd the sand come from?
 
8:28 AM
@CodyGray-onstrike Meta SE
 
"SO mods use footage from camera of poor user E_net4 to broadcast to the world."
 
8:43 AM
:(
 
Did you know crabs across the network rely primarily on "hunches, guesses, intuition, or unverified heuristics" to wipe the sand from their eyes?
 
They also feel pain.
 
Is that the pain from data analysis with a bunch of holes in it and strained conclusions?
Or, how did Oleg put it: "a bunch of graphs smeared together with fallacies"?
 
@CodyGray-onstrike This pain had been felt by everything in universe. Even stones wrinkled a little.
 
9:20 AM
Really it only has two holes, they're just very large holes...
Okay, and one medium hole.
 
What is a jerboa?
 
@RyanM-Regenerateresponse A jerboa
Googled it. It's cute:
OMG, a pygmy jerboa:
 
I doubt your understanding of cute.
 
It's something that has two very large holes (ears) and one medium hole (a mouth). I thought we were playing Jeopardy!
 
9:30 AM
 
> I solved this problem by using utf-16 instead of utf-8. (Solution sponsored by ChatGPT xD)
We are living in quite an era
 
That's a valid solution if the problem is "my file wasn't big enough".
 
9:51 AM
@E_net4isonstrike ... wow... ChatGPT is now sponsoring them?
 
10:20 AM
I had this with an AI-written answer yesterday - it looked great, well-laid out, some helpful code snippets and I was grateful to have an answer quickly so I upvoted it. Then when I tried to actually use some of the code, it was based on references to a property that simply doesn't exist, but I couldn't downvote it without the answer being edited. Fortunately when I pointed out that there was a problem with it they responded with a classic GPT "my bad..." and edited to a different incorrect answer, so I could downvote, whereupon they deleted the answer. The system is being gamed, currently. — glenatron 4 mins ago
Dunno if rep means "experience" or whatever but the user has 10k of it.
 
> Fortunately when I pointed out that there was a problem [...] and edited to a different incorrect answer...
Yeah, that's super fortunate. :-)
It would be interesting to ask users like that, "Considering your recent experience with the answer you received, would you be likely to return this site again for help with future questions?"
 
11:21 AM
More anecdotal evidence that people upvote too recklessly.
 
I mean...
"This looks like a plausible and well-written answer, I think I understand it, and it seems useful"... that's a sufficient bar for upvoting, IMO.
 
12:03 PM
And yet it doesn't work, so...
 
@E_net4isonstrike If we would test every answer before voting on it, I doubt there will be much (if any) voted answers.
 
@markalex Well, if we don't even attempt to, we lose all the credibility of votes.
 
I'm not advocating for blind upvoting, but test every answer is unreasonable, IMO.
 
Judge a book answer by its cover presentation.
I manage to vote on many answers without testing them. I use my knowledge to judge whether they are useful or not.
 
@VLAZ-onstrike- Yes. But some times you can miss some nuance, that invalidates said answer, don't you?
 
12:09 PM
I've never missed a nuance. That I know of.
Once I upvoted an answer by accident, though. Had to get up to get the door, nudged the mouse to upvote, came back and saw the vote. 5 minutes had passed. And the answer was garbage.
Well, I might have upvoted it if half of it was missing.
At any rate, I followed in order to reverse my vote when it gets updated. I can't remember if that happened but I think it did.
 
@VLAZ-onstrike- Lucky you, I guess. But infallibility is pretty high bar to access voting. I'm sure that I've upvoted at least a couple of incorrect answers. It's the same with writing the answer: I'm trying my best to write correct answers all the time. But some times I miss something, and get rather good-loking but incorrect answer, especially in cases where to test provided solution without OP's setup is not possible/reasonable.
 
12:28 PM
@ZoestandswithUkraine Also, considering it's built on my own chat library that has been minimally tested, particularly for reliability, I'm pleasantly surprised it hasn't just died
 
12:51 PM
@Mithical Pinging to confirm my discord message.
 
 
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4:20 PM
@VLAZ-onstrike- confirmed adorable
 
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Q: Do enough rejected edits flag an account?

beedell.rokejulianlockhartI suggested what I believe was a really good edit at https://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/34517650 to https://stackoverflow.com/a/53502745/9731176 which was rejected, and thus I had to split into https://stackoverflow.com/a/76433821/9731176. My situation is identical to Dispute reject...

 
@NewPosts that's a mess
like, before and after
It makes some parts worse (starting numbered lists at 0 is maybe cute in your own posts, but don't do it to other people's posts), fails to fix the atrocious formatting...
and
> I don't want to have my improvement flagged for plagiarism
what?
who said anything about plagiarism?
 
4:58 PM
@RyanM-Regenerateresponse For zero, do yo mean this: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/34517650 Because it changes all the numbers to zero and it's valid. Since Markdown literally ignores these and just autoincrements anyway.
 
@VLAZ-onstrike- autoincrements... from 0. Look at the rendered output.
 
Oops, I didn't. You're right.
Also, yeah, you can set the start number. If you make your list 3. 3. 3. it would render 3. 4. 5.
Also, so much code in there...
So, anybody handling the content disputes these days?
I guess what I mean is - would staff be looking at OP's flag or some non-striking mod?
BTW, this edit seems quite reasonable: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/34514319 same post and the answer author rejected it again.
 
somewhere between some non-striking mod and no one, I think.
@VLAZ-onstrike- How is that an improvement?
 
@RyanM-Regenerateresponse Proper syntax highlighting for the different pieces of code.
 
the syntax highlighting looks fine
admittedly it is technically wrong for the JSON but it still looks correct
 
5:13 PM
OK, didn't check the rendered output. However, I can also imagine the syntax highlighter can easily enter fun mode and decide to use whatever colours it wants. I always find it best to supply explicit language hints. At least unless it's just a mono-language question.
This edit is...correct now: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/34427027 Answer says that PS is not multiplatform. But PS is now multiplatform. Rejected by two normal reviewers.
Granted, I am not a huge fan of altering an answer drastically. But this one seems probably OK. What's the value of leaving the answer wrong?
Lol, this edit is wrong but funny: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/33935106 "significand" is an actual term. Changing to "significant" doesn't make any sense when you read it afterwards. But it's funny.
 
5:31 PM
@VLAZ-onstrike- that question is doubly off-topic though
well... okay maybe you can kind of argue it's about programming
but it's still a recommendation request
 
Haven't read the question.
OK, I did. It's recommendation/broad.
 

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