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4:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"I feel a simple script by the administrator can do the entire job." I respectively disagree. Something "simple" like UPDATE dbo.Posts SET Body = REPLACE(Body,'master','main'); would likely break the validity of 1000's (if not 10,000's) of answers and questions. It would, at least, need to maintain the casing, and that is (honestly) not very simple in SQL Server without CLR functions; it sucks at string manipulation. Changing all of these "offensive" words to something inoffensive would be a huge undertaking. — Larnu 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Timur Shtatland
@Machavity Thank you very much for the help throughout this process! — Timur Shtatland 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@TylerH I think the "manner" is the downvote prior to the deletion, quoting "suddenly 2 votes within 2 minutes of each other and then the delete immediately thereafter". — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Funk Forty Niner
Ok, stop with the damn edits. The expression is "I said my peace". This link merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/… doesn't know the expression. Peace and piece are two different f'ing things. — Funk Forty Niner 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pac0
Valid and interesting question, but I disagree (reasons already stated in comment above), hence the downvote. — Pac0 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@scopchanov Not directly. But not being a vegan nor killer, does not mean one doesn't just happily pay someone else to do the killing. Which is exactly what we do in the so called "civilized society". Pretended it's not happening or hiding it away is just silly, especially if one's a part of the process. I don't see any barbaric statements to be honest. Saying burger is apparently fine, while saying blood sausage (it's not made up, it used to be very common where I live) is what.. barbaric? — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
Holding your peace would've been more accurate...but fine, I'll leave your post alone. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Makoto So, you would be holding your piece hereafter, right? ;) — yivi 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Not really. You could flag your question and report revenge voting... but with it just being one vote, it's literally no different than if i were to go to your post and downvote it, and hardly worth the time getting employees involved to investigate since mods can't see who voted. — Kevin B 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by scopchanov
@Scratte, please find out the difference and then you will understand what am I against. — scopchanov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cirrusio
Thanks @KevinB - I don't really want to waste anyone's time, it's just obnoxious behavior. Probably happens to everyone. Thanks for your response. I think that answer is correct - nothing to be done in this case. I should know this answer, but can mods see the history of the post with all comments and answers despite being deleted? — cirrusio 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Scratte What's the issue with downvoting content you think is bad/delete-worthy? If you think a question is delete-worthy you should always downvote it as well. — TylerH 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
I can't read minds. I can only read what you posted here. I read it already. Being mystical doesn't help. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@TylerH While I completely agree with you, and I see no issue with the downvotes on this case: the delete votes were cast on the question, and the OP is mostly complaining about downvotes on their answer. — yivi 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
anyone above 10k rep can see the deleted answer and any comments it had that weren't deleted, and mods can see the deleted comments. Flagging rude/abusive behavior can be useful, if this particular user does it often, but I don't see any rude or abusive behavior in this instance. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Side note: MRE is requirement for all posts with code... even if author has more than 100 rep. "I don't like that char is signed byte and not unsigend byte in my C compiler" does not really need so much code as shown in the post... — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@TylerH I do not think I should downvote anything. Just as I should also not upvote anything. It's my choice, no? I don't downvote everything I think should be deleted. Some posts are made in good faith and I do not feel any urge to downvote something that is going to be deleted anyway. I prefer downvoting the posts are will stay visible. Also, votes disappear from my profile when the post is removed, which is really rather irritating. — Scratte 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dbush
He didn't know what he was talking about. I've answered the question. — dbush 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@yivi ..on the north lawn at dawn. Take 10 paces, turn and fire. You get the first choice of piece:) — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@yivi But I downvoted the answer as it contained mistakes. Executing that code produces errors (there's a missing mandatory parameter in mysqli_error()). Why should I not downvote it? I assume whoever else downvoted it also had a similar train of thought. I was the first to vote to delete the question which means I had to guarantee that there would be 2 other users willing to delete it too. In this case a downvote on a wrong answer is justified in my opinion. — Dharman 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
Historical note: This question relates to a declined "obsolete" comment flag which should have been a "too chatty" comment flag. In 2017 the comment flag options were changed so the "not constructive", "obsolete" and "too chatty" flags were combined into one "no longer needed" flag. The flag being declined due to it being an "obsolete" flag no longer applies, but the fact that "Thank you" comments shouldn't be posted in the first place and should be flagged (as "no longer needed") remains. — Wai Ha Lee 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Dharman I haven't argued against the downvotes, I was just responding to Tyler's comment because I thought there was a mistake there. I agree with "If you think a question is delete-worthy you should always downvote it as well", but the OP didn't post a question, that's all. I don't think you should justify your votes in any way. — yivi 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
An obvious category of edge cases: questions that are already asking about switching away from the master default like stackoverflow.com/q/42871542/3001761. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Scratte Right, we've already established you have nonsensical interpretations of how site actions should be used (e.g. they shouldn't). By "you" in my previous comment, I meant of course "someone in general". — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cirrusio
Thanks @dbush - thanks for closing the loop on the question. I really didn't understand and that was a great explanation. — cirrusio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cirrusio
@AlexeiLevenkov sorry - not following. What is MRE? — cirrusio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@TylerH That is uncalled for, really. Also, if you mention me at the start and explain how everyone should do things the way you want them to be done, you really shouldn't be surprised I tell you that users are free to do vote how they please. — Scratte 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
MRE: stackoverflow.com/help/minimal-reproducible-example (also referred to as MCVE, minimum, complete, verifiable example) — yivi 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Just wondering: What makes you think that particular user was the one to downvote the question? — MisterMiyagi 47 secs ago
 
4:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cirrusio
@MisterMiyagi Your implication is correct. I don't know exactly if it was the user in particular. It just so happened that the downvote happened simultaneous to a vote to close and the complete removal of the answer and the comments. The sudden removal shortly after the last comment from the user led me to deduce that the user was the one who downvoted it. — cirrusio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@MisterMiyagi it is expected (and even desired) to downvote question if you personally don't understand the question. It happens (often enough) that one reads the question and believe they understood it perfectly but than OP (or someone else) clarifies that particular way to read the question is wrong (like in this case). As result answer should downvote question as "unclear" in most cases (sometimes answerer just did miss some information in the post, than no downvote is needed). — Alexei Levenkov 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
(I'm not saying that it means that given downvote is from particular user, but it is expected and justified downvote if that was the case) — Alexei Levenkov 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 is cleaning up
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dheeraj M Pai
I agree UPDATE dbo.Posts SET Body = REPLACE(Body,'master','main'); will not solve the problem. Of course, it needs a little bit more complicated work. Like filtering all tags related to github and git and changing only if it contains git in the answer. This would rectify in a lot of answers but it is highly unlikely to screw up right once — Dheeraj M Pai 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
Ah, the C tag. I see the deleted answer. I myself had my own unpleasant interactions with that user. Can't comment on the downvoting, but it's to simply not engage them. — StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 14 secs ago
 
5:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@AlexeiLevenkov I disagree that the downvote was justified if the answerer downvoted. Since they edited their own answer and added "Help is pointless for rhis kind of users." it is very unlikely that they downvoted the question because it is unclear. — Tom 1 min ago
 
6:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Asteroids With Wings
@jonrsharpe That's not uncommon in the "friendly" tags like javascript, php and c#. It's no co-incidence that regulars' rep is so incredibly high in those tags. — Asteroids With Wings 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stephen
I can agree with this. Considering that there is the flutter-layout tag as well, this makes for a fair bit of overlap. Certainly there are flutter widgets that do not have anything to do with layout, and there may be layout issues that are not related to widgets, but the line has to be drawn somewhere. — Stephen 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 3limin4t0r
@AlterLagos You have to use the CDN variant. Most of the times these are provided in the "getting started" or "installation" section of the library documentation. If you can't find them there you can always try cdnjs.com or unpkg.com. react-bootstrap does offer its own documentation. Here the documentation also says that the components are available via the ReactBootstrap global. So you can do const { Button } = ReactBootstrap; (1/2) — 3limin4t0r 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Scratte Every time you bring up concerns about posts and we suggest the appropriate recourse, your response is "I don't use that site function because I don't want to experience a single rejected/rolled back edit or a single declined flag". The site would not be able to operate if people adhered to the "don't get out of bed in the morning for fear of something happening to them" ethos on a large scale. I think it's fine to expect a reasonable person to be OK with using site functions on a site they use. So yes, I think it is "foolish/absurd" — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 3limin4t0r
If the global is not documented I often use use something like console.log(Object.keys(window).filter(name => name.match(/bootstrap/i))) to find all globals that have "bootstrap" (case insensitive) in the name. Here you replace /bootstrap/i with something that is most likely going to match. If you cannot find it using this method you can always use console.log(Object.keys(window).sort()) to display all globals in alphabetical order. However this list will be a lot longer. (2/2) — 3limin4t0r 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
At least the asker was using the javascript snippets correctly. Mind you, that's a lot easier to do with javascript that it is with C code. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wizzwizz4
@DonaldDuck That's because you can't exclude special queries like that, so it's searching for things that don't include the string url:web.archive.org. — wizzwizz4 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 3limin4t0r
Note that by checking Use BabelJS / ES2015 you do enable JSX support, however ES2015 does not support async/await, so you have to work with promises. — 3limin4t0r 1 min ago
 
6:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@TylerH I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't feel the need to downvote a post that I mark for deleting. I do not understand how you can make such a huge jump from that to this.. whatever problem you have with me, I think it would be better if you stuck to the topic instead of going off completely sidetracked, like you did just now. — Scratte 1 min ago
 
7:09 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Why is this important? Why should the name of a technical term change? — Dharman 1 min ago
 
8:03 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alter Lagos
@3limin4t0r cool, for the next time I'll give a try. Thanks for the tip :) — Alter Lagos 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Outcome referenced at 14 min 14 secs in Stack Overflow podcast episode 283(?) - "Today we had a meeting about downvotes."Peter Mortensen 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Also, at 15 min 06 secs: "A little more than 600 users have casted 70% of the downvotes on Stack Overflow in the last 9 months." (paraphrased) — Peter Mortensen 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The outcome was referenced at 14 min 14 secs in Stack Overflow podcast episode 283(?) - "Today we had a meeting about downvotes.". Or perhaps just related. — Peter Mortensen 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Also, at 15 min 06 secs: "A little more than 600 users have casted 70% of the downvotes on Stack Overflow in the last 9 months." (paraphrased) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
8:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Isn't this already (implicitly) done when deciding what questions go to the triage queue? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@HansPassant ignoring tags works cool for folks using this site just for fun (answers, rep points etc). For those who rely on it in their job, not so well. "Sorry boss, I completed this task 10x slower than usual because related SO tag turned out to be polluted by useless noise dumped by help vampires and rep hunters" — gnat 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Isn't this already (implicitly) done when deciding what questions go to the triage queue? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Wish i could stomach listening to it so i could discuss it, but, meh — Kevin B 19 secs ago
 
9:13 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Perhaps add something about editing (to the "comments" section). Many new users are used to systems where it is impossible to edit anything, and they may not know it is possible to edit. — Peter Mortensen 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
@toolic The difference is likely due to changes in the design of SO and Meta.SO since 2015, when this answer was written :). — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
 
9:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
What does "elitist" actually mean? Deliberately keeping someone out (for whatever reason)? Or setting high standards? — Peter Mortensen 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
I just got a banner on top of this question saying "Want to improve this post? Post an answer and..." Yes, I want to improve the question, no, I don't think posting an answer improves it and btw. I already posted one. And this question has such a high score it hardly needs improvement. What a strange banner. — Trilarion 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Turamarth
Does the check consider deleted posts? The first question had been deleted 30 minutes before the second one was posted. — Turamarth 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by anatolyg
Oh yes, that must be it! — anatolyg 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@nivs1978 Fun fact. I learned how to program an Atari computer in Basic years before I learned English. I think I had a photocopy of a translated reference book and some example listings of simple programs. I was 6 or 7 years old. English terms like print were just literals to me. But that was then and now is now. — Trilarion 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
There is a huge need for education, and Stack Overflow (the company) ought to expand in that direction to help beginners by building something new (innovate) - or pair up with someone (for more than the usual few months, after which it is completely forgotten). Didn't they once announce some educational video material (not a single one was ever actually happened)? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
And now to the more interesting questions if manual edits from master to whatever are actually a good idea. — Trilarion 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve Bennett
I don't think the heading/bearing split is as clear-cut as that. Mapbox GL JS for instance uses bearing to describe the current rotation of the map. — Steve Bennett 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Lippert
The selection of answers in the survey may itself indicate of a problem with attitudes towards answers at SO corporate HQ. When I downvote an answer 90% of the time it is NOT because the answer is unclear, low effort or spam. It's because the answer is wrong. SO ought to be primarily concerned with whether or not the answers are actually correct. Refocus on what's important here. — Eric Lippert 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrick Mevzek
@MartinSmith Wikipedia does it closely like that by providing both a link to original source AND a link to a cached copy PLUS the date when it was cached. I find this the optimal way but requires more work. "Ideally" for me a platform such as SE should 1) detect links in posts 2) automatically retrieve them when posts is saved and store them "somewhere" (that is safe/permanent) and 3) edit posts to include both links to origin URL and to cached copy. — Patrick Mevzek 1 min ago
 
10:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"Like filtering all tags related to github and git and changing only if it contains git in the answer" That's still a heavy assumption. Just because a question references git doesn't mean that the code in it, or references to master are the master branch, and should be changed. — Larnu 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
As the moderator that handled your flags: I gave you a personal decline note. However, you had raised three flags l, so I did indeed copy my first decline message to the other two flags. I can understand you didn’t like the outcome but your insinuation that you got a canned response is not appreciated. Please be aware moderators are volunteers and I spent quite some time investigating the situation, and so did a CM I had asked to assist. The flags were taken seriously, but in the end had no merit. — Martijn Pieters ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel Widdis
@SteveBennett thanks for weighing in. That SME knowledge (or my lack of it) is why I opened this for discussion rather than trying to fix it myself. — Daniel Widdis 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
As for not pinging you: our moderator tools let me pull up a list of deleted posts trivially, there was no need to ask you for such a list. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@Scratte the reason the roomba is limited to a certain set of criteria is because within those criteria we can trust a bot to do the deleting, without human intervention. Do not take those parameters as anything more than that, there is plenty of scope for humans to make additional judgement calls about the value of posts that fall outside of those narrow bounds. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
 
11:05 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Pick "post", not "time". You'll see two events when clicking the small triangle. — Scratte 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joseph Wood
@Scratte, wow.... I have never seen that. Still seems strange though. Like some sort of serially voting. What are the odds? Thanks for the help... maybe post as an answer? — Joseph Wood 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
I'm imagining: Two users doing the same type of homework chatting over the internet. One finds your post, tells the other. They're ecstatic over the find. Upvotes :) — Scratte 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@JosephWood pretty big actually. Imagine a company chat channel: I found a post on Stack that solves our problem! <link>. Followed by two people upvoting. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joseph Wood
@MartijnPieters, your link was very helpful. — Joseph Wood 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by πάντα ῥεῖ
I am pretty sure we have a dupe for that FR. Just too lazy looking it up now, — πάντα ῥεῖ 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joseph Wood
@Scratte I feel a bit silly right now — Joseph Wood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joseph Wood
@MartijnPieters, in your experience, should I delete the question as that is an option? — Joseph Wood 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Yes, I see.. the post was closed. No Answers ;) — Scratte 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hans Passant
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
That’s up to you. Duplicate posts do serve as signposts to the canonical, giving search engines additional keywords. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marquizzo
@HansPassant That "chameleon question" post doesn't address my issue. This isn't about a question that keeps changing over time. It's about me saying I'm unable to help further, but the OP keeps coming back twice a week to repeatedly ask "can you help me?". Chat rooms, helping further, and asking nicely don't apply to my situation. — Marquizzo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Y2020-09
I read the question, and looked it up... So I just thought I'd mention this (important) point... :) — Y2020-09 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Y2020-09
Fox GAMING NTF acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/NTF NTF Nine Tailed Fox (gaming) A kumiho (gumiho) (Korean pronunciation: [kumiho]; Korean: 구미호; Hanja: 九尾狐, literally "nine-tailed fox") is a creature that appears in the tales and legends of Korea. Deriving from ancient Chinese myths and folk-lores, a fox that lives a thousand years turns into a kumiho, like its Japanese and Chinese counterparts. It can freely transform, among other things, into a beautiful woman often set out to seduce boys, and eat their liver or heart (depending on the legend). — Y2020-09 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@toolic - good find - flagging for disassociation may help + remove all comments from OP so they no longer can be pinged in that thread. Stocking is still possible, but one need 50+ points to comment on other questions so less likely. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@Marquizzo FR would be duplicate, you may want convert question into "support" so suggestions for this particular case can be added - flagging for generic moderator attention is likely an option (would need mod feedback), flag to disassociate is likely to be granted so (as specific workaround). (But that is not an answer for FR). — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Wording of the question is unrelated to answers (in addition to explicitly opinion-based)... I don't see why it should be re-opened in the current state... — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
 
11:55 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stevec
@AlexeiLevenkov I edited to clarify — stevec 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
Since there was a Meta and apparently the community voted the synonyms in, I went ahead and merged them. Everything is now tagged [gsap] — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
 
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