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1:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@zcoop98 That would be resolution, not dimensions, I can see just as much on my phone as on my PC (even if the links are harder to click). I find SO review queues function fine for a resolution of 1366x768, although haven't personally tried anything smaller — Nick 58 secs ago
 
2:11 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Spectric
I believe this should be on the real Stack Overflow, rather than the meta. — Spectric 40 secs ago
 
3:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
In addition to flagging as VLQ when you can vote/flag to close... I don't think there is any queue where flagging as VLQ is appropriate... VLQ sends questions to one of the queues, should not really be used to move post between queues... — Alexei Levenkov 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
What makes you think that previously declined feature-request would get different treatment now? In particular I don't think there was a single feature request this year that was implemented... so I don't see value in bringing this one up now. (also I totally support the request) — Alexei Levenkov 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
comment on the original answer and refer to your answer, which may or may not be better, like we all do — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samathingamajig
What do you mean by flag to close? I've never seen anything like that in any of the flagging options — Samathingamajig 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/flag-posts 4 (Needs improvement) and 5 (duplicate) are "flag to close", which turn into "vote to close" options after 3k rep. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
 
 
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4:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
In my opinion, the accepted answer should have something special about it (and the checkmark is not enough). I do think that changes need to be made but I prefer something like this proposal: Keeping special status for Accepted Answers without sticking them to top forever?41686d6564 6 secs ago
 
5:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
"Although I don't know how to count them, I have many, many answers that are stuck below the accepted answer" That inspired me to create an SEDE query. In case you're wondering, you have 86 — 41686d6564 1 min ago
 
5:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nathan Basanese
// , Yes. Yes it is. — Nathan Basanese 15 secs ago
 
5:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Hmm, I see Makyen differentiates himself from me in the handling of VLQ flags on questions. Well, I guess there had to be some difference in our approaches to things. :-) I would have indulged that flag; the post is blatantly inappropriate, and just stinking up the place, so it needs to be deleted. That said, I quite well understand the decline. Best way to deal with this in the future is just to flag questions that need to be closed as "needs improvement", instead of "very low quality". — Cody Gray ♦ 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jörg W Mittag
Even with the link valid, it's still a link-only answer. Downvote, vote-to-delete, move on. — Jörg W Mittag 1 min ago
 
6:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I'm a self-learner, and I think I did passably OK on the site. So yes, it's a good site for self-learners. But that doesn't mean it's a good site to post just about anything. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Deleted questions, score <= 0, contributing to the question ban: 1 2Samuel Liew ♦ 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
If too many of your questions are being closed as duplicates, you are probably not doing enough research first before posting questions. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
SO is a great place for self-learners (I'm one too). But I did use SO for years before even having an account, because even then all my questions were already answered. (to be fair, I think I learned more by answering since then) — Kaiido 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Luckily you noticed the rate limit early and seek help while your total score is borderline. Others continue to post poor questions and dig themselves into a permanent question ban. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
I just ran into this with this suggested edit. Closed question with the indicator missing even though I've been seeing the [closed] indicator as recently as today. I suspect you're right and it's because the editor also edited the title. I opened the post itself in a new tab to cast a close vote only to find it's already been closed. — BSMP 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pac0
The "retaliation" against bad question is swift and harsh in Stack Overflow, and this indeed may look at "unwelcoming" (apologies, don't try to search this keyword in meta posts and read results if you want to keep some time for your life) for newcomers. The good thing is, you realize afterwards that your questions are of dubious quality. Now, try to apply this before asking. In French, we have a saying "Tourne 7 fois ta langue dans la bouche avant de parler" (keep moving your tongue in circle 7 times before speaking) to tell youngsters to stop talking before thinking. — Pac0 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pac0
Of the "why" it is like that, having particpated in review queues, I must concurr that therte are a really big number of question, each hour that are just homework dumped without any compassion for potential readers / answerers. I think we do a good job by asking minimal debug / explanation / [mcve] in these cases instead of keeping and "answer" the question directly (or rather, do the homework instead of OP) — Pac0 31 secs ago
 
8:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zan Lynx
@JörgWMittag even if its just a link its still an answer. Copy in the summary of link content, update the link and move on. — Zan Lynx 1 min ago
 
8:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
This is just yet another reason why we shouldn't allow link-only answers. If this one isn't a link-only answer then I don't know what is. Stop putting lipstick on a pig and delete it. — Lundin 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Polygnome "except MS's" Microsoft has demonstrated that it doesn't know what developers need. Those cannot be used as examples of common place behavior. If you exclude MS, the list would be about irrelevant software. Kneecapping every other language just because MS doesn't know how to create developer tools correctly isn't something we should create guidance around. — Braiam 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by FeRD
A lot of responses here fall back on, "Well, editing a closed question puts it on the reopen queue, so approving the edit triggered headaches for other reviewers." But... why? Why does any edit send a post to the reopen queue? Because it's assumed any edit will make the post reopenable. Why is an edit assumed to make the post reopenable? Well, because any edit sends the post to the reopen queue. That feels like awfully circular logic, though I can't be 100% sure because I'm pretty dizzy from all the circular logic. — FeRD 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by FeRD
And without a big, flashing warning to that effect next to the "approve" button for edits on closed posts, the explanation for this feels a little like, "Your approval triggered a trap built into the review system, so now we have to give you a time out so you'll learn not to set off traps in the future, because setting off traps is bad and we want to be sure everyone knows where these hidden traps are and how to avoid them." I mean... I guess it's a system. — FeRD 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
 
9:13 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pac0
Until what's suggested is done, it currently falls in the "not-an-answer" category, as per thisPac0 12 secs ago
 
9:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Lundin The Question basically is "Is it possible to make a grayscale BMP file?", and this Answers say "Yes. If the colours are indexed, then you can set it to just the colours you want.". How is that not an Answer? — Scratte 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Braiam You realize how widespread the tools used by MS are, right? You realize how prevalant Windows is, as an OS, right? You realize that a significant portion of developers work on Windows or with tools from MS, right? We aren't talking about some fringe or nichê tools, here. We are talking about a large amount of people who are affected by this nonsense from MS. being stubborn and sainyg "Thats an MS problem, not our problem" doesn't actually solve anything. The problem is still there for a large portion of devs. — Polygnome 1 min ago
 
9:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
“If someone isn't familiar enough with the site's rules to know not to write a comment as an answer, then assume they aren't familiar enough to judge whether something is an answer or not either.” - but if if they believe it’s a comment shouldn’t it be treated as a comment? — Security Hound 1 min ago
 
10:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Scratte No, the question is fine, it provides a reasonable amount of detail in addition to the title. It can be explained by addressing the various possible color formats of .bmp, some pseudo code if needed etc. The link-only answers are just being lazy. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 has many friends
Although it is accurate that such a comment is completely unwarranted and should be flagged as unfriendly/unkind, the usefulness of this Meta question is questionable. Is it really unsure or unclear that suggesting random strangers to consult a psychiatrist over a vote is inappropriate? — E_net4 has many friends 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Lundin You keep calling this a link-only Answer. But it's not! There's a sentence there before the link that clearly answers the Question. Ask yourself this: If the link is removed, is there an answer there? Or an attempt of an answer? Or a wrong answer? Or a short answer? You may not agree with or find it useful, but it's clearly there. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
That comment is anything but subtle. — yivi 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
And if you have already deleted the comment, what's the use of this question? Do we really need to document that this specific kind of rudeness is indeed rude? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Scratte If the link is removed, the answer is 100% useless. The purpose of this site is not to be an archive of completely useless data that "is still an answer", in order to keep some policy lawyers on meta.so happy. The purpose of this site is to provide quality Q&A for the benefit of programmers. — Lundin 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
Anyway, this debate of "we must hug crap" vs "we must delete crap" has been raging on meta for as long as I can remember. Users are in either camp, we won't settle it here. Use your votes and user moderator privileges as you see fit. I voted to delete it. — Lundin just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@SecurityHound No. Likewise if I believe something I post in the Answer box to be an answer, it may be, but it doesn't mean it is. Same for Questions. This is why we review. — Scratte 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Lundin That is interesting, because I found it useful :) — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Scratte If you are looking for collections of dead links, there's plenty of other sites for that out there. This one strives to provide useful content on-site. — Lundin 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Scratte For example, you could go read high quality answers about the topic elsewhere on SO. — Lundin 23 secs ago
 
10:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adriaan
This has been proposed in other (now deleted) answers. This works for OSs/code languages where changing the locale is easy (such as Linux or R), but is neigh-on impossible and/or very costly for e.g. .NET, as you'd need to spend 80 quid and 200MB on installing a ful English language pack for Windows. — Adriaan 1 min ago
 
11:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Lundin We don't agree. I did not look at the link. I looked at the sentence before the link. I found that useful. I do not understand why you are so focused on the link. Please do not imply that I am focused on the link, because I am clearly not. Telling me to collect dead links is just not very constructive at all either. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Scratte The point here is that instead of clinging on to the mediocre one-liner sentence which doesn't help much in general, you could read a whole, detailed and high quality answer about the topic elsewhere on SO. With that in mind, the mediocre one-liner sentence did not add anything of value what-so-ever, it is just crap that distracts from the high quality posts about the topic, or from high quality posts in general. Post enough crap and you drown the high quality content in it, making it nearly impossible to find. — Lundin 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
You and I seem to have a different definition of "self-learning". Self implies you; you will be teaching yourself, through study, research and experimentation. Stack Overflow is amazingly helpful in the research department as it is literally a tome of knowledge. It is also entirely unstructured except for a tag system; there is no start or end, there is no index, there are no chapters or paragraphs. You pull from it specifics that you need, it is not a guide of any kind. So it sucks for study, I would still get a good book to have a well-prepared starting off point to branch out from. — Gimby just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Those are mighty big assumptions! If I run a program that gives me an error message in a different language than English, you're assuming that 1. I speak that language and that 2. I do not speak English. I'm not entirely sure why you'd make such assumptions. — Scratte 10 secs ago
 
11:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by anton_rh
@Scratte, if you use a progam in a language you don't understand, it means that you need this program very much and there is no translation to English / to your language (I updated the answer). It's very rare case. If you use a program in your native language, why do you ask for help in English? — anton_rh 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@Adriaan "I know someone working as Brit for a British company which supports server parks. Also abroad, and one of their clients has configured their servers in French." - o/ I'm one of those people (except it's not server parks, but smaller groups of servers) — Nick 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adriaan
What if it's not your native language? I know someone working as Brit for a British company which supports server parks. Also abroad, and one of their clients has configured their servers in French. They don't speak a word French, but can still write perfectly valid C++ for that server. The problem comes when there are errors, which will be thrown in French. Same holds for e.g. expats moving to another country where the sysadmin has installed all PCs in the local language, which they might not speak. — Adriaan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Okay, fair enough. Can I keep asking for this feature until I do understand the difference? — rene 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
That is very simply because I am using a library/OS that gives error messages not in English. It is not that uncommon and there is no Stack Overflow in Swedish or in French. I think you may need to revise "It's very rare case.". — Scratte 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adriaan
Bottom line: a lot of people have their systems configured in a language other than English, for a plethora of reasons. Telling them to go somewhere else, even though they speak perfect English and can write good and on-topic questions is much too harsh in my opinion. — Adriaan 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adriaan
I might speak perfect English, and be able to write a question in perfect English, but happen to program on the family computer, which is configured in Finnish (or any other small language). Resources in that language are going to be very scare, so looking for them is rather a waste of time. Especially given that I speak English, why would you force me to reconfigure that computer, even though everything else in my question is in perfect English, including my own translation/summary of the error message? — Adriaan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
This feature request has my vote, but it does not have my hope. — Gimby 1 min ago
 
12:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Adriaan How about I help out on your family computer. I speak English, but do not speak Finnish. Trying to write a post in Finnish (if there was such a site) would be a complete disaster :) — Scratte just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by anton_rh
@Adriaan "why would you force me to reconfigure that computer". Because your question will be much better if the error message will be in English. For those who will answer you question, and for those who will search for the same problem. You ask for help, but don't want to spend time to reconfigure the computer. Why does someone have to spend time to answer your question then? — anton_rh 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by anton_rh
@Scratte,I still think this is a rare case. If you need support servers/clients in language you don't understand, there are much more problems. — anton_rh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by anton_rh
@Scratte, your family uses Finnish as their first language, and you do not even speak this language? — anton_rh 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@anton_rh I do not think so. There are plenty of developers working on OS/Server not in their own languages and not in English. Try to work a year in France. I expect a lot of other users may face a similar issue having a common error code or even the same non-English error message. It seems to be that you have been fortunate to not have these issues, but limiting the usefulness for others due to that doesn't seem reasonable to me. (My scenario was working on a computer that belongs to Adriaan's family, or a Finnish company or a French company.. a system where I'm not to change the language) — Scratte 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Clockwork
@Lundin You mean, along with the one-liner, there should have been a runnable code as an example? — Clockwork 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by FullOnFlatWhite
I agree with this answer specifically in this case. Often times we don't close individuals questions that are english as a second language, we work together to improve their quality. Would this be improved by adding a link to the relevant error code in the VBScript docs? Absolutely. I would rather have the original context of the output of the code, on the off chance that there was something wrong with the localization of the code or errors, in order to further assist. — FullOnFlatWhite 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adriaan
Even working as a Frenchman in a French company, if the sysadmin does not allow you to change the system language. It's too harsh to block you from asking here, especially if you speak perfect English and your entire question is on-topic. And, as mentioned by others in this thread, reconfiguring e.g. Windows (for .NET errors) costs 80 quid to buy a new language package. Forcing me to ask help in the system language is a needless restriction if I otherwise speak and write proper English. — Adriaan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by anton_rh
@Scratte, such answers would be useful only for English-speaking developers working in France (I don't think there are much of them). I still think, that you have to reconfigure computer and get error message in English. It may be helpful even for you. You can search for that error message in English and you will probably get a solution without asking at SO. — anton_rh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by anton_rh
@Adriaan "It's too harsh to block you from asking here". I think it is fine. I would never ask a question at SO with error message in my native language. — anton_rh 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user000001
On the other hand we often land on useful questions, that are closed because they are duplicates, or for other reasons. Should all the readers have to see a poorly formatted question just because it fits a close reason? If the question doesn't get any views, then yes, leave it alone, but if it is still being used, I would prefer edits to be allowed. — user000001 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@Clockwork Not necessarily. Describing the bitmap format or a (pseudo code) algorithm for color format conversions would be good answers too. — Lundin 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@anton_rh Maybe not. But there are a lot of French speaking people with French systems. They may not be able to change the system settings, and they may all be using Stack Overflow. So now you have lots of users that would find those posts useful. Your argument that it's only very rare is a bit questionable. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by anton_rh
@Scratte, "you have lots of users that would find those posts useful" and all of them are French-speaking. — anton_rh 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Speaking one language does not exclude being able to speak another, @anton_rh. And translating messages does not in any way ensure that the message corresponds to the English equivalent. As had been mentioned it's not feasible to install a different language pack on a number of scenarios. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@user000001 You are talking about the 1% situation. The one that the asker encountered, and I am talking about, is the 99%. Please don't derail the general case with discussion about the special case. — Ian Kemp 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nivs1978
If you can't read/write engleish you should not be a programmer/software developer. Just like english is chosen as the official international language that everyone should know and speak, the same goes for writing code. I don't know why .Net errors was translated in the first place. THey never should have. — nivs1978 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by code11
Great, those are both very helpful, especially the NP vs non-NP distinction drawn between CS.SE and SO. — code11 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sean
@TimRandall that comment makes me want to stop contributing to review queues altogether. — Sean 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Sean There is no shame in not reviewing. If you feel it's discouraging, then just ask: Does it make me happy? — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
"I. KNOW." Then acknowledge those shortcomings in your answer. When I pitch a 80% solution at work, I write down all of the pros and cons of my solution, showing how it solves 80% of the problem, and how we'll deal with the 20% of the problem later or in another way. — Heretic Monkey 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Rob definitely the wrong way round on dupe targeting there. — TylerH 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sean
"In summary, your inability to distinguish a question that is beyond redemption, plus being happy to allow an edit that is actively harmful, is why you got a ban." It's not an "inability" to do so, Ian. Reviewers aren't asked to make that distinction. I'm perfectly capable of distinguishing which edits make a question re-openable. And I wasn't "happy" to allow a harmful edit. I was unaware that approving it would bump it into another queue. How would I have known that? Moderators shouldn't punish users for following directions because that direction-following makes more work for them. — Sean 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sean
@Scratte The point is that SO's quality relies on reviewers. If this is the experience they're met with, others will likely be discouraged too, degrading SO's quality. It's not about me personally. — Sean 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Ah yes, the "my answers getting downvoted is harming the community" argument. When your answer can't even get enough upvotes to counter the few downvotes of the "pedantic users", then why do you think your answer is good? — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by code11
As stated, this seems too broad. I have no idea what you're referring to. — code11 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lewis
I have recently been stopped from asking questions because I have reached my question limit. How incredibly annoying! People get really annoyed with you if you can't almost solve your own problem and they let you know. I ask questions to the best of my ability, always; this is not good enough for most people. This community makes me feel incredibly dumb, depressed and angry. I have come from being a school teacher to working for a massive aerospace company in under 2 years and I am working on projects on land, at sea and in space. I detest this community. — Lewis 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by anton_rh
@Scratte, the audience is still narrow. I think there are less than 10% French-speaking people on Stack Overflow. Even if there are more, we do not speak about French specifically (which I think is quite popular). There are other languages. The error message can be in some "small" language and there can be less than 1% people on Stack Overflow who can understand it. If you can't change language, then ok. But if you can, you MUST change the language of the program and provide English version of the error message in your question. — anton_rh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Sean I understand. But if you are not happy with the way things have turned out, will you be happier by continuing? And if you do, will it change anything? If you believe the instructions are misleading, you can surely work with your now revised understanding of the instructions. But there are a lot of reviewers. I'd prefer them to do it because they enjoy it. Not because the feel they have to. — Scratte 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SecretAgentMan
"Please use logic, and approach Meta questions the same way." Some readers may see this as condescending. — SecretAgentMan 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Polygnome again, I do not care. We can not make a exception just because MS being stupid. Every other language have sane behavior, whatever we decide should follow sane behaviors. — Braiam 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
You do have a point. But have you considered that when excluding the 1% of one scenario, you can end up excluding everything by just adding scenarios. And how do you know the solution works for 99%, and not 51%? — Scratte just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
How do you know that duplicates only cover 1%? If could be that 75% of closed post that remain on the site are in fact duplicates. I don't have any numbers, but from recollection, I think my close flags for duplicates are about 10%. I agree that editing closed post isn't very productive in general, but have you noticed that Stack Inc put a huge edit button on all closed post? — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user000001
@Scratte: Not only that, but it doesn't matter if it's 1% questions, what matters is the percentage of views that are affected by this. — user000001 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by anton_rh
Changing language to English may be better even for you. My native language is Russian, but I use programs mostly in English. Because there are much more information in English than in Russian. I can get some text from UI or error message and search for it in Internet and find a lot of information. And I think, if you use program in your language, but search for info in English or ask a question on SO (which is also English), you have the same problem. — anton_rh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
@Braiam Well, it is sad that you do not care about the problems your fellow developer face every day. And I'm glad that the most upvoted answer here is way more tolerant and interested in solving the problem, instead of stickling to principles. Yes, MS is being stupid, but punishing the average dev for MS behavior is just short-sighted, imho. We aren't here to play the blame-game, we are here to solve programming problems. At least we used to be. — Polygnome 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
@TylerH, and yet you've checked in with me rather than voting; appreciate that. — Rob 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Berthim
Can someone provide details about this link/malware so we can be more careful in the future ? Thanks — Berthim 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
@Nick Fair point! I made the mistake of assuming they consistently go hand in hand... they sometimes do, but not always. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
I'm not sure this would be on-topic anywhere on the network, let alone here on Meta. — F1Krazy 26 secs ago
 
3:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
"Your 90 or 99% idea often forms the basis for a 100% idea" that sounds like early optimizations. :D — Braiam 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
@Scratte I agree, that's the key! The so-called "1%" may actually be much larger than that, and we'll never know without the discussion and back and forth. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Should it be replaced with anything else? Does it ever appear as the only tag on the question? — Dharman 12 secs ago
 
 
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5:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
@IanKemp Sometimes the community disagrees with you. Sometimes the disagreement will seem illogical or even harmful. If a comment isn't useful to you but isn't flaggable, the only thing you can do is ignore it. (You can always delete an answer if it's getting a lot of annoying engagement.) But I don't think you're going to get a lot of traction with, "Please don't disagree with me in this specific way". — BSMP 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jrh
There's no good way of handling this. If it's malicious I'd say you should downvote and flag it, I've had some success with flagging stuff like this in the past but it's not 100%. If it's really bad use any other means necessary to get somebody's attention (chat, etc.), malicious links need to go away fast. Maybe the user who posted the content is still active but unfortunately the decay rate of SO accounts is about the same as the decay rate for personal blogs. Suggested edits aren't that effective for this, it'd be likely you'd just get rejected for "turd polishing". — jrh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jrh
More than once during browsing I've been very happy I use Linux as a main OS after stumbling on a "unpleasant" page unexpectedly, these days I treat unknown sites with a lot of suspicion, but SO tends to attract a higher caliber of users and content so I'm a bit more trusting. If we don't trash evil links that reputation will erode. — jrh 1 min ago
 
6:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
We can have a separate queue and make it open for users (there aren't enough mods for this) — Kevin B 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 1201ProgramAlarm
Hmmm... are there corresponding tags for the View and Controller parts of the model-view-controller pattern?There's controller and viewcontroller plus lots of tags for specific implementations or uses of the pattern. — 1201ProgramAlarm 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ani Menon
@KevinB that makes sense too. — Ani Menon 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
We do have queue of sorts. Downvote the answer, cast a delete vote, and it appears in the "recent delete votes" in the moderator tools page (for 20k users)StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael Welch
I had no idea these short cuts existed. Was just searching for how to format links properly. — Michael Welch 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ani Menon
@StoryTeller-UnslanderMonica Downvote is fine, but why not make it more open? — Ani Menon 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by πάντα ῥεῖ
@AniMenon You could post a [delv-pls] request in the SOCVR instead of a mod flag. — πάντα ῥεῖ 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
@AniMenon - More open to what? Deleting upvoted posts? No, I don't think it's a good idea. There's too much of an abuse vector there (despite the few cases where we might feel it is justified). — StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ani Menon
@StoryTeller-UnslanderMonica that's the reason I say make it as a high rep or a mod option. Not necessarily open to all. — Ani Menon 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ani Menon
@πάνταῥεῖ didn't think of it..But wouldn't a more open version of it make sense? — Ani Menon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
Again, mods aren't subject matter experts on everything that is posted on SO daily (there's only about two dozen mods now) so you can't dump it on them. As far as regular trusted users... I'm still uncomfortable, not every trusted user always sticks to their subject matter when reviewing. You risk losing answers that can be salvaged that way. So you may say "limit it to dupehammer holders".... but then, in some tags you'd have practically no one reviewing. I don't think there's enough here to warrant developer time. — StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@πάνταῥεῖ careful what you suggest because technically that answer doesn't qualify yet to be deleted, it doesn't have a negative score. SOCVR still isn't, despite popular believe, your personal downvote mob .... ;) — rene 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by alpablo20
thanks for the feedback to everyone who's replied. like I mentioned in the original post I recognize that my first few questions on the site were genuinely effortless and poorly written and researched. I think my qualm now is with two things 1) I have often searched for the answers on SO before posting, however, as @Gimby mentions, since there is no index I sometimes don't find what I am looking for or don't know how to look for my question; so assuming it's not there I post thinking it will be a good question. Any tips on becoming a better SO researcher? — alpablo20 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by alpablo20
my second problem was more with the teacher's formula problem. Sometimes I will ask a question because the methods I have found are beyond my knowledge, and so I assume it is fair game to ask a question that is simpler and more beginner friendly. I see now that there's a lot of disagreement as to how or whether to ask these questions, so I don't know if there is a solution for this. Again, I assume experience will be a great teacher, but it would be great if I got asked for clarification before my questions got closed. alas! — alpablo20 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ani Menon
@rene I think πάνταῥεῖ means when it gets couple more -1. But anyway the point of the question here is to get more ppl involved in cleaning up non answers. — Ani Menon 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by πάντα ῥεῖ
@rene Oh, sorry, I didn't have a look at that answer. — πάντα ῥεῖ 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ani Menon
@StoryTeller-UnslanderMonica Most popular tags have good number of ppl (with high reps towards that tag) browsing through who might be interested in looking at the clean-up part. Again it can be made a 5 downvote to delete thing but still that way would be faster than having a wrong answer hanging around until -3. — Ani Menon 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@πάνταῥεῖ it is close enough, no harm done. For completeness it is rule 11 under our FAQ. — rene 39 secs ago
 
7:13 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by code11
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
Confirming the veracity of an answer is what the voting system is for. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@RobertHarvey ..but what about users that want to spend all of their daily delete votes? — Scratte 1 min ago
 
7:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Clockwork
@jrh From what little I gathered, initial poster intended for the link to point toward some source code. But then, several years later, the website went wrong, so it became a malware nest. Basically another reason to copying the website's content into the answer. — Clockwork 1 min ago
 
8:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight
@Dharman every question appears to have at least one other tag. We can nuke it from orbit. — Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jrh
@Clockwork yeah, it's surprisingly not that uncommon. I usually find malware links in blogs though (companies that went out of business, or individual blogs that got shut down, etc.) — jrh 9 secs ago
 
8:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Yes, it is not easy to find the right keywords for searching in 20,330,120 questions. — Peter Mortensen 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "not obviously": Do you mean "obviously not"? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
9:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Why is this downvoted? It seems like a genuine error. — Peter Mortensen 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
But you are not on 3G(?). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
10:03 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Is that C++ code actually syntactically correct? — Peter Mortensen 7 secs ago
 
10:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
That very comment indicates it isn't syntactically correct. An answer says "template template template parameters are not possible". — Peter Mortensen 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Maybe we should expect more from the syntax highlighter, but the workaround is to turn off syntax highlighting when it is confusing due to syntactically incorrect code. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Columbia
There are [multiple-models] for burnination. — Robert Columbia 24 secs ago
 
10:59 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wayne Conrad
@SecurityHound It was in my case. Or, I had been suspended before and not known it. — Wayne Conrad 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GalaxyCat105
And (sadly) serial voting — GalaxyCat105 1 min ago
 
11:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by eyllanesc
@alpablo20 A key point in asking the question in SO is that the questions do not depend on the expertise of the OP, we are only interested in the question itself, so in SO there are no questions for beginners or experts. — eyllanesc 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by alpablo20
@eyllanesc I'm not sure I follow your point, could you clarify? I think there should be some sort of distinction because as a somewhat beginner, sometimes as much as I want to undderstand an answer or follow a thread I just simply don't have the background knowledge to do so. This is not from a desire not to want to do work, but as someone working by myself I often don't even know how to begin looking for things. — alpablo20 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by eyllanesc
@alpablo20 Or would you like the answers to depend on the OP? in my case I would not like it since in the answers I will see different perspectives. My recommendation is that you get involved with the site more: for example, check the questions every day even if they are not your questions, if you can try to answer them, search by concepts and not by phrases, and use SO as the last resource and take the largest amount of time possible to write the quality question. — eyllanesc 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by eyllanesc
@alpablo20 1) I am self-taught, 2) SO is not a tutoring service but rather a collection of knowledge, and that knowledge is shared with everyone regardless of their level of knowledge (it will depend on the interest, not only that they want to learn but also the effort what that implies, try to understand it). — eyllanesc 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by alpablo20
@eyllanesc yeah, that second point makes sense. I think in my experience it came down to two things 1) inexperience and lack of effort at first and now that I understand SO better I think I still find it intimidating and discouraging when I think I am making an effort but my questions kept getting closed. I know it's not a teching website, but sometimes I do wish for a little more compassion and understanding. alas! — alpablo20 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by alpablo20
you're asking from more of a perspective of, "Oh, I don't really know how to do this, does anyone have any suggestions?" -- I'm not sure if youre referring to something I did specifically. If so, would you mind telling me where so I can be aware of it in the future? — alpablo20 just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Duniho
@alpablo20: "sometimes as much as I want to undderstand an answer or follow a thread I just simply don't have the background knowledge to do so" -- as a self-learner, you must develop the skill of taking a problem that you don't understand and breaking it down into smaller parts. The parts will fall into one of three categories: small enough to be problems you already know the answer to; small enough for you to be able to recognize how existing answers solve the problem; or, small enough to be able to be stated clearly, concisely, and uniquely on Stack Overflow so someone can help. — Peter Duniho 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by eyllanesc
@alpablo20 Precisely because our actions do not depend on the OP do not ask us for compassion, when one votes for a question (either a DV or UV) they are not saying that the OP is bad or not but that the question is bad for the site since it does not comply With the rules, when your question is closed as a duplicate they are indicating that that question has already been answered. In academic life, it is not the "who" but the "what" is of interest. — eyllanesc 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by eyllanesc
@alpablo20 What I think is that you try to be a self-learner but you don't know what that implies. He tells you about his own experience: When I was in school, my teacher gave me a book to learn a topic that he did not teach me and told me that my task is to explain what the book was about, that is self-learner since I had to read first the book, what I did not understand I had to investigate it in the library. In other words, the teacher told me to read a book but in reality I had to read many. The same is in SO: do not look for a single question but you must read many. — eyllanesc 16 secs ago
 

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