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12:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user1280483
I disagree with this. In most cases, you should be writing an answer, but there are some cases where it is clear that the question will be closed, even though the answer is simple and one comment from you will fix the whole problem. — user1280483 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by HeavenlyHarmony
I have put a few bounties to some questions that got no answers. But interestingly, I always got my reputation back. I wonder why that was, if they were supposedly non-refundable. — HeavenlyHarmony 33 secs ago
 
 
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1:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
To clarify, are you asking about why your specific question on main was closed, or do you want to discuss why other users are allowed to close your question? These are different issues, and it's unclear which one you want to discuss. Note that if it's the latter, there are many duplicate discussions about this already on Meta. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Silly Dude
I want to protest against the closure of my question. — Silly Dude 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Ok. I've edited the question a bit. A bit of advice: it's preferable to ask for feedback rather than asserting that the closure was wrong. It's also not productive to claim that users voted to close without thinking, regardless of whether that's true or not. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JK.
Your question is clearly expressed in an opinionated way. If you are not asking for opinions then you should not write it the way you did. Listing the pros of A and B and asking comes off as asking for opinions about A vs B. If you just wanted to know if the underlying layer already compresses, then just ask it. Be direct and simply ask your question outright. Don't beat around the bush. You instead asked "Is it a good idea to .." which is 100% an opinion. If you delete every thing except the last sentence then it will not be asking for an opinion. The closure was correct. — JK. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by charlietfl
Also worth noting that there was not singular "someone" that closed it. Three people , all with rep over 20K, voted for the closure. A significant percentage of "what is the best" type questions are opinion based and get closed daily — charlietfl 8 secs ago
 
2:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
[ Boson ] New comment posted by justANewbie
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
I'm not entirely sure what you're asking here. Rude behavior is not acceptable, and such content should be flagged, as you have done. If you think there's a pattern of problematic behavior, you need to raise a custom flag and explain the issue. If all you've done is flag comments as UU, that's not going to have any effect other than to delete the comments. — cigien 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by justANewbie
I also saw and flagged the comment. Sorry about what you have to see. Anyway, because you're an >10k rep user, I think you can raise a custom flag. Not sure though. — justANewbie 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
@justANewbie You don't need to flag the actual post where you saw the behavior. You can flag any post by that user (or even a random post if they don't have any), and explain the issue. Provide as much evidence, along with links, as you can, and that's fine. So basically anyone with the flagging privilege can do this, not just 10k users. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 0___________
@cigien I will see. Raised the custom flag. But maybe only numbers matter — 0___________ 1 min ago
 
2:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philippe
@Nick - I should have said it clearly here: we are rolling out a new article proposal flow that opens up article writing to all collectives members. Does that help to address your concerns? — Philippe ♦ 1 min ago
 
3:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@0___________ all numbers but 0 matter :) - to my understanding most "rude" flags are essentially handled by users (really bad comments get enough flags quickly for removal), so raising custom flag will bring attention to particular user even if moderators did not get involved in original "rude" flags. — Alexei Levenkov 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Félix Adriyel Gagnon-Grenier
Not sure if that counts as deserving a whole answer, but I don't think I'm reading guidelines as to the allowed proportion of opinions featuring in articles? Are articles free from the whole "we don't generate opinionated content" thing? — Félix Adriyel Gagnon-Grenier 40 secs ago
 
3:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Side note: "sockets" are not limited to Windows, C# is not limited to Windows and not the only language to use sockets from. Based on your question here and comments on original post somehow you assume "I'm using sockets on Windows using C#" is the first thing that comes to mind when someone says "sending data via socket across" - I would never guessed that you are asking about Windows or C# based on the question... and I'm sure I'm not alone thinking Linux/Unix with C/C++ would be more natural assumption. — Alexei Levenkov 18 secs ago
 
4:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
This raises the constructive perspective of explicitly mapping the articles' rules to the existing Q&A guidelines. I suppose some are in the MSO FAQ index. — bad_coder 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
 
4:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Silly Dude
Is StackOverlow a website that people seeking help must undertake a five-day course on how to word your questions, before they can ask, for help? Does a question have to be so perfect? Is it a step too far? — Silly Dude 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel Widdis
I appreciate the openness and transparency of this post. What I'm missing is the connection between the for-profit business and the expectation that an all-volunteer community will contribute all-volunteer time to help a for-profit company without any compensation. SO is the way it is because of community, voluntary, involvement. Spin that off? Great! Spin that off and expect volunteers to continue to give you free labor as you profit off it? Not so great. Any forward-looking profit-making venture must factor in paying for your curation staff. — Daniel Widdis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
If the question is set to be closed, that implies that it shouldn't be answered @user1280483. This means even in comments. — Makoto 6 secs ago
 
5:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel Widdis
Thanks (at the risk of this comment being deleted) for the transparency and acknowledging the gaps. Gap #1 is probably the biggest one -- you mention moderators but it's bigger than the diamonds. It's many of us who volunteer our time to moderate and curate. You can't expect volunteers to help moderate your for-profit community. — Daniel Widdis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JK.
We can't read your mind. We can only read your words. If your words are asking for an opinion, then the question should and will be closed. If you did not intend to ask for opinions, then don't ask for opinions. — JK. 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Silly Dude
But I was not ask for opinions. I didn't know what happens underneath my code in C# and the Windows. I was waiting for someone to tell me the "Windows already compresses" or "based on my experience the current networking bandwidth and speed is so big that unless you are sending GBs of data there is no need to compress". Isn't such knowledge beneficial to others? Yes obviously you guys have all been masters in this website and you guys can impose your rules on us but really? What you guys are doing in this case is absolutely and indisputably beneficial for the millions of readers? Absolutely? — Silly Dude 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joundill
@bad_coder Don't get me wrong, I'm still opposed to this idea of collectives and articles. I don't see how they fit into a Q&A site. But yes, if we're going to have articles they should at least follow the existing rules. — Joundill 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Indirectly. Posting a bounty might attract more views, which increases the "people reached" stats. Read here for how it's calculated: What does "people reached" signify and how is it calculated?Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
Setting aside for a moment if we're in favor or against collectives/articles, I'm still trying to make up my mind if the FAQs (see the MSE FAQ index that's even more extensive) are actually structured enough to allow a mapping? I suppose they are the result of a long community refinement, so what strikes me as most noteworthy in Philippe's post is the attempt to formalize rules from the outset with the effort of organization being lead by the company. (Formerly staff also had an active voice but the definition of policies was more iterative over time.) — bad_coder 1 min ago
 
6:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by QHarr
I would like to recognise that, whilst not perfect, this communication is still headed in the improving direction. — QHarr 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
 
6:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by eis
@Nick "IMO, the "Please check out Philippe's post to participate in the conversation." needs to be far more prevalent in this post" why? If you know already these things, fine, but there are certainly others who don't. I think the point was so that people would read this text before jumping to Philippes post, so it was kinda the point that it isn't more prevalent. — eis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by eis
so... you have a big issue in that it doesn't say loud enough that it's sponsored. have you weighted the pros and cons about if it would, or are you just ranting that you feel it should but it does not behave in the way you would want? If your primary issue is presentation, what kind of presentation are you expecting? — eis 43 secs ago
 
6:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@SillyDude -“So, is it a good idea to compress?” - Most definitely is asking for the community’s opinion on a subject. — Security Hound 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
I feel like this addresses the soul of the community here very well. Never underestimate the value of joy (just look at how much political capitol dark mode generated). — Travis J 46 secs ago
 
6:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@MegaIng "..and some users [..] don't want to acknowledge that SO has to cater to investors and make money somehow.." That's fine. I really acknowledge that. It's just that I don't have any financial interest in the company. I'm not a shareholder or an employee. If SO gets more profitable somehow I don't see a cent from that. Therefore I can purely look at how useful a feature is for me and nothing else. I understand though that everything in life is a trade-off of some sort. It's nothing personal, we all optimize but for different goals. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@eis Transparency is generally a good thing at least in the long run. If people realize at some point that something isn't what it promised to be, they tend to become grumpy and might just turn away. — Trilarion 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@eis The problem is that it's deliberately misleading. As Kevin points out, Collectives do almost none of the things they are presented as. The initial blog post speaks of companies having desire for "deeper interactions and provide a better experience to current and potential users of their products" but I've seen none of that. Right now Collectives is mostly a flashy icon, a leader board, the label "recognised user", and articles that apparently nobody actually knows the reason of. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
In the most direct way I can think of to say it, I want honesty. We live in a world of marketing, where the best way to drive profits is often through full on misinformation. The community here is one that can recognize it, likely more than any other community out there. Respect it. Use it. Make the fact that the company is paying to provide the service a selling point rather than an unspoken side effect. — Kevin B 44 secs ago
 
7:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@Trilarion Because people are stupid. — Ian Kemp 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Failed Scientist
What does this "for profit" company has on offer for the contributors?? — Failed Scientist 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Failed Scientist
When she talks about quality "Stack Overflow, as a resource, is only viable if the quality of the objective content is extremely high, better than anywhere else.", does she indirectly infer that all those 12/13 years of SO had just ok/not HQ content? Reminds me of a Persian quote: "Defending a crime is worse than committing it.". SO is building on free contributors to gain profit and that's not OK!! — Failed Scientist 1 min ago
 
7:44 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
You appear to have posted the same answer twice. — cigien 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Leffler
This looks like a duplicate of this answer. Please remove one of them. — Jonathan Leffler 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@cigien and Jonathan. Thanks a lot for reporting. — Trilarion 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
Improving and involving content by editing is an important part of Q&A. Here there is nothing about that for Articles. How is their content kept uptodate? Will editing of Articles be possible? — Trilarion 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
Not only competing answers are missing from Articles but also the ability of collaborative editing (at least currently). Otherwise we could simply add alternative solutions to the Article. It could be combined question and multiple answers. Then we would only lose the ability to vode on the best solution. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
This brings us to the question: what can SO offer the users that the non-profit open source alternatives can't? Why exactly should we be using this platform? It holds value to me as a user to support non-profit communities where I can actually affect the design and features of the site. I even donate money to them. Whereas I have absolutely no interest in unpaid volunteer work for the purpose of making some private company stock owners in USA rich. So why exactly should I be using this site? Will you start paying us, or what's the long term plan here? — Lundin 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sayse
You say "We cannot compromise on quality" and yet thats exactly what the collective posts I've seen so far have been. I hope this is something that is going to be monitored and not like the time you said "We are encouraging employees to be active within the community" — Sayse 48 secs ago
 
8:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by eis
To some degree, marketing is meant to be misleading in the sense that it's supposed to present things in an appealing manner. I don't see anything blatantly dishonest here, and I'd be interested to know how would you market it then. But this is just my personal opinion and I'm not in any way affiliated. — eis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
Advice on what to do when you encounter a plagiarized tag wiki is at the bottom of the FAQ answer. — Jeanne Dark 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I’d like to think I’d approach it from the perspective of… this is a thing we the community want businesses to come here for and sponsor to keep the lights on, and to know the funds are going not only to keeping the lights on, but improving the community we’ve built. Companies should want to be seen supporting this community and being a part of its future. — Kevin B 23 secs ago
 
8:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
My fear, or worry, is that it’s too late. That the investors that SO chose to sell/become beholden to aren’t interested in such a community. That they’d prefer it be sold and make a quick buck on our efforts. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
In case of a dispute between the author of an article and a client company — aren't only Recognized Members and Collective Employees able to post articles? Then the client company has always control over who can post articles, and can autonomously sort out issues in that regard. — blackgreen 54 secs ago
 
9:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@Lundin "Why exactly should we be using this platform?" Typically it's a combination of two factors. First, they are the biggest such platform and have a known brand name. You have the highest chance to find experts here, some kind of size advantage. And second since they have revenues they can provide a reliable service over time. Not saying this is decisive, but surely quite an advantage. — Trilarion 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@KevinB "...make a quick buck..." First you have to achieve that actually. It may be harder than anticipated. — Trilarion 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
After re-reading the rules I wonder where the difference to Q&A is really. It sounds so similar. The major difference may be the length, but then you speak of splitting articles if they are too long. Maybe as a commentary to this, could you add a little section on when writing an Article would really be preferable over writing (potentially self-answered) Q&A? That would probably help in getting to know the feature better and to guide potential content creators. — Trilarion 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
@NotTheDr01ds the guidance does not say "close that as off topic" but "grey area, use judgement"; so that contradicts your conclusion to close everything that's not "unique to software development". To give another counterexample, VCS such as git can be used for a lot of things that have nothing to do with programming (e.g. for authors writing a book or scientists writing a paper), and for most git questions it does not matter if the checked-in content is code or cooking recipes. But just because I can create a git repo of cooking recipes that doesn't make all of those questions off-topic. — l4mpi 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@FailedScientist "..building on free contributors to gain profit..." I'd say that this is actually okay. People volunteer here with their knowledge and there is no reason to assume they are not aware and fully okay with their produced content to be monetized in any way the company sees fit. There are people with a million rep and thousands of hours of work writing answers on a website that belongs to somebody else. They have probably decided that the risk that their work is "misused" and that others profit from it is still worth it. — Trilarion 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
You can flag before share feedback. Also, when you flag for spam there is downvote. And when you share as "Too broad", it's exactly the explaination of "need focus" question. I understand that custom feedback don't create flag, but some choice should do -for me- — Elikill58 1 min ago
 
9:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
@PeterMortensen - Yes, indeed. Both of those :) Suspensions and their durations are judged on a case-by-case basis by the individual Moderator, or by a group decision if warranted. — Travis J 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
I disagree, it is not asking for opinions. It is instead a very, very, VERY incomplete question. You can only answer if it is a good idea or not if you know the context - what data is going to be sent, what are the performance characteristics, what are the minimum requirements, etc. etc. This is not a generic yes or no question, it is an "it depends" one. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
(and when you know the context, you are not going to ask this question. You are already going to know if it is a good idea or not because there will be no doubt about it, so you will be asking HOW to compress, not if to do it) — Gimby 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
How do you get to show "IMPACT"? Isn't it only under "Stats" on the user profile? — Peter Mortensen just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Trilarion That argument is kind of like saying that I should drink Coca Cola instead of water because it's a big and well-known brand, whereas my local water supply is a non-profit venture ultimately controlled by democratically elected local politicians. As for experts, my question is exactly that: why should the experts stay at this site? We end up with a strange circular argument if we say that the experts should stay because the experts are found here. — Lundin 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
That user was suspended, so I suppose you got what you wanted. :) — E_net4 the curator 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@Lundin It's not so strange. Because of its size this place here exerts some kind of gravitational pull on experts. They think that this place is somehow better than others, otherwise they wouldn't be here. Probably has to do with the size. Isn't this a well studied phenomenon that there are scale effects in economy? — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Trilarion Mostly they are here because there were no good alternatives for a long while. The predecessor Experts Exchange had most of the experts before SO came along, then the experts moved here. It didn't happen over night, but rather through a slow trickle, people using both sites then eventually abandoning one of them. And now there are fairly mature non-profit open source alternatives to SO - I've already stopped posting what I personally consider higher quality content on SO and only post it elsewhere. Hopefully the start of the slow trickle phase, until non-profit sites gain momentum. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
I agree that articles should have no reputation, but IMO this should be the case even if articles were open to all users (which was on the road map of the original announcement but I can find no mention of it in this post, no idea if that's still on the table). Giving rep for an article would mean articles get flooded with low-effort content to farm rep, and is the wrong incentive for this kind of content. — l4mpi just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@l4mpi I though that I covered that with Community Wiki part. I clarified the second paragraph, that is more general rule than what I think should be done with Articles. — Dalija Prasnikar 27 secs ago
 
11:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
No, but Stack Overflow don't take reports for scraping/copycat sites any more unless it's a proxy. The owner of the content (the question/answer) needs to contact the site instead. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by iBug
@Larnu Then the tag wiki for copycat-sites needs an update. — iBug 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@Lundin "...until non-profit sites gain momentum..." There is surely a certain appeal non-profit approaches but I see it less dogmatic. Profit or no-profit, what counts most is the quality for the users in the end. Maybe SO can make the better offer, after all they have a lot of resources and could use them. — Trilarion 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Indeed it does, @iBug . I, personally, would have preferred it if SO had been better at communicating their change in stance; the only way to find out was if you happened to revisit the linked Answer. — Larnu 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
A better question is why do high rep experienced users with gold badges continue to answer blatant duplicates instead of closing them :sigh: -.- — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by iBug
Well, certainly I was misled by the tag wiki for [copycat-sites] at the time. I've updated it just now and I can sympathize with how they have to choose a boilerplate response with something they don't want to handle. — iBug 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laif
@Nick That sweet, sweet reputation — Laif 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Perhaps add something about the thinking behind the name itself, "Collectives", to preempt inevitable associations (no matter how misdirected or wrong, they exist). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
In fairness, their reasoning is somewhat sound. The majority of content on the sites doesn't belong to Stack Overflow, it belongs to whomever contributed it, and SO can't make a licence infringement notification to 3rd parties on behalf of content they don't own; especially if the owner themselves hasn't asked them to do so. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I mean, who doesn't like fluffy, dichromatic, bamboo-eating bears? They are obviously so much more friendly than slithering ambush predators who kill by constriction! — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 0___________
@E_net4thecurator Yes, but I do no believe in dremptions — 0___________ 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
"Is there any magical link [...]" considering that "I lost my password" is the first valid option on Contact Us, it might be the default fallback... — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
@CodyGray With Anaconda you can have both at the same time. Somehow that doesn't fix the ambush predator problem though. — Robert Longson 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by khelwood
"We cannot compromise on quality" but you do artificially inflate the score of articles by penalising downvotes on them. There is no evident justification for that other than to try and misrepresent the quality of articles. — khelwood 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Trilarion But this very topic here is all about sacrificing quality and community moderation in exchange for profit. Specifically by introducing low-quality sneak advertisements that can't be moderated neither by the community nor by community-elected moderators. It holds absolutely zero value for the community and nobody asked for it either. A non-profit site wouldn't even have considered this idea to begin with. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
To get back to the original comment I posted - one viable business model for a private company is to pay users to post high quality (or at least high traffic) content, just look at Youtube. Will you start paying us is a serious question. It's one possible way to preserve the site in the long term, there might be others too. — Lundin 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@Larnu Let's be real here: the truth is that SE Inc. doesn't give enough of a s**t to police copycats. — Ian Kemp 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I wouldn't like to comment, @IanKemp . I, at least, know that previously when I reported sites that duplicated the work that they did tend to get removed (though sometimes months later). I won't deny, however, that it annoys me that people are making money off of someone else's work without attributing the original author. Plagiarism is a something I really hate. — Larnu 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
"No, but Stack Overflow don't take reports for scraping/copycat sites any more unless it's a proxy." - That is utter garbage... the fact that it's true is quite upsetting. — Nick 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@Lundin Yes, it looks like the gain for the users from Collectives is relatively small so far. Maybe they just failed to use their resources to generate benefit for all. But you're right. Binding content creators financially to the company sounds like an idea that might work. Maybe that should be asked as a separate discussion topic? — Trilarion 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@CodyGray Solution: Wolves. You're welcome! :p — Zoe ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrMythical
Spam questions are always bad questions so that is understandable, but share feedback should not always give an auto-flag — MrMythical 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrMythical
You probably meant to ask this on stackoverflow.comMrMythical 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
duplicate of a theoretical question "why is there such a large quantity of beginner JavaScript questions that concern jQuery" :) Normally, if you are at least somewhat of a knowledgeable person in tech, you can find pretty much every answer to your questions without resorting to asking one on SO (and if one still does, the issue is usually beyond their control in the first place). However, if you are not, and you know that SO is the place to "Ask questions, get answers, no distractions" (cited from the Tour), you take here in hopes of free tutoring from "gurus". Hence, the flood. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laif
@OlegValter What I'm moreso curious about is not why they are here, but why in general it appears that a disproportionate amount of users are learning things like basic for-loops while using a dataframe. There's some odd internet pipeline leading these people to utilize Pandas for ridiculously simple things. — Laif 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laif
Could the question be edited with an example of what the question was? So that this question exists for the posterity? — Laif 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@Laif oh, that's exactly what I referred to in my comment :) There is also a large market push for "you can become a data scientist in no time with no knowledge, passion, or idea of how things work". Programming, and especially Python as a language, are "trendy" now, so it is hardly surprising to see absolutely clueless people trying their hand, miserably failing, and running to the "toxic" SO to "get help". — Oleg Valter 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
@0___________ The system does not forget. Repeated offenses are met with aggravated suspensions until they stop or they are stopped permanently. But please let us know if this particular user ever goes on another rampage. — E_net4 the curator 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@themaster Raise it anywhere in chat and link to the room — Machavity ♦ 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ayhan
"There's some odd internet pipeline leading these people to utilize Pandas for ridiculously simple things" there are many problems pandas solve, ridiculously simple things are some of them. Why is using pandas for simple things problematic? — ayhan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
"Is StackOverlow a website that people seeking help must undertake a five-day course on how to word your questions, before they can ask, for help" That sounds like an interesting idea, actually. Most questions asked here are subpar, as a consequence of many folks asking questions seeking for personal help rather than thinking in broader terms and contributing with a long lasting question that is valuable to more people. — E_net4 the curator 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
What is "js playground"? A generic one? Or a particular one? — Peter Mortensen 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
There is also an edit suggestion on its tag excerpt that introduces unnecessary meta-info with no usage guidance. Any fellow tag wiki/excerpt reviewer seeing this and wanting to restore balance to the force, please do drop by the tag — Oleg Valter 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by iLuvLogix
@Laif I'll edit the question to include an example similar to the question and answer.. — iLuvLogix 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Before being deleted (with two reopen votes and a +2/-5 (total -3) score) it was closed as duplicate of Angular 2 select text on specific input. — Peter Mortensen 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
Member 1998? I member. Don't know what kind of content would make this answer more on-topic. Maybe we should create a retroprogramming.stackexchange.com. — CodeCaster 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"which required an SDK, a runtime, a command-line compiler" - eh... those were all the one SDK. You only needed an SDK to get going with Java. Or an IDE, because they tend to come bundled with their own tooling. — Gimby 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
@Gimby of course, my post is illustrative and a bit in jest in how hard it was to set up a development environment in 2000-2010. We had Macs, Linux and Windows, everyone had a different setup of their environment, nobody had money and between BlueJ, Netbeans and Eclipse there were different problems tying them all together to write code and get it running. Back then it definitely was not a Next-Next-Finish-F5. — CodeCaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Ahhhh Eclipse... one of the reasons I don't like Java — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Pyodide is nice, but would it be a net benefit for Stack Overflow? It supports one out of five Python releases (not counting older versions, PyPy and things like Cython), lacks some prominent libraries and while the scientific stack has many users, Python is used for a lot of other things – that often involve things the browser just cannot supply. For every code snippet improved by this, how many will be worse because the author picked the wrong code kind or wasted time before figuring out what works? — MisterMiyagi 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@Laurel Please don't suggest a question that was asked years after this question as a duplicate target. — Ian Kemp 59 secs ago
 
1:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
At least they're honest about it. And as it's said: money makes the world go round. There is a probably a maximum of profit that one can get out of SO and if one tries too hard one might probably fail, but maximizing profit and profiting from other peoples' work is kind of normal in many parts of the world. — Trilarion 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by khelwood
@Trilarion Something being kind of normal doesn't mean it's good; certainly doesn't mean it's a reasonable justification. — khelwood 26 secs ago
 
1:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stackprotector
@iBug Have you tried turning it off and on again? — stackprotector 1 min ago
 
1:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jgosar
The same thing happened for me, but now that I have 96.0.4664.45, this works again without any extra settings — jgosar 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Conrado
@ayhan For economy's sake: unless you have limitless resources, you wouldn't rent a big red dump truck to deliver a letter. It's a bit like using Autocad to make WordArt, I think — Conrado 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nat Riddle
+1 I'm a Python programmer, and I have [pandas] on my ignore list due to the sheer volume. Do I ever unblock it? Only when I'm looking for a pile of low-quality posts to edit. — Nat Riddle 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by iBug
@stackprotector Excuse me but what is "turn it off"? Turn what off? — iBug 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"Any reason to keep extremely rude users here?" - For science. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
On a similar note, it's quite common for people to use the Python Django framework to do backend website stuff without an adequate understanding of core Python. That makes it hard for them to do many simple tasks and to properly understand the Django docs. And when things go (inevitably) wrong they come to SO with a question, and have difficulties understanding the answers. — PM 2Ring 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
FWIW, a lot of the Pandas questions don't even have the generic Python tag. Currently, a [pandas] -[python] search returns 31,511 questions. :( — PM 2Ring 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ayhan
@Conrado I think that argument is a little outdated. pandas is not a heavy dependency for most use cases. The people using it are generally using it for their own analysis / prediction tasks. It is readily available in many scientific distributions, you can quickly run whatever you want in Google Colab using pandas and it is even possible to run pandas in browser thanks to pyodide. It is not a library that you install on embedded devices to do things that you can easily do otherwise, but like I said, the use case is quite different. — ayhan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
[ Boson ] New comment posted by matan h
@MisterMiyagi edited to make this clear — matan h 1 min ago
 
2:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eike Pierstorff
@iBug, that's a quote from "The IT crowd", given by the IT staff in the series for every bug they have no intention of actually handling. So, just a joke. — Eike Pierstorff 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
It looks like you accidentally a few letters. — CodeCaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
"My question was asked more than two years before the target was created; if anything the target should be closed as a dupe of my question..." Why? Should the older question always be the duplicate target? Does question and/or answer quality never play a role? — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
FWIW, I closed as no longer reproducible, as we no longer use google prettify. — Nick 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@JeanneDark Because chronologically it makes no sense to close an earlier question as a duplicate of a later one! — Ian Kemp 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"The standard for Meta questions that don't get answers is to leave them alone to die" Since when? Age has never mattered when it comes to voting to close questions as duplicates. Your feature request was obsoleted by a change to the system. It's hardly unprecedented to close the obsolete question as a duplicate of the new question announcing a change to the system. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by iBug
@EikePierstorff Rebooting solves 90% of the problems. Reinstalling solves 99%. Buying a new one solves 100% — iBug 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Age has nothing to do with it. What we're looking for is "do any of the answers to the duplicate answer your question too". That's all. We regularly duplicate older questions to newer ones where the newer one has a better answer. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
"My question is not and cannot be a duplicate of the supposed target." The duplicate target does answer your question. — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
Duplicate closure is about leading folks to the best canonical answer. The "seniority" of a post has nothing to do with that. — StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@SecurityHound The example responses you give here in your Meta question are responses to a different question than the one you asked on Main. If you asked "does Windows networking already provide compression for internet traffic?", then you could expect an answer like the one you gave above here. But you didn't; you asked "is it a good idea" instead. As it happens, both "yes" and "no" are acceptable (and, depending on the per-situation details, correct) answers to that. The answer you did receive effectively said as much ("there's no typical answer; it's a tradeoff"). — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"it makes no sense to close an earlier question as a duplicate of a later one!" It makes complete sense to do so if a question asked later answers your question; this is a common occurrence on meta when changes to the site happens. — Larnu 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by snakecharmerb
I'd imagine that many of these people want to use Pandas as a tool to do data analysis. Pandas is, obviously, great for that purpose and it does a reasonable job of abstracting away pain points like file formats and databases. So people can get a long way knowing very little Python but quickly get lost if they have to step outside their comfort zone and so come here to ask their "beginner" questions. — snakecharmerb 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@SillyDude In short, at Stack Overflow, answers are to address the question you asked, not the question in your mind which prompted the question you asked. The question you asked was asking for peoples' opinions on whether it was a good idea. You list some pros and cons, but don't mention what your requirements are. Pros and cons are not really acceptable by themselves, because not everyone views the same things as pros or cons, or they might not even be concerned with a given con. If I'm writing an internal web app, I don't need to worry about data compression for, say, mobile users. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
"It would be sensible if the person posting is required to demonstrate some minimum of technical domain knowledge and insight in the SO platform. Perhaps require them to have a bronze badge in the topic they are about to post an article about?" - disagree; it's impractical as not every expert has an SO account and asking them to spend weeks (or months in low-traffic tags) posting answers so they can post an article is a non-starter. Furthermore, all content should be judged on its own merits, not based on the clout of its author. Agree that LQ articles are a concern but this isn't a solution. — l4mpi 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
"This can only have occurred via moderator intervention." Not saying this is what happened in your case, but for certain flags, comments can be automatically deleted with no intervention of mods. — samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Gimby It actually is a complete question. It's just that, as humans and programmers, we can intuit that it's probably an incomplete thought that OP didn't fully think through/express in their question, because we know that the answer to the question they did ask is not a particularly useful one in terms of helping them make progress on whatever the problem is. But we aren't in the business of answering questions that weren't asked here; mind reading is off-topic, even if it might often be accurate. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"Because chronologically it makes no sense to close an earlier question as a duplicate of a later one!" - I wish there was some kind of order to Stack Overflow. But there isn't, it's one big pile of randomness. — Gimby 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
"A comment I left on my question after the dupe target was suggested, disputing the target as being a dupe, was deleted without any explanation.", "And why did a moderator feel it necessary to step in to remove a comment disputing the dupe?" "This question already has answers here" - but it does not. What can I do when I think my question's not a duplicate?Jeanne Dark 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 9ilsdx 9rvj 0lo
I'm quite sure it was already asked, but I can't find the duplicate. — 9ilsdx 9rvj 0lo just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
This one seems related. There have also been complaints about allegedly frequent downvotes in this tag, at this time deleted. — E_net4 the curator 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@CodeCaster - I remember installing Visual Studio from floppy disks. What is this fancy CD you speak of? — Security Hound 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"and this amplifies the potential problems with articles because you put the tool only into the hands of people with somewhat conflicting interests in promoting their product and with likely not that much SO experience" - leave it to a mad scientist to nail it. — Gimby 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@l4mpi They can post their articles as self-answered Q&A until then. Requiring someone to be active for a few weeks before they can post articles isn't too much to ask - what are those companies even doing here if they don't have a presence on the network nor seek to gain one? If a company like Google can't find a single employee who got a relevant bronze badge or at least some 2k-3k rep, then they really ought to be asking themselves wth they are doing. — Lundin 1 min ago
 
3:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Donald Duck
My guess is that since they don't take reports for scraping/copycat sites any more, they probably deleted the "Stack Exchange content is being reproduced without attribution" server-side but forgot to delete it client-side, which would cause the server not to recognize the topic and fallback to "I lost my password". I don't know what their code actually looks like though, so a staff member would have to confirm whether or not this is the case. — Donald Duck 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
don't get me wrong, I would prefer if collectives and/or articles disappeared entirely. But that's not going to happen, and I'd be surprised if SE would agree to ask paying customers to ensure their subject matter experts grind SO rep/badges. Furthermore, the requirement has no tangible benefits in itself - if an article is great, the rep of its author is irrelevant; if it's bad, it doesn't get better if the author has a gold badge. Gating articles behind a badge or rep threshold would make more sense if SE allows everyone to write articles, but not with the current system. — l4mpi 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@l4mpi "...would make more sense if SE allows everyone to write articles..." -> the upcoming changes to articles would let everyone (that has joined the collective) draft and submit articles for the collective to publish. assuming there's people in the collective with the access to review these articles that actually do it, everyone within reason will be able to write articles. — Kevin B 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Donald Duck
This snippet isn't working, it just shows me "out of memory" errors. — Donald Duck 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@l4mpi It's not just to ensure expertise but also to ensure that they have a clue about the site culture and don't drop some smelly product advertisements disguised as technical blogs here. In particular I don't think we want to see "benefits of technology x" market barf. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
The part about finding employees with relevant rep/badges is a fallacy btw - you don't want some random user with a relevant badge to be the gateway for articles written by everyone else, do you? The issue is that specific employees of the collectives companies who potentially designed entire things that have SO tags might not have an SO account yet, and create one so they can write some in-depth articles about their products. For example, if any of the GO language creators showed up to write articles, it would be ridiculous to expect them to go earn a badge first. — l4mpi 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
As an analogy, suppose your company wants to advertise on Facebook but you haven't gotten a single employee who uses Facebook nor anyone who wants to start using it. Then your options as a company would be: either hire someone who knows how to use Facebook, or alternatively don't advertise on Facebook if you don't have a clue what that site is about. There are faster ways to burn money if you have too much of it - just use a lighter. — Lundin 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
@Lundin agree entirely on the ads, but that is IMO an entirely different issue. Nothing stops someone with a bronze badge from posting an ad in a collective. Also, I would challege the assumption that a bronze badge means the user knows about the site culture. — l4mpi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
@KevinB I know that was on the road map but have seen no mention of it here or in Theresas post, is there any specific new info about that? — l4mpi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jrh
Remember when Microsoft bundled in all proprietary requirements and didn't have to worry about pulling in the latest FOSS package for whatever? It was a simpler time, but fragmentation is everywhere, not just Python. There's an infinite universe of cooks in the kitchen for every tiny aspect of programming now. Does something inconvenience you about a library? Fork it! Library doesn't match the hot new programming paradigm? Rewrite it to use the new thing! Lessons learned? That old stuff was junk anyway. Learn hard problems and improve them? Nah, that's scary, CFD works just fine in Fortan '77. — jrh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@Lundin true enough but we must not forget that the setup works for Youtube because they care absolutely nothing about quality, only that a video is advertiser friendly. If the monetisation factor of Stack Overflow becomes the voting score... jeepers imagine what that is going to do to voting fraud. It's going to go rampant. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Yes, philip's post mentions it, and he's mentioned it several times recently as being something coming very soon. — Kevin B 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@l4mpi A bronze badge means that you must have 20+ answers with a total of 100+ score in a certain topic. It's kind of hard to achieve that without knowing the site's culture. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I don't think OP refers to people who don't quite get pandas but users who don't quite get the basics of Python - ifs, loops, etc. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
@Lundin "It's kind of hard to achieve that without knowing the site's culture" - that's a good one. Let's just say I know quite a few users with all kinds of badges who do various things that I would describe as detrimental to the site's culture. — l4mpi 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by animuson
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Donald Duck
What does this have to do with the question? You seem to be explaining why people would use Python instead of other programming languages, but the question is asking why Python beginners use Pandas instead of plain Python. — Donald Duck 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
it's better than nothing whatsoever, considering we're going to get articles and collectives regardless. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Gimby It would have to be based on post views I think, not votes. And probably in relation with advertising, because Youtube is essentially just giving the video author a cut on the advertising profits earned per view. Anyway, luckily it isn't my job to make SO work as a long term commercial product. Less intrusive things like the job site seem like better ideas, though to become successful there they would have to employ actual human recruiters and not just charge for advertising, but candidate matching, interviews and so on. — Lundin 1 min ago
 
4:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
But what about the satisfaction that comes from sending Stacksassins? How can you enjoy life without crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you, and hearing the lamentations of their significant others? — user4581301 7 secs ago
 
4:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Leffler
I've removed the multifile tag from all the questions with the tag, updating the question content for some but by no means all of the questions. The tag should be cleaned up later today as it is unused. — Jonathan Leffler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"So I guess they closed the question because a low user rep has asked a question" - Ouch. You're off to a really bad start if you are already treating this as if people are targeting you, if you believe that then the internet is not a safe place for you. People are judging the content, not you. — Gimby 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"I have researched on Stack Overflow for this type of error" - Better research using a proper search engine such as Google. Google or Bing or DuckDuckGo or whatever you prefer are far better at finding content ON Stack Overflow than SO itself is. But there are plenty of other sites too. Like MDN which brings up a HTTP status code that seems to be at the heart of this: developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/416 . So that would imply a faulty header. What does your question not detail? HTTP request and response headers. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
And yes I agree with you, some feedback would have been nice from someone. Unfortunately providing feedback can actually blow up in people's faces as it gives a person a target to be angry at. So it is something people can be hesitant to do, especially with people who are new to the site. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
The one thing I think you're missing is what exactly in your code, is the last thing to run before that error occurs. What process eventually leads to the error occurring. Which parts of the code are relevant and which parts are unnecessary. There are other questions out there related to the error message you received, and they're not just jQueryJSON stuff, but things related to the same API you are using. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
I turned my comments into an answer because... well I was putting an answer in comments. — Gimby 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Other than that... i don't see anything wrong here. It's not going to be an incredibly useful question in terms of future users, but with more clarity on where in the process the error occurs in your case is all that is needed for it to be answerable. (hell, someone who's familiar with that API could probably find your issue without that. It's been done before) — Kevin B 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philippe
@StoryTeller-UnslanderMonica - that makes sense to me, if no one objects. I'll add it.; — Philippe ♦ 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Just to clarify @E_net4thecurator's comment in case it was unclear: Please don't let us know if the user goes on another rampage. Only let the moderators know via a custom flag. — cigien 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philippe
@blackgreen currently, yes. However, very shortly we'll be rolling out a workflow that allows other collectives members to propose and write articles for collectives. — Philippe ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philippe
@Trilarion - that seems reasonable. Let me see what I can do. :-) — Philippe ♦ 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
"Basic university courses on data analysis or economics are almost guaranteed to touch Python and Pandas without students having ever heard of those before." I think this is probably the whole explanation. There are a lot of beginners using Python+Pandas who don't really understand programming, because Python+Pandas is being used for teaching data analysis to students with no prior programming experience. Even if Pandas was straightforward and paradigmatic, and the students were all intellectually rigorous, we'd still expect to see a lot of beginner Python+Pandas questions. — kaya3 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
@kaya3 yeah that's why I put it as #1. Unfortunately teachers are also not programmers and this is ultimately what gets beginners to ask here instead of e.g. emailing them or waiting for the next class. — Marco Bonelli 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Has community... trust, respect, etc for the company eroded to such a point that it's not worth making the community part of the solution? that the only way to... make ends meet is to mislead? — Kevin B 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kenny Evitt
What does "NPE" mean? And your answer seems to be 'use the best question' but also contorts itself to try to avoid stating that directly. Given that I asked this question, pointed out my own (previous) understanding and how that differs from another understanding, appealing to "common sense" seems extremely unhelpful. — Kenny Evitt 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@KennyEvitt I removed that part. I am not sure what answer you were expecting. Can you help me understand what answer you would consider as helpful? At the end of the day, nobody is policing which duplicates we use for duplicate closure. — Dharman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
I see that davidsbro edited out the assumption about toby being targeted for being new... I'm not too sure if that is a good edit, it changes the intent of the question. For the better for sure, but that seems like the kind of edit the OP should do. Then I'll happily yank it out of my answer. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
Off-topic, but frome time to time I find it entertaining to go back and take a look at the updated results of this Data SE query that I made last year comparing the average question scores of top languages vs Rust and Haskell. — Marco Bonelli 17 secs ago
 
5:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ouflak
"Stack Overflow is drowning in poor content and the company still refuses to explain rules to the new users..." Not only that, there are loads or users, active and experienced on the site, that could help with the tsunami of poor content, but cannot do so because of reputation. So not only have we now got users from Collectives, with no experience, unable (and uninterested) to help with curation because of that lack of experience, we've plenty who could help and can't. It was already a strange situation. Now it's become dystopian. — ouflak 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Can confirm, only started in the last idk, recently :p — Nick 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
If the purpose of a runnable snippet is so that a reader can click "play" and see the output, what is the benefit of this over just requiring people to include the output in their post as static text? With Javascript snippets at least the "input" and "output" might involve GUI interaction and DOM manipulation, but Python code cannot naturally accept input or produce output via a browser. Would runnable Python snippets also require a terminal emulator to be embedded in the post? — kaya3 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Nick within the last hour, perhaps. I'm not sure exactly. Might be a bit longer if my browser was using cached styles. It's definitely very new. From today. The CSS has an explicit rule to add underlines: body.theme-highcontrast a, body.theme-highcontrast .s-link { text-decoration:underline } so it's not random. — VLAZ 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by animuson
This was an intentional change for high-contrast mode in Stacks 0.72.0 but I'll leave it to the design team to explain why the change was made (I don't actually know why, only that the change was intentional). — animuson ♦ 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kenny Evitt
It seems like you agreed that the canonical question should be the 'best' one but also went out of your way to try to avoid stating that clearly. 'Do your best' is unhelpful because it's non-specific. You don't seem to be arguing that 'use the oldest question' is sensible – as a blanket policy – and I agree, and I also agree with a lot of what you wrote, but I wanted answers that provide clear guidance about which question should be the canonical 'dupe target' – even if, in practice, that guidance would be muddled by circumstance. — Kenny Evitt 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@animuson Appreciate that animuson... unfortunately while it's high contrast it massively hinders readability, will wait to see what design team say. — Nick 30 secs ago
 
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