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12:00 AM
>Daily vote limit reached; vote again just now.
 
 
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Q: Broken snippet rendering

BergiThis question (in revision 1) has a really weird StackSnippet content that doesn't want to display properly. In the question it renders nested scrollbars: Scrolling down to the bottom of the outer container, we find the StackSnippet buttons, which have a broken layout as well: Finally, in the ...

 
 
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3:11 AM
have I missed all the fun again? What the cluster**** is this release of related questions?
 
I have updated my userscript ReduceClutter (install) to move the "Related questions" module back to it's original position in the sidebar.
 
@SamuelLiew nice! gosh, why would they think adding even more things to scroll through was a good idea...
 
3:39 AM
Oh... rather about scrolling, why it's collapsed, making finding possible dupes harder :'(
 
 
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5:55 AM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Let's be honest, SE are really into bloating the vertical size of the page.
In other news:
I can reproduce this. There was a bug report somewhere. I don't know how I can reproduce this. Seems to be happening on MSO but not other sites. Even then not always?
The reason seems to be that there is a script tag immediately next to the menu item and it's set to display: block but I've no clue why that happens. At some point some code must call .show() or .toggle() on it alongside the menu item.
 
6:23 AM
It is indeed that extension. Weird - I've not seen the issue until today and I used the extension for years. Moreover, the problem is only on MSO not on other sites. I tried debugging the code that shows and hides the dialog and it's doing exactly the same thing in both cases. Yet somehow, somewhere, after it decides to show on MSO it also shows the script tag.
Well, I can live with that, to be honest.
It's a minor issue and apparently not related to SE code.
 
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Q: Answers are being removed on stackoverflow.com

Inaara KalaniThe answers on my last three questions on stackoverflow.com all got removed a day after they were received. I hadn't marked them correct because they didn't completely solve the issue I was facing in the question, but they did brought me a step closer to it. So I want to ask if this is a coincide...

 
6:40 AM
@NewPosts ChatGPT. One of the question has ChatGPT attractor bounty.
 
 
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8:32 AM
Just realised something even better about the related A/B test: it was conducted only on traffic from anonymous users. Then inflicted graduated to logged in users. Whereas, I would posit that the two groups: anonymous vs logged in users interact with the site differently.
I mean, I don't think the related questions are useful for anonymous users, either. Not in the vast majority of cases. But there is also something not examined: the A/B test update says that users "engaged more" with the site after clicking through. Which they might because they just find the unrelated question interesting.
And they might find it interesting because often the related section shows a question with the same language tag (so, familiar territory to a user who looks at the current page) but with a lot of votes/views (usually because the question is about some curious feature or something other eye-catching). In summary, click through rate might not be at all related to the original reason somebody landed on a page. Nor is their further activity.
But here I'll channel Kevin B and say it's pretty good activity for serving ads.
 
9:16 AM
> I will vote to close this question because its title is too non-specific to ever be useful for anyone else.
 
9:27 AM
Apparently, not an actual custom close reason (doesn't show in the 10k tools). So, I wonder what they chose for their CV.
 
9:41 AM
Nothing. No close vote was cast.
 
Broken promises.
 
10:17 AM
I mean, that is a legitimate issue with questions.
though it tends to correlate strongly with the problem being what I would consider a typo.
or else just being unclear.
 
It was not the case here. The title could be easily edited to be more descriptive.
 
ah, well. considering the mindset of people who ask the questions in the first place, is it surprising to find lazy (non-)curators, too?
 
10:38 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Q: There is a necessity of using code to summarize a problem in this place?

Darío Ojeda JuradoI have the impression that without an example of code people dont take even 1 second in reading the question. Even thought sometimes what I'm asking cannot be followed by a code block.

 
11:03 AM
@KarlKnechtel Often I see questions which are dupes but the title is in no way descriptive of the real issue. Those I tend to hammer and downvote since the question will never be a good signpost for the canonical. The only way to make it such is for me to edit the title and probably question body to describe the problem correctly in terms of what it relates to. Which means that I have to come up with the sign post, thus it's not organic.
 
In case anyone feels like improving questions: stackoverflow.com/search?q=title%3A%22homework%22
 
The questions being completely useless is...yeah, quite an issue. what is difference between this 2 typeScript code? - have you any clue what "this 2 typeScript code" are? Not without looking at the question.
@A-Tech Also a list of search queries here: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/385424
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Thanks for not letting me down
 
You're welcome :p
 
:D
 
11:56 AM
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Q: Should this question be removed from review queues

Rohit GuptaIs there a better way to mock modules with jest and ESM? It starts with the title as being opinion based. Then there is a question is there a better way to avoid that syntax above every time I need to mock/spy a module function? To me, this is also opinion based. And probably belongs in Code ...

 
12:08 PM
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Q: Why was this pygame answer deleted?

OverLordGoldDragonI need to fix this bottleneck in my pygame simulation What in this answer is worthy of deletion? Looks like a fair attempt at the question to me.

 
> This entire post with all of it's idiotic comments and these 2 egregious "answers", still make my blood boil to this day...
Sir, this is a Wendy's
 
12:44 PM
Oh my. What temperature does blood boil at?
Can we inject a tea bag in them and get some nice tea brewing?
 
oh dear
 
1:25 PM
@VLAZ Vampiric tea break?
 
1:41 PM
Is there a bug report for missing spaces in the bounty notice?
 
Maybe not. Although I think I saw one recently about missing spaces. I just don't think it was bounty notices.
Although, given that it's my memory we're talking about - it may very well be wrong.
@E_net4 I life gives you lemons boiling blood make lemonade blood tea.
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine on MSE
 
I see two questions for two other banners, one of which is completed, the other isn't, but neither of them is about the bounties
@AndrewT. Bleh
How many Stack engineers and how many days does it take to fix a missing space in a notice?
 
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Q: The case of the missing space

Cody GrayThe migration banner has lost the space between its sentences: This happens in both sides, on the target site (as shown above) and on the original site: Please put the space back! Technically speaking, the problem is almost certainly because these two sentences are separate tags in the HTML, so...

 
@AbdulAzizBarkat Not about bounties
... except for a single comment in an answer
 
1:47 PM
It's probably the same bug though showing up in multiple ways
 
maybe. depends on how it's implemented
 
@ZoestandswithUkraine Have all the encoded HTML been fixed yet? Since, what, last year?
 
Exactly the example I was going to use
They broke that in so many places, and just failed to fix it
It's unclear if all instances have been fixed or not, but the reported ones have been IIRC
 
There is also
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Q: SE API multiple-escapes the returned data (at least display names, userlinks, and post content)

Martijn PietersThe Stack Exchange API will, unless you explicitly disable it, apply HTML escapes to certain strings. However, it will apply this transformation multiple times prior responding with the data. This is most easily visible when querying users. For any username containing the letter Ö, such escaping ...

Who knows if it's the same root cause. Probably not. But Makyen says it's been going on for a while.
> This is probably the cause of the major CPU loading issue we've had with SmokeDetector (SD) over the last few months
 
2:18 PM
the related questions box is particularly useful when viewing questions for old languages/libraries
> CSS - IE7 & 8 Issues
 
Are edits by people other than the OP that add code from a codepen or other external site OP had linked okay? I see community consensus on this relevant meta post seems to say it is okay. Is this still the current consensus?
 
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Q: Get current URL with jQuery?

venkatachalamI am using jQuery. How do I get the path of the current URL and assign it to a variable? Example URL: http://localhost/menuname.de?foo=bar&number=0

highly-relevant post
much quality
> This is a more complicated issue than many may think. Several browsers support built-in JavaScript location objects and associated parameters/methods accessible through window.location or document.location. However, different flavors of Internet Explorer (6,7) don't support these methods in the same way, (window.location.href? window.location.replace() not supported) so you have to access them differently by writing conditional code all the time to hand-hold Internet Explorer.
 
2:38 PM
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Q: Flagged a comment telling someone to "learn social skills" as unkind, but was declined

Steve MarooniI recently flagged a comment as "unfriendly or unkind". The comment said something like: "if you are going to correct someone's posts, you should first learn social skills" A little later I revisited the post, and saw that the comment had been removed (along with the rest of the comments in the...

 
3:08 PM
Calling it, comment flag declined by mistake. Bingo!
 
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Q: How to properly handle Azure related questions?

Nico HaaseSince some weeks, I see a lot of questions related to the Azure cosmos, but I struggle to see how they are on-topic for StackOverflow. Some examples: Azure Storage Account mounted in AKS loses visibility into files Problem with binding pvc with static pv in kubernetes Connect private Azure AKS C...

 
4:14 PM
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Q: Related question list is REALLY irrelevant

Gabe SechanI suddenly started seeing a section called "related questions". Now, I'm ok with this as a concept, but the implementation here is picking horrible results. For example, Why should I integrate React Dev Tools?. Question: "Why should I integrate React Dev Tools?" Related questions: How can I s...

 
5:07 PM
It shouldn't be OK (IMO). But technically depends on the license. If the third party site has clear license model which is compatible with SO's it should be acceptable. If the site has a license which conflicts with SO, then only OP can add the code (which implicitly also grants SO the appropriate CC by-SA).
When license is not available or unclear, then the edit by anybody other than OP is wrong, as other users cannot give license permission on OP's code.
 
5:23 PM
@VLAZ Ugh, now we need to become License lawyers as well... Any chance if you know whether MIT license is compatible with CC by-SA? Should such occurrences be flagged or just inform the editor not to do it anymore?
 
MIT - yes
MIT is the most permissive license. It's the closest you have to "Do whatever you want with it, I don't care". It...more or less says that.
But don't really sweat it. MIT is literally the easiest case you have. If you're not sure, it's probably fine to revert/reject such edits.
I doubt many would object.
 
Although it doesn't sit well with me that we allow such edits. It would have been much simpler if we got OP to do these. In this particular case the post I am talking about actually came from the Staging Ground. Personally I would have simply marked it as "Major Changes" but its already been published now.
 
"It would have been much simpler if we got OP to do these." I'm with you there. I'm also extremely uncomfortable with such changes. It is non-trivial amount of work to figure out 1. which license the third party site uses 2. if it's compatible or not with SO's.
And what I really dislike is how any user can do such a change and then others have to pick up the slack of figuring this out. Because so far I've never seen anybody make such an edit and keep license in mind.
Of course, if you object or even roll back an edit, you come off as the "bad guy" who apparently tries to keep OP from getting help... And moreover, OP rarely even bothers with the license, either so they just approve such edits or just comment "Ya, it's fine whatever". Which is quite irritating because this is important. Potentially legally enforcibly important.
But by spending any effort trying to ensure correct licensing is preserved is seen as some sort of deliberate obstruction for the sake of obstruction.
 
5:41 PM
If the OP approves the edit, and the OP is the author, then it's probably legally fine.
That doesn't make it a good suggested edit, of course, since it's only valid if the OP approves it rather than third-party reviewers.
 
@RyanM This wasn't a suggested edit, but that's good to know anyway.
 
Oh, that's...not great. I was responding to "OP rarely even bothers with the license, either so they just approve such edits" in VLAZ's message.
Also I am not a lawyer, this isn't legal advice, etc.
 
That makes two of us, I am not a lawyer either :p
 
But also I can't see "When I, personally, approved posting my code on a site that requires you to license any content posted on it under CC BY-SA, I was not actually licensing my code" being an argument that would work.
 
6:18 PM
That's fairly impressive (timeline)
 
seems they'll be sharing more data tomorrow
 
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Q: Flagged question about auto clicker rejected

Blue RobinThe question I'm wondering why this flag was declined. This post is very low quality-wise. If this post shouldn't be used for this flag, what posts should?

 
 
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7:29 PM
Boson is going to have some downtime later. need to relocate my pi (again)
I've taken all the data-intensive stuff off it, so I don't need to leave it connected to ethernet. But fixing the fallout of disconnecting it is going to be annoying
 
7:40 PM
unacceptable
 
7:58 PM
@VLAZ I think code on SO is actually under MIT license
the general content of posts is what's CC
 
What exactly is the term for "the thing that a Unicode code point represents"? I don't think I want "character" (that could be an entity composed of multiple UCPs, with combining accents etc.), "glyph" (I'm looking for the abstract concept, not specifically the visual appearance) or "grapheme" (both problems, I think?)
 
thing
 
@KarlKnechtel character is the right term
it just means an individual symbol of information
 
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Q: What can be done about people who edit a question in order to make it look like it doesn't belong on a particular site?

iconoclastBackground I am trying to solve a problem related the web app that I build for a client, involving Google Analytics failing to display data. I searched across all Stack Exchange sites and found that Stack Exchange had by far the largest number of questions about Google Analytics. And since GA de...

 
 
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Some people add the MIT license to the code they write, but that's about it
Though the legality of a license notice in a profile is probably questionable at best. Not really my problem, I'm not a lawyer
 
11:45 PM
I think it'd be fine as long as it's clear what the user intended to license.
(and as long as the user has the right to license the material, obviously)
 
Of course the license notice can't take away any rights granted under CC BY-SA, but it could grant alternative licenses in addition to CC BY-SA.
 
Of course, but that doesn't really help if a mostly hidden notice doesn't constitute a valid license addition
also tricky to defend if the user is deleted or self-deleted, taking the license notice with it
unrelated conspiracy theory for the whole related section: what if the clicks came from people who asked the question, and thought Stack was recommending possible solutions?
 
that's certainly some of it
 
Seeing as the recommendations are so bad a literal hamster could do better, a user might click through all of them, artificially inflating the click-through rate while tanking the UX
 

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