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12:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
Pending tag synonyms also sit in an obscure place within the UI (among other issues). If there were a review queue/system for tag actions (like creation) perhaps synonyms could also be evaluated there. That may help reduce the chance of a pending synonym hanging around for ~4 years. — Henry Ecker 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
yeah, brrr, @HenryEcker, a mere thought of the tag synonym system gives me chills :) It is in dire need for rework into some sort of a manageable system, be it a queue or something else. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 22 secs ago
 
12:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
You haven't quoted the comment that you're referring to. Since comments are not visible to users once they're deleted, it's unclear what your question is asking. Please quote the comment in the question. — cigien 33 secs ago
 
1:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
It is very common for beginners to think of recursion that way, because it is common for them to think of calling a function as if it were a "goto". This is especially evident in code where recursion is used to implement a retry for user input in a "menu" (where a while loop would generally be more appropriate); or where functions are used to represent "locations" in an adventure game and "exiting" a location is implemented by directly calling the function corresponding to the "destination". — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Anyway, if it means we get to clean up everything else, I absolutely think there is room on the site for both a language-agnostic canonical, and for language-specific canonicals (mainly so that they can show language-specific syntax) that have the language-agnostic one as a "See Also". — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Since I'm about to get a little windy, here's a tl;dr; of the first things we hope to focus on:" Almost 6 years later, I'm not really convinced that anything ever came of this. — Karl Knechtel 6 secs ago
 
1:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Eventually community would take all that it has absorbed and become sentient, if not for the fact that it's a constant. — user4581301 1 min ago
 
1:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sean
Asking "what have you tried?" is a great way to help train new users to make an attempt and show their work. It should not be banned and I can't fathom why anyone thinks banning it is helpful. — Sean 1 min ago
 
 
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2:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pluralMonad
Would have been nice to get notified that the cv I had saved for years was going to be blown away. Oh well, that is what I get for using someone else's computer for things. — pluralMonad 1 min ago
 
2:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
However much I dislike that SE just decided to throw the Developer Story out along with Jobs, I have to note that you did get notified, @pluralMonad, multiple times. SE sent several email reminders during the sunsetting process. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 44 secs ago
 
 
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4:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel Widdis
@richardec you should post this as an answer since it appears to have resolved this. — Daniel Widdis 31 secs ago
 
4:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Word to Oleg. My comments get NLNed regularly with good reason and I've only been banned once. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Work is a change in energy level. I'm no physicist, but I don't recall time being involved at all with work. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
I only recently saw that this was happening. Unfortunately, everything is on fire right now. I don’t expect I will have a lot of time to help. — BSMP 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
If I've clicked on a featured blog, it was an accident. You could remove that stuff to free up space and I wouldn't complain. — user4581301 38 secs ago
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Thompson
This is so annoying, I saw a question 10yrs old and the only activity had been by the Community Bot but I couldn't see any edits or comments (I'm not digging into Review Queue's). This needs to be addressed. — Jeremy Thompson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by richardec
@DanielWiddis Good idea; done. — richardec 1 min ago
 
5:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Zeitler
Yesterday also seen it having deleted a question posted as an answer, with a completely non-matching close reason... the delete was correct, but the AI needs a whole lot more training to come anywhere close to a human being. — Martin Zeitler 1 min ago
 
5:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@cigien, sorry, I don't have it anywhere either. Is there a privilege to see deleted comments? — The Amateur Coder 33 secs ago
 
5:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob Raymond
rephrasing comment that got deleted. concept that recognition does not matter and hence point new users on how to consider an answered question as a punishable action. The extension of your points really means all tables of top users tables are very dangerous to your aims for SO. A commune of equals should not produce divisions through demonstrating inequality. Very odd as in reality people are different and are not equal. I've never met any two developers with fully aligned capabilities — Rob Raymond 21 secs ago
 
6:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
The comment was: always put full error message (starting at word "Traceback") in question (not in comments) as text (not screenshot, not link to external portal). There are other useful information.Ryan M ♦ 59 secs ago
 
6:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@MartinZeitler Read the posted answer, it was not the AI, but regular user that removed the account in the meantime. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
 
 
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8:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@MartinZeitler the Community user does not use AI to delete content. Do you happen to have a link to the post you're referring to? — Ryan M ♦ 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@user3840170 I've updated with a palindrome example; still reasonably simple code and perhaps an easier mistake to make? — Nick 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@mickmackusa I think the issue is there are too many choices, none of which are perfect. A well-written community wiki Q&A with a simple, thoroughly explained example seems like a better idea to me. — Nick 1 min ago
 
8:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
I'm very much in favor of requiring tag creators to also provide, at least, the excerpt. — blackgreen 1 min ago
 
9:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
This is a helpful comment, presuming appropriate tag context, it describes part of a [mre]. Why do you think it is a problem? Why is its utility not clear from pages at Help center? — philipxy 8 secs ago
 
9:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@mklement0 just in case you missed it turns out we were right after all and the mods issued a general apology (not that it makes up for much). This thread was plain horrible, it felt like the defense of the Alamo... — bad_coder 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@philipxy, because the OP's code doesn't produce error messages. The question is about how to do something and not how to rectify/solve something. It's irrelevant to the post and doesn't help in any way. — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@smci another reason that SO is dropping out of Google search results is because SO allows literal garbage to be posted, and stay up, as questions. Which then gets indexed by Google, causing people to click through, but when they see it's literal garbage they stop visiting SO search results, causing Google to derank SO. In other words, "be nice" is doing exactly what the community said it would and the opposite of what SE Inc. intended... karma is indeed a female dog. — Ian Kemp 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The canonical (e.g., with all the supported language tags and their synonyms). — Peter Mortensen 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"Is there any way to claim bounty in this scenario?" Nope. If the OP "feels bad" they would have to create a new bounty. — Larnu 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by iBug
I have a question → What question is it? — iBug 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
If you actually have a question about your Stack Overflow post, please edit this question to ask it. Otherwise, see I have a question about my Stack Overflow postIvar 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Considering that all your undeleted questions (bar one) have a score of 0 (and the other a score of 1), I would guess you have several deleted questions with a score of <= 0. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user438383
Polite tip: Please run your post through a spellchecker before you post - having questions littered with spelling errors is a sure-fire way to increase your chance of having your posts closed and become question-banned. — user438383 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mansi Raval
@Ivar Yes this does. but I have read through this and I dont think I fall under any of those criteria of ban. — Mansi Raval 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mansi Raval
@user438383 : I have mostly ran spell check and can see that its rarely happens thas someone need to edit my post. except my posts from early days, which are years ago. — Mansi Raval 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
Again, what deleted questions do you have? You can find them through your SO profile, as they count, a lot, towards the ban. Your contributions to the site need to be positive for the site to continue to be allowed the question-asking privilege. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 27 secs ago
 
10:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Mansi Raval: On the whole, your spelling and punctuation are more than OK—much better than the average poster (however, the spell check failed here for experience and invisible). A little more work could be done not leaving out articles. — Peter Mortensen 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ashish Patil
ok thanks for your response @Larnu — Ashish Patil 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
Worth noting that OP is not currently asking banned at all. In either case, deleted questions pasted manually because the script only works on people who are banned: stackoverflow.com/questions/57593332/… stackoverflow.com/questions/56599658/… stackoverflow.com/questions/56444832/cursor-execution-timeZoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Someone has upvoted one of their questions (from 2019) since, @ZoestandswithUkraine , so that might be why they aren't any more; or perhaps they are/were rate limited? — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
In general, the attention is (unfortunately) very low for old questions, whether one week old or seven years old. Thus answering such questions is a long term investment, not something that will yield immediate results. That said, there are many many questions that really do need comprehensive and/or better answers. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
No clue. The mod UI says they're not banned, but that they were blocked around 40 or whatever minutes ago. The UI doesn't say what they were blocked for; could be a post ban, could be rate limiting, but I have no clue. Staff might know, but I highly doubt they'd get involved to satisfy our curiosity — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
Correction: the blocked attempt was 57 minutes ago. In either case, it aligns with the upvote lifting the ban. Incidentally, it seems the ban has been reinstated now as well — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ just now
 
11:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Amit Joshi
I personally participated in burning of only one tag. I participated a little in other tag related activities though. With tags, my personal opinion is that we are allowing to create the problem first and then we are finding it and then we are fixing it; this of-course cannot scale. I asked a question in past about this. Proposal was rejected and yes; rejected for good reasons. I am not sure how we can avoid creating this problem in first place instead of fixing it latter. — Amit Joshi 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mansi Raval
@ZoestandswithUkraine. Ban has been reinstated as people are keep downvoting this question and it’s reached to -7 now. that has now downgraded my reputation to 197 from 305. — Mansi Raval 1 min ago
 
11:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Amit Joshi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
You just got a +100 association bonus rep on the main site. Also, the rep on the meta site is cached, so there's the discrepancy, not because someone is downvoting you 50 times (-100 rep). — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bender the Greatest
I actually support the suggestion that if you propose a tag for burnination that you have to participate in its cleanup. However, that might be difficult to enforce without a way to track who requested a tags burnination and whether they have historically been involved with burns they have requested. SEDE might help here, but I also can see it being another chore to muddy the effort. — Bender the Greatest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"Isn't asking questions also contributing to the site?" - Certainly. Whether it is a good contribution though is not set in stone. This is a site with rules, after all. Both rules for what is allowed, and rules for a minimal quality level. As it currently stands, Stack Overflow gets around 5000-8000 questions per day. That's quite a lot, right? Perhaps more than can be reasonably managed. Today more than ever in the history of Stack Overflow, it is important that questions get asked as a last resort. — Gimby 1 min ago
 
12:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"Is there a policy / process that is much more specific to new users not complying with question answered?" - Nope. But there are other facets where education could be a very useful preventative thing, for example on the act of asking off-topic questions, providing non-answers, duplication or profanity. Comments should not be used for that either though, and that means we have a hole in the system. We can't help others to understand Stack Overflow better, they are expected to find the documentation on their own. Hopefully before they get banned. — Gimby 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
The problem with the required excerpt is that it's easily copy-pasted from an external source, which is explicitly illegal, as it's plagiarism... The reviewers would have to be very aware of how to detect and handle plagiarism like that. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
 
1:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
6. There's no incentive to participate in burninations, other than a mildly warm fuzzy feeling. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mklement0
Thanks for letting me know, @bad_coder; indeed, this post and the loosely related follow-up one were horrible. — mklement0 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JosephDoggie
Generally speaking, management wants one to spend their own time learning, hence the difference in the options. — JosephDoggie 1 min ago
 
1:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bhargav Rao
Eh don't quite agree with points 4 and 5 here, In Apr-May-Jun 2019, we had burninations almost continuously. It is what happened in July 2019, which started the downward trend on the tag moderation, which almost died sometime six to eight months later. — Bhargav Rao 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
"I can see no conversation" - then, assuming they were there previously, those comments have been deleted by a moderator as being irrelevant to the content of the actual Q&A. — jonrsharpe 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ashish Patil
@jonrsharpe , comments were there until today -- because I checked before posting link of question, those got deleted in last 2 or 3 hours. — Ashish Patil 18 secs ago
 
1:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@JosephDoggie I'm sorry to hear if you have had that experience, but it's not at all a reasonable expectation for a company to want an employee to learn some job skill and not provide the time or at least the funding to do so. education in general (e.g. a new degree) is one thing, but an applied skill (like a language or tool) is something that the company absolutely should provide time and resources for if they want their employee to learn it. — TylerH 34 secs ago
 
2:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Undo
"we can ask a Dev to bulk remove the tag and move on" Given our luck recently getting any development staff attention for anything, I somewhat doubt this. — Undo ♦ 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Why wouldn't you take it if you want to? Being employee (currently) or not doesn't matter. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rekire
Stack Overflow is a dead horse. It was great about 5 years ago, but nowadays it become less helpful. I just answer my own questions (since I get no answers) or when I find random a very wrong answer to a topic I know about. So I personally see no reason in helping — rekire 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Normally I try to participate in burninations but have been busy IRL and with other SO related tasks, so that's one user's-worth chunk of effort missing... — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Drinkard
Okay, then it was a bad question then. I thought the emphasis was on currently working developers. — James Drinkard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Campbell
If you have a second, consider taking a look at this post: Should 'Hi', 'thanks', taglines, and salutations be removed from posts?Ian Campbell 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
The 2nd question in the survey literally asked for your employment status, and only a few of those are "employed". — Larnu 1 min ago
 
2:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
Maybe also delete A so it doesn't get used as targeet anymore. — Braiam 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@Undo I freely admit that process is slow, but it does move... eventually — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
 
3:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
And we are, @Cerbrus :) BSOR regularly reviews plagiarism and ensures it does not get through (although there are cases where the license on the external resource permits copying, so not all instances are "illegal", it's still against the rules, yeah). The point being that such a requirement wouldn't change much compared to the current state of affairs, fortuantely or not. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
I think you make a good point. It's not as catchy, but even something like "[$tag] is being retired" would probably communicate the actual intent a little better. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
"removed" is even better, @zcoop98 - if I weren't involved in tags, I'd scratch my head about the meaning of "retired" just as much as "burninated"... — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
 
3:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user202729
@Braiam People with hammer should be smart enough, no point doing that I think. (although probably no harm deleting either except taking meta people's effort, low view count) — user202729 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@Oleg I don’t know what BSOR is nor do I assume regular users acting in that review would… My point is thatadding a review queue is far from a perfect solution, especially on matters like these that require some knowledge and dedication to the quality of the site. — Cerbrus 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by richardec
I'd definitely vote to delete A once it's been closed for a while. While its answers are fine, the question itself is very poor, IMO. — richardec 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
BSOR. Not saying there needs to be a standalone review queue, but at least a requirement to not create tags if you aren't going to take care of them in the first place seems quite beneficial to me. As for plagiarism, speaking from experience as an active reviewer of suggested edits, it happens either way - 1/3 of tag wiki/excerpt suggestions are copy-pasted from other resources, there isn't much we can do about that. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
 
4:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
It is certainly intended as a helpful comment, but why does it need to be written so badly making it really unhelpful no matter where it is posted. There are three sets of parentheses in there, so unnecessary. And what does "There are other useful information" even mean? Was it intended that more information needs to be posted? That is really not helpful. Helpful is actually explaining what is missing. — Gimby 1 min ago
 
4:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@user202729 I prefer not to give the chance to not be smart enough :) — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Campbell
This doesn't answer your question, but you may find What is the Meta Effect? helpful. — Ian Campbell 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
That gives the general jist of why they are unexplained. That being said, you can ask about a specific question and why it's downvoted on meta but you'll need to go into more detail; I've VTC'd this as a dupe as it's not really specific enough on what question(s) you're asking about, and where you're not sure you can improve them. — Larnu 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
"I posted an answer to a question with a link with stuff that helped me" A link to an answer is not an answer. Please see the How to Answer page. — Abdul Aziz Barkat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@AbdulAzizBarkat I suggested specific things which had helped me before and linked to a website I found useful, is that not answering a question? Either way a reminder or something would be preferred over a ban. — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@IanCampbell What you just did, sending a link and saying it may be helpful to an answer is exactly what I did to get banned? — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 - Krabbe mit H&#252;ten
This answer was originally little more than a link, so that voting pattern makes sense. Even after the edits, it's not an answer I would consider great. Also one cannot expect the voters to come back after that was fixed. And in any case, it takes more than one poorly received answer to receive that kind of ban.~ — E_net4 - Krabbe mit Hüten 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@IanCampbell That is due to the fact that I literally cannot comment. Also I included my takeaways from the site and information that was helpful to me which had the same problem. — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
"I suggested specific things which had helped me before and linked to a website I found useful" You suggested "specific things" after you received those downvotes. Your initial answer wasn't more than just "check this link, it helped me in the past: ...". — Tom 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@OlegValteriswithUkraine how you can do that if you don't get privileges? You need privileges to flag to be able to flag. That's simply unrealistic, you simply want people to not get privileges ever. So, no, I prefer privileges not to be tied to actions that don't add value to the site, but simply builds a feedback loop into eternity. — Braiam 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@Tom I provided a link with around 10 possible solutions to the problem. I have seen many other people do this, even on this post was a link that literally said "this doesn't answer the question but here" — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
the fact that other users posted a link-only answer is not a justification for your doing so yourself. Link-only answers are eventually deleted, it just takes time. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Don't use links as anything but supplemental information. the real meat MUST be in the post. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Mine was not just a link, I explained that it was helpful and it was something I had used in the past. Either way I still think a ban from answering is a bit extreme — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"I have seen many other people do this" and those people probably ended up with a ban too; or at least many downvotes and the answer will likely be deleted (eventually). Seeing someone else do something doesn't make it "right". — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
this is what your answer looked like before the edit, @dwahwuiadhwaiudwuhwaiudhwa. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@Larnu, Not really I have seen people with as many as 25,000 reputation. And I was not given a warning or even a notice about the ban until I attempted to write an answer — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"even on this post was a link that literally said "this doesn't answer the question but here"" That was an (automatically) generated comment, not an answer; and the comment is also automatically deleted if the question is closed as a duplicate of said question. — Larnu 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
How many possible solutions that link may contain isn't important. Stack Overflow requires answers to be self-contained. You can provide a link for further information, but the answer itself needs to contain everything required to answer the question. — Tom 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
A ban is the result of a repeating pattern, not a single post. — user4581301 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"Not really I have seen people with as many as 25,000 reputation" If you see such content, flag it as "Not an answer". Reputation doesn't matter: a link only answer is a link only answer and we don't want such content here. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Be aware that deleted content is also factored into a ban. Do you have downvoted, deleted answers? — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
ok, let's reiterate on a thing we keep telling users: we are not a help desk, we are a knowledge repository. Helping the author of the question is a byproduct, side-effect, not the goal. For answers to have lasting value, they are required to contain all content in themselves. Judging by the absense of the Informed badge, you did not take time to read the Tour, and it states it right from the beginning. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Why do you think a ban is unnecessary? It prevents you from posting more posts that aren't real answers, while you take your time to learn what answers are and what aren't. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
Well to just kind of finish this, my other only poorly received answer was an answer to a question that was not very clear and the reply got just as many downvotes as the post, the original post was deleted so if it was not just that one then it was because of someone else who wrote a bad question, it was even deleted I personally don't think that a response to a pretty bad question should contribute to getting banned. but yeah that's mostly it it just kind of sucks I mean I know now but too late to even use the info I learned. — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@dwahwuiadhwaiudwuhwaiudhwa I don't doubt that if you navigate to deleted answer you'll find plenty more answers of yours that contribute to your ban: five 0 score answers and one with -2 is unlikely to get you fully answer banned (though the algorithm isn't public, so I could be wrong). — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Zero is also considered poorly received by the server. I'm not sure what, if any, positive effect comes from answers marked as correct. — user4581301 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Vickel
In general, things are just... slow right now... well this one Closing up shop is waiting since 2018, so are many others — Vickel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"Why would 0 score answers contribute?" Because they do; a score of 0 means that they were not positively received. Though never confirmed, it has been suggested/implied that deleted 0 score content contributes more than undeleted content; hence why you have been asked so many times about your deleted content. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
The point of this site is to have actual good content, not accumulate "meh"-level posts. That is why 0-scored posts count towards a ban. — Tom 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@Larnu if no upvotes means it was not positively received that means if you help a new user and not many other people see the question and that user is happy with the result it still means it is not positive? — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
If the answer was good, you'll get (up)votes from users other than the OP, @dwahwuiadhwaiudwuhwaiudhwa . — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@Larnu, most people are much quicker to downvote than upvote, not everyone just clicks on an answer and upvotes it, if it's someone just looking to answer questions it's not like they know if the answer works or not — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"most people are much quicker to downvote than upvote" Do you have citations for this? My experience is the opposite; not enough people downvote, especially on answers. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@Larnu, I also said this "if it's someone just looking to answer questions it's not like they know if the answer works or not" and even a question that had already gotten an answer like hours later people just downvote for seemingly no reason. and from what i've seen false downvotes don't really get punished — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by walen
I've been a (registered) user for ~6 years and I was TODAY years old when I discovered that "normal" users are supposed to participate in the burnination process. I thought it was just a handful of very-high-rep users and mods kinda "in charge" of that. Could that be the problem: that many people don't know they are supposed to help? — walen 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
You lose reputation for downvoting answers, so people tend to only do it for the really weak or flat-out incorrect answers. — user4581301 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"downvote for seemingly no reason." YOu didn't read the duplicate then; the reason is in the tooltip. I'm just going to disengage at this stage; I'll assume that your lack of response on your deleted answers means you likely found some you don't want to share though. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@user4581301, that makes even less sense to me now. people are losing their own reputation just to downvote a post that is already answered? I dont really get that — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@dwahwuiadhwaiudwuhwaiudhwa posts are meant to be useful for longer than the person who asked it needs an answer. — Kevin B 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@Larnu here ill send a screenshot of them, neither of them I deleted, the main post was and also the one with -5 is the one I was talking about earlier. imgur.com/8XCVZ1Sdwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
False votes, up or down, get you banned. But pretty much the only votes considered false are those lodged as part of an effort to rig the votes, like voting rings and paid votes. Any other vote is either someone seeing a post as either useful or not useful, and there are bound to be disagreements over something as opinion-based as what is or is not useful. — user4581301 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chuck
Yeah I don't know what burnination is. Came to this topic because it's trending on the sidebar. — Chuck 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Voting is a measure of the perceived usefulness of a post. Will the post help future site users? Not merely the current asker, but anyone who googles up the post ten years from now? This is why links are especially bad. Ten years from now a link could be directed anywhere. My general advice is to quote the important bits and summarize the rest so that if the link goes down, the information is not completely lost. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@user4581301, Yes I now completely get that. I assumed it was fine since people had done that on my posts and nothing was wrong, that's my bad for assuming that. I know this now, but it's not like I can even use this information now that I am banned from answering so. — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Software Engineer looking to get into blockchain is a question you probably don't want to touch except to close and delete it. Don't answer questions unless they are asking a single, clear question that has a concrete solution or a small number of equally viable solutions. — user4581301 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa
@user4581301, I mean again I know that now, I just saw a question so I gave an answer, I don't think I should be punished for that. Either way it's too late now because they don't warn or temp ban it's just a ban. — dwahwuiadhwaiu dwuhwaiudhwa 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidG
Ooh, congrats on 100k! — DavidG 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidG
Does anyone have good evidence that burnination is actually a useful thing? I wonder if it's actually a waste of time. — DavidG 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bender the Greatest
One thing I've noticed as a newer burn participant is that some tags require more work than others. QA seemed to get burninated rather quickly, but most of those tags were off topic. As a result, VTC accordingly. Conversely, with both write and writing, many more questions are on topic. This means I can't just VTC with a few clicks; I need to be more intelligent about the improvements that can be made to the post. This reduces throughput, especially when I and others are busy with other things outside of the SO community. — Bender the Greatest 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
@DavidG In some cases, bad tags encourage people to ask off-topic questions so it's better to get rid of them. And bad tagging just makes it harder to find things. — BSMP 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
I'd say the removal of heaps of garbage, cleanup of posts that can be salvaged, and improved connection to experts by proper tagging is worth the effort, @DavidG. And a bit of anecdotal evidence: this time I chose to focus on posts with score 2 or higher and editing, and was pleased to see forgotten posts start to get interactions and even answers. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
Whatever term is used, the request for help needs to be included in the title. "[$tag] is being [whatever] - please help clean up posts". walen made an excellent point that it isn't obvious that the community at large is meant to be participating. There should be an explicit call to action in the title. — BSMP 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bender the Greatest
Cntd: While I agree that burnination is an excellent opportunity to review and curate other content, the concerns about more being asked with no incentive are also very valid points. As we edit questions to remove tags those q's will get more visibility anyways. Others watching tags on those posts may be able to make additional changes rather than having curation be a goal of burnination. After all, the end goal of burnination is to get the bad tag removed. Everything else is a nice to have but I don't think the community has the steam to burn at a good pace with the current requirements. — Bender the Greatest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@BSMP but that's not fun, — Kevin B 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bender the Greatest
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Along the vein of what I posted around your last comment, as you noted editing the posts gets them more visibility and some long-forgotten questions start getting answers. The additional visibility may get others who do watch the other tags on tag-burned posts would also be able to make additional improvements to the question as well. — Bender the Greatest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
How long would this display for? Would it be time based or event based? I don't necessarily like the idea of needing to accept an answer to clear this banner. Not all questions need to have an accepted answer. It can also be confusing when questions have several different approaches that all work (as an example). — Henry Ecker 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Connor
@Cerbrus Ah yes, because your internet points aren just a proxy for mild warm and fuzzies. — Connor 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Side note: please check out meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/255644/… for your future EDIT: to UPDATED: posts with HISTORY: information. — Alexei Levenkov 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
I would also add to this banner a mention about posting "thanks" as a comment. Tell them not to do both. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeff Bowman
@Dharman Adding "don't post thanks" is absolutely in scope; I omitted it in my example for brevity but I'm very open to add it. — Jeff Bowman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bender the Greatest
Nitpick: I would argue that the term "burninate"'s origin is not exactly obscure, considering how popular Homestarrunner used to be back in the day. A sizeable portion of today's tech workforce grew up watching these. I get that Trogdor/StrongBad/Homestarrunner may no longer be modern, but that's kind of like saying "Gone With The Wind" is an obscure movie because only your parents watch it. — Bender the Greatest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeff Bowman
@HenryEcker As in Advantage #2, dismissal could be both time-based and event-based: either you accept on any of your questions or it ages out. The trick with a time-based dismissal is that some askers might only return to SO after a month or three, and those are also folks who we'd want to see a banner. Ultimately if the banner doesn't go away automatically I don't see it as a big downside: nobody else sees it, it's not as intrusive as a ping/notification/email, and a well-phrased nudge says that the asker may accept the answer without suggesting it is required. — Jeff Bowman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SovietFrontier
It was a legit website that had really well explained instructions. It was the coolest thing I have seen to date. Some sort of education website. — SovietFrontier 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Campbell
@BendertheGreatest I disagree. According to the Developer Survey, over 2/3rds of developers are under age 34. That episode was published 19 years ago. Making the oldest individuals in that demographic 15 years old at the time. — Ian Campbell 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bender the Greatest
To be fair, what burnination is is covered in the FAQ, which linked to in all stage two and higher burn posts. Don't take away one of the only fun things about this process (we already lost punny titles for stages 2-4, and renaming back to the punny title upon completion is not a requirement). — Bender the Greatest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Campbell
@BendertheGreatest Yeah, the punny titles are basically the only redeeming quality. RIP — Ian Campbell 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight
7. Without the featured meta posts we had a few years ago, I wasn't aware the burns had ever restarted. — Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Campbell
I'm not sure that this would be a very useful feature. Not everyone bookmarks common duplicate targets, so this reminder would be out of place for those users. — Ian Campbell 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by khelwood
It is exactly what I use bookmarks for. — khelwood 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
What else am I supposed to use the bookmarks for? o_O Alternately, how else am I supposed to find my common dupe targets? The general search rarely works right. — Karl Knechtel 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Again, my point ia that reviewers need to vigilant against plagiarism, because it happens that much. — Cerbrus 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@Connor you don’t get internet points for burninations… — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
I can only speak for myself. I used to participate in burninations and don't any more. I was happy to do some grunt work when I believed in the future of the site. I don't any more. — Michael 1 min ago
 
6:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
This particular question definitely smells like a voting ring, but note that requests for official resources are on-topic. — John Montgomery 31 secs ago
 
7:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564 stands w. Palestine
If we give the asker a button to manually dismiss the notice (could be simply a simple X or something more explicit like "I'm not satisfied with the answer(s)"), there will be no need for a time-based dismissal. Then, whether or not the system should re-show the notice if the question gets another answer may be discussed. On one hand, it's a reminder because the OP technically still never accepted an answer before, but on the other hand, it might come off as a little pushy. — 41686d6564 stands w. Palestine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bender the Greatest
Honest question; unless a post uses language that I recognize from some public source without attribution (which may or may not be another question on Stack Overflow), how am I supposed to identify plagiarism from works I am not familiar with? — Bender the Greatest 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@mklement0 that post is an old SE trick, not to call someone names directly instead calling their post names. It is a CoC violation, the contact form has to be used (although in the past staff might have tried to also whitewash things). E.g. Turd polishing was abolished with the VP's support, as a consequence of this post with some mods very much in favor of verbal abuse. — bad_coder 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Most plagiarism is easily found by just copying the text into Google, surrounded by quotes. — Cerbrus 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@mklement0 it reflects a longstanding state of things, that abusive mods with a small fan club of users will publicly abuse people and get away with it consistently. It usually starts with one of those users most set on buttering up the mods and sucking up to the establishment consistently abusing one user in the comments with the abused user getting all their NLN flags declined. There are a few regulars that live for that kind of stuff on a daily basis. But you know what, we defended the Alamo and Cody was proven wrong all along the line we won 1:0 that's to our credit and their discredit. — bad_coder 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@mklement0 and once they know you don't bend and that you're not a sell out, then they get really mad. Because you're a reminder some people still have integrity and a spine to go with it. — bad_coder 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
Speaking from experience, 99% of the time, plagiarism (or just "copied content", if we use a less condemning terminology) is very easy to spot: it usually checks a couple of points: the text is usually disconnected from SO (f.e., no guidance, no properly formatted links) and/or reads like a sales pitch (granted, there are a couple of unicorns that seem to actually write everything as a sales pitch, but those are rare). cc @BendertheGreatest — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
or... you know, just another user spewing misinformation and claiming, even among overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that it's correct. ;) — Kevin B 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bender the Greatest
@Cerbrus While I agree that catching plagiarism is definitely something that should happen, I think expecting reviewers to copy/paste/search every paragraph of text in a post they are reviewing is a bit much. Searching the entire text body is probably a bit more feasible, but would only catch exact word for word copied posts. — Bender the Greatest 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
That is indeed interesting to know. So far I haven't had a use for bookmarks, but if there's such a search specifically for it... — MisterMiyagi 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
I would also be interested in third-party scripts for this purpose, assuming such discussion is on topic on Meta. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
"There's no recognition or glory for doing this kind of work, and it is quite labor intensive" remove the intensive labor and you will see many more people participating. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
Feel free to post a script-request on Stack Apps, @KarlKnechtel - we usually discuss creation of userscripts there, and I am pretty sure such a request would be welcomed. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight
Especially for beginner questions in common languages, I'd prefer language specific dupe targets so we don't end up just swapping "I don't understand how feature X works" problems for "I don't understand the syntax of language A". I'm not opposed to having both language specific ones and a language agnostic one - especially if the former are created by taking the agnostic one and swapping the code to the target language, but think language specific ones are better where available. — Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight 1 min ago
 
7:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
Yes, I think we agree on that, @Cerbrus :) Just noting that I don't think it would be that much of a problem if users were required to provide both excerpt and a wiki, besides, dealing with problematic edits is quite easy - we already do that on a daily basis. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@Braiam: Not really...I think we're still intrinsically motivated by some kind or recognition from someone - if not the community then maybe the benevolent dictators that we're still beholden to. Maybe some of the disconnect (at least from my perspective) is that said benevolent dictators have taken our participation for granted and have not circled back to work with us as was promised to us time and time again. — Makoto 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight
@Braiam the most labor intensive part is fixing salvageable questions that need more than just a trivial tag change. Unless SE can get Google, etc's AI research teams to help out I don't think that's feasible to automate. — Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
@BendertheGreatest yeah, true, I also agree with your point that editing salvageable posts requires quite a thoughtful and much more effort-demanding approach than just removing the tag and move on. As for curation blocks - yes, we could definitely use some improvements in that area, but most of such improvements require SE, Inc. involvement, so... we can dream, though :) — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeff Bowman
@41686d6564standsw.Palestine I did think about that, but then we're adding database state to either the post or the account, which would surely increase the implementation cost. Also, if this notice stays answerer-visible, then the answerer would potentially get to see whether the asker dismissed the box, which seems privacy-violating. I figure that if we don't give a dismiss box for the closure notifications even for answers that will never be reopened, then we can omit a dismiss box for askers who have not and will not accept the present answers. — Jeff Bowman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
Just FYI: There's only one suggested edits queue per site, so trying different posts isn't going to give you any different results than trying on the same post at a later time. — Makyen ♦ 59 secs ago
 
8:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Makoto when the objective was simply removing the tag, we managed to process several questions a day. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@DanIsFiddlingByFirelight Actually, doing exactly that helps already. There has been plenty of times that I pushed something for a "trivial change" and then it was answered, closed, further edited or upvoted. Don't undersell the power of the active tab page. — Braiam 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@Braiam: Never in the history of ever have we just made edits that only removed the tag. The guiding advice was to always clean up the post as well as remove the tag, since there was a virtually guaranteed chance that this question wouldn't see the light of day for some years, so it made sense to (and was consistent with our manifesto of) make substantial edits to posts. — Makoto 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by andrewJames
What is Rodgort? — andrewJames 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@user4581301 "If I've clicked on a featured blog, it was an accident. You could remove that stuff to free up space and I wouldn't complain." I have a userstyle that does thatVLAZ 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
Done, added a link to the dashboard, @andrewJames. Rodgort is a SOBotics initiative that helps track burnination progress, zombie tags, etc. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 15 secs ago
 
9:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@Braiam: Hmm. Fall 2014 looks about the time when I was really engaged with the community and was paying active attention to the norms of the site and looking to make a difference, so this is probably when I took that advice to heart. However even before that, edits still had to be substantial per the guidance on the privilege itself. That guidance still explicitly discouraged "trivial" edits unless you were trusted, but even then you were always encouraged to improve as much as you could with a post. I mean...why would you bother editing a post otherwise? — Makoto 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
There's no direct causation between rep and familiarity between the system, but it does serve as a useful gate to reduce the frequency of the occurrence, and thus the frequency of problematic occurrences. Granted, putting a more robust gate in place like your daydream section suggests would be far superior to a simple rep-only gate. — TylerH 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
You'd need to edit this question so it follows the steps in meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/252944/…Robert Longson 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
Oh, couldn't agree more, @TylerH. It serves some purpose, I can give the current system that (at least it saves us from crestion of "hashtags" en masse by users completely new to the site and incapable of reading and following a single rule). Just wish we had a system where relevant actions grant relevant privileges as opposed to braindead exp accumulation (we could literally go comatose and crawl to the next privilege level just by vurtue of existing contributions)... — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 13 secs ago
 
 
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10:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@DanIsFiddlingByFirelight I imagine the language-agnostic versions not having code in them, but simply describing how to write the code in simple (but technically precise) terms. Naturally this would only apply to questions where such an approach is feasible. — Karl Knechtel 36 secs ago
 
10:59 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drew Reese
@andrewJames Probably a play on Trogdor? — Drew Reese 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
@Makoto you still make an input to the site even if you've become disinterested... because of understandable reasons. — Jon Clements ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
I think what helped when I teamed up with BR/the SOCVR room etc... we also had Shog... so we could draw a line and just say - "yeah - that's enough effort - let's nuke it"... I think we're working on getting that back — Jon Clements ♦ 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
There are lots of uses for bookmarks. For instance, they can be used as a queue, for instance, for things to do on Stack Overflow. The queue can be used to rate limit yourself to not burn out (for instance, "I will do exactly one queue element per day"). Note that bookmarks now work such toggling one off and then on again will send it to the back of the queue (start of the list if sorted by "Added")—that wasn't the case for many many years. — Peter Mortensen 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
@DrewReese yes :p — Jon Clements ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Why do we need so many "debugging" tags? Using two tags instead would be simpler and require fewer additional tags. — Tom 1 min ago
 
11:39 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
Why should questions about Visual Studio Code debugger be retagged to visual-studio-debugging? VSC is a very different product from Visual Studio. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Same intent (talking about the future): I appreciate all the following help!!. I don't know if it is on Stack Overflow or not. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 

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