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1:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@Rubén - ah, I finally got what you meant by "if" :) Come to think of it, there is a couple of extra definitions of GAS: "rapid application development platform". On the other hand, the fact TS is compiled to GAS. I suppose we should terminologically treat it the same way as Node.js — Oleg Valter 10 secs ago
 
 
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2:53 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@Lorenz - It seems you have mistaken Stack Overflow for a discussion forum. You should be asking questions that have answers, asking what the proper name for something is, seems out of scope. This is especially true when you ask for the proper name for multiple things. — Security Hound 1 min ago
 
 
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5:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
Of course, in other cases, if it was deliberate and might need more explanation than a sentence or two in the flag reply, or would benefit from community input, or might not require a mod to explain, I'd think that'd be the time to take things to Meta — CertainPerformance just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
it is better to use Meta as a venue for questioning/disagreeing with a moderator's decision than to raise a second flag Are you sure? It's not all that uncommon to see something and think "I know how things work and that doesn't make any sense at all, did a mod press the wrong button, or fail to read closely enough?" in which case the fix from a custom flag is trivial and (I'd think) less stress-inducing than a public questioning of a simple mistake. — CertainPerformance 6 secs ago
 
 
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6:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@CertainPerformance If you want an explanation, then it needs to come to Meta. Only raise a flag if you're fine with the flag being simply and summarily declined. That said, there's nothing wrong with raising a flag if you think it was a genuine mistake and just want someone to take a second look at it. We will do that in response to a flag. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
6:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by khelwood
"% of developers who are developing with the language or technology and have expressed interest in continuing to develop with it" does not accurately describe the meaning of the number. It should be "% of developers who are developing with the language or technology that have expressed interest in continuing to develop with it". The word "and" does not indicate that "developers of the language" are the denominator and "have continued interest" is the numerator. — khelwood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by khelwood
"% of developers who are developing with the language or technology and have expressed interest in continuing to develop with it" does not accurately describe the meaning of the number. It should be "% of developers who are developing with the language or technology that have expressed interest in continuing to develop with it". The word "and" does nothing to indicate that "who are developing with the language" are the denominator and "have expressed interest" is the numerator. — khelwood 1 min ago
 
 
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8:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gourav
It's great that it worked for you @NilsLindemann, but when I faced the same issue around 2 years ago, what I did is mentioned in the answer, anyways thanks for your opinion :) — Gourav 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidPostill
Shog who is no longer with us? — DavidPostill 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidPostill
It's perhaps worth pointing out that posting any programming questions to Super User while question banned on Stack Overflow will very quickly get you question banned on Super User as well. — DavidPostill 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
The other two people who voted "Requires Editing" are probably also suspended. Requires editing means that the post can be fixed by someone else than the author. What would you expect an editor to edit to get the question on-topic? — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Arvind Kumar
@BDL I understand this point, but who decides which user to suspend? Also, can I be suspended just for one wrong review out of 100s? Isn't it a bit harsh as every user can have a different opinion about each question? That's why there is a voting process — Arvind Kumar 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Does this answer your question? How does the Triage queue work?BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
The bans are issued manually by a moderator. See Triage needs to be fixed urgently, and users need to be notified upon receiving a review ban!. Yes, you can be banned for just one single wrong review, although it rarely happens that it's really just one. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
What exactly is your question? The message on the review page tells you exactly why you were banned. Are you asking why you were banned even though 2 other people also made the wrong decision? Being in the majority doesn't make you correct. — Cody Gray ♦ 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Arvind Kumar
@CodyGray I agree being in majority does not make it correct, but how does one person suspending other users make it correct? Maybe that person is wrong in that case. Also, I still think that question can be edited. So, Is there a way to appeal against suspension? — Arvind Kumar 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Making the wrong choices in review means we have to clean up after you. Do you think we should just keep on letting you do that and keep on cleaning up because you don't want to change, or even be told you need to change? How can we get through to you that you're not reviewing correctly? — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidPostill
Yes. That's perfect :) — DavidPostill 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@DavidPostill does my edit address your concerns? — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
And again nobody understands the rules for reviewing and so again aand again, the people get banned, can't you ranme requires editing to requires editing by modeartor or so, so that sch a missunderstanding will not happen anympore — nbk 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
5 (Requires Edit, nothing to edited). 6 (Requires Edit, nothing to edited), 7 (Looks OK, wrong capitalization) — BDL 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
I checked your last reviews, and there are several others that are also problematic: 1 (Looks OK, but thank you should be removed. And it's not about programming at all). 2 (Looks OK, but has capitalization issues like i), 3 (Looks OK, wrong capitalization), 4 (Looks OK; wrong capitalization), — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@ArvindKumar: If you think that your choice was correct, then explain in the question here what you would edit to make it on-topic. The only option I see is to copy the content of the links, but there are more than 1000 lines which can't be added without reducing the problem to an MRE. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Arvind Kumar
@BDL In my questions, you posted in the last comments you are using "Wrong Capitalization". My I know what is meaning of that? — Arvind Kumar 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
The questions contain words which are not properly capitalized. Mostly i instead of I, and lower case letter at the start of sentences. That's where you should choose "Requires editing" because typos and capitalization can be fixed by someone else than op. — BDL 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Meta is the place to make an appeal. Is it your position that the moderator who suspended you for your decision in this review made a mistake? Are you arguing that your choice of "Requires Editing" here was the correct one? — Cody Gray ♦ 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Arvind Kumar
@BDL I had a completely different idea about "Requires Editing" option. I never thought "Wrong Capitalization" can be flagged as such. I think I learned something from this discussion which will help me while reviewing in future. — Arvind Kumar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Arvind Kumar
@CodyGray I think I learned where I went wrong and after this discussion, no longer want to question the moderator at his decision. — Arvind Kumar 55 secs ago
 
 
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10:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nils Lindemann
@Gourav That is not an opinion but a recapitulation of an occurrence. — Nils Lindemann 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
I assume Peter is talking about a "sandbox" environment where new askers can post their question for clean-up before it goes onto the main site. This was actually tried a couple of years ago, in the Mentoring experiment. — PM 2Ring 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
Obviously false. Everyone knows it's PHP....... — Martin James 54 secs ago
 
11:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
It can be depressing to see all the low quality questions from new members who ignore (or haven't read) the Help centre info. In fact, some people have userscripts that block questions from low rep members so that they can look for good questions without getting too upset. Obviously, that's not good for the long-term health of the site, but I guess it's better than high rep members leaving the site totally. — PM 2Ring 1 min ago
 
11:23 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@Rubén Can't find a Canonical Q/A. Asked a canonical question here. Feel free to share your opinion. — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
The answer below is my opinion. The question however is unbiased and intended to have many answers from experts to create a "canonical factors to consider" — TheMaster 34 secs ago
 
11:53 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andras Deak
 
12:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
Ok. Do you guys don't want a strategy at all? Or should it not be discussed at all? Could someone explain why so many downvotes? — TheMaster 1 min ago
 
1:39 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It was never OK. Since the very beginning of Stack Overflow, the kind of thing you describe has been inappropriate. Unfortunately, there's no way we can stop everyone from breaking the rules. There simply aren't enough moderators or quality-minded users to achieve 100% enforcement. But when we do find a problem, we generally do go about fixing it, so you should definitely expect a large number of your answers to be edited. Just like when you clean up a spill, you wipe the rest of the counter, too. There's never a reason to discuss edits; that's just more noise, which we also discourage. — Cody Gray ♦ 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
Any reason for the downvotes? Do you not want to discuss the issue at all? Or do you not want a well defined criteria? Or is the question unclear or too broad? — TheMaster 24 secs ago
 
2:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
Don't know about others but I just downvoted because you guys are being really annoying lately discussing tags all the time — oguz ismail 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@oguzismail Thanks. You also have a +1 on your comment(not me yet). At least now I know it's not about my question in particular. — TheMaster 1 min ago
 
 
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4:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
I'm just not sure what problem, if any, this is trying to solve. It smells a lot like bikeshedding. — ivarni 21 secs ago
 
4:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@ivarni This started because one user decided to branch all tags in a language into these long ultra specific tags. I was against it giving reasons. But the user challenged me to provide a canonical q/a and Since I couldn't find one, And I saw a lot of similar issues meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/371655 meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/251957 meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/272013 for/against depending on the mod visiting the request. I thought it would be better to have a clear criteria — TheMaster 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
Just get rid of those tags then, and tell that particular user to stop doing that. If they don't, reach out to a moderator. — oguz ismail 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@oguzismail I plan to do that. But still, this question is independent from that issue. A well defined criteria will help a long way in merging/retagging/synonym requests. — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
Then drop the esoteric language and rephrase it so that we can understand too. — oguz ismail 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@oguzismail I wasn't aware that I'm using esoteric language. I edited the question to add "why?". If you can help in rewording the issue, I'd be grateful. — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
I don't think I can. Take any post in the FAQ index as a reference. — oguz ismail 9 secs ago
 
4:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@oguzismail Is it clear now? — TheMaster 1 min ago
 
5:13 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
I don't think you understand the issue with this post. If I was given the privilege to make tag edits, propose and vote for tag synonyms, request tag burnination, etc., I don't think I have to acquaint myself with a terminology invented by literally who in order to be able to participate in discussions related to the proper use of those privileges. Again, I don't think this discussion is going anywhere. — oguz ismail 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@oguzismail If you understand, what terminology would you use for differentiating those two examples in the question? I thought about it long. Combo seems to be well known, but builder ... no. I thought about lego tags... but couldn't come up with a decent name. But I think the rest are clear enough. — TheMaster 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nikolay Vasiliev
@CodyGray Ok thanks for letting me know. I completely missed this. May you link some guideline page, so I could inform myself? — Nikolay Vasiliev 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nikolay Vasiliev
@CodyGray I think I understand what SO wants to achieve here. But it is like to set rules to forces of nature, like water. It was never Ok for water to flood villages, but water cannot be stopped, villages should be built accordingly. People build dams and use the power of water, but no-one can tell water what to do. Same with the flood of people's answers etc. I am thankful for the community for letting me know, I wish I knew this before. (Responses even looked rude to me because of that actually. My own impression but still.) — Nikolay Vasiliev 1 min ago
 
5:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gourav
Sorry, my mistake. Thank you :) — Gourav 1 min ago
 
5:53 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
trap is now a synonym for bash-trap and no one seems to have objected to it yet. No one actually used shell-trap and powershell-trap since 2017 (I edited two questions today that have both powershell and bash-trap, and that's all). I guess snmp-trap is still relevant but I don't think it's unnecessary to have a separate tag for that. What was the point of all this? — oguz ismail 1 min ago
 
6:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
Changing SME-decision to community decision would make this worth an upvote — oguz ismail 1 min ago
 
7:05 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dominique
And how many is that grace period? I find it so annoying, writing an answer, and just when I'm about to finish, the question is being closed and I've done all that writing for nothing. — Dominique 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
FWIW I undeleted based solely on the flags, and after talking with the moderator who deleted it. Cody is right in that if you want an explanation, flags are not the way to go. We can comment back on the flag, but it generates no notices and only the flagger can see it in their flags list. — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
 
 
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9:51 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@oguzismail - if we are talking about terminology here, would using "individual" instead of "brick" or "lego" suffice? As in git discussion. And "sub-tags" instead of "combo"/"combined" as in the one about inheritance? — Oleg Valter 6 secs ago
 
10:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
Post rewritten for clarity — TheMaster just now
 

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