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12:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Sorry, that account is no longer welcome. This is not up for debate. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 8 secs ago
 
 
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2:13 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bergi
@SamuelLiew Can you please add a notice explaining what has changed that caused this to be featured again? (Or some other kind of description prominently linking an explanation). Also it seems like the post gnat just linked seems more appropriate to be re-featured. — Bergi 5 secs ago
 
2:33 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
Audit is to make sure your not a robot and you are actually reviewing contributions. If you always do that, or only when your not sure, your actually fulfilling the purpose of the audit. You can’t actually cheat the audit, it’s a test your suppose to pass, unless your NOT paying attention. — Security Hound 54 secs ago
 
 
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3:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bravemaster
Does this answer your question? Stack Snippets and non-runnable codebravemaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
@Bergi please read the revision comment — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Do you want to notify the users or just mention them? — VLAZ 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Pureferret how is it trivial to get a shim for stuff like fs? Besides Node.js typically runs on V8 - how would V8 specific implementations fare when run in Firefox? I don't think it's at all trivial to run Node in the client. Otherwise we wouldn't need Node, we'd just have a library of functionality. — VLAZ just now
 
 
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5:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Just turn off the posting of a comment, @Jon. This is causing a lot of disruption. Moderators have already contacted a user twice to ask them to stop generating this level of noise, and both times the user has had to explain that it is not their fault, that the system is automatically posting these comments when they try to improve people's posts. I appreciate that you're doing a major overhaul of the review queues, and that's great. But this doesn't need to be rolled into that because we don't want to wait another 6-8 weeks. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
6:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
possibly a bug: your tags edit in revision 2 didn't touch the one where you have gold but system could incorrectly decide that this edit disqualified your dupehammer (though there is also a chance that it simply took more than a hour for system to learn about your new gold badge) — gnat 1 min ago
 
6:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Deleted questions, score <= 0, contributing to the question ban: 1 2Samuel Liew ♦ 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bbbbbbbbbroc
Is there a reason you can come up with that is why people downvote without giving a constructive and critical comment? — bbbbbbbbbroc 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@bbbbbbbbbroc People don't need to disclose their reasons for voting. If it was a upvote, would you be asking for reasons? You could however ask how the question can be improvised in the comments or in meta for each post. — TheMaster just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dmitrii Z.
I'd argue that SO doesn't have control over a random github repository, we don't know whether that answer will be deleted in a week or not. If the question is on-topic here - there's no reason to close it - make it self answered QA. — Dmitrii Z. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bbbbbbbbbroc
not 100% sure, but of course there would be people who would take advantage of the auto-ban and they tend to target low rep users — bbbbbbbbbroc 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Really? And how do you know that? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bbbbbbbbbroc
Some people decide to downvote and wait for the user to get question banned before answering why, just to cause trouble — bbbbbbbbbroc 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Why do you think that? I haven't seen anything of the kind. Is that something you would do if you had more reputation? — yivi 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bbbbbbbbbroc
yep, see a downvote — bbbbbbbbbroc 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bbbbbbbbbroc
refer to paragraph 3 and after, that is what i am focusing on in this post — bbbbbbbbbroc 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
Citation needed for all of that. Posts get downvotes because they: don't show any research effort; are unclear; or are not useful. If people are downvoting a post because the user is new, like all other voting that's on a person rather than a post, that's against the rules. — jonrsharpe 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bbbbbbbbbroc
stackoverflow.com/questions/63277155/… kindly tell me anything you would want to improve on this post — bbbbbbbbbroc 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
You've had several comments there telling you the problems; I don't know C++, but it appears that at least the first version didn't actually help illustrate or recreate the problem. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bbbbbbbbbroc
at this point i can't tell what is wrong with my posts — bbbbbbbbbroc 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
If you often get downvoted it's probably not everyone else's fault. It's feedback and it's something you should look at with the mindset that it's possibly something wrong with the question that got downvoted. Noone is going around voting for fun. — ivarni 1 min ago
 
7:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by xdtTransform
And congratulations on your new hammer. — xdtTransform 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@xdtTransform Thanks. Was hoping to swing it left and right, but my brand new hammer isn't hitting anything. — TheMaster 9 secs ago
 
7:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
I like the idea of alluding to questions being similar and motivating the OP to differentiate. That gives some wiggle room, but directs the action of clarifying to the question instead of arguing with the voter. — MisterMiyagi just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
How? Scrapping and caching. That's what Google does — TheMaster 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pani
My display name was something else (it was my first name and last name). I have changed it for almost 2 weeks and now to Pani. When I search my full name which was my profile previous display name , i see my profile !! Now it does not contain my full name !! how it shows up in the result? How can I prevent this from happening?? is there a way? — Pani just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pani
should I contact google team? — Pani 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
Well you could certainly try asking Google, there's not much SO can do on their end except maybe triggering a recrawl but even that can take weeks. — ivarni 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
You can contact google, but I wouldn't expect much. SO definitely isn't able to help you here. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@Dharman Disagree on "just enough [...] to reproduce the issue" means "not copy-paste". An MCVE/MCE/RePrex should be minimal and complete, which means copy-paste. There are tons of questions out there in which the OP left away some seemingly easy to guess element that actually triggers the problem. Put the wiggle room in the meaning of "should", not the requirements. — MisterMiyagi 9 secs ago
 
7:53 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Don't swing your hammer near your thumb. Trust me, you'll hit it. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Linking to their post also adds a record to the Linked Posts, shown at the right of the page. Valuable content gets a better exposure this way.Only linking to a user profile would not achieve the same effect. — rene 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Skeet
I don't think it's unachievable. See meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/262814 for the formula - I don't know whether it's still accurate, but I doubt that "positive" means "no downvotes ever" for example. — Jon Skeet 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@yivi Except the ones under the heading "Retired Badges"Nick 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I don't think there are any (current) unachievable badges. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
You can also manually choose which badge to track next. — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Nick Made an edit trying to pre-empt that answer. Apparently I was late. :) — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
The only unachievable badges (on SO) are Precognitive & Beta. All others you can still get. Getting your question record into the green is possible. In fact, as far as I can see, yours is. Even if it weren't, asking more well received questions would allow you to make it positive. — Polygnome 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chris neilsen
 
8:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
I can't get the badge because I messed up my positive question record. Your positive question record is a ratio, not a fixed number. If you post a new question tomorrow that is received positively then the ratio shifts in your benefit. All you need is enough such days. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
I'm going to go with: script X that updates dupehammer privileges on SO backend runs every Y hours. — Marco Bonelli 18 secs ago
 
9:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
By my count it looks like you are just 2 questions short of reaching the ratio threshold. You posted 22 questions in total. The sum of negative, closed and deleted posts (counted separately for each state) is 12. 2 more questions that are not closed, not deleted and not downvoted (and a few days old to settle their status) and you’d be at 24 / 12 == 0.5. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pureferret
@bravemaster, thats the 'old question' I linked to in my post. — Pureferret 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pureferret
@VLAZ node rus on a server to do server functions like fs. Because of how trivial it is to mock them in a test, it should be as easy to mock them to run a in a browser. The Library I found BrowserFS looks like it would work, but the way stack snippets loads modules means it is struggling. — Pureferret 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drag and Drop
If I'm correct, closed question stop to count after 60 day. So it's possible for someone with only 5 positives questions and arbitrary large number of closable negative question to get the badge. Just by being afk long enough for the community to close all the bad questions. — Drag and Drop 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@DragandDrop "closed question stop to count after 60 day" - No, they don't count as closed if they were closed after 60 days had passed, they don't just stop counting as closed when they're 60 days old — Nick 58 secs ago
 
 
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10:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sh.Imran
In "Triage" and "First Posts", the posts come relating to all fields or tags. It would be better that there got to some filter criteria according to the tags. Only those tags' posts are supposed to come for review for the reviewer. — Sh.Imran 1 min ago
 
11:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
Perhaps post a new bug, and link this one. Since this one has been status-completed, and it's so long ago, I think this deserves an entirely new post to get it the attention it deserves (and it didn't get a reply after the comments in September and October last year) — Erik A 53 secs ago
 
11:21 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
@Tom yes, I want to use dupes; I'm trying to standardise on a canonical target so we can manage this efficiently. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
There is a suitable dupe for this question: What is the best way to deal with a temporal event which gets a lot of attention? ... it also suggests the use of dupes if possible. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
Why people jump to ask a question instead of asking their customer support? — Braiam 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Kuzdowicz
surpassingly it work for me after deleting current draft than i created new one and had the same issue then after browser refresh it worked and i was able to post the question — Martin Kuzdowicz 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
Programming 101: is someone else fault. (It could be past you!) — Braiam 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
@Braiam at least partly because they assume they've done something wrong, rather than that NPM is the source of the problem. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Link for newest unclosed questions: stackoverflow.com/…Nick 36 secs ago
 
12:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
When you are question banned, you are banned from asking questions. Asking the question on Meta Stack Overflow is not an appropriate workaround. See What can I do when getting “We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account”? and read the whole answer. — Heretic Monkey 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Deleted questions, score <= 0, contributing to the question ban: 1 2 3 4 5 6Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Note that you can also click the "share" link under the post in question to get a slightly less cumbersome URL. Delete the last grouping of numbers for more privacy (e.g., the share link for this answer, for me, brings up meta.stackoverflow.com/a/400072/215552, but it would work just as well as meta.stackoverflow.com/a/400072). — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
 
12:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
@TheMaster People can do unethical things in comments. I can ask BDL to share their credit card number and CCV. If you see someone doing something unethical in the comments, flag the comment. The moderator may decline your flag, in which case you have your answer (for that moderator, for that comment, anyway). — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
"nor any reasons in "Close questions", consider self-containment. " Well, except for the SO-specific "Needs debugging information - The question should be updated to include desired behavior, a specific problem or error, and the shortest code necessary to reproduce the problem." The spirit of which encourages the code needed to be included in the question. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
 
12:51 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
The question is not about down votes in general but about a specific pattern of voting targetted at posts of a single user. While the things you mention is not unknown it doesn't answer the specific question we're discussion here. As such this answer is not useful on this question for others to read and that is the reason for my down vote. — rene 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
This is more of a comment then an answer. — einpoklum 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Kuzdowicz
surprisingly it work for me after deleting current draft, than i created new one and had the same issue, then after browser refresh it worked and i was able to post the question — Martin Kuzdowicz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@einpoklum in defense of the OP, they can't comment as they are < 50 rep. Using the answer box in that case is a common "work around" — rene 1 min ago
 
1:23 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@HereticMonkey Asking for a credit card is black and white- it's black and I don't think any mod will decline the flag. Here it's not so black and white. We can only create awareness of the issue and inform users effectively. — TheMaster 1 min ago
 
1:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@rene: ... which is why I didn't downvote this comment/answer. — einpoklum 59 secs ago
 
2:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@TemaniAfif It triggers at 3 downvotes for me. I suspect tag popularity has something to do with it. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@10Rep: What is "It" in your answer? — einpoklum 1 min ago
 
2:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
Try inline code markup — samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shilan
Yes, thanks. But still how does it work in title? — Shilan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
"declined - flags should not be used to indicate technical inaccuracies, or an altogether wrong answer" emphasis mine — Kevin B 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
Does this answer your question? When to flag an answer as "not an answer"?E_net4 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
Titles aren't Markdown, they don't support e.g. bold or inline code either (and comments are only a subset of the full markup, so <Void> works). — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@einpoklum The CSS tag is much more active than the tkinter tag. I didn't answer, it's just a comment. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
It absolutely is an answer. use the proper tool. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
No, it should just be used on actual NAAs, rather than wrong answers — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@KevinB The whole feature is obsolete when a not-answer is an answer. — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@E_net4 To the top answer on the post you linked: An orange is clearly stated as wrong answer, when an apple is needed. — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@KevinB It's not an answer, because it does not answer the question. Do we have debates about what questions and answers are? — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
it doesn't even attempt to answer the question. --> downvote it, this is a downvote reason not a flag reason — Temani Afif just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Obviously we do, here we are, and see the duplicate. This comes up all the time and the answer is always the same. If you want to discuss changing the answer, this isn't how you do it. — Kevin B 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@E_net4 Yes, but in this case it doesn't even attempt to answer the question. — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
No need for that analogy, @RobertS. Quoting directly: "You flag things posted as answers that do not attempt to answer the question", and "Any post that attempts to answer the question—however badly—is still an answer!". This is an attempt, albeit a poor one. — E_net4 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
An orange is clearly stated as wrong answer, when an apple is needed. --> you said it: wrong answer so it's still an answer but completly wrong --> downvote — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drag and Drop
Answerer try to answer he just took the "XY" approach. Asker has an issue I want to know why it doesn't work. Answerer have no time to explain and provide a way that work. He try to fix what was the "real" problem the loop does not work. — Drag and Drop 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio yes, downvotes and delete votes. — Kevin B 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@TemaniAfif Nonetheless, this is a little strange. We actually got no tool to make absolutely inappropriate answers disappear as soon as they don't fit into the chosen criteria. — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
It does attempt to answer the question. It absolutely misinterprets the question, so the answer is completely wrong. But that's still an attempt, however poor and misguided. No need to involve moderators. Why do you need moderators to deal with this? Just cast your votes, and let 20ks cast their delete votes. It's a non-issue, IMO. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@KevinB I can't vote to delete on that. Any reason why? — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
To be fair.... OP asked 2 questions, "The above program print zeros infinitely, How is that possible?" and "Why?", the answer in question does answer the first by implying "Your code is wrong use this"Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
No, we have no tool for that. Nor a need for that. Most curation actions in the site are resolved by the aggregate of several community member's votes. The result is not immediate, but it's not meant to be either. — yivi 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
downvotes alone are enough to make it obvious something is wrong by fading out the answer. Delete votes aren't necessary, but help clean up the mess after the fact. — Kevin B 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
No, it hasn't changed recently. You can cast delete votes on questions. — yivi 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@E_net4 This must have been changed recently. 4 weeks ago or so, I could and have once. — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
You nee 20k reputation to vote to delete answers. — E_net4 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@yivi I did it for an answer post even more ugly than this one once, but the vote got rejected in the review queue. — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
That's not a vote. That's a flag. Votes are not reviewed. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
"Any post that attempts to answer the question—however badly—is still an answer!" - What is here the criteria for an "attempt" exactly? — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
Also two sentence later "Moderators do not judge the technical correctness of answers." - How can one know if an answer attempts to answer the question if s/he do not judge the technical correctness? — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@yivi "Votes are not reviewed." - Exactly the vote can't be reviewed, but implicitly the purpose can be declined if users vote against. We have also reopen/close queues where this is possible. — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
Also two sentence later "Moderators do not judge the technical correctness of answers." - How can one know if an answer attempts to answer the question if s/he do not judge the technical correctness? — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
"Any post that attempts to answer the question—however badly—is still an answer!" - What is here the criteria for an "attempt" exactly? What if you have an answer which does not even answer the question at all; not even by an "attempt"? I need more details... — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
I would like to stop the discussion about this specific case here and continue the discussion about the bigger frame in the comments to the accepted answer to the duplicate here. Feel free to join there. — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
 
3:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Robert, there is no point in discussing this further, neither here or under the the other post. This is a "fight" you can't win. The rules for what is considered an answer are very lenient. I don't like this either, but strengthen those rules would mean a mod would be required to verify the correctness of an answer, which is pretty hard to fulfill for the few mods and the vast technical spectrum. It is up to 20k rep users to delete those posts and up to us (with at least 125 reps) to vote accordingly on such posts. — Tom 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
i had such an answer too, the text of low quailty dodn't fit, so i flag iot as naa, which was declined, and subsequetial the answer was deleted, so it is hard ti tell where the line btween naa and lqa actually lies — nbk 5 secs ago
 
3:59 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael
@SamuelLiew Apologies for off-topicking this strand, but you have locked the relevant post. Tim Post has (twice) promised an update. What good is re-featuring that other post? Does it need new answers? I can't downvote it a second time. I was going to post a Meta question (and request featuring) asking Tim for a response, but not after just two weeks. — Michael 1 min ago
 
4:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kbulgrien
"Full stop" is a great indicator of where stresses are likely coming from. — kbulgrien 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Dupehammers are born with spawn protection it seems. Gotta wait a bit. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@AdrianMole So you are suggesting Stack Overflow buy out Google Drive? :-D — TylerH 1 min ago
 
4:39 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
When I click that link it says "Page not found. This question was removed from Meta Stack Overflow for reasons of moderation." — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The question was deleted 25 minutes ago. — yivi 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 is not funny
That question was trying to do too many things at once. It was closed as unclear, but then you kept trying to use it to undelete a question on main rather than seeking to fix the problems in the question or asking a different one. — E_net4 is not funny 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
It was an exact time overlap then. — Lorenz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
I have taken time to explain the whole thing again. I then got the idea of trying to reopen the SO question. You can see this in my edits. Trying to undelete the SO question led to the deletion then? Is that an SO rule? And by the way, the SO question was deleted by the same users that were active on SO meta. Deleting an example (!!) had nothing to do with the discussion on meta. So asking those people to undelete is just fair enough. — Lorenz 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ChrisF
@Braiam also we have a significant number of companies that point people to SO for customer support. Not saying that's the case here, but... — ChrisF ♦ 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
@E_net4isnotfunny Also the downvoting of an SO example (!!) that was clearly not understood by the majority of the downvoters, neither on SO nor on meta, is already a case I could almost build a new question on: herd behaviour downvoting on SO examples by meta community members. Or herd behaviour in general, the meta question and the text + comment votes proves it. — Lorenz 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
I see, I have forgotten to click on the question link to get down the link to the "recently deleted questions", same as everywhere else on the Stack Exchanges. This was because I have so few questions that I did not need to click on a full questions view, and only there are the "recently deleted questions". My fault. — Lorenz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@Lorenz it does? At last! Allegations of 'herd behaviour' have been made frequently by users who get questions closed/deleted, and I have called them out to provide evidence. So far, not one valid case has been presented. Some kind of stats analysis would be needed to demonstrate herd and so we need lots of data, you know, data that does not show independent decisions to close/delete bad questions by, for the most part, skilled and experienced developers/curators. I will look at your questions and, if plausible, add your case to the dataset of >none< — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
You are drawing attention to a post, and active participants are of course going to look at that post and do what we ask of every user with enough experience and reputation: to use the tools given to them to clean up the site where needed. — Martijn Pieters ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Viney
LOL This must be the most hilarious question on meta! especially the third point.. rich kids be like "I'm gonna buy Admin tomorrow ! :) ... aaand take revenge on downvoters >:(" — Viney 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
@MartinJames This might be a first example of herd behaviour, without being emotional now, it really has a lot of it if you see it from the hypothesis that both SO and SO meta questions are at least interesting questions. See the upvotes of the comments that have not understood the problem + the dynamics on SO meta & SO. Still, I do not ask you to have a look at that. It is just tiring after all, I also should not invest so much time into this. I only come back since I cought myself thinking of this some time again, so I want to make a check. Mind-unhealthy business that I took over here :))) — Lorenz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Now, I see no indication whatsoever that the post was deleted just because you asked for a different SO post to be undeleted. I can understand that the reception you expected being different from what actually happened can be upsetting, but please don't make assumptions as to why people voted to delete. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
@MartijnPieters You mean "There is no rule that posts under discussion are exempt from this process.". I see. Still open: is it OK to delete it just because of the "advertisement"? — Lorenz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
@MartijnPieters This was the explanation that I got from the deleter. See the comments at meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/400086/… It was not totally clear, but you can extract this from the statement there. — Lorenz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
And, having read all the comments there, twice. You are misinterpreting the comment, I'm afraid. What that comment is telling you is that, in the opinion of one of the delete voters, that the community ran out of patience with you and / or your motivations for posting the Meta question. Perhaps it would be better if you took a bit of a break, to give both you and the Meta community some time to breathe? — Martijn Pieters ♦ 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@Lorenz well, some questions are interesting but inappropriate and/or off-topic. For instance, the choice of pizza toppings is interesting, (obviously, pineapple and anchovies are unacceptable, and users who willingly self-harm in such a way should have their accounts deleted), but off-topic for SO:) — Martin James 51 secs ago
 
6:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
There also insane number of clones of SO which all scrape as much content as possible and try to get top spots in search engines... and unlikely to entertain/respect any privacy requests. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
 
6:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dbc
Looks like a duplicate of “X questions with new activity” showing incorrect information in windows with multiple tag filters on MSE. Since the functionality was explicitly documented to work there by a stack exchange employee, it's a regression. — dbc 58 secs ago
 
7:13 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
@MartijnPieters I might have overinterpreted something, but I do not think so. Your opinion is still a very interesting one, upvote. I would suggest that the community, if it exists as such anonymous intelligence, should also think of why all of this actually takes so much time and energy. It might be the asker, but it could also be the community that can fail (and yes, it can fail completely and drastically without even noticing it, almost as it can happen to every individual). Think of the hypothesis that both sides could be right. Then might be not just me who needs some time off. — Lorenz 1 min ago
 
7:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
@MartinJames :))))) at least 2nd level humor. — Lorenz 1 min ago
 
7:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-Fran&#231;ois Fabre
the answer is the same as dozens of others I've deleted but okay :) — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 1 min ago
 
8:05 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 is not funny
Martijn's interpretation of my comment is reasonable. I was hoping that you would focus on the actual problem: that you were trying to do too much in a single question, to the point that it was going nowhere. But instead, you focused on only one of the matters, assuming that was the main reason for the question to be deleted, while also complaining about downvotes and insisting on bogus conspiracy theories about herd behaviour. At this point, it's true that we'd rather be doing something else over arguing about it. — E_net4 is not funny 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
@E_net4isnotfunny How do you explain the effectively not understood question with upvotes of wrong comments which clearly show that? It is only consequently wrong of community members like you to allege ME now for using conspiracy theories, although I just criticise what is actually happening: my 2 justified questions have just been deleted - and no one has obviously grasped the real content. Even you have finally deleted for other than content-reaons, and now I shall accept your "point"? Purely unprofessional, clearly uncontrolled, and it is much too clear that your behaviour is wrong. — Lorenz 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lorenz
@E_net4isnotfunny I do not need to care for your details if you have effectively done the last step and deleted the question in the end for no justified reason. Of course I must see this as a community action, and still I criticise you specifically then. It is actually you, and not the community, who is the problem. Do you think that sounds better? You see, I should better see the community as the problem. This is not only more diplomatic, but also more true. It is a herd behaviour problem, and there is no conspiracy about it, but it is just a fact. — Lorenz 51 secs ago
 
8:47 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
Added support as it requires moderator assistance and the request is indisputable. — TheMaster 1 min ago
 
9:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
not all upvotes result in rep gained. — Kevin B 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
yes, it is net upvotes. there's a post here about that confusionKevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neko Musume
@KevinB Oh right... so the score does represent net upvotes? — Neko Musume 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neko Musume
@KevinB can you post that as an answer... It would be useful for people wondering about this in the future unless this is a duplicate which if it was I couldn't find 😅 — Neko Musume 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
It's not super obvious but there's some hover text, I think? I'm on my phone so I can't check. — Catija ♦ 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neko Musume
Are community wiki posts included in the score count? They are included in the post count but I don't think they are included in the score count — Neko Musume 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
it's the 200 Rep cap .. if we don't have this restriction, Jon will be at 2 Million — Temani Afif just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@NekoMusume Well, most of the time, yes. If you get an upvote on a non-accepted answer, then they don't award rep. — 10 Rep 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neko Musume
Some upvotes, like Kevin B said, don't result in reputation gain. Is this mainly upvotes past daily limit? — Neko Musume 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@NekoMusume No, they are not. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neko Musume
@Catija yes I know about the hover text but the score didn't translate accordingly into the expected reputation when I looked hence this question — Neko Musume 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neko Musume
If you get an upvote on a non-accepted answer, then they don't award rep wait really? — Neko Musume 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neko Musume
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@NekoMusume They do, but only if you are below the 200 Rep Cap. — 10 Rep 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@Leonard you think we should be 'less condescending' and act as teachers? — Martin James 1 min ago
 
9:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
Your link is broke now. Could you update this answer, preferably removingv all the long-windedness with a clear yes(or no)? — TheMaster 58 secs ago
 
10:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@TheMaster: My link appears to work, although it redirects just to the OAuth 2.0 page instead. To be blunt, if no one took action about this two years ago when we had a chance to get ahead of the curve, I'm less incentivized to bother editing this to clarify that yes, we should have synonymized these tags eons ago. — Makoto 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
Once this is done, I feel like it should be deleted. There's no reason for this one guy to get 200 rep just for saying that NPM is down — S.S. Anne 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@Makoto Thank you for the reply. I'm interested in reviving this request. I did try to make a synonimization claim, but it says only moderators can make the synonym request when it's just a version number change. If all else fails, I'll edit the second tag to "DO NOT USE" linking this meta. — TheMaster 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@TheMaster [support] won't get this done any faster. Added some tags that might help it get noticed when we do work on these, tho — Machavity ♦ 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@TemaniAfif Not just 2 million :D Probably more like 5 million :) — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@TheMaster: I'd personally rather you didn't...it doesn't do much — Makoto 17 secs ago
 
10:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
No, it does not. — rene 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DontKnowMuchBut Getting Better
Ooh, a challenge! :D :D — DontKnowMuchBut Getting Better 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
If you don't mind, why is this community wiki? — 10 Rep 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
Why did you change the post-ban tag back to banning? — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@user4642212: They're usually spammers or people who post pornography or other truly offensive material. It's rare, but it happens. — Makoto 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@Makoto Makes sense. I just edited, do you agree? — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
There’s a distinction between a post ban and a (site-wide) suspension, though. I’m not aware of anyone being post-banned on a site-wide level. — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@10Rep: If others wanted to edit it I felt like giving them the chance to. — Makoto 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Fr&#233;d&#233;ric Hamidi
Are all posted questions categorically either one or the other? [...] And tangentially, do all posts "deserve" an action in one way or the other by viewers/ voters? Of course not. The incentive to vote is not a boolean (for / against) but more like a ternary (for / against / meh). — Frédéric Hamidi 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Youness Saadna
It's my fault I didn't read what is post-ban about. So I was thinking it's about posting new questions and I see that there is a question-ban tag but there is no answer-ban tag so I used the banning tag — Youness Saadna 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
At a minimum, I probably won't vote on a question about a technology I'm unfamiliar with that isn't obviously bad simply because I don't have any way of knowing how clear or useful it is. — John Montgomery 23 secs ago
 
11:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
@Michael I didn't see the update from Tim earlier. Thanks! — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
Default value refers to a default value. However, default can mean many things, like default browser, default IDE, etc. This is why it's a bad idea. — 10 Rep just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
I'm referring to the post @user4642212. You said that both the tags mean the same thing. But in usage they wouldn't. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
When I first came here, I understood it the way it was meant to be understood. English isn't my first language, by the way. Also, why do you think users would try to add as many tags as possible? My opinion is that tags are often misinterpreted as hashtags. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
@10Rep Are you referring to my original (obsolete) post or to my comment that suggests removing both tags? — user4642212 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
What about my second point? I believe tags are often misinterpreted as hashtags from other social media's. There, you are encouraged to add as many tags as possible, so that could also be a reson. — 10 Rep 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
Re-Meta-fun: Well, you can gain a gold badge and thus a dupe-hammer in a tag even though you don't follow it by providing enough upvoted content. — Davy M 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stuartd
@10rep just because you understood it doesn't mean everyone does. I see questions tagged as c# .net visual-studio method exception which isn't helping anyone — stuartd 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stuartd
@DavyM I find the C# dupehammer to be a burden. Who am I to make that decision on my own? I certainly wouldn't want to wield an array dupehammer on a Lua question. — stuartd 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 1201ProgramAlarm
Meta is a bit different; there is a small group of required tags, at least one of which must be included. It also says "Add up to 5 tags". — 1201ProgramAlarm 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stuartd
@10Rep fair point about hashtags, but (for example) twitter doesn't say "you must enter [something something] 5 hashtags [something something]" — stuartd 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
@BhargavRao Too bad this post is marked status-declined. Now I have to delete it. I originally intended to edit it into a burninate-request, but now it’s not worth it. — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stuartd
@1201ProgramAlarm good point, I'll remove that bit — stuartd 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
@10Rep The two tags do mean the same thing. Their tag descriptions are almost identical. If their usage differs, this would call for retagging and disambiguation effort in addition to merging. None of this matters anyway, since my comment calls for burnination instead. — user4642212 37 secs ago
 

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