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12:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Please stop mentioning deleted.. Someone might act on it. — Scratte 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@Scratte Same reason why they deleted this? And from the threads intention, that is the feeling I got. But maybe Im wrong. — 10 Rep 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
Actually, no. Edits that make no change to the post and that are trivial should be rejected, as they waste the time of reviewers, and give unneccessary reputation to users. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@10Rep Deleted?!? Why would anyone delete it? — Scratte 1 min ago
 
12:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@10Rep I think it depends on the edit. If the language doesn't highlight correctly, it may be trivial, but improves the post significantly. The 2 reputation points are Stack Inc's way to reward users and make them want to improve posts. Why let that be part of the judgement? — Scratte 1 min ago
 
12:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Johan Nilsson
@PeterMortensen With Stack Overflow being "elitist", I mean "keeping someone out" by having a sense of superiority, we who are enlightened against them who are just using this website for tips to start out. There's nothing wrong with setting high standards, but I do believe that those standards must be reachable without people getting scared off while trying. Shouldn't we encourage people getting interested in programming instead of putting people off? — Johan Nilsson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Johan Nilsson
@user4639281 Good point with that you need experience in asking good questions. That is a skill in and of itself. My question would be how would people learn "by doing" as you wrote, if 1) people are afraid of asking a question; and 2) people are required to read the guidelines (reading vs. doing) and get it right on their very first try lest they get hammered with downvotes and harsh comments? — Johan Nilsson 1 min ago
 
1:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@Scratte Actually, one can put a content lock on only answers. Take the infamouse Zalgo answer, one could put the same type of lock on that. — 10 Rep 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@10Rep It's locked for editing.and comments. I cannot tell if it's also locked for delete votes. But either way.. why is it that the first thing that comes to mind is "delete"? It doesn't make any sense. Let it be. — Scratte 21 secs ago
 
2:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@Scratte Yeah, Hope it doesn't get deleted. Just leave it alone is what I say as well, but I would also agree with a lock. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Petruza
Laurel, @BSMP That's right, no notifications at all related to a specific question. — Petruza 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@10Rep How about we delete these comments, and don't mention it again from the first mention of "deleted" which would be all our comments on this post? — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@Scratte Delete yours now, I guess. — 10 Rep 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Petruza
I just got a new answer for the question SQL - how to select an empty resultset I asked 11 years ago, 2009, and I don't even remember why I did. The question has lots of correct answers, one of which was marked as accepted the same year, lots of comments and constructive debate, yet a new user decided another answer was needed. — Petruza 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Petruza
I'm the user who asked that question that definitely is not a duplicate of this one. I just got an answer to an 11 year old question about SQL, which has had many correct answers and one accepted for the last 11 years, but someone felt it was a great idea to add yet another answer. — Petruza 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
That wouldn't be very original. See this posted two years before. Notice the difference in votes too. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@Scratte I always assumed it was status bydesign. But now I am not sure. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sellyme
@Nick do you mean to say if the language had already been correctly detected? — Sellyme 1 min ago
 
3:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marquizzo
@Petruza Yeah, I tried to explain that your question is not the same scenario, but a second justifiable reason to have a "mute" button. Sadly, I couldn't stop the close train once it got rolling. Cody Gray above is the only one who addressed the question, although I disagree because I didn't want to have all the comments deleted by a mod, since some of them provided valuable context. I still think that a mute button is justified in your scenario too. As a contributor, you should have the agency to choose when you no longer want notifications without deleting the whole thread. — Marquizzo 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Yeah, this is kind of a catch-all tag without any definitive meaning in any context. Since it is under 50 questions, it can be burnt on the spot even without the discussion, but something tells me the outcome will be unanimous regardless. Also, we have Web Apps Stackexchange for questions about issues with GitHub (like this one) — Oleg Valter 19 secs ago
 
3:23 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chiperific
As a new reviewer, I just need to say I totally missed all the signs and made some base assumptions about what the "needs editing" button was for. I sometimes still hit it by accident, followed by a loud expletive. It seems so native to say to the OP "this needs editing" — Chiperific 1 min ago
 
 
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4:43 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joshua
Thanks for owning up to it. — Joshua 1 min ago
 
5:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chrylis -cautiouslyoptimistic-
Is it really worth having a tag for HDC at all instead of using gdi or an appropriate tag for the Windows API? — chrylis -cautiouslyoptimistic- 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
It seems fine to me, but one could say it's a matter of opinion. I noticed that putting your screen on super low brightness does affect it a little, but it's still okay, not that bad. — 10 Rep 34 secs ago
 
 
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6:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nav
I agree that monitor brightness plays a role, but using a better contrast is necessary. Ask any interaction designer. You just have to turn on the dark theme in StackOverflow's preferences and visit the jobs page. — Nav 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Julia
Perhaps it'd be better if StackOverflow introduced a dialog box for entering code, where such angle brackets would automatically be converted to the correct format so that these issues do not crop up. I do not see any issue with OP reporting this problem. This is a bug. — Julia 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nav
I agree that monitor brightness plays a role, but using a better contrasting colors is necessary. Ask any interaction designer. You just have to turn on the dark theme in StackOverflow's preferences and visit the jobs page. — Nav 10 secs ago
 
7:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nav
I agree that monitor brightness plays a role, but using better contrasting colors is necessary. This is part of the basics of graphic design. Ask any interaction designer. You just have to turn on the dark theme in StackOverflow's preferences and visit the jobs page. — Nav 36 secs ago
 
7:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
The bottom line is: you won't gain anything from accepting your own answer but you might learn something new if people are encouraged to answer the question. — 41686d6564 just now
 
7:43 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Clockwork
@PeterMortensen If I remember correcty, that answer used to have a special message saying that it was locked because it had historical value but is not a good example of a good answer. I think the UI change to the lock system, made it disappear or something. — Clockwork 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@bad_coder 'I'd point out the forms of passive-aggressive bigotry that while not flaggable are equally as aggressive or even worst than just swearing and a straight insult', yes please point them out.... — Martin James 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
You should probably add to your question why you believe the synonyms are inappropriate, and how each of these tags serves to identify a different set of questions. — yivi 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tadeusz Kopec
In the original snippet we leave loop with x equal to -1, in modified snippet x will be equal to 0. — Tadeusz Kopec 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tripleee
Also, repeatedly using a completely useless question title is likely to attract downvotes which should be easy to avoid otherwise. — tripleee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@MartinJames en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive-aggressive_behavior you can start on wikipedia. — bad_coder 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@bad_coder umm...no, I would like you to point out recent examples on SO, ones that are worse than gangspeak insults. — Martin James 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Clockwork
Actually, I meant the C'thulhu answer. — Clockwork 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tripleee
The question was closed by a moderator after the OP added the code. — tripleee just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sinatr
winapi should suffice imho. hdc and device-context adds nothithing. You can't be expert in hdc, rather expert in winapi. — Sinatr 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@MartinJames "you would like me to"... Sure you would like me to, but I don't cater to your wishes. In the view of argumentativeness, you're saying there's no passive-aggressive behavior on SO, that variant of human behavior simply ceases to exist in this venue and every single instance is minutely deleted? No I don't believe that, otherwise "meta" wouldn't have a track-record of users questioning its own toxicity so there are the examples you asked for. — bad_coder 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Please get a room, the two of you ... — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
For additional context: the oldest tag is "responsive design" with a tag wiki. "Responsiveness" seems to refer to a different term (not about layout, but about time). "Responsive" is the newest tag and tries to be different from the "responsive design", though it's unclear (at least for me) what the distinction is. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
 
8:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
Your question has been reopened. — Ivar 28 secs ago
 
9:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
Tip: always save the links of your meta posts. They will be likely soon deleted. I suggest also to not leaving comments entirely out, the community needs a clear feedback if it is going on the bad way. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I suppose the question now is, "should question is 'flight' be allowed to be posted again, when only some can benefit from the grace period." Seems more like this is a "feature" really that some are "allowed" to post while others not. — Larnu 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heikki
@HereticMonkey your solution is good enough. Would you like to answer the question, or should I remove the question? — Heikki 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
Yes, the SO is elitist, except that the favorized inner circle is no way considerable as an "elite" in any productive sense ;-) — peterh - Reinstate Monica 55 secs ago
 
9:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@peterh This user appears to be temporarily suspended now, but otherwise have more than enough reputation to be able to find their own deleted posts. (deleted:1 user:me). The advise seems to be redundant on this particular post. — yivi 1 min ago
 
9:33 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adriaan
@Larnu what do you mean by "Should question is 'flight'(..)"? — Adriaan 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
A phrase from an answer by Jeff from 9~ years ago. Though I should have said "answer"; apologies the coffee hadn't kicked in yet. :) — Larnu 1 min ago
 
9:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Imho, the task description is unclear. I wrote the details to the question. — BDL 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Haem
The most likely way that error can arise is a race condition between whatever mechanism lets the client-side know to disable the post-button and the user clicking the post-button. — Haem 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
I personally always close questions with multiple dupe target and this is a strong signal for me that it need to be deleted it later. Some question are trivial that you can find a lot of way to solve the problem. how to center an element in CSS --> (1) use flexbox (2) use css grid (3) use position:absolute (4)... it's not a too broad question but a trivial one that even google can answer it within 2sec. — Temani Afif 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Note that the original author of the comment edited the answer. 'Nuff said right there. Answering in comments is the only wrong in this scenario, and by the looks of it two or three people were making that mistake. Along comes a person who rights the wrong and basically does it in the most eye opening way possible, by quoting a comment verbatim and having nothing extra to add to it. chefs kiss, beautiful bit of teaching by example right there. — Gimby 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrick Artner
Click answer, post nonsensical answer, delete it. Edit deleted state, undelete might also be a way to get "new" answers into closed ones - but above 10k or by inspecting the timeline you could see this was done. — Patrick Artner 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
^ and I also do it because I always get comments like : no, it's not a dupe, I don't want to do it using X ... well, I gave you a full list of duplicates so you have the choice between X or Y or Z, all the possibilites. Again, not a too broad question but without very precise requirements so I cover all the cases with my dupesTemani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
IMO it also makes sense to do it when a question is just multiple questions in one e.g. How to sort unique elements of list alphabetically --> (1) How to remove duplicates from list (2) How to sort list — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sinatr
Did you: 1) start answering before question was closed and was unable to submit the answer 2) question was already closed and you tried to answer? If it's the first case, then it's a bug of some kind, if latter - it's by design. — Sinatr 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@Sinatr from the question "There have been several times where I will be answering a question, and then I go to submit the answer and because I did so seconds (literally seconds) after the close vote completed my answer is rejected." I'm not so keyboard proficient I can write an entire answer in a couple of seconds. ;) — Larnu 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caius Jard
@Larnu I'm sure that's not true! :) — Caius Jard 1 min ago
 
10:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@PatrickArtner That is frowned upon and I've been told that is also grounds for moderator warnings. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I'm not Gordon, (who I'm sure has a directory of copy and paste answers at their disposal) @CaiusJard. it takes me at least 1 minute to write some of my answers. ;) — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drag and Drop
Multiple dupe target kinda make sense in my short experience. For example: 1/. a single trivial regex question may be easly solve by linking to 2 different Dupe that illustrate each basics the question is about. Take the basic password with capitals and numbers, where any variation: lenght, mandatory, start with. will be enought to rules out all exisiting dupe. Or 2/. "get service data and save it to json file", where it's a both step have good dupe target. You can't close it as too broad just because its A and b and you have dupe for A or B. — Drag and Drop just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@PatrickArtner That is frowned upon and I've been told that is also grounds for moderator warnings. "by inspecting the timeline you could see this was done". I do not think so. The Answer does not show to have been deleted at any point. Unless you mean there is yet another Answer on this Question that has never been un-deleted. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Fair enough. But am I really expected to check the team list on every site a link points to? — BDL 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I don't know what's expected or not. I'm not blaming you for failing the audit. I have to say that when I follow links because I suspect spam, I try to be more or less thorough. In this case, it took me just one click, so it wasn't that deeply concealed. You said you looked for the name of the author, so you were looking for the same thing, right? — yivi 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I don't think it's a bad audit. It doesn't take a particularlty deep examination to find the spam-connection, and the suspicious link is posted twice, which makes it even more attention grabbing. — yivi 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drag and Drop
Those little variation can be address by an other simple dupe target. Or should we accept that is not a dupe because of the variation? — Drag and Drop 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
I usually make a "Find in page" for parts of the authors name (in this case I searched for "Efi"). I usually also check the authors profile to see if it states a company name or a link. The author is on SO for a long time, he has several other good answers and questions. If I would check subpages on every linked page in review queues, that would probably blow up the review time significantly. Maybe I should ask a new question to get clarification on how detailed links should be checked in LQP. — BDL 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
But yes, we are venturing on "another question" territory. This one was "why was this answer deleted as spam", which I think is already covered. — yivi 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chilledrat
@Stephen if you filter the list of tags on the word flutter you will see there are a wide range. Hopeful this will put your minds at rest. — Chilledrat 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I don't check every subpage, but if it's a company page and they have an "about us" of sorts, I take a look. This time, it paid off very quickly. — yivi 1 min ago
 
11:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
So yeah. A stinker of an audit. When an answer has that many links I get cold feet myself and I tend to open the question outside of review. — Gimby 1 min ago
 
11:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
"But obviously it won't work if more than one dupe target is added". I like that! A lot. Before I was an account I had to go and find the original in the linked list and click that. But with multiple duplicates I can see the original that I was linked to and I have multiple other posts to find information in. — Scratte 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
Does this answer your question? Review suspension progressive systemJeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Brisiak
@HovercraftFullOfEels as i mentioned in the question, the review look answerable at first — Martin Brisiak 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
1) you're never banned for 3 months for a single error, 2) it is OK to skip a question in review if you are not sure which way the review should go — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Brisiak
@JeanneDark hi Jeanne, no, as I haven't been banned for more than 30 days — Martin Brisiak 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by psubsee2003
In a ideal world, this makes sense. Multiple dups would strongly suggest that all of the questions are dups of each other and it needs needs a single canonical question. But because of users who refuse to close questions (they just want to answer) or who think closing is unkind, you end up with multiple similar questions often with different answers. So we'll never be able to approach this ideal world because we can't clean up 12 years of history and we'll never reign in the users who don't want to close or flag. So the ability to close as multiple dups seems to be a good compromise. — psubsee2003 32 secs ago
 
11:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
If you haven't been banned in the previous 30 days, it means your last ban was for about six months. — yivi 6 secs ago
 
12:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Brisiak
@yivi my last ban was one month at Aug 16, for failing automated audit on this question stackoverflow.com/questions/63143525/… , which I marked as Unsalvageable, although the question is now closed so i guess that flag was correct then even thought audit said it supposed to "looks ok". — Martin Brisiak 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@yivi According to a moderator, a manual review suspension is not reset, like a system imposed suspension. Resetting it has to be manually done, so even if the last suspension was 6 months ago, the next will still be double the duration as default. — Scratte 59 secs ago
 
12:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Brisiak
@rene thanks for the answer, I didn't miss that i am suspended, should I contact moderator somehow? — Martin Brisiak 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
The duplicate does explain why your ban is 3 months: A mod suspended you manually for reviewing incorrectly in the triage queue. The suspensions are that long to prevent that irregular reviewers would miss that they are suspended. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Best advice is to edit in this question that you make clear you understand why looks ok was wrong and that you've read the guidance and links offered in the answer on the dupe. If that is convincing enough and you have no extra doubtful review history a mod might lift your suspension early. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
Does this answer your question? How is this a bad answer?gnat 51 secs ago
 
12:53 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
You shouldn't generally be answering questions that are getting closed. — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anand Choudhary
Please mention in comments you know — Anand Choudhary 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@philipxy just because a question has been closed doesn't been it should have. I elaborate that in the question: "thus I then have to save off the markdown, vote to reopen, and then bookmark the question" 3 VTCs doesn't take long in popular tags, and pile on votes do happen, even if people don't believe it. — Larnu 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steven Penny
@TadeuszKopec that variable shouldnt be used outside of the loop anyway. Another footgun. — Steven Penny 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Also people answer & vote to reopen questions that should be closed. Anyway my last comment said "generally". — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Yes, but my point is, @philipxy, is that if I'm answering a question I don't feel it should be closed; I'm pretty prolific with my close votes in the tags I am active with as quality, vagueness, and duplicates are common. Notice in the example I give, I am the one that closed it (with a gold badge); I never intended to answer it. — Larnu 1 min ago
 
1:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@Scratte hear hear. As soon as you start making judgement calls that involve what reputation people would gain or lose, you're doing it very wrong. — Gimby 1 min ago
 
1:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Warcupine
No one but whoever downvoted could tell you why it was downvoted. At a guess it's because typing the error into google gives half a million results. — Warcupine 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
Googling the error message provides another post with the correct solution as the first result. The question, your question was closed as a duplicate of, has 524 linked questions, so ca. 500 others have asked this question — that’s not even counting the deleted ones. All this means: lack of research effort. Your question may no longer be salvageable. — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I don't think the question here is asking help interpreting the votes, but asking help in improving the question. — yivi 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
One thing to be aware of; when asking for interpretation of downvotes on a question from Meta, the question is likely to be met with the meta effect, which is additional scrutiny from others. That could bring more downvotes to your question. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Olivier Girardot
@yivi, yes that was the goal, thank you :) — Olivier Girardot 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Olivier Girardot
OK, I can understand that. It was a Rooky mistake for sure, and at the time I didn't really understand how stackoverflow worked. I believe I was thinking that you could ask whatever you wanted, a bit like on reddit, but focusd on coding. — Olivier Girardot 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GalaxyCat105
Please add the [specific-question] tag to this question — GalaxyCat105 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Olivier Girardot
@yivi, thanks I appreciate the effort to help me here :) — Olivier Girardot 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
It doesn't seem like there is much way to improve the question, I'm afraid. Deleting it so it doesn't accrue further downvotes would be the better option, I think. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Regarding your post-ban, if you are still post-banned, please read this, if you haven't. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
It wasn't possible with this particular question, maybe there is some other that would be a bit more borderline. If not, I'm afraid you'll have to wait until your next chance to ask a question and make the most out of it. Good luck! — yivi 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Olivier Girardot
@yivi, thank you I have read it, but I have been banned for a while now, so I am trying to make it up to the community by cleaning up my mess... which I am apparently not succeeding :) — Olivier Girardot 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Randomness Slayer
@Yatin to be quite honest, I don't think anyone on StackOverflow should even bother trying to cater to "the people who just want their homework done by someone online for free and with no regard whatsoever to what we are trying to achieve." That's not the point of this platform. That kind of information is a natural byproduct, but such people are not the ones asking the good questions, they are simply piggy-backing off of genuine questions seeking the right way to do something. It's an information exchange, open to all, curated by the curious. — Randomness Slayer 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Olivier Girardot
@yivi Thank you, your help is very much appreciated :) I think I will try to improve other questions by myself, it's less risky lol — Olivier Girardot 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
There is no distinction, except that presumably [responsive] isn't limited to "design" like [responsive-design]. Personally, I think it's a meaningless tag that attempts to lump every web technology and API regarding modern web development into one umbrella so that people don't need to find more specific tags like [media-query] and the like. — Heretic Monkey 42 secs ago
 
2:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Answering It All
@41686d6564 At least I feel better now. Thank you for the response. — Answering It All 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
*answer score of 3200+* "wouldn't call it a popular answer" OK, sure, buddy... — TylerH 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Answering It All
@Pac0 I know that. But since I now got a big bunch of downvotes, it affected my schedule for posting questions. For now, thank you for the response. — Answering It All 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I would say wrongly closed questions becomes a concern when we're closing more questions per day than we're receiving. — Kevin B 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Timur Shtatland
Thank you! I wish we had a best practices page on SO: this answer is an example of how to admit a mistake well (promptly, correctly, and with just the right amount of explanation). — Timur Shtatland 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
@Sinatr That's what I felt when I came across a question tagged HDC. But when I then found the "device-context" tag, I thought I should bring it up here. Maybe I could convert this into a burninate request for both tags ... — Adrian Mole 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
There's also scenarios where someone asks a question that can be trivially solved with a couple of canonical dupe targets. As an example perhaps someone has denormalised data in their database (comma delimited) and wants to join that to a table and return a denormalised result. There are canonical duplicates for splitting denormalised data and creating it, as well as 1,000's of other duplicates on the site; simply closing the question as a dupe of both seems more than fair when the combination of the 2 answers the question. There's no need to duplicate the solutions together in a single answer — Larnu 1 min ago
 
2:55 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NotThatGuy
It's quite frustrating to have these sort of inconsistencies exist on the site. VLQ and closure are part of the same dialog for a lot of people and (these days) closure very misleadingly says "needs improvement", which is blatantly false for a lot of posts that should be closed but probably can't be fixed through editing. If I didn't know all the context, I would very heavily lean toward flagging many or even most posts that should be closed as VLQ, which would unknowningly be an "arguable an abuse of the system" that would result in many of those flags getting declined. — NotThatGuy 55 secs ago
 
3:11 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Henckel
I love this graph. You should do it again, and ignore all the users below 100. I would argue if you don't even get to 100, then you aren't really playing the game. :) In which case TomServo will be closer to 89th percentile? — John Henckel 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@KevinB I don't think that a fine Question is closed isn't a concern is true. The user that tried in good faith an failed may never ask again, especially if their Question was fine. They can't fix it, because it's not possible to make a fine Question fine. Someone else may ask it, but not as well, or it may be asked many times very poorly by users that know the game and just don't care. The bigger the flood, the more important it is to deal with the really poor Questions, because no one has time to fix the mistakes. Some users would make good curators, if they weren't dissuaded by injustice. — Scratte 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@Scratte: "Dissuaded by justice?" Apparently you weren't here six months ago. — Robert Harvey 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
If the question truly was fine, asked well as it could be, and still closed, clearly it wasn't as truly fine as one thought. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
That's nice! Are you notified if gets closed as well? Or if it receives reopen votes? Both things could be useful as well. — yivi 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@Scratte Yes, because meta has absolutely no history whatsoever of proping up garbage questions — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@KevinB That is a false assumption. Some of those posts are brought out on meta, and the issue is fixed for that one post. The problem is as always only a small amount is brought out on meta. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@RobertHarvey I was here, that's another "injustice". I am still here. I see posts closed that are fine. Not just to me, but to one or two other users mentioning it in comments expressing casting reopen votes. And then.. nothing. But what can I do about it? Other than not curate at all, hoping that the active close voters will focus on the crap instead? — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@E_net4flagscomments: I used to explain my downvotes, but every time I did, I got into a "discussion" about it with the OP, so I don't do it anymore. If people want to learn how to use the site properly, they don't need my help to do that. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Scratte You keep bringing up this crusade of yours on comments wherever you feel it's relevant even if it's really not, but most of the actual specific examples you put forward, I feel are actually not up to scratch. — yivi 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@KevinB You can argue the same about all open Question. If it really is bad, then it would have closed already. Yet, some really bad ones don't get closed. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 flags comments
@RobertHarvey Indeed, those who are in the category of "power users" such as ourselves eventually learn that. My point is that the decision to never require feedback with downvotes in this platform will not change, IMO rightly so, even if there happen to be more askers and answerers wanting that. — E_net4 flags comments 43 secs ago
 
3:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jorjon
@jonrsharpe please don't use the term "garbage" to refer to other users question. You could use "very low quality" to the same effect. SO has already a problem being really harsh on newcomers, so there's no need to use harsh language as well. — Jorjon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
You're in the wrong place, pardner. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
lets see how many now fail, but it is a good start — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
@Jorjon I appreciate the feedback, but note that you cannot see the content. To quote the first one "i am a beginner and started like 2 weeks ago i want the question to show in the question field while the question is in array i am not abel to do it help <code dump>". Another literally contains "It looks like your post is mostly code; please add some more details.", copy-pasted from the warning that was encouraging the OP to improve their question. I don't think I've been unfair in my classification. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
... Oh, we're not through yet. :P — Catija ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
#5 has been addressed in Announcing tweaks to the Triage queue - “Requires editing” is renamed to “Needs community edit.”, and “Unsalvageable” is renamed to “Flag.” — Wai Ha Lee 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"“Needs author edit”" is a very welcome addition. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
Do you mean "but it's not a massive improvement" or "it's a massive improvement"? Based on your second paragraph I assume the former. — Wai Ha Lee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
@RobertHarvey I don't think there's a right place for this question, at least, not on Stack Exchange. — F1Krazy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Wai, I believe it's a massive improvement. Truth be told, "improvement" was not the hardest target to hit. The soon to be "old" labels are a bit of a disaster. — yivi 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
@Yivi That makes sense, I'll leave this here in case someone else is confused my that wording too. — Davy M 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I imagine they mean it opens the "Flag -> Needs Improvement" dialog directly, instead of simply the first screen of the flag dialog. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Maybe grouping the "good" buttons together and grouping the "bad" buttons together with a thin green/yellow/red outline (respectively, or whatever) would be a further improvement. E.g. "hey I'm giving this a kind of passing grade by clicking this button." or "hey, I'm clicking a red/bad button here which indicates this post is doomed". — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@TylerH I commented this on Davy's answer, but I imagine they mean it opens the "Flag -> Needs Improvement" dialog directly, instead of simply the first screen of the flag dialog — yivi 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Do we really need both options, "Flag." and "Needs author edit"? One option should be enough and if it sends the user to the flag dialog or the close vote dialog depends on the reputation? — Tom 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Re: “Needs author edit” - "except that it opens directly to the close dialog instead of the flag dialog" What if a reviewer has less than 3,000 reputation? Does it still go to the close flag dialog? — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Yes @Tom, because the first screen of the dialog offers options that do not necessarily involve an "author edit". E.g. spam, rude, vlq, dupe. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kristinalustig
Our philosophy here was to err on the side of surfacing more options to make it more obvious that "Needs author edit" is a possible choice, instead of giving people more room to make mistakes. Even though you can technically accomplish all you'd like from the Flag option, we want to make sure that questions that need author edit are properly routed. — kristinalustig ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@MartinBrisiak - Since you have made the mistake in the past, have been suspended for the mistake, and now are suspended again for what I presume is the same mistake (selecting the wrong option in the Triage queue). You need to stop making the same mistake, perhaps, taking a break until the Triage queue improvements are permanent will help. Selecting the incorrect option creates work for other community users. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
Short answer: no we don't. Long: see the percentage of edited after closure questions here. It makes no sense to waste all our energy as curators on all these when askers are not even willing to put a fraction of that into their own questions. The rising number of closed questions that are not reopened is merely a reflection of the fact that the number of users of the website has only increased over time. More users -> more bad content -> saturation -> higher bad/good content ratio. — Marco Bonelli 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
“Fair enough. But am I really expected to check the team list on every site a link points to?” - You should check the real question, every time, to make sure your making the best decision. That answer is suspiciously spammy — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@TylerH It is fine if you disagree. Please do not make up stuff for snarky, condescending comments. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
"Please do not make up stuff" - What was made up? it does have an answer score of 3200+, and you did imply you find it to not be a popular answer — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@Nick I'm obviously aware of the score, having referenced it, and I most certainly did not write that I "wouldn't call it a popular answer". — MisterMiyagi 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
No, I said you implied it, which you did, I do note that you've edited your comment to be "make up quotes", which is a more accurate account of the situation — Nick 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@Nick "borderline" is very definitely something else than "not". — MisterMiyagi 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Magnetron
Another change that could be done to the reopen queue is that only when a question is edited by the OP it goes to the reopen queue. For the majority of questions, I don't believe that other person than the OP could turn a bad question into a good one. Also, it could be implemented a check box for edits to mark it as a minor edit, so it doesn't get bump into main page and to reopen queues. — Magnetron 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Why not vote to delete the duplicates with multiple targets? They fail to point to a single question which means they are unlikely to be a good signpost. On the other hand, if the question is a good signpost, you can edit the list to point to the best target only. — Dharman 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Magnetron I think that's already mentioned in my answer, isn't it? "Not sending closed questions to the reopen queue until they got a relatively substantial first party edit [...]". — yivi 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Stewart
The "Needs author edit" is wonderful; I've encountered a high percentage of Triage Queue questions, where with a minor clarification from the OP (IE: What operating system) would make the question easy to answer, and useful for others. — Mark Stewart 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
I have dark theme on, and I don't really find the need to change it. However, it does have a status-planned, so maybe it;s just me. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
The simple banner has links to this help. Doesn't that need to be updated as well? It still mentions unsalvageable, etc. — toolic 54 secs ago
 
5:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica
I've encountered this in the past. I asked them to post it as an answer, which they never responded to. Eventually, I posted it myself as a Community Wiki answer noting that it was their comment. — EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
 
5:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kristinalustig
@toolic Thank you! I've just edited that guidance as well. Knew I forgot something. :) — kristinalustig ♦ 1 min ago
 
5:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Closing a question is not bullying, in the same way than upvoting a post is not flirting with the poster. Those things are orthogonal. — yivi 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pedro Rosa
its on the question? what kind of more debugging info do you need? To tell you the truth its a newbie error for sure , ive gave you the source code.. the print of the values on the end.. i dont know wat more i can give.. and yes its bulling people when you don t help them.. just close their question.. This is what is written near my name "Pedro Rosa is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering. Check out our Code of Conduct." take care? when? — Pedro Rosa 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pedro Rosa
in the fisrt image are the values that i get.. prediction should be less than 1 i assume.. — Pedro Rosa 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pedro Rosa
no error .. just wrong prediction values.. the code runs just fine.. just the values on the end seem to be wrong.. — Pedro Rosa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
So what was the exact error you're given? Which image causes it? — Makoto 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
Going to go on a limb and ask that this Meta question not be deleted...at least not while I'm trying to help the OP see things from our perspective... — Makoto 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
So what's right? What are you expecting to see? (Note that these are the kinds of things that you should be providing in your question so that people understand what the actual issue you're facing is. We're not mind readers, and we're not bullies. We're just trying to get on the same page.) — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pedro Rosa
the return is a float[] of 8 positions.. //emotion_table = {'neutral':0, 'happiness':1, 'surprise':2, 'sadness':3, 'anger':4, 'disgust':5, 'fear':6, 'contempt':7} and it should return a value on each position of something less than 1.. from 0 to 1.. it give me 4 sometimes.. — Pedro Rosa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
Does this answer your question? Why always the beginners?gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@PedroRosa: I'm not sure if you're seeing what I'm doing here, but what I'm trying to push you towards isn't trying to provide me with this information. The only thing I know about C# is how to play it on my saxophone and I don't know anything else about the subject you're trying to actually ask about. If you want to get this solved you have to put this in your question and be as clear and concise as possible so that actual subject matter experts can help you out. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@rene: Knowing how to play it on my sax doesn't mean my sax has any reeds. :P — Makoto 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pedro Rosa
i would.. but the question is closed.. nobody gave a chance of doing just this.. simply 3 minutes after the question.. somebody closed it.. with the argument of not being a question for this site.. clearly it is because stack overflow has that category.. if you also care to see the first comment was that didn't had the code.. and i went and put it there... so my conclusion is they didn't want to help.. just see the logs and i think you will get the same conclusion.. I thank you for asking..and caring.. — Pedro Rosa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@Makoto you asked for it. Please link us to a video where you do C# on your saxophone .... — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@PedroRosa: You can still edit your question. The question being closed doesn't stop that being edited. — Makoto 1 min ago
 
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