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12:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Donald Duck
According to this answer the Impact box doesn't count tag-only edits, which isn't clear from your answer. Maybe you should edit your answer to make that more clear. — Donald Duck 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Leonard
@SecurityHound To be honest, I don't really see the need to point to the specific rude action. Google "stackoverflow rude" and you can see tons of examples and images captured. — Leonard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Leonard
@SecurityHound "as a member of this community I took offense" ....the very community you and I belong to has been acknowledging this problem for a long time. So you take offense to this? stackoverflow.blog/2018/04/26/…Leonard 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jscs
Nothing has been illegitimate: that code segfaults compiler previous to 5.2: godbolt.org/z/Kjb4zvjscs just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Leonard
@SecurityHound "Is closing a bad question that showed very little understanding of what a Task actually was in C# considered rude?" First, many agree that it was a reasonably well-asked question. Second, that is a very condescending attitude. Why would one even ask if one already understands? One asks because one WANTS to understand. Please remember: A beginner is someone who does not know what he or she does not know. Going to the stage of "knowing what you don't know" can be a confusing process. To thrive as a community, we should show compassion and critcism based on manners. — Leonard 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Why did you delete your previous response and then post this one (nearly verbatim) here? That's what the edit feature is for. — TylerH just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rory O'Kane
I see that you switched which of your duplicate answers was deleted and undeleted. Since the effect is to hide Makoto’s relevant question “Any particular reason why you're not choosing to answer #10?”, that makes me worry that you’re trying to hide criticism. I want a moderator who won’t censor on-topic public criticism and who is also competent with the site’s features. — Rory O'Kane 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Leonard
@MartinJames "I read the whole post, but if the title is sufficiently vague as to leave a framing challenge opening, it's not my problem" - No it's not about framing. It is a distortion. Just like how you'd never answer the programming question just by reading its title and call it "I framed it differently" — Leonard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ
@RoryO'Kane I do know how to edit: I have done hundreds of edits. My intent was not to hide criticism. — noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Leonard
@Trilarion I'm glad you agree and acknowledge to try new things. But I wouldn’t say this one is an outlier. Google "stackoverflow rude" and you can see many examples of rudeness. SO has acknowledge the problem long time ago as well. stackoverflow.blog/2018/04/26/…Leonard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
"Universal user id to identify the same user across multiple clients’ domains" adds to script blockerfbueckert 1 min ago
 
1:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 0-1
@jscs Thank you!! I just tried on Swift 5.0, it's the same thing. It must be related to this SR-12998 I reported. — 0-1 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
For anyone wondering, I've moved the comments from the other answer here by undeleting and deleting the other answer as a comment. It's hack-y but I hope it addresses people's concerns. I can't do much about the votes but, either way, there's votes on both at this point. — Catija ♦ 32 secs ago
 
 
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2:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
You redacted the first screenshot but not the second. — Samuel Liew ♦ 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
@DonaldDuck done, thanks — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
 
3:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
Well, I like at least three of them. It seems to have served its purpose well in being an OK impromptu litmus test on who is really out here wanting to be a moderator for what I'd consider to be the right reasons. If you don't wanna answer it, that's fine. I guess you don't really have to... — Makoto 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
...by the way, a moderator candidate really should know better than to post answers to the questionnaire on a third party site. It's basically flaunting the rule of link-only answers, and it really looks poor for someone who is going to go for a lot more privilege when it comes to the site. Not a fan of anyone who wants to pull that kind of stunt. — Makoto just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aquarius_Girl
Thank you for taking the thread seriously, the detailed answer, and the undeletion. I was concerned because other comments criticising the candidate are still there. Only mine was deleted. I didn't consider that fair. — Aquarius_Girl 5 secs ago
 
4:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@pppery You have a point :). But nevertheless, if that was fixed, a lot more reviewing would be done. One simple fix would be to make the unsalvegable button not raise a flag, and instead do something else. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pppery
@10Rep You stop reviewing for the day. There's nothing to do. — pppery 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
Apparently everyone who upvoted previous answer downvoted this one. (+1 btw). — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@10Rep Thanks. - — Ann Zen 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Yvette Flags are strictly confidential. I intentionally did not give any indication about who might have flagged the comment, and I do not plan to give any more. — Cody Gray ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Aquarius_Girl Absolutely. I do take this kind of thing seriously, and I understand why you would be concerned. Aside from it being my natural inclination, the reason I spill a lot of words on this is that I recognize it is a delicate balance between being respectful to the candidates while also being able to make criticisms. Elections need to be given more latitude than we normally would because, unlike every other action on this site, elections actually are about people. As Frederic surmised, I've undeleted other comments on the nominations to avoid the illusion of favoritism. — Cody Gray ♦ 43 secs ago
 
4:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by vlizana
Had the same issue, luckly I manually check the /review url (no idea why). I feel this question should also be linked as it helped me understand why the ban is so severe. — vlizana 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by vlizana
Is it possible to have a more generic title for this question? had a similar issue and was about to post when I finally found this, just the flag was different. — vlizana 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I doubt it was a conspiracy. There are a very large number of computer languages out there in the world. It's unreasonable to expect each and every one to appear on the survey. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@CodyGray you can say I didn't flag it, that does not give away who did flag it. I have no clue who flagged it. Given there is a comment under the nomination accusing me of flag bombing, that was deleted and undeleted, it's a fair request. No need to be punitive about it Cody, it's within the spirit of the law. — Yvette 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
I think this would be just as useful as thanks reaction. — oguz ismail 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@oguzismail But there are no downsides to this feature; the thanks feature did have downsides. — 10 Rep 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
There is though, it'd be very distracting. — oguz ismail 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
You are operating under the misconception that downvotes are meant to provide feedback to the poster. They are not: their purpose is to signal to everyone else (e.g., future readers) the community's opinion regarding the quality of the post. If someone wants to provide specific feedback to the poster, they can always do so in a comment. That is intentionally distinct and disconnected from votes. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
5:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ooker
@CodyGray again, "we must not assume that Alice and Bob won't have this association". Even if the system doesn't slightly intend to do so, I would say not seriously consider it will fail our goal to encourage downvoting here — Ooker 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ooker
@KevinB you may say so. But if the goal here is to encourage downvoting, then I just simply point out the reason why people don't do this. If you insist that we should not force downvoters to explain (which I totally understand and accept), then the goal will fail. What do you want? — Ooker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ooker
@fbueckert which task that you think a barrier to the downvoters? The hover stuff? That's not a barrier I think — Ooker 56 secs ago
 
5:51 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@Leonard - Condescending attitude, seriously? — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The first question was closed as a dupe 7 hours ago, by a single user that saw that you had posted duplicate questions. The second one was closed as a dupe only minutes ago, by a different group of users. But the final vote came from yourself, which is indeed weird. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"They were referencing one to another." the first question was closed as a dupe to a completely different question. I would assume one that contains the answer you seek but I'm not an expert. The second question was closed as a dupe to the first one. This is a somewhat common practice - sometimes people do post twice, due to an error somewhere. If a user posts two identical questions, the easiest is to close dupe close the second against he first, so they get a single set of answers, instead of splitting relevant answers between the two. — VLAZ 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
VLAZ, that would do as an answer. — yivi 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@yivi fair enough, I'll convert it — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Iria
but I would be nice to fix this bug — Iria just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
There is no bug. The questions are not "referencing each other". Only one of them references the other one, as VLAZ explained. And you cast (correctly) the final close vote in one of your duplicate questions. — yivi 1 min ago
 
6:21 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@yivi I assume OP means the bug with double posting. Yes, ideally, we don't want it to happen but I do not think we can ensure it. There are all sorts of problems that can happen. Sometimes it is the site's fault because you post and you get an error (I've had that happen) but other times it might even be the network or something else. I once double posted an answer by accident because I got confused with many tabs open. I don't think the site can account for all possibilities of posting twice and all possible errors. Honestly, what happened here is best case scenario. — VLAZ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Markus Zeller
Oh no! Please keep it simple. That is the charm of that kind of platform, not having such emoji style crap. — Markus Zeller 27 secs ago
 
6:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adeel Ansari
Indeed. I'm curious because Clojure was among the top 10, most loved languages, in 2019, as well as 2018, survey. Further, it was 3rd and 1st in, top paying techs, in 2018 and 2019, respectively. There must be some reason to exclude it this time, unless they play roulette. Where did I say, it's a conspiracy or something? — Adeel Ansari 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adeel Ansari
And why so many downvotes, without any explanation. What on earth happened to the community? — Adeel Ansari 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Downvotes are never supposed to include explanation. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adeel Ansari
@CodyGray, I practise that therefore I expect the same. Sorry. — Adeel Ansari 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by x-yuri
The upvotes on this answer ruin its recursive Inception-esque nature I wonder what that means... And actually I wonder what are those 2 more post controls and 2 more voting controls on the screenshot... — x-yuri 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Remy
Although I agree it is to be expected that not all languages can be included, I do agree that I also noticed some languages that were scoring quite highly previous years were missing this year (to mind springs F#), which I found quite odd since I personally find it interesting to see how the scales have changed between years. — Remy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
But your proposal subverts the very purpose that downvoting attempts to serve. — Cody Gray ♦ 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adeel Ansari
@CodyGray Indeed. But there must be some reason to exclude it this time, unless they play roulette. Where did I say, it's a conspiracy or something? — Adeel Ansari 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ehsan
Can't you just delete the duplicate question? I would expect the negative points to go away if you delete it. — Ehsan 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@Ehsan Deleting downvoted post will restore your reputation but will still count towards the question ban. — Dalija Prasnikar 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@Iria If such glitch happens, the best you can do is to delete duplicated post as fast as you can, before it starts collecting down votes. Someone suggested that on one of your duplicate posts, but you haven't done this. Now it is down voted. Suggestion still stands, delete that before it gets more. — Dalija Prasnikar 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Giovanni Esposito
Hi, preferred technologies part. I putted 5 tags but I got always the same error "Two required". Thanks for the answer! — Giovanni Esposito 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neophear
So you are talking about the field Tech you want to work with and the button you are clicking is Save? — Neophear just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ooker
@CodyGray Subvert? I think it's correct to a degree, but it doesn't attempt to subvert it. Words like "not completely focus" seems better. Again, the proposal bases on a premise that the very purpose of downvoting against million years of evolution. Plus that I still don't get why we can't provide easier options to downvoters to provide detailed feedback? What is the harm of that? — Ooker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Giovanni Esposito
I mean field "Which technologies are you using there?" and the button I'm clicking is "Done" — Giovanni Esposito 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Neophear
I am sorry, but I cannot find that field. Exactly what steps are you going through to reproduce this error? — Neophear 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Please see the FAQ on that. The problem with this proposal is that it presumes the purpose of downvotes is to give feedback to the user who posted the content. That is not the case; that's what comments are for. They're a separate mechanism. The purpose of downvotes (and upvotes) is to rank content. Your proposal here does nothing whatsoever to rank content for the benefit of other viewers. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Did you put a space between them? Can you show us a screenshot of exactly what you're trying to submit? — Cody Gray ♦ 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Giovanni Esposito
When you edit yuor Stack Overflow profile, you have 4 buttons on top: "Profile", "Activity", "Developer Story" and "Edit profile and settings". If you click on Developer Story, you have to fill a form with: "Name", "Current location", "Preferred technologies" and "Job search status". I can't complete this form because, all the times I click on Done button I got an error "All fields are required". Seems that I haven't correctly filled the field "Preferred technologies" because close to him I see the error "Two required". — Giovanni Esposito 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Paulie_D
"(65 as of time of writing)" I see what you did there. ☺ — Paulie_D 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Giovanni Esposito
Ciao @CodyGray, link to screenshot: — Giovanni Esposito 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Thanks for the screenshot. It seems you had that in the question already, but it wasn't properly formatting, so it wasn't rendering. Fixed now. I think this may be the same bug as reported here. That was marked as "planned to fix" by a SO Jobs developer, but I don't know what's taking so long on that fix. It seems like a pretty serious bug. Are you also using Vivaldi? — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Giovanni Esposito
Yes it is the same bug! I'm using Chrome. Thanks for the explanation! — Giovanni Esposito 36 secs ago
 
8:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by holydragon
Since there is no read tag, there shouldn't be a write tag either. — holydragon 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by holydragon
Upvoted only because of how colorful it is. — holydragon 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
I'm happy to confirm you didn't flag the comment @Yvette — Jon Clements ♦ 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Remy
There is read-write though, but that is more about file accessibility rather than file operation — Remy 1 min ago
 
9:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
We also have file-writing, which appears to be about writing files in general. Plenty of tags about writing files. — Erik A 58 secs ago
 
9:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luis Fernando Frontanilla
I think the candidate has the right ideas but poor communication and marketing skills, give the candidate time to mature and grow, he may impress you Makoto, and the rest of us. — Luis Fernando Frontanilla 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Re question 6: " Sending someone a nicer version of their comment, makes them see that they were rude," - no. Some people are going to laugh and shrug it off, and call you sensitive because they don't see a problem. Others will lash out, and some will just repost the original and complain how a mod deleted their perfectly fine comment. My point is, people aren't linear - how do you plan on dealing with those cases? — Zoe 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
There's always discussion about the languages included, VB.Net is also a regular topic (mostly because TIOBE mashes all VB languages into one and then it's popular). Afaik it's pretty much roulette with a preference for languages with lots of activity on SO and new ones. — Erik A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Re question 7.2: "I will engage in a discussion to find what: I observe, the user observes, I feel, the user feels, the site feels, the site needs, the user needs, the site wants, the user wants." - we have actual rules. Needs, feelings, and desires don't mean much unless it has been properly established on meta first. Some aspect of the rules have a minor democratic aspect to it - and steamrolling existing rules without any discussion first is a great way to get called out on meta — Zoe 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Re question 4: "Stack Overflow is nothing without contributors." - sure, but this doesn't answer the question, nor does it show that "you know exactly what you are doing when you are running in this election". If that idea somehow keeps you going, you need to specify that - I don't agree, but that would at least be an answer instead of dodging the question politician style — Zoe 32 secs ago
 
10:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
As for 7.1, "There is no point in the community discussing if the people responsible for Stack Overflow's features are not listening." doesn't answer "What do you think a moderator's role should be when an unpopular feature is rolled out by SE?". This is also looking aside question 10 being completely ignored, but if you really don't have an answer to question 10 -- arguably one of the most important questions -- you should really reconsider if you know what you're doing, and if you're prepared for the responsibility and attention the diamond comes with. — Zoe 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Finally, re questions 1 and 7.1: you don't actually answer the question, You dodge the question, which is not good considering you're running for mod. "It is ultimately up to us, the community, to decide if we want to support Stack Overflow staff in moderation." - yes, but it doesn't answer " In these testing times, what would you do to bring back happiness in the community, and motivate them to do more moderation tasks?" or " Do you think you have the mettle to handle these gloomy situations, and help the Stack Overflow community bounce back on the moderation front?" — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Actually, never mind the final - re question 9: "A moderator objecting to closure or deletion should result in reversal." - Not always. For edge cases, it should lead to a discussion. Both the person or people who did the initial moderation action that caused a mod to object, as well as the mod who objects could be wrong. Mistakes happen on both sides of the diamond — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@JonClements thanks pup :) — Yvette 1 min ago
 
10:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@RobertHarvey FWIW you can always count on my vote. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NeonMan
Too political on your post history for having my vote. Sorry pal. — NeonMan 1 min ago
 
11:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
That's option 1 in my answer, and returns something different from the one with   in it. Notably, the first line of code is clearly above the list character which may be undesirable, that's why I added the   option. — Erik A 36 secs ago
 
12:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yatin
Why not make it mandatory? — Yatin 17 secs ago
 
12:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
"which task that you think a barrier to the downvoters?" Literally anything that upvoters don't have to do. The more you make downvoters do, the less downvotes happen. That will skew voting towards upvotes even more heavily, and that's something we've been over time and time and time again. — fbueckert 22 secs ago
 
12:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
I think this question would be better received as a more general "how are languages chosen for the survey" question. As it is, it reads more like a paranoid conspiracy-theory rant about someone missing their favorite language. The introduction saying that it came from reddit prepared me, so thanks for that, but nonetheless, we generally have higher standards for discussion here on Stack Overflow. — Heretic Monkey 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ooker
@fbueckert just like you can press "Like" on Facebook without needing to provide detailed reactions, one can downvote without needing to provide detailed reasons — Ooker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
It's a reference to The Elements of Style, nothing to do with race. — jonrsharpe 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
This is just a misunderstanding, although a slightly weird one. What do you think "Strunk" means in that badge name? — yivi 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Shuklin
Ough. I never heard about it (I'm not a native speaker) and it looked very, very odd. — George Shuklin 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Yeah, I'm not a native speaker either. In these cases it pays to do a bit of research before jumping to conclusions, IMO. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@NeonMan Politics are off-topic on SO. Maybe you mean something else? Your description isn't very clear to me. — TylerH 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
This is Meta. You need to ask this on the main Stack Overflow site. — F1Krazy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
But now there are more options for the downvoter. And no extra for upvoting. That's a problem. — fbueckert 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pppery
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@StoryTeller-UnslanderMonica Well I'm not naming the person — Stumbler 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@pppery maybe. The downvotes are quite spaced out I think, which I would imagine would not be picked up by an automatic system. It's only one question at a time, not a wave. — Stumbler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
You are levying very strong accusations. They require an equivalently strong standard of proof. A few individual downvotes are not sufficient to implicate any user in toxic behavior. — StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@StoryTeller-UnslanderMonica My case? You are saying that it is policy not to care about this? If so, then that is the answer I suppose. — Stumbler 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
If it continues for several days in a row (e.g. more than 5), and you suspect foul play, just flag for a mod to review and/or escalate. — yivi 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
It wouldn't help your case anyway. You can't prove they engaged in revenge downvoting. All you have is a "gut feeling". — StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Any post of yours, and describe the situation in the custom text flag. But if there aren't enough votes, it may be insufficient for a mod to see a discernable pattern. — yivi 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@yivi okay... but flag what? My own question? — Stumbler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
Yes, your case. You are claiming "this user is toxic and abusing myself as well as another person". Your base for this is a handful of downvotes. Only two of those are directly correlated with an interaction between this user and your posts. The other handful (you paint a picture of an handful) you claim are cast by this user with just your "gut feeling" to back up. — StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 trusts no bots
"was passive aggressive in the comments" We can start by assuming good intentions and call them just comments. — E_net4 trusts no bots 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
FYI, it's not difficult to find the post you refer to. Please do not assume votes are cast because other users disagreed with your question here. I didn't vote on it because I try to abstain when I get to a post from meta, but I can imagine other users wanting to vote on the question merits. — yivi 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@Tom creepy searching out my question to downvote it in order to downvote it because you don't like the topic of this meta question is exactly that. Don't worry I'll delete this meta question if it's so offensive. — Stumbler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 trusts no bots
@Stumbler You need to stop assuming that we're all out to get you. For one, you cannot assume who voted what, because votes are anonymous. And with that said, asking a question here on Meta does bring more attention to you and your posts (it's called the Meta effect). So far, your statements in the question and replies do not seem to show receptivity on your end. — E_net4 trusts no bots 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@E_net4trustsnobots Indeed I did. When he repeatedly said that my question made no sense I asked what part he could not understand and he said that it was basically garbage. Not exactly constructive criticism. His offense at a good answer being posted really sealed the deal. — Stumbler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
I didn't do that, but you're again jumping the gun with baseless accusations. — Tom 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adeel Ansari
@HereticMonkey, yeah, maybe. I didn't give that much thought about generalising it. However, it's true that I like Clojure, and I was not happy when I found that it's not there, 2020 survey. Then, recently, I came across this Reddit thread, I linked, and thought of asking it here, straight -- without generalising it. I made my case pretty clear with well-supported reasons. I don't know why folks are being paranoid and receive my question as some kinda paranoia. Btw, I don't see why there can't be a general answer to a particular question, if there is one. — Adeel Ansari 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@E_net4trustsnobots I'm highly skeptical that a PHP software developer saw this meta, decided randomly to explore my past questions, saw the question, and downvoted it on its objective merits and demerits. But as the consensus here is, it it quacks like a duck, you really need a DNA sample to prove duckness. — Stumbler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 trusts no bots
As for the comments, you can flag them if they indeed cross the line or are not constructive. Sometimes it's best to flag and disengage than to continue attracting more heat. — E_net4 trusts no bots 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Stumbler, I didn't vote on your question, I'm a PHP developer that discovered your question after I saw your meta post. I didn't vote on it because I abstained from voting, but I was well within my rights on forming an opinion on the post and voting accordingly. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
To me this just looks like another case of too much commenting. Not everything someone says in a comment needs a direct response. — Kevin B 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@yivi there's pretty naked hostility to me even posing this question. WHERE'S YOUR PROOF. I asked a reasonable question about what to do about someone who is holding a long-standing grudge, and how we could potentially act to make this place a little less toxic. The consensus seems to be that toxicity is not an issue that you want to be addressed. Y'all are pretty hostile to me even bringing it up. — Stumbler 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I don't know where exactly I have been hostile about anything, sorry. But when you say "you all" you include me, and by that you are being hostile to me. I've been just trying to help you by giving you actionable advise, trying to put aside that there were things I didn't like about how your question was posed. I don't think I raised a single objection besides "please do not assume things about votes". — yivi 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
It is relevant. Commenting back at every little thing, disputing every response, is what leads to disgruntled users. — Kevin B 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@KevinB not really relevant to this meta question. I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer. It's well established. — Stumbler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
IMO, the question IS unclear. for example, "The parameters relating to the image name ($photo) and mime ($type) can hypothetically be sent using GET, but again, what sends these parameters, and how?" what do you mean what sends those parameters and how? get parameters are sent using the url param string, that's not a PHP thing, that's HTTP. so to me it just seems like a really odd question to be asking. — Kevin B 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@KevinB No, I think I posted three comments to him in total, he went off the radar and downvoting myself and the other guy. Subsequently he deleted his comments, or the other guy flagged the. I don't know — Stumbler just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Benjamin W.
Relevant example in the CommonMark spec: spec.commonmark.org/0.29/#example-248Benjamin W. 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
You said "you all" in reply to a comment of mine. So you'll have to forgive me if I misunderstood you. — yivi 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@yivi I didn't say you were hostile, but Jesus It's like I kicked a hornet's nest here. — Stumbler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
And you, continued engaging with him, correct? — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
I think this would help a lot, if it can get users to actually stick around. I see this quite frequently - someone posts a question which is nearly answerable but needs a small clarification, I (or someone else) comments about it, but after half a day OP still hasn't come back from being AFK, so the question dies. It's not a good experience for anyone involved. — CertainPerformance 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
No, they should go and find their own answer, instead waiting here aroud that someone has questions or doesn't like the question at all — nbk 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The gist of it is: even if the question was poor in many ways, and even if right here you are showing signs of not being the kindest, easiest person to have a conversation with, that's no excuse for serial voting. So if you think you have enough "evidence" (e.g. enough votes to form a pattern a mod could see), just flag and let a mod handle it. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Brandt
@nbk, but they exhausted all possibilities for finding their own answer before they ever posted here, right? ;) — Eric Brandt 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@yivi I was trying to talk broadly and hypothetically. I have my head bitten off "WHERE'S YOUR PROOF". It's almost impossible to get any proof. I was trying to frame this question as one that was not about a personal spat, but a general principle, and in doing so potentially make it useful to other users (that's what we are supposed to do). Whether or not I am an idiot or even whether or not I am the kindest person is not actually relevant to this particular issue. — Stumbler 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stumbler
@yivi In this meta question I have: been spammed with links to an unrelated issue of downvoting waves, had an SO post downvoted, told that I'm paranoid, that I'm not easy to get on with, and even that my understanding of HTTP is flawed. This is not exactly constructive. Granted these are comments, and granted this is meta, but when I, and others, say "there might be something up with SO's friendlyness" this trainwreck of a meta question is not exactly a rebuttal. — Stumbler 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 trusts no bots
"I was trying to frame this question as one that was not about a personal spat" I'm afraid that you did just that. Unproven assumptions, selective occlusion of your own behavior in the presented story, and then the defensiveness in the comments, all happen to do that. We don't believe that we have to sugar-coat this, but explaining these things to you is not being rude or unfriendly. — E_net4 trusts no bots 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3666197
@MaartenBodewes Ad mis-representation of a crowd-sourced "Score" not equal to "Experience" - suppose a person A, answering a massively visited topic(s),then a (crowd-size correlated) "Score" sky rockets,compared to all niche topic domains,where even an ultimate experience will never be "rewarded" by just a few people,who need help from that rather expert/niche topic knowledge.Dividing the naive-"Score" by a (known) number of page-"visits" IMHO can denominate how EFFICIENT & VALUED the actual knowledge assistance was to any-sized target group That's fair, isn't it? — user3666197 1 min ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
It definitely goes through Akismet, not sure if SO do anything special with them after that — Nick 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
@EricBrandt most posts from new users are closed and get downvotes, not as amny as here but still. So it is not helpful to stay here online and searching and finding an answer by yourself helps self-esteem — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samu
I'm not sure I understand how this would help. If there's additional information needed to answer the question, someone should point it out to the OP - most likely in the comment, for which he would receive a notification (e-mail that a new item appeared in his inbox). If that doesn't make the OP go back and edit/update his question, I don't think additional bullet point would help. — samu 1 min ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@LuisFernandoFrontanilla: This was their chance to impress me. That's the whole point of this. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by camille
This doesn't seem like an earnest attempt to show users why you should be a moderator. Do you truly want to be one? — camille 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Even if the answer is your last sentence, it does help to include the information as rene mentioned. If you had learned what in Node 13.x make this a problem, if would have been splendid if you had included that in a quote :) — Scratte 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maarten Bodewes
@user3666197 Huh, what does this have to do with the mod questionnaire precisely? And what does it have to do with my remark? You've lost me there. — Maarten Bodewes 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
I usually delete answers just saying "it's a bug in the tool/framework", linking to the issue. --> doesn't this worth a downvote instead? deleting seems to much IMO (especially that there is an attempt to answer at the end with the upgrade) — Temani Afif 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
@TemaniAfif who said I didn't downvote? — Jean-François Fabre ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
Upgrading can do more harm than good, unless a very good & specific reason is provided. We don't want approximative answers. But as I said in my answer, deleting was too hard in that case because, yes there's an attempt. There are a lot of answers just stating "it's a bug". Those need to go. — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
FWIW plenty of times this actually is the solution. I would recommend not to delete such answers because they are trying to provide a solution even if it might only be based on assumptions. — Dharman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@camille It's what I said "First, I will investigate the comment and the context to see if the word was used in an abusive/offensive manner." Context matters in a comment discussion — Dharman 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
From the screenshot, it looks like the OP is adding the [access-vba] tag... Isn't that getting burninated? (Just trying to save you a question's worth of work ;)) — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by camille
Very possible that I'm missing something with how flags are handled, but is #6 really the right order of operations? Seems like looking at the context before declining flags would help you understand why the flags were raised — camille 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
"Sometimes you click on a button (you don't know why)": probably what happened to me when I clicked "delete" — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
I meant only downvote ... Upgrading can do more harm than good, unless a very good & specific reason is provided. We don't want approximative answers. --> SO is plenty of approximative answers that works in many cases and get upvotes. I am also against them but they can be helpful so they are still valid answers. Sometimes you click on a button (you don't know why) and the code start working (you still don't know why but it's ok) — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
@HereticMonkey It's getting merged with vba (at least I hope, I've invested some work to make sure all questions tagged access-vba are also tagged ms-access, so as long as it's accompanied with the ms-access tag I don't mind. A certain user does mind, though, and will edit them out as soon as they're posted. — Erik A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3666197
Yes, @MaartenBodewes maybe I did not get the very same view as you had in mind, when writing about half of the qualification points related to past "state" of one's (crowd-size correlated) naive-"Score", *"Badges" & other artificial "means" that strive to retain a past evangelisation of the Culture.Excuse then my proposal for better alignment of one (quantitatively repair-able) aspect. The other issues are much harder to cope with. Generations and newer sub-culture "layer" are shifting, each one having different social experience,different culture of education,different levels of tolerance — user3666197 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@camille Exactly. Because comments might be completely unneeded even if the reason for flagging does not apply. A lot of comments can be safely removed without losing any valuable information. — Dharman 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by camille
Okay, I think I was misunderstanding what you meant by "I will then proceed to analyse the whole comment thread to see if any of the comments provide useful on-topic information." I guess you mean useful on-topic information as it applies to the post, not the reasons why comments were being flagged? — camille 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3666197
@MaartenBodewes ...as you,the Moderator Team,experience so heavily in large volumes.As Cody Gray has expressed a "need to hold an election now" the work under stress leaves the less space for any Culture & Ethics evolution,as all Moderators get overloaded by still growing backlog of(principally growing number of)Cultural collisions (reasons of which were noted above),for which such constituted body-of-(collision)-MOD's simply has none or close to none time & energy to create,educate & promote positive&Culture-compliant(+ref.each SE Site is different) behavioural models.Evangelisation is needed — user3666197 46 secs ago
 
3:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3666197
Let me wish you all the best & forgive me if my thoughts were distracting your Community sponsoring efforts ( which was not my intent ). A peaceful Community will evolve from internal peacefulness. The peacefulness does not emerge from an absence of violence, it can start to grow only from human to human compassion - so often missing around us. So the core values of social & culture evolution drive the Community closer to or farther away form widely shared values, reflected in attitudes towards the common state of peacefulness. The shared culture evangelisation efforts cure the roots,not flaws — user3666197 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Brandt
@samu, on one hand, I agree with you. On the other hand, people ask questions without reading the "How to Ask" page. That doesn't mean we don't need the "How to Ask" page. People don't check back on their questions. That doesn't mean we shouldn't tell them they should check back on their questions. — Eric Brandt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David
Can you link to a specific example on which you're looking for clarity regarding community policies? Currently your question sounds more like a reactionary rant than a specific question about the community. — David 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by T A
Can you link your question you are referring to? — T A 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
Assuming this is about questions like stackoverflow.com/q/62747531/3001761, the comment you received is very reasonable: you are expected to put in some effort yourself, and show that (research, code, etc.) in the question. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
i mean... out of the millions of people who use this network, i'm sure you can find people of all kinds. Whether or not you have... is another question. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anonymous
@jonrsharpe Ok thank you for letting me know. I was surely confused where to post this question since I usually thought this site was for questions for coding. — Anonymous 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anonymous
@David I had asked few questions that I had to deleted in the past. I easily got downvoted and many people said me few unwanted comments like , "kid, nobody will do homework for you, you are a little kid who does not want to do homework and expecting others to solve, how can you expect somebody to give suggestions". I never asked for any code, I just asked for the suggestions to start since google search also did not have appropriate answers. And at last some three random people closed my question. The questions that I ask for was to give suggestions to the examples the instructor provided. — Anonymous 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Vitali Pom
Dude, if you'd only do small research on your question: people who panic because you ASKED A QUESTION and downvote you and send you to other places as if they pay the bills of this website - are ugly, useless and usually much more stupid than you think. They didn't do anything for any community, they have never had a beautiful wife or even a pretty girlfriend, they are unsatified and even in the things they are better than you, they still suck comparing to anyone else who is proffessional and is doing real work and inventing great things. — Vitali Pom 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Brandt
[ Boson ] New comment posted by T A
I usually thought this site was for questions for coding - this does not imply that you are not expected to invest work beforehand. Well formulated questions with research behind them receive a good answer most of the time. — T A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
It is necessary for a question to be about coding, but not sufficient - there are plenty of coding-related questions that are off-topic here. I'd recommend taking the tour and reading things like How do I ask a good question? and (just as importantly) What types of questions should I avoid asking? to better understand how this Q&A model works and what's expected of questioners. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anonymous
@T A @jonrsharpe I had asked few questions that I had to deleted in the past. I easily got downvoted and many people said me few unwanted comments like kid, nobody will do homework for you you are a little kid who does not want to do homework and expecting others to solve how can you expect somebody to give suggestions". I never asked for any code I asked for the suggestions to start since google search also did not have appropriate answers And at last some three random people closed my question.The questions that I ask for was to give suggestions to the examples the instructor provided. — Anonymous 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by T A
@Anonymous You should flag rude comments, they will get deleted. As for asking for suggestions - this already is very vague and shows that you did not invest enough into researching the problem yourself, otherwise you should already know what options there are or at least have a concrete idea about it. — T A 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
If someone specifically said something insulting like that, the best thing to do is flag them. Making a post about it and accusing everyone on Stack Overflow being like that is not a great idea — user 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David
@Anonymous: I don't really have a canonical answer for you, other than to read through the Help Center for information about the community. But perhaps a few tips from experience... (1) Definitely don't take down-votes personally. I've had my fair share for sure. If anything they're just an indication that the question can likely be improved, so focus on that because it drives you to your goal. (2) Even if technically correct about community policies, rudeness is not tolerated by the community nor should be tolerated by you. You can always flag blatantly rude comments. — David 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
As to "I asked for the suggestions to start", that's really too broad for SO, we need more concrete, specific and detailed questions. See also e.g.meta.stackoverflow.com/q/284236/3001761. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David
@Anonymous: Even if you're stuck on where to start, you can always start somewhere. Consider that we have no idea what your experience level is or what specific thing has you stuck. Have you started with introductory tutorials and learning materials about the language you're using? (You might be surprised how many people skip that step.) Have you begun building your program? How far have you gotten? From the question linked in a comment above it sounds like you've built something and now need to parse data from a string. Did you Google that? What did you try? There's a lot you can show. — David 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Just another bad ad most likely — Kevin B 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Vitali Pom
@Anonymous My previous comment was deleted, I answered why do those people behave like that. There is a resason and it's Psychological. — Vitali Pom 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anonymous
@David Thank you for letting me know more about that. I will try to make sure to elaborate more about my questions and research for the next time. Thank you for your time to consider to write suggestions for me. — Anonymous 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anonymous
@user Thank you for letting me know more about that. I will try to make sure to elaborate more about my questions and research for the next time. Thank you for your time to consider to write suggestions for me. — Anonymous 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anonymous
@jonrsharpe Thank you for letting me know more about that. I will try to make sure to elaborate more about my questions and research for the next time. Thank you for your time to consider to write suggestions for me. — Anonymous 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anonymous
@T A Thank you for letting me know more about that. I will try to make sure to elaborate more about my questions and research for the next time. Thank you for your time to consider to write suggestions for me. — Anonymous 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Vitali Pom
@Anonymous Regarding learning, there are many people here like you. It looks like that all the bullies are back and they're willing to continue in here. How about that, find a couple of friends or mates who are willing to help and I will open a server for you for questions and answers? I had something small I did, but I turned it off and put it in my closet. If anyone is willing to help others, talk to me let me know and I will return it back. Let me know if you like it. — Vitali Pom 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by roberrrt-s
@Laurel I feel a bit silly for not allowing it, while also tracking exactly which browser elements were using it now. Oh well. — roberrrt-s just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
They’re looking into it. See MSE dupe: meta.stackexchange.com/q/349467/323179Laurel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
@VitaliPom it seems like this is largely splashing over from dsp.stackexchange.com/q/69094/15374 - if you have a problem with the responses you've had there, please take it up on DSP's own meta. — jonrsharpe 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anonymous
@Vitali Pom Thank you for your help. Yep, I will try to find people who are willing to help each others. I will let you know if there is a discussion to open server. — Anonymous 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anonymous
@VitaliPom it seems like many people talked to you rudely in the above link. It was more rude than what they said for me. There are many bullies over here, just don't know why the moderators are being silent upon this? They maybe have some close connections with each other I think. — Anonymous 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 0-1
@jscs I just figured out how to bypass the segfault on Swift 5.0. It had to do with the Raw Value being true. Check it out Here0-1 1 min ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ
@Makoto The whole "link-only answers rule" is a greedy attempt to steal link juice by Stack Overflow. My nomination isn't an answer, you're just shooting a dead cat. — noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
do you have a screen shot showing 531? — toolic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
I think with that remark that I'm thoroughly satisfied with your response to this nomination. You've showcased your abilities to be a moderator, as well as your aptitude to do such. I don't think you have to defend yourself any further on this. — Makoto 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
Can you post your results in stackoverflow.com/reputation for the 2 days? — Ann Zen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
As per the linked post - this is a case of a post where you had successfully suggested an edit has been deleted (reputation page shows the cause as "removed")Jon Clements ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ
@Makoto Under how you've judged me, you shouldn't vote for Makyen or Yvette either. — noɥʇʎԀʎzɐɹƆ 1 min ago
 
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