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12:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CYREX
@alexei levenkov thank you, i didn't know that i should suggest features in there. — CYREX 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Y2020-09
Well, yeah, if you look Stack Overflow as a great beginners reference for using, say, Java (which I knew well before coming here) ... or Java Script (which I learned with the aid of Stack Overflow) - then, yes, Stack Overflow's database will help you a lot. Java 1 came out in 1996. JSP, Servlet's, C, C++ some of these languages are 30 or even 40 years old... (I'm 45 years old)... It is next to impossible to find anything at all about many of the more advanced services that have since been developed - questions get called 'irrelevant' and 'spam' and are closed. — Y2020-09 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CYREX
how about instead of getting downvoted, suggesting me to post that question in the right web page like alexei did? — CYREX 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
I cannot think of any way this could be done. Just the admin alone...~~shudder~~ I mean, freelancers are usually bound by NDA's, and that runs directly contrary to SO goals:( — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
Such questions should be closed and deleted ASAP. That should ensure that SO users, and SO itself, is shielded from any subsequent legal actions, (IANAL). — Martin James 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Just to get things clear - I did downvote your suggestion because I think it is bad idea in general (in addition to non-ideal presentation in this particular post, usually people offer at least some - even if strange - reasoning why it could be beneficial for the site) — Alexei Levenkov 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by charlietfl
What is the question here? — charlietfl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CYREX
ok, i posted my suggestion in feature-request, should i delete this question now? — CYREX 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Y2020-09 "if you look Stack Overflow as a great beginners reference ". Well, it isn't. Never has been. Aside from that, I have no idea whatsoever what you are trying to say. SO even has COBOL and FORTRAN questions, so? And you can also find questions about hip new tech X or latest framework Y. So I'm not sure I get your point. — Polygnome 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CYREX
do u see an answer there? — CYREX 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Does this answer your question? Provide freelance serviceRobert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@RobertLongson I closed it other way around as this one got an answer. (Indeed ideally should this should have been closed as duplicate of previous one, but since both are essentially identical I don't see much loss) — Alexei Levenkov 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Y2020-09
Advanced questions about successful websites and applications are almost no where to be found. There is simply no way you could deny this. More advanced topics require using the name of the App, the name of the Website, the name of the library, and such questions are simply and immediately called SPAM and Off-Topic. — Y2020-09 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Y2020-09 I have never seen a good question being closed because it was too precise. Closing questions as spam is also very rare, because the definition of spam on So is very narrow. I'm not seeing what you are seeing. Maybe you can provide some examples? If it happens so frequently, I'm sure you can provide at least a few examples. — Polygnome 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Duniho
@SteveBennett: "How would you even know if someone replied to you hours lately" -- chat rooms work almost identically to comments. In particular, if someone has replied to your comment, typically they will @<username> you; if they do, you get notification in the usual "inbox" area of the nav bar. Furthermore, chat rooms can be create ad hoc, so if you are in fact having an ongoing discussion with one or more other people, you would typically create a room for that. There won't be any irrelevant or "intervening" conversation. — Peter Duniho 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Y2020-09
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CYREX
but the freelance platform will be separated from free platform so the user here has 2 options: ask a good question and keep improving his/her score or use freelance platform and get paid assistance where stackoverflow would cut its fees. I know there is lots of freelance platform such as upwork, but stackoverflow could be much better than those. — CYREX 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@CYREX: if you have a great business plan for this idea, then why not go ahead and create this platform yourself and rake in the profits? But how would it be any different from any other Programmer-For-Hire platform? What would distinguish it? It is separate from SO as you state, and so it would be its own business. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rich
Ahh nice. Thanks for the info. By the way I wasn’t the person who downvoted your answer. — Rich 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CYREX
ok. delete the question or close it. one thing sure about stackoverflow is not for — CYREX 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
I've started things off I think you have enough rep in the tag to vote for the synonyms. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
 
1:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Rounin Whats even the question in there? How to select an element by selector? I'm sure we already have an Q&A covering document.querySelector[All]. How to change attributes of an element? There a Q&A from 2010 about that. How to register an event handler on a DOM element? I'm sure we got that covered. So whats the actual problem the OP is having with converting their code? One could say the question is way too broad because in reality its like five questions in one. The actual problem the OP is having with converting remains unclear. Its looks like a zero-effort code dump. — Polygnome 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by charlietfl
A community haggling over business transactions is antithetical to a cooperative community of volunteers helping build a knowledge base — charlietfl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Turnerj
Agreed. Knowing what the problem is called (or at least being able to describe it well) is definitely important for either finding an existing solution or asking an easier-to-understand question. Often it is dissecting specific keywords/phrases from error messages or from the combination of tool + desired action (eg. "css rounded corners" leads to the CSS "border-radius" property). — Turnerj 1 min ago
 
1:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
We don’t want a community of users who want to be paid for their help. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve Bennett
Cool, good to know. I can't imagine as an answerer ever wanting to invest that effort into something that makes no contribution to my public profile, which makes me skeptical that as a questioner anyone else would either, but I guess people are different. — Steve Bennett 1 min ago
 
2:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
We already have squabbles about rep points - just imagine the amount of grief getting money involved will bring. How would you moderate that? Also please note that we can afford to answer at our leisure and enforce guidelines in part because we do not charge anyone. Also, a paying customer is right even if they don't know what an if statement is or asks you about an NPE, you cannot demand to do proper research, tag or format correctly (well, one can try and see how well their business will fare) from them - and this is really horrifying to think about. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by billynoah
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
You make some valid points, but there was no real tag to merge this into. Merges work best when there's some clear overlap between tags, and there's no one tag it really overlapped with. Everything is retagged now, but ML models != MVC models != ORM models — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
Could we not use the acronym by itself? Maybe [greensap-ap] so it's clear? Acronym-only tags have a poor history if another project comes along with the same one — Machavity ♦ 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
I went ahead and burninated since it was clear the tag was bad and it had 90 questions. But we do prefer the checklist be used. I suspect it got some downvotes if only for that — Machavity ♦ 41 secs ago
 
3:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Leffler
Is the trouble that the spam flag doesn't give you a chance to explain why it is spam? I would tend to use a custom flag and start the explanation with Spam: and an explanation of why I think it is spam. That would help the (overworked) moderators understand what you've seen and why it is spam. — Jonathan Leffler 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@JonathanLeffler that's not a bad idea, the only issue is that custom flags tend to be handled fairly slowly due to the fact that moderators are overworked, and ideally spam should be removed from the site as soon as practical. — Nick 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Leffler
@Nick — So, should we suggest "The spam flag option should allow (require?) a comment (like the "needs moderator attention flag") to explain why the post is spam"? — Jonathan Leffler 1 min ago
 
4:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@JonathanLeffler I don't think require is necessary; a lot of spam seems fairly obvious, but certainly allowing a comment could be helpful. — Nick 1 min ago
 
5:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Sorry if I don't know the history, but by "As of GSAP 3.0 which came out in November of last year, all of those different versions have been deprecated/consolidated into a single GSAP core file.", did you mean that the older versions are now gone, non-functional, or rebranded? While it's good to think about future usage, how about historical questions before GSAP 3.0? Will those still make sense after the synonym? — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
@customcommander In general, we don't reopen questions just to close them for another reason (please see this answer). While the reduction in close/reopen votes from 5 to 3 and gold-badge dup-hammers, significantly reduce the work, it's still a minimum of 3 people (4 votes) to do it here (or one moderator who's a Subject Matter Expert). There's not much gain over just leaving a comment with a link to the dup. IMO, it would only be worthwhile to seek out doing so if it's expected the question will be a good signpost for the duplicate, which is difficult to determine in advance. — Makyen ♦ 1 min ago
 
5:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
@customcommander Your question here was fine, although many will feel it's a duplicate, even tagged as specific-question, as you haven't really indicated why the general policy wouldn't apply. Unfortunately, with the author of the question you're asking deleting it, your question becomes moot (i.e. closed as no-repo). As to comments about reputation, reputation doesn't matter as to a question being on-topic or not. People are just a frustrated that the question you're asking about is of lower quality, a duplicate, and has an author with a relatively high reputation. — Makyen ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Paresh P.
@depressedcoder I did post my concern in Stackoverflow meta by tagging support and with all the evidence I have. And then the moderators addresses your concern. — Paresh P. 8 secs ago
 
5:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nathan Basanese
@Scratte case in point, here, not because of the false appearance of agreement, but because of the sheer number of now-deleted answers: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/354978/…Nathan Basanese 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nuclear03020704
Never thought clickbait would be a thing in SO. I'm so wrong. — Nuclear03020704 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@Nuclear03020704 well, I tried to get rid of it quickly! :) — Nick 20 secs ago
 
6:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cris Luengo
The question is why Makyen undeleted the spam question twice? stackoverflow.com/posts/64522181/timelineCris Luengo 1 min ago
 
7:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@NathanBasanese I don't understand what point you are trying to make. I can't see if there are any deleted Answers on that post, but I also cannot see any negatively scored non-deleted Answers. — Scratte 1 min ago
 
7:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eugen Konkov
@lvar: Notice, that in my example I use scale 120%. That example does not. — Eugen Konkov 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Grimm
I was expecting a meta post on a question with a vague but enticing title, but instead got a post on ordinary spam. I feel ... clickbaited? — Andrew Grimm 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
It would surprise me if that was a different bug, but who knows. I'll retract my close vote. That being said, I can't reproduce the issue. What browser/version are you using? — Ivar 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eugen Konkov
@lvar: FF v79.0 — Eugen Konkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
Does this answer your question? Long code line breaks out of commentIvar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sinatr
Technically all those have to be replaced with a single mvc tag. It doesn't make difference whenever you are asking about model, controller or viewcontroller. There can't be an expert in model model, rather expert in mvc or mvvm (also has model), etc. — Sinatr 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Ivar That is a post closed as a duplicate :) — Scratte 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Marks
@RobertLongson "Hooray, this question was reopened! Anyone can answer it now." - Checking the question shows it as Closed and deleted. Clearly not a "Hooray" situation. — Samuel Marks 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
scaling is still not confirmed to be supported. If the glitch doesn't happen at 100% this is status-bydesignrene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
They’re currently reworking the review UI anyway. — user4642212 1 min ago
 
8:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Okay, thanks for verifying! — rene 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eugen Konkov
@rene: At 100% it also out of screen — Eugen Konkov 1 min ago
 
9:11 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rounin
The question relates to the OP not knowing that there isn't a standard automated process for converting backwards and forwards between jQuery and Javascript.They want to know how to convert and they need to have it explained that no standard automated process exists. You are focusing too much on the ultimate desired outcome and not enough on the actual question the OP is asking. — Rounin 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
Middle-click or Ctrl-click the link instead. — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Control+Click or Command+Click, depending on your OS, and that's it. No need to change the defaults for everyone else. — yivi 1 min ago
 
9:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jared Smith
@rene at work our DBA and I have a running joke that we don't get paid for already knowing the answers, we get paid because we know enough to know what questions to ask. I don't think there's a shortcut to that: you learn it the hard/long way of using different tools in different problem-solving contexts over and over again. Or to put it in a different way for the purposes of meta SO, I kinda doubt it's something we can help too much with more than we already are. — Jared Smith 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jared Smith
@Rounin I think the underlying argument here is obligatory vs. supererogatory. If the question is such that it requires interaction with the OP to determine what the actual question is, do we have an obligation to pursue it or is doing so merely out of the goodness of our hearts when and if we feel like it? I realize that latter option sounds both a little harsh and a lot random, and it is, but remember we're only human, and we're volunteers. — Jared Smith 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Rounin Yes, they are asking how to fish on a site dedicated to answer Q&A about fishing. This site is for answering questions like "What bait do I need to catch wintermouth bass?" not "I have never fished, how do I do that?". The former is a precise, on the point fishing problem, the latter is an overly broad, not sensibly Q&A style answerable question. — Polygnome 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rounin
@Polygnome - you make an entirely fair point, but it was not at all my impression that the OP intends to ask an overly broad question. Rather they want to know whether the function they're looking for is called jquery2js() or jquerytojavascript(). That's not a broad question - that's a straightforward Q&A. The issue is that the OP doesn't know enough to know that such a function does not exist. — Rounin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rounin
@JaredSmith - Different people are here for different reasons. I'm here to help people learn, not least because I'm extremely grateful to all the other people on here who have helped me to learn. Other people are here (it seems) because they mistake SO for a not-for-profit community-focused initiative like Wikipedia. — Rounin just now
 
10:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@EugenKonkov then just remove the 120% zoom issues from the post entirely. Anything other than the default 100% is unsupported — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
 
10:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
This obviously isn’t exclusive to Stack Overflow; the feature request to allow this lives on Meta Stack Exchange: Let us delete our own comments even if the post is locked. “But I don't want to vote on it, I want to delete it.” — Clicking “Delete” is a special type of vote. — user4642212 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
This behaviour is currently as per design... I've deleted the comment anyway but the link @user4642212 points out has the background info. — Jon Clements ♦ 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mkrieger1
Apparently it has been removed by now for some reason. — mkrieger1 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Oddly, I cannot see that comment of yours. — Scratte 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mkrieger1
I was just about to do that ;) — mkrieger1 just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Perhaps you should edit your post to ask what to do? As in "Should I flag it?" :) — Scratte 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Rounin If OP were actually asking that, you'd have a point. But nowhere in their question can I see that they ask about a tool that automatically converts jQuery to plain JS. And if they were asking for such a tool - tool recommendations are also off-topic, very explicitly. — Polygnome 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Rounin There has been a rift on the SO user base for a long time. Those who came for the original mission to build a Q&A repository, and those who think So should be a helpdesk for learning. SO wasn't conceived as helpdesk for learning. I agree that a heldpesk for learning would be very, very beneficial for many newcomers - but I don't think SO should become one, because I don't think it'll work for a long time without paying the tutors. Experts here contribute because sharing knowledge helps everyone. Tutoring only helps one person. — Polygnome 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Rounin And btw, you are absolutely right about SO being for-profit. That is something I have a gripe with, too. I'd much prefer a world where SO was run by a non-profit organisation. But reality is different, and we have to cope with that. — Polygnome 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greg-449
This is Meta Stack Overflow, for discussions about how Stack Overflow works. Your question is off-topic here and belongs on the main site. — greg-449 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Before you post your Question on main, please see Minimal, Reproducible Example. Elaborate on "doesn't seem to work". What is it doing? What do you want it to do.. What is a Station? — Scratte 1 min ago
 
11:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Shog9 exactly, which is why simply sniping it out of existence is the most effective way of dealing with these. For me, the biggest waste of time is discussing about it, rather than just removing it. — Braiam 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rounin
@Polygnome - We agree that there's a good reason for tool requests to be off-topic. Again, in this instance I didn't get the impression the OP was asking for a tool. Just whatever the standard, native approach is (which you and I know doesn't exist). — Rounin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Rounin The fact that we argue about what the OP might have wanted to actually ask about already shows that the question was also very unclear. In plain reading, its too broad. If interpreted more loosely, its an off-topic tool request. If you think it can be interpreted in yet another way, it needs to be edited and clarified, if its then on-topic it can be re-opened. But arguing about what the OP might have meant is a sure sign that the question is unclear and a bad fit for a Q&A repository. Its great for a helpdesk/tutoring site, where exploring ones problem is part of learning, though. — Polygnome 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@CrisLuengo indeed. I suspect they might be the person who can answer this question. — Nick 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
good written, but offtopic in SO maybe coderview is a better fit — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NITIN AGARWAL
@nbk Thank you! I even posted it in codereview, but didn't got any answer there , and i got a comment which said : Generally code review is about improving code ability, checking whether the code follows a particular implementation may not be possible if no one else knows that implementation. Please check the help center like I first suggested, it should answer most of your questions . Thatswhy I posted it in SO — NITIN AGARWAL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
That comment in no way directed you to post the question on Stack Overflow, right? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
you have at least problems, for one we don't understand your algorithm and so can not determune if it is correct or can be improved, because we have no test data, were we could test improvements, if we are inclined. So run your code see if it urks somehwere and ask if someone can help you improve it. But the question is to general and the problem too broad — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NITIN AGARWAL
@yivi If i can't post that question on codereview nor stackoverflow, then where should i post it? I can't post it on codereview because the comment said code review is about improving code ability, checking whether the code follows a particular implementation may not be possible if no one else knows that implementation . — NITIN AGARWAL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I can't tell you if it's on-topic on CR, apparently the problem is that you are asking about an implementation that's not well known. But if it's not on-topic there, it doesn't become on-topic here. Only some questions are fit for Stack Exchange sites, you can't find an adequate site for every possible question. — yivi 49 secs ago
 
12:23 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
 
12:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zach Saucier
@AndrewT. Yes, old questions will still make sense. The only downside is that people who want to use the old version and are searching for questions on Stack overflow wouldn't be able to filter by tag as much as much. — Zach Saucier 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mathieu Guindon
FYI it seems the click count hasn't updated in a long, long time. Are these ads still being served? Guts say something's broken... We're still a few months ahead of what would be 1H 2021 (assuming a January launch this time), so there's still time to fix things =) — Mathieu Guindon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
How do you help your students (in the described situation)? Asking them rhetorical or leading questions? — Peter Mortensen 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zach Saucier
@Machavity The library is extremely well known in the web animationIf we just made the GSAP tag a synonym of greensock-ap wouldn't we still face the same issue if another thing came along with the same acronym? — Zach Saucier 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
as I commented there, the answer of the duplicate works for you (here is a proof: jsfiddle.net/wc9ry8jm) and has better support than the one you accepted so the duplicate apply to you. No need to do more action, you question is still valid with its answer but is simply closed as duplicate — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@ZachSaucier It would be a synonym of the longer tag to prevent that. If something else came along with GSAP, they'd need a more specific tag. We recently had to do that with the babel tags and create python-babelMachavity ♦ 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zach Saucier
@Machavity The library is extremely well known in the web animation world as GSAP (not as much for what it means) so using greensock-ap as the tag may bring some confusion. Plus wouldn't we still have to switch things around if something else use the GSAP acronym anyway? GSAP has been around 12+ years and I'm unaware of a similar acronym in or outside of programming. — Zach Saucier 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
^ and also without the min-width:100%: jsfiddle.net/wc9ry8jm/1 ... an inline-block element has a shrink-to-fit behavior so it apply a fit-content width to its content (all this explained in the duplicate) — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roddy of the Frozen Peas
The problem is that if I somehow managed to get SO's search to find that duplicate question, it wouldn't have answered my question because the answer was in another castle. — Roddy of the Frozen Peas just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roddy of the Frozen Peas
Doesn't change the fact that it didn't work. fit-content isn't even mentioned on the duplicate, and it did work. Therefore the duplicate -- if it's supposed to have the "answer" -- is incomplete. Also other than IE 11, the support for fit-content seems perfectly reasonable. — Roddy of the Frozen Peas 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sean
There is not enough guidance in the Help Center to tell users not to accept this specific edit. And a repository of information in the Help Center shouldn't take the place of adequate UI instructions. — Sean 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JNat
You mean the click counts here, @MathieuGuindon? If so, I just tried clicking on one of the ads, and after refreshing that page the click gone had gone up by 1 — so it looks all is well there? — JNat ♦ 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roddy of the Frozen Peas
It didn't work in my application. As I indicated in my comment on the question. Maybe it's because my whole set up is nested inside of flexbox, I have no idea -- it's a single component within an SPA I can't go about putting the whole darn website into an example. :-/ — Roddy of the Frozen Peas 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
Doesn't change the fact that it didn't work --> I prooved with 2 examples that it does work. — Temani Afif 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomerikoo
Aren't the two bullets above enough to ignore such edit (at the very least skip it if you don't want to be the one rejecting)? — Tomerikoo 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
It didn't work in my application. --> no one will see your application. It works based on the code and the context you provided. I will not judge the duplicate based on something I don't have and no one will do. The duplicate apply to the question you asked, as simple as that. Any context out of your question is out of the scope and you cannot use it as an argument to proove that the duplicate doesn't apply (unless you edit your question to include a full example showing that the code won't work and in this case I might find another better duplicate) — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sean
No, those are instructions for editors, not reviewers. — Sean 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
A minor clarification: SOCVR is indeed a place to help delete spam, but if you want to get it into Smoke Detector the better place to ask is Charcoal HQ, which is where Smoke Detector is operated. If you suspect there's a pattern, you have to mention it there because SOCVR has a strict rule against discussing users — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomerikoo
Those are basically the same... You review according to the guidelines of how posts should be edited — Tomerikoo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roddy of the Frozen Peas
Look, I don't care about this question in specific. The duplicate does not answer my question. The answer I did get, did. Should I add the answer I did get to the duplicate? That's all I want to know. The answer to my problem -- which maybe someone else will have in the future, who knows -- is not present on the duplicate — Roddy of the Frozen Peas 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sean
They're not the same. And correcting all spelling and style errors in a post is a significant improvement and should be encouraged. — Sean 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "also out of": Do you mean "also goes out of"? (missing word?) — Peter Mortensen 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
The duplicate does not answer my question. --> it does (I will insist on this because I have a proof and you don't have any proof) and I don't see why you should add an answer to your question into another question. That answer apply to your case and it should be there. Anyone facing the same issue will see it linked to your question AND will also see the duplicate that contain another working answer. We don't need the same answer in different places. — Temani Afif 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "element out of": Do you mean "element goes out of"? (missing word?) — Peter Mortensen 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "When I on top it is OK": Do you mean "When I am on top it is OK"? (missing word?) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
The cleanest solution would be a merge (moderator action), which would move the answers to the new question. Need a bit more clarity that the new answer is worth moving, though. Hopefully this Meta clarifies that — Machavity ♦ 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
If the result in your application is different than the one you would get with the code provided in your question, one could argue that your question is incomplete. If you complete the question, it may stop being a dupe (or become a dupe of a different question). — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "...site quality will plummet": That is what happened to the hyphen site (not direct monetary transactions, but free memberships for answers) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
@Machavity I don't think a merge apply here, both questions are quite different but the solution (with the explanation) apply to both. It should be kept as duplicate because it will trigger different searching results. — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
What is "positionint"? Is it literal? — Peter Mortensen 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
"There is nobody else out there monitoring the LQ queue who is going to be able to edit the question" on SO, VLQ flags on questions only lead to triage, not to the LQ review queue. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@TemaniAfif Just FYI, I mention it because copying an answer is a poor solution (robs the original author of any benefit). Merging is preferable, but only if they're exactly the same question. I wasn't to that point before and I'm not any closer to that point now. — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
I would say opening in a new tab/window breaks user expectations. — Peter Mortensen 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
Without having a concrete problem description of what a "Bahdanau attention" is, it'll be off-topic on Code Review too. The concept is not well-known enough for others to be able to understand without a precise description in the question. — CertainPerformance 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
@Machavity Yes and I am also against copying the solution to the other question because it's not suitable in this case. We should simply do nothing here. — Temani Afif 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
I always wonder how can the concept of a tag be on topic and the concept itself be ambiguous (adj. Of doubtful or uncertain nature; wanting clearness or definiteness; difficult to comprehend or distinguish; indistinct; obscure.). — Braiam 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christopher Moore
@Braiam The tag has flutter in the name and asking about flutter is definitely on-topic, but it's unclear when this tag is supposed to be used and I don't believe there's a need for the tag in the first palce. — Christopher Moore 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MPelletier
@Kos You gotta account for: visits since the edit (and from this post), visits since the deletion, visits before the site went bad. And out of the visits that were during the time of the compromised link, how many people actually clicked that link (we know of one). There are many unknowns. — MPelletier 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
Would a merge with [flutter] be the easier path here? — Machavity ♦ 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christopher Moore
@Machavity Perhaps. I'm not familiar enough with the different actions that can be taken for tags. A merge would change all instances of [flutter-widget] with [flutter] right? — Christopher Moore 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
Correct. It also creates a synonym, which prevents recreation of the tag — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christopher Moore
@Machavity I think a merge would be appropriate. — Christopher Moore 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
I checked and there's only 4 questions not also tagged [flutter]. If we do this, it will have minimal impact — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by scopchanov
What is your question? — scopchanov 1 min ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rounin
@Polygnome - I think you are right that the OP's question might have been clearer. But I also think the reason why the question isn't as clear as it might be (and this happens very often) is because to ask the question with superlative clarity the OP would need to have almost an answerer's level of knowledge. It is - I hope you agree - absurd to expect a questioner on a Q&A site to have the same level of knowledge as an answerer. This is why I so often get the impression that SO is intolerant of individuals without a formal CS background. — Rounin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@ChristopherMoore again, is either "of doubtful or uncertain nature" or it's unambiguous and on topic. You can't pick and choose which words represent the topic. The whole flutter widget is on topic or it's ambiguous. — Braiam 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
What is the process for recovering from a "permanent" review suspension? --> the Moderator forget to extend it after 365 days ;) — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
One way to show that they learned from their mistakes could be curation outside of review queues like amassing helpful flags or voting to close/reopen questions where necessary. Maybe, over time it might help. — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Machavity that particular issue is now resolved. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kos
@MPelletier sure, we talking about unknowns when something bad happened, but we definitely don't do this to celebrate how helpful SO is, for example: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/401930/…Kos 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
If it's actually "permanent", I wouldn't expect one can get out of it, as with any other kind of perma-ban. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christopher Moore
@Braiam I suppose that's technically true. It's definitely ambiguous so we can't definitively say that it's on-topic, but it is probably on-topic. That doesn't change that there should be some action taken with the tag however. — Christopher Moore 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Columbia
@yivi see my link above. A user was able to get out of a thousand-year "permanent" chat ban by asking nicely. They then promptly got banned again when it was determined that they hadn't actually learned their lesson, but that's beside the point. Suppose the user in question has learned their lesson - how would they prove it? — Robert Columbia 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
Reincarnation as a responsible user? — Martin James 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
You're not making a very strong case. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Again, I wouldn't expect for there to be any kind of regular process to revert such a suspension. If it's permanent, only something exceptional can revert it. A kind of exception that it's hard and undesirable to normativize. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
As the answer you link to states, this "permanent" suspension is not really permanent, as it needs to be prolonged manually. I expect the way to recover from it is just wait and hope the mods forget to extend it, then quickly prove you can review, as you really must have done something exceptional to make moderators put in work every year to keep you from reviewing. As for that user seeking restoration from his chat ban, if you read the history on it it's a clear case for why such restoration shouldn't be granted because he got suspended again soon after, annoying people in the process — Erik A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
I wouldn't expect them to recover from this. Bans from the review queue are as lenient as they get, especially given that you can usually come back from them after a year max (manual maximum ban). If you're stuck at an indefinite ban level, you've messed up enough that the mods see it as less work to keep you out of the queues than to let you loose in them. — Makoto 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
+1 For teaching me a new way to search for tags — zcoop98 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Rounin I don't think a formal background has anything to do with it. If someone came to me IRL with that question and I had some time to spare, I'd consider this a very teachable moment. I'd sit back, smile, and ask them what their problem is. And have them explain their problem. I'd then ask them a few pointed questions like "Do you know what jQuery('#foo') does?". "No." "So how would you go about finding out what it does?". I'd guide them to ask themselves the question they need an answer for. And then, when they have broken down the problem, let them find out themselves before returnin — Polygnome 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Rounin At the end of the day, I'd not have given them fish, but taught how to fish. The problem is that SO is not a teaching platform. Its fundamentally not what SO was designed for. SO was designed to create a repository of knowledge, not individual one-on-one tutoring/counseling. And for very good reason. Because while I might do hat for a person I'm heavily invested in, e.g. colleagues, I'd not do that for free on the web. What I'd do is participate in creating a repo of knowledge for everyone. Because while I contribute, I also get something back. — Polygnome just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Rounin And the problem is that SO has become a very successful platform, and people come here expecting to find tutoring/counseling, and then think SO is unwelcoming when they don't get their hand held. That may be true, it isn't very welcoming for newcomers who need counseling/tutoring. But that was never the goal. And by blurring the lines more and more, the confusion and thus frustration becomes greater and greater. And while people tolerate SO profiting from creating a shared knowledge base, they don#t want to be exploited by SO as free counselors/tutors. — Polygnome 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
I like the idea of an historical lock because I don't like seeing posts with immense effort put into them (which this sounds to be) go by the wayside. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
I'm finding the next potential question also relevant: Why would a user want to get out of the ban? — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
I'd be very disappointed if chocolate and/or coffee weren't involved... possibly alcohol for those who partake. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Epodax
And / or a very fancy dinner @hereticmonkey — Epodax 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ワイきんぐ
I usually try to get them to answering their own questions but providing a lot of hints. When that doesn't work I explain everything very slowly up to the point where they got the error. Sometimes I get creative and invent hypothetical scenarios. If everything fails then I simply show them the correct answer and get them to explain to me why it is correct. But it also depends on the student. Some have more patience than others — ワイきんぐ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
@PeterMortensen I believe the last one is supposed to be "positioning" but the OP overshot the "g". — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catsunami
Oh if only every question I ever viewed on SO helped me... — Catsunami 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@RobertColumbia FWIW, that forgiven chat user is now permanently chat banned (10k link) because they didn't learn. Some people just refuse to learn, no matter how many chances you give them. — Machavity ♦ 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Machavity I would consider GSAP to be the more appropriate name vs GreenSock. However, I do think the two should be synonymized (if they aren't already) to each other in some direction. — TylerH 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jared Smith
@Polygnome while I basically agree with everything you said, I think you're missing an important part of that formal CS background: it increases the chance of successful acculturation for two reasons. 1) It weeds out a lot of people who lack the interest or intelligence, and 2) it can open up some opportunities (if you're at a good institution and you take advantage) to be mentored in to the culture by older students, TAs, and possibly even professors. — Jared Smith 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drag and Drop
On my list of things to read If I reach 10k. — Drag and Drop 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel Widdis
@Braiam if you are so eager to snipe the tag, perhaps you, or the OP, can follow the Burnination Process requirements for tags with over 1000 questions, as I've stated repeatedly. The tag won't be removed unless the process is followed. — Daniel Widdis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
@Roddy Goodness, the fact that someone is arguing to you, OP, that a given answer answers your question when you say it doesn't, and then is getting frustrated with you about your disagreement, is utterly ridiculous. You as OP are the only one who gets to decide what answer works best. — zcoop98 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel Widdis
@klutt perhaps you, or Braiam, or anyone who wants to burninate this tag could take a sampling of questions and show no harm would be done? Seems a simple request, required by the process, that nobody cares enough to do. — Daniel Widdis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
@Roddy As for your present, meta question, if the answer helped you, and it isn't contained in the duplicate, then by all means go add it! You can either provide attribution and post yourself, or provide attribution and post it as a community wiki, either is fine. Unless the answer itself is of low-quality, don't get bogged down by other users trying to tell you what worked best in your own question and usage. Using the knowledge you have to better SO is literally is what the platform is all about. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Juan
Yes, the job listings that are surfaced to the user depend on the location targeting that employers use for their job listings and the user's geographical location. — Juan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
I don't thing you're supposed to add an Answer that is identical to any other Answer. It doesn't matter if it's on a duplicate Question or not. See How to reference material written by others which says "Do not copy the complete text of external sources; instead, use their words and ideas to support your own.". cc @zcoop98 — Scratte 1 min ago
 
4:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
@zcoop98 You as OP are the only one who gets to decide what answer works best. --> sorry but this is completely wrong. I will again repeat that I have prooved that my answer works fine, simply proove the opposite if it's not. Saying not it doesn't work is far from being enough. It's not up to the OP to decide but the comunity. If the OP decide which answer works then why we allow the community to upvote/downvote or to close question? I have closed a ton of question as duplicate and got a ton of it doesn't work comments but this won't change my decision if you cannot proove me wrong — Temani Afif 1 min ago
 
4:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Passer By
Is there a reason for featuring this? — Passer By 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@PasserBy It could be that a lot of users are using this flag for Questions, and they are all getting declined.. ? — Scratte 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by expressjs123
Oh thanks for the quick response! But why would there need to be different colors? Why not just black for all of them? — expressjs123 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
It’s explained in What do the colors on Stack Overflow mean?, but what exactly are you asking? You know that the colors represent different vote “hotness”. What else is unclear? — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Braiam Actually.. as per my understand and a recent meta post, they very often get picked up by moderators with the result of a declined flag. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
To make it easier to visually distinguish between a high-voted comment and a low-voted comment. Colors are sometimes easier to see than numbers. — CertainPerformance 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
“But why would there need to be different colors?” — Okay, this clarifies your question. Consider adding this into your question with an edit. — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by lvella
The irony is this meta post being on "Hot Posts", exposed to everyone who opens StackOverflow today. If this is a super elaborated two parts spam post, congratulations. — lvella 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@lvella You know that only 10K'ers can see that post, right? — Scratte 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@DragandDrop it's the JavaScript megaTroll:( — Martin James 1 min ago
 
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